Ramblings and Reminiscences: 13/11 - Epi 386 ... Moving Out ... Settling In ...

Tuesday, November 13, 2012

13/11 - Epi 386 ... Moving Out ... Settling In ...

Tuesday 13th Nov '12

Happy Diwali!

Payash farewell ... very short and sweet! Too short ... but it seemed more than the characters, the cast was bidding farewell, the goodbyes and tears were very heartfelt. I believed today the reports that Barun and Akshay were actually in tears on the day of the shoot, they both and NK looked really affected.
And Anjali's mannat and raksha dhaga returned!
SN - Don't the Raizadas go to drop Payash to the airport? Or even out to the car? The entire shoot done with one set of cameras in the same hall - yesterday's episode and today's. IPK is really wrapping up ... or at least Season One is wrapping up for sure. And Sanaya was not there for the long shots, only for her close ups.

Next morning ... Raizadas have this enviable trait of being able to forget all earthshattering events very quickly ... like, overnight! LOL

So all get busy in Diwali preparations, ordering mithais of all sorts, gifts, food, mandir ... Arav is all confused as to what is happening ...

Arav goes off to poolside and starts making cards to sell, the way he used to do in the orphanage. Arnav feels bad ... especially when he talks about receiving donated toys and clothes ... and promises him a very different Diwali in his new home.
Arnav is such a big softy ... LOL

Arnav Khushi discuss how to make Arav's Diwali different and show him how families celebrate ...

UMMM CV'S ... DIWALI episodes last year were among the most re-watched ... and we viewers remember each and every dialogue. KHUSHI did not want fire-crackers last year because child labour is used to make them ... and this year she's all gung ho about them?! Give us a break!!! Some consistency here please?!!! Angry

And Arnav gives a long spiel about how dangerous they are and Arav is not going to be allowed ... Arnav is going to be one paranoid over-protective parent ... I would have thought that for a daughter, appears he will be so even for a son!
Or maybe am just visualizing my own family! LOL

Nani tells the Ramayan story while all the family members make laddoos ... loved this scene. Something so sweet and grandmotherly about it ... all the younger members happily listening to a well-remembered and well loved story for the nth time.
They should have got Arav to sit down for it from the beginning.

Arav demands laddoos being made for the pooja ... Khushi refuses, and Arav throws a tantrum. And gets ticked off by Khushi. Shukar hai ... he had that one coming!

Uff ... what's wrong with Arnav?! Getting angry because Arav was refused a laddoo ... let the kid learn some manners and the do's and dont's ...

Khushi makes rangoli, muttering to herself about her LG and his one unbreakable reet of fighting with her on all possible occasions LOL

Other rituals he may or may not observe, but this one he definitely will!
Mami spoiling the rangoli ... trust Mamiji! LOL

And refusing to acknowledge it as a mistake ... typical! Helping foot! LOL

Arhi ... Arnav says he can make a new reet also! Embarrassed

The guy really can't stay angry with Khushi for too long, nor can he stand her being upset for long either!
Oops! Rangoli spoiled again ... and Arnav like a typical husband beats a quick retreat ... LOL

end of Rabba ve for the moment!

NK advertises Star Cricket in shudh Hindi LOL

and Arav throws tantrums again ... what exactly is his problem?!

And we end on Lakshmi Puja and Meri Ankhon mein tu muskuraye ... with a depleted family and a very grim looking Arnav, a solemn Arav and a smiling Khushi doing the aarti together ... happy family ...

So is the next track going to be about Bringing Up Arav?
Happy Diwali again, everyone!

*Edit*
Adding an SBS segment of Barun, Sanaya and Mohit at the launch party of Khamoshiyan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pczSWFHQmbo
So one of our theories is out ... thank God! Seems the main issue is just what we discussed.

51 comments:

JayaNovember 13, 2012 at 3:27 PM
tears dropped down seeing the akshay-deepali sendoff.. awwww you are much loved, you guys!! (big hugs)

khushi and arnav fighting over different ways to raise a child.. hmm is that the new track? interesting to many.. not to me. i fight with my ASR everyday about different ways to raise a child.. and mine is not even adopted!! too big a can of worms, if you ask me.. and ASR seemsed honestly annoyed at khushi's reactions, not simply lovingly exasperated. that is something that raises my hackles.

I did not like the rabba ve happi diwali. i did not like him accidentally smudging the rangoli and copying mami... but i loved it when mami did it.

sanaya looks truly depressed.. her acting was affected today.

i loved NK's cricket commentary in "shudh " hindi.

and truly.. one day after the jodi left, they are celebrating diwali and amnesia has already set in? no comments about jiji or akash bitwa?

why am i watching this? because of you, R&R. (big hugs to everyone here) Happy Deepavali.

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RekhaNovember 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Happy diwali girls..

missed the Lus as i was busy in AD..i m sure i missed nothing spectacular...

IPK has meant so many 360 degree changes or atleast cause for introspection...

Actually i still remain confused after the discussions from the last post...

just a few pence more...

I always thot that when u quit a job, its a call u take for urself....ideally diffi to bring anyone else's perspective into it ......so i am unable to see anything wrong in the decision of a person wanting to quit...becos as i see it...it is the lack of watertight contracts that caused the problem in the first place...it is to avoid messes like these in professional relationships that there are contracts, legal and binding and penalties if there is a breach...

Having said that...the humane aspect of it can always be debated, questioned and argued, which is what i guess we are all talking about.
However, in this matter, conjecture always skews the debate...becos i don't know the facts.
for an example...
If i accept that Barun received a favour during
the kidnapping track, i am inclined to say that he should return the favour this time around if he is being asked to (i don;t know who is asking the favour tho)
If I accept that Barun did the favour by staying on when he was ready to leave, i am inclined to say that he has done his gud deed and now can move on...

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OptiNovember 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Its official.

This is IPK season 2. Khushi who gave the bhashan to La about the ills of crackers is now all for bursting them to entertain Aarav and it is Arnav who nows gives the bhashan to her. Talk of amnesia - of the characters and the writers.

Here's the link to the episode from last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEJ_zYrsJQ

Check from 15.48
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JayaNovember 13, 2012 at 4:58 PM
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2888051
another OS from the same author .. super sweet..
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SuNovember 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM
On Barun's iv:

He says he'd like to work with her again and she says she hopes too. Why? So he can feel bored and walk out half way through? (Yeah yeah, scripted, I know.)

Dia, I agree with your final comments yesterday. This guy has absolutely no idea how San held the show together in his absence. Is he blind?

And I hope too that San will come out unscathed.
And all the more admired!

Actually on the iv, whether it was scripted or not, and quite obviously it was damage control- I felt they were both being very honest. I still like them both as individuals, it is very unfortunate things didn't go perfectly well with them.

On the shock thing, I feel Gul was not there when it happened and thats why Barun mentioned it- that was definitely not scripted.

Gul openly admits they don't have a bank- this is a serious issue- no wonder the actors are being over worked. It is not fair to them.
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HAANovember 13, 2012 at 8:52 PM
HAPPY DIWALI LADIES!!

May this festival of liughts usher in happiness, health and prosperity for you and your loved ones.

Its been a wonderful Diwali for me in AD with family. Simple yet a good Diwali in a long time.

Sn: Saw a few comments on yday's post, dint see the interview yet, read the written update and have a personal view but perhaps another day!
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LinNovember 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM
Hello everyone
I have been away,for a few,days, so I,have,just caught up with the onscreen and offscreen drama. I have to say that Barun is looking a mess. It's as if he no longer cares anymore about his appearance or the show. I suppose now thar he is leaving, it really doesn't matter, but I think the least he could do is smarten up and make an effort.
I have watched the interview with Barun and Gul I think that Dia is right. He wanted to leave earlier in the year, looking back that probably would have been better for the show and Sanaya. He may have been made popular by this show, but is he forgetting that the show was not just him. He is part of the whole cast and each person has put there imput into making this the best show. I hope in the future he will realise that without his costar Sanaya and the chemistry they have shared on and off screen he would not have reached such heights. Don't get me wrong I think both leads are brilliant, but at this moment my heart goes out to Sanaya who is being left once again with the whole show on her shoulders. I am sure she will do more that fine, she has talent, sorry to say but she is the better actor, and a professional to the end. I hope that as the show continues for the next couple of months people will see that Sanaya is the one who has been the major lead and that she can do it without Barun. I would love to see her in another show very soon.
Sorry for the rant, I just feel that Barun could have stayed on till the end, and then had his break. Sanaya also deserves a break as well

Lin
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LinNovember 13, 2012 at 9:09 PM
Just had another thought, if Barun does not make it in BW he will come back to the small screen. Will the people who cast actors be wary that he left before the end of the show causing problems for his fellow actor and even his friends. Also if his wife doesn't like what he does maybe he should for her sake change his career.

Lin
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DiaNovember 14, 2012 at 3:39 AM
Just added another link on the main post ... adding it here as well, for discussion purposes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pczSWFHQmbo

So one of our theories is out ... am I glad! My final conclusion as before ... Barun wants to try his hand at BW strike while the iron is hot and he's riding the crest of his popularity, Gul has lost interest in the show, either because of his loss of interest, because for her, IPK was always about ASR ... or the other way round, he feels she has lost interest so he might as well get out and explore other options ...

SP wants to keep the show on and milk it for as long as they can ...

Sanaya is sticking because a) she's contracted to SP, and b) if she stays till the end, hopefully SP rewards her and gives her another show, plus she continues with the SP outings and shows.

Agree with Lin that he should have stayed till the end ... the thing is, the longer he stays, the more difficult it gets for him to leave, and he probably knows that. If he had left in Feb as he wanted, then people MIGHT, just might have accepted a new ASR. Now they won't.

The only thing I really don't understand is why he's being so stubborn and refusing to stay on for even a couple of months. Or maybe behind the scenes his advisors, or he himself, realise that it won't solve anything - there will still be a hue and cry whenever he goes.
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SamaNovember 14, 2012 at 4:20 AM
Lin can't reply to you post so writting here .... "Barun could have stayed till the end but is the show ending?!"

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He is there in the mid of the mess. He knows exactly what is the scenario and what is to be done. Be it his personal or professional life. If he wanted to go for clean break back in Feb, I respect him more. He did not want to sail in 2 boats and hamper himself and the show too. It was the makers choice to hold him back. He has kept his cool. Did not give any contradictory statement. He has stuck to his "I am taking indefinite leave" stance. Burning bridges is not a wise decision. He has a life to lead, earn and build his career. No good in making things ugly. As for September "I'm did not quit" there is something known as loyalty and comittment. SP hiked dinner price from 150 pounds to 350 pounds and it was for Sobti. People accept or deny that's the fact. He had to give it to SP. Otherwise SP would have been in deep waters that too dirty ones.

He knows exactly what his fan following at the moment is about. He understands the charisma of ASR. More than half of them won't be there after IPK winds off.....from his life or screen completely. If he wanted he could have manipulated fan power and made SP and PH dance on his tune. He is saner than that.

I cannot comment on whether his decision is right or wrong. Only time will tell.

As for the mess. None of them would have been created if 4Lions din't come up with all those FMD post in their official website and equally stinky response to fans cry. SP should have strictly said about his leaving which he himself have claimed "I am taking leave because I want to spend time with wife and family" rather than giving contradictory information and talking about his movies. Its none of their business. If not for PH, fans would have accepted Baruns word far easily than they are doing now. Gul had to take Baruns help to save her a**. An actor has to have a lot in him to make makers feel they need him and be humble about it.

Coming to his wanting some time out for real life. I support him wholeheartedly. I will be very happy if this is only about his life and wife rather than conspiracy.

Show ek aur ajayega, it won't be ASR - a character meant for him, his claim to fame. That does not matter much because actors who have strictly done TV shows only for years have achieved nothing other than steady income. He can do that later too. Biwi ek aur nahi ayegi .... Ayi toh bhi woh Pashmeen nahi hogi and that matters the most. Jaan hai to jahan hai or rather new one making rounds is Jab Tak Hai Jaan. Har pal yahan jee bar jiyo .... Kya patah kal ho na ho !!!

I know I am Sobti bias. He has given me no reason to be otherwise. Love him and wish him all the best.

Coming to IPK, I am the only Sobti fan I guess who wants the show to continue too. Its business and its Sanayas show too. If they can carry it forward in terms of TRP why not?? I will stop watching that's a different issue.
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SamaNovember 14, 2012 at 4:36 AM
Another thing I wanted to add has been said by Dia. His fans are making the situation very difficult for him. He has kept it as simple as possible and I believe has tried his best in keeping things good as far as media is concerned but fans are pushing him. Already what channel has declared as leave has been forced to change it to quit. I just hope fans don't reach a point where they damage his career.
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DiaNovember 14, 2012 at 5:11 AM
Sama, I said this back in May when Barun left for his movie ... that he was being unfair to the show and he should just leave. I remember all of you argued with me back then too. The fact that he wanted to do exactly that, makes me think the better of him.

I don't have any problem with Barun wanting to leave. His job, his life, his family ... he has perfect right to take his decisions.

But I'm a fan of IPKKND, the show, so yes, I do have the complaint that he has not been loyal to the show that has catapulted him to fame and given him so much. I'm not a BS fan, I'm an ASR fan ... I'm very clear on that. If there is another ASR and another actor who can play him as well, I will be happy - I would have been equally happy in May itself. So the fans are bugging me more now ... if the guy wants to go, let him go! He's answerable to his wife and family, not to them. If he can't do justice to the show, and he doesn't want to try, he should leave. That's what he's trying to do, let him do exactly that. What he does with his life is his concern. Yes, he's a good actor, if he doe well, all the best to him ... if he does something which interests me, I will watch it. I have no problem with Barun Sobti, the person. I don't know him. It's the actor I liked.

If Sanaya wanted to opt out, I would be equally upset with her ... for a different reason - I am more a Sanaya fan, and I like seeing her on screen. I'm a selfish viewer, I want her on my screen. And I'm even more upset with Barun because of that ... because of his lack of interest, the show will shut down, and I won't get to see my favorite actress. But I'd rather the show shut down and she got a new show with a better PH than this one, because this PH is clearly not interested in the character of Khushi. Or rather, Gul is not.

Having said that, I am the most upset with Gul, because I hold her and the cv's FAR more responsible for this mess. They have lost interest in the show and it clearly show. Whether it comes from the lack of interest of Barun, or the new baby - which came first, the chicken or the egg, I don't know.

How often have we on R&R bemoaned the lack of strong parallel tracks, the lack of focus on family reactions, the feeling of rushing through tracks and scenes?! Yes, it's a daily, but when we as viewers can see so much going wrong, do the makers lose complete sight of what they're doing? Or was the interference by the channel increasing so much that Gul got fed up that she couldn't tell her story the way she wanted to? And hence she lost interest?

Like I said, I don't know which came first ... but a very good show, the first truly different one of its kind has gone down the tubes, and I'm not happy. Barun got his fame, made his money and wants out ... I understand, but I'm not happy with his attitude. Gul lost interest for whatever reasons, I'm not happy with her ...

SP ... they're a channel, not a production house, if they felt they had to step in so many times, means they also saw things going wrong ... they are the biggest GEC in India, one has to give them credit for some business sense, and also for being ruthless in pulling non-performers off air. They're running a business, that doesn't work on emotions unfortunately. Well, actually it does, but those emotions have to translate into numbers ... till they do, SP will keep IPKKND on air.

Yes, they sold the UK trip tickets on Barun's name, so they wanted to keep the news quiet ... but then they signed up Barun for Diwali and for the trip to sweeten him and keep him on ... they paid for him, and they're recouping their investment. He has made money out of this UK trip too. Not saying he's not entitled to ... he is. And he has.
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OptiNovember 14, 2012 at 6:13 AM
Dia,

I never suspected that his wife will be jealous of his co-star. Although little is mentioned about her, she does not appear to be so petty. Sarun have also not behaved in any manner which can give rise to any rumours. If anything his wife may have been unhappy about not being able to spend enough time with him, which is perfectly understandable considering that they got married just two years back and he has been involved in one daily soap or the other throughout their married life. Barun cares enough for her feelings to give her that time even at the cost of disrupting the apple cart.
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AnonymousNovember 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM
Dia,
I agree with you regarding Barun Sobti's departure. It is his life and his decision. And I respect that. But my complaint is that the tracks were all rushed to accommodate his leave. If only he would have left at the time of shooting the movie, then maybe there would have been a proper closure of the "love" story. It may be a dark story, as you guys did mention. But it is still a love story for me (unconventional, I admit) and a unique one, I really feel. My only remorse as an audience ( a selfish one too) is that the story was never told in the way it was planned to be. Of course, I am just assuming that Gul Khan would have told a different story under different circumstances. Too much of wishful thinking, I know. If the CVs are still interested to progress with the story after replacing Barun Sobti, I don't have any reservation of watching the show. I am a fan of the show, a fan of the journey of the two star crossed lovers - Arnav Singh Raizada and Khushi. But looking at the recent tracks, I don't think they have any intention of keeping the show on air for long.

Ayesha
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JayaNovember 14, 2012 at 7:37 AM
laugh a little
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkZMYCGgZQY
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JayaNovember 14, 2012 at 7:40 AM
the good bye scene between the two raizada boys.. two men who do not speak much.. the way they fumble around for something to say..

touched my heart.
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OptiNovember 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM
Jaya, why would I amke your DKD and feed you bhoondhi raitha?
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