Tuesday 24th April
Nearly titled this post Pani Puri ... then realized that took up barely the last five minutes of the episode, and lots more other stuff happened, including many shiddats :)
So Arnav gave complaint about missing body parts ... er, auto parts :))
Then did some useful eavesdropping for once, and discovered the extent of the Guptas' financial problems ... and as usual, took immediate steps to sort things out as far as possible.
Will do the 'call her Amma' scene in detail tomorrow - need to re-watch to get all the nuances, including the ArHi scene that followed. But good to see both Arnav and then Khushi finally start giving way and exposing their hurt ... Arnav does expose his hurt partly in front of the G ladies, but Khushi still keeps it together in front of BG and breaks only in front of Arnav ... correction, Khushi - you haven't just hidden your anger about Arnav's antics from Arnav's family members, you have also hidden it from your own.
Manorama-Payash-Bubbly scenes were fillers ... Payash-Bubbly track starting full swing. Bubbly will cut Payash out of the pictures ... scene idea lifted from KKHH ;) And Chief Villain has gone missing again after his weekly appearance - he's not in the family pictures? I thought he returned with Mamaji? Is he already attacking Arnav's safe?
Arnav brings pani puri ... as an apology? Liked the Maa scene ... Shweths, you rock!!! :)) Spot on!!!
And Khushi doesn't want to eat pani puri brought by Arnav, but can't resist ...aww, can't say I blame her.
Can't help wondering though why Arnav felt so bad about hurting Khushi ... has he forgotten about Shyam's supposed relationship with her?
Sanaya was awesome ... every time I see her in an emotional intense scene, I realise anew why I like her so much. And Barun was superb as well ... so were the G ladies ... all in all, a very satisfying episode.
*edited*
On re-watch, I realized that the police apparently have found the missing auto parts, and Arnav realized his accusations to Khushi were unfounded. Thereby already starting his guilt trip.
And then he overhears the conversation between BG and the grocery storekeeper, his guilt deepens ... how their grocery budget has been blown haywire by his visit, his impulsive purchase of an AC when they had arranged for a cooler for him, which they accepted without complaint as they acknowledged that they were unable to provide him the comforts that he was used to, the expensive meal he ordered to his taste, not theirs, which they refused to allow him to pay for ... to the point that now they need to pawn something to arrange for their groceries ... all without letting him know, wanting him to feel comfortable as best as they can manage.
And Arnav Singh Raizada's guilt trip starts in earnest, as do his first shaky steps on the RTR ... an acknowledgement of the trouble and difficult he has put them to with his unthinking demands and expectations, and his steps to make up for it ... in a way that is more appropriate ... thinking of them and their needs foremost, and not his own ...
Khushi and Arnav are alike in this way too ... when they realize they have made a mistake, they take steps to make up immediately ... she does it with words and deeds both, and he does it with deeds alone, as words still don't come easily to him.
I remember an unforgettable line from a very forgettable movie I saw ages ago, with Abhishek B, Sushmita Sena and Rani M ... Sushmita is the other woman, and when Rani and she have a face off, Rani tries to bow out of the picture, saying that Sushmita is more suited to Abhishek in class, sophistication and even in height ... Sushmita tells her, "A man should always be taller than his woman, so that he bends his head to listen to her ... and a woman should always be shorter than her man, so that she holds her head high to talk to him." Sounds even better in Hindi ... "aadmi ko hamesha apni biwi se sar jhuka kar baat karni chahiye, aur ek biwi ko hamesha apni pati se sar itha kar."
So true ... and it holds true for class as well ... a person truly high class in thinking, not just in society, will bend to accommodate and understand those lower than him ... that in fact, shows his higher status ... while a person lower in status should hold his head high in pride and look up straight. When a person thinks himself to be of high status and refuses to look downwards, it shows that in his own mind, he is actually of lower class, and needs to always pull himself upwards.
So Arnav learns the true meaning of class for the first time ... and bends to understand the needs of the Guptas ... not a single expensive unfamiliar meal, but groceries for the entire month ... not given as the largesse from a rich man to a poor household, but bought by a member of a family for his own family ... he is the 'damaad' and it is his right and only natural ... not denting their pride and self-respect, but keeping it intact ...
Loved the little teasing and humor from Arnav for the first time (something I wanted for ages) ... I eat a lot, and you feed me a lot ... upholding the self-respect of the Guptas by keeping it light and humorous ...
And loved Khushi's expressions here again ... especially when he calls himself 'damaad' ... a tearful joy, mixed with hope ... does he mean that? Does he really feel he belongs here? Time and again she clutches at any and every straw of hope that her marriage could be a real one, not just a limited contract ...
(Agaian Sanaya shot for her scenes separately here, and again, her expressions were perfect ... well done, Sanaya! =D> )
And that's why she asks him again ... call her Amma, not Aunty ... you called yourself the 'damaad', you call Buaji Buaji, why can't you call Amma, Amma?
I tried to think back ... the only knowledge Khushi has of Arnav's parents is from the barsi, and the night they talked under the stars ... she knows that he misses his mother tremendously, that he loved her a lot ... but she has no idea of the bitterness involved, of the trauma of the past, of the hurtful memories. And she can understand him missing his own mother ... as an orphan who still misses her own parents, even in spite of having a loving foster family ... in her own way all she wants is to give him a mother too ... share her foster mother with him as it were ...
So her shock when he snaps at her so brutally about his mother being dead is understandable ... the last time he snapped at her about his parents was at the barsi, when he told her they were dead and she wouldn't understand ...she still has no clue about the trauma involved.
And that's why I felt BG were less than understanding to Khushi ... and were unnecessarily harsh with her ... upset that she pestered Arnav about Amma, but not understanding in the least why she did so ... the problem is Khushi herself sets up people to misunderstand her, because she keeps everything light and funny ... and never tells anyone her true feelings ... not even her own family. So all BG saw was her pestering Arnav to do something he apparently didn't want to do, and his being very understanding and patient about it, they saw a man trying his best to adjust to the changed conditions he found himself in and not complaining ... not knowing the earful he gave Khushi every night about it ... and definitely not knowing the discomforts she had gone through in RM ... they thought she had lived in the lap of luxury since her marriage ... not knowing that for the longest time, she never even had a bed to sleep in, had almost been barred from entering the kitchen, had to fight to win back the love and respect of Nani and Anjali ... while Arnav got it at GH unasked ... Because Khushi never told them.
But still, they could have told Khushi to stop pestering him about Amma far more gently ... the way they spoke to Arnav later about it ... she was already upset about the way Arnav snapped at her, they didn't seem to see that upset at all. All they saw was their damaad's anger at her pestering.
ArHi - Arnav pacing up and down in his room ... furious and upset, beset by old memories again ... angry, hurt ... and yes, guilty ... as he sits and pretends to work at his laptop, it seemed that he was waiting ... waiting for Khushi, because he wanted her to come, he needed her, to blow up at her, vent his anger, because she is the only one he can vent it on ... his anger was not so much at her pestering but at his own memories, and she is a convenient scapegoat, because she will take it ... she never runs away from his anger, but absorbs it into herself ...
And she comes in, just as he is expecting her to ... she says sorry for hurting him, even though she had no intention to do so, she doesn't know why it hurt him so much ... after all, she lost a mother too, and found a mother again in Garima, and that's all she really wanted for him too ...
And because he knows it wasn't her words that hurt, nor her intentions, but his own memories, he stops her from saying any more, from delving any further ...
You don't know what you said, what you made me feel ... that much is true, because he never told her ... you don't understand and you will never be able to ... now that part is not true, just try her, Arnav, and see how she will understand your every pain and sorrow and heal it for you ... how much you hurt me ... it wasn't she who hurt him, but the memories her words brought back ...
And in his own torment, he says words he didn't mean to, and didn't really mean at all ... he might have meant them just one day before, but now he really doesn't ... yet they come out ... much to his almost instant regret ...I'm stuck here with you in this ghatiya place ...
And she's hurt deeply ... she thought he was on the road to accepting her ... her family, he called himself their damaad, he helped them with their groceries, seemed to understand their difficulties ... yet again, it's all about ghatiya place and how he's had to adjust ... her dreams, barely half-formed as they were, splinter again ... no, he will never accept her, and she's a fool to keep dreaming and hoping, time and again ... because she will always be 'ghatiya' for him ...
And her hurt spills out too, yes, he faced discomfort here, but its discomfort for him, it's a way of life for her ... the power cuts, the erratic water supply, the limited budget for rations, which can be blown to pieces by a single meal ... she thought he was on the road to understanding, but it appears not ...
His regret surfaces ... I didn't mean it that way, Khushi ...he really didn't.
And dimly, she does understand, when she sees the regret in his face ... yes, he is angry with her, and he took it out on her family, her circumstances ...
But then her own hurt surfaces ... I'm angry with you too ... for many more reasons apart from the physical discomfort (which she has suffered equally even at RM) ... yet she has never let it show to his family ... has adopted his family as her own uncomplainingly and wholeheartedly, his Nani as hers, his Di as hers ... what's between them is between them alone ... so much has she accepted his family as hers, that she hasn't even told them the truth of their wedding ... while he has time and again brought her family into the equation, threatened Payal's happiness, refused to accept her Amma as his, grouched about the meals, the AC, the mosquitoes ... all she has ever done has been to him, and him alone ... troubling, fighting, teasing, tormenting ... his family is clueless. If she wanted to bring his family in, she could have told them on day one - your grandson/brother forced me into this marriage ... and left him to deal with it ... but she never did. In fact, she has hidden the truth from both families, his and her own. Despite not knowing the reason.
Why? Because she is still craving, clinging to that shred of hope that one day this marriage will become real. As much as he can't leave her, she can't leave him.
And she again does the same - hides the truth from her family ... as she puts on her smiling mask and takes Babuji out for a walk ... she needs the time out ... away from the disapproving worry of BG, from the anger and regret of Arnav ...
RM ... Bubbly is doing the first part of her job ... becoming KMH for Payash. Family pictures in full swing ... I stand corrected, RRR was in the last family picture. And Payal will be cut out. Bubbly darling, if wishes were horses, you and Mami would be riding.
GH - BG making pakodas for Arnav ... (me wants!) And Arnav has disappeared ... reappears with golguppas for the family.
Another milestone on the learning curve - appropriate treats ... this family enjoys golguppas and street food much more than expensive pasta ... wealth is not necessary to furnish the small joys of life - how true! Reminds me of my hubby when we visit Delhi ... my mom loves golguppas, my dad, being typical angrez in his tastes, never did, so my hubby would go out and get them for her!
And it's Arnav's way of apologizing for his earlier outburst ... realizing the truth of Khushi's upset, and that he did disrespect and hurt Garima by his outburst. Although again BG accept his apology gracefully ... and G assures him he can call her what he wants ...
When Buaji said that about Khushi, don't take her too seriously, she is pagal, I felt Arnav was upset on her behalf ... is he seeing that even her own family is never privy to her deepest feelings? That not only has she hidden her problems from his family, but also from her own ... the reason for his unconditional welcome and love and affection from his in-laws is only because they don't know what she has gone through in RM.
Khushi enters, and Arnav sees the mask firmly in place, the chirpy Khushi without a care in the world back in place ... eyes only for her favorite golguppas ... was he stupid to think that she was so hurt by him? She's obviously not ...
And Buaji says that Arnav brought the golguppas, and the mask slips again ... she refuses to eat them, even though obviously longing for them ... but then her lack of malice back, ok, she'll eat one ... golguppas are more important than her upset at LG ...
And he watches her eat with enjoyment ... the simple pleasures of life ... that's Khushi ... his unspoken apology accepted ... he still finds it difficult to apologize to Khushi in so many words.
My thoughts ...
(Been out, need to catch up with the last few posts, but it's almost time for the next episode so keeping this brief. More discussion on Wednesday's post.)
ArHi scene - will Arnav remember Khushi's words that she has never hurt a member of his family, and never ever will?
Also, has either of them given a thought to the fact that time is running out? They seem to be getting more and more used to each other, opening up more and more with each other ... the more these arguments and tears, conversely the closer they seem to become.
Golguppa scene - Arnav looked like he wanted to eat up Khushi, gol guppas and all ... are we heading to another romantic moment, followed by the bombshell?
Nearly titled this post Pani Puri ... then realized that took up barely the last five minutes of the episode, and lots more other stuff happened, including many shiddats :)
So Arnav gave complaint about missing body parts ... er, auto parts :))
Then did some useful eavesdropping for once, and discovered the extent of the Guptas' financial problems ... and as usual, took immediate steps to sort things out as far as possible.
Will do the 'call her Amma' scene in detail tomorrow - need to re-watch to get all the nuances, including the ArHi scene that followed. But good to see both Arnav and then Khushi finally start giving way and exposing their hurt ... Arnav does expose his hurt partly in front of the G ladies, but Khushi still keeps it together in front of BG and breaks only in front of Arnav ... correction, Khushi - you haven't just hidden your anger about Arnav's antics from Arnav's family members, you have also hidden it from your own.
Manorama-Payash-Bubbly scenes were fillers ... Payash-Bubbly track starting full swing. Bubbly will cut Payash out of the pictures ... scene idea lifted from KKHH ;) And Chief Villain has gone missing again after his weekly appearance - he's not in the family pictures? I thought he returned with Mamaji? Is he already attacking Arnav's safe?
Arnav brings pani puri ... as an apology? Liked the Maa scene ... Shweths, you rock!!! :)) Spot on!!!
And Khushi doesn't want to eat pani puri brought by Arnav, but can't resist ...aww, can't say I blame her.
Can't help wondering though why Arnav felt so bad about hurting Khushi ... has he forgotten about Shyam's supposed relationship with her?
Sanaya was awesome ... every time I see her in an emotional intense scene, I realise anew why I like her so much. And Barun was superb as well ... so were the G ladies ... all in all, a very satisfying episode.
*edited*
On re-watch, I realized that the police apparently have found the missing auto parts, and Arnav realized his accusations to Khushi were unfounded. Thereby already starting his guilt trip.
And then he overhears the conversation between BG and the grocery storekeeper, his guilt deepens ... how their grocery budget has been blown haywire by his visit, his impulsive purchase of an AC when they had arranged for a cooler for him, which they accepted without complaint as they acknowledged that they were unable to provide him the comforts that he was used to, the expensive meal he ordered to his taste, not theirs, which they refused to allow him to pay for ... to the point that now they need to pawn something to arrange for their groceries ... all without letting him know, wanting him to feel comfortable as best as they can manage.
And Arnav Singh Raizada's guilt trip starts in earnest, as do his first shaky steps on the RTR ... an acknowledgement of the trouble and difficult he has put them to with his unthinking demands and expectations, and his steps to make up for it ... in a way that is more appropriate ... thinking of them and their needs foremost, and not his own ...
Khushi and Arnav are alike in this way too ... when they realize they have made a mistake, they take steps to make up immediately ... she does it with words and deeds both, and he does it with deeds alone, as words still don't come easily to him.
I remember an unforgettable line from a very forgettable movie I saw ages ago, with Abhishek B, Sushmita Sena and Rani M ... Sushmita is the other woman, and when Rani and she have a face off, Rani tries to bow out of the picture, saying that Sushmita is more suited to Abhishek in class, sophistication and even in height ... Sushmita tells her, "A man should always be taller than his woman, so that he bends his head to listen to her ... and a woman should always be shorter than her man, so that she holds her head high to talk to him." Sounds even better in Hindi ... "aadmi ko hamesha apni biwi se sar jhuka kar baat karni chahiye, aur ek biwi ko hamesha apni pati se sar itha kar."
So true ... and it holds true for class as well ... a person truly high class in thinking, not just in society, will bend to accommodate and understand those lower than him ... that in fact, shows his higher status ... while a person lower in status should hold his head high in pride and look up straight. When a person thinks himself to be of high status and refuses to look downwards, it shows that in his own mind, he is actually of lower class, and needs to always pull himself upwards.
So Arnav learns the true meaning of class for the first time ... and bends to understand the needs of the Guptas ... not a single expensive unfamiliar meal, but groceries for the entire month ... not given as the largesse from a rich man to a poor household, but bought by a member of a family for his own family ... he is the 'damaad' and it is his right and only natural ... not denting their pride and self-respect, but keeping it intact ...
Loved the little teasing and humor from Arnav for the first time (something I wanted for ages) ... I eat a lot, and you feed me a lot ... upholding the self-respect of the Guptas by keeping it light and humorous ...
And loved Khushi's expressions here again ... especially when he calls himself 'damaad' ... a tearful joy, mixed with hope ... does he mean that? Does he really feel he belongs here? Time and again she clutches at any and every straw of hope that her marriage could be a real one, not just a limited contract ...
(Agaian Sanaya shot for her scenes separately here, and again, her expressions were perfect ... well done, Sanaya! =D> )
And that's why she asks him again ... call her Amma, not Aunty ... you called yourself the 'damaad', you call Buaji Buaji, why can't you call Amma, Amma?
I tried to think back ... the only knowledge Khushi has of Arnav's parents is from the barsi, and the night they talked under the stars ... she knows that he misses his mother tremendously, that he loved her a lot ... but she has no idea of the bitterness involved, of the trauma of the past, of the hurtful memories. And she can understand him missing his own mother ... as an orphan who still misses her own parents, even in spite of having a loving foster family ... in her own way all she wants is to give him a mother too ... share her foster mother with him as it were ...
So her shock when he snaps at her so brutally about his mother being dead is understandable ... the last time he snapped at her about his parents was at the barsi, when he told her they were dead and she wouldn't understand ...she still has no clue about the trauma involved.
And that's why I felt BG were less than understanding to Khushi ... and were unnecessarily harsh with her ... upset that she pestered Arnav about Amma, but not understanding in the least why she did so ... the problem is Khushi herself sets up people to misunderstand her, because she keeps everything light and funny ... and never tells anyone her true feelings ... not even her own family. So all BG saw was her pestering Arnav to do something he apparently didn't want to do, and his being very understanding and patient about it, they saw a man trying his best to adjust to the changed conditions he found himself in and not complaining ... not knowing the earful he gave Khushi every night about it ... and definitely not knowing the discomforts she had gone through in RM ... they thought she had lived in the lap of luxury since her marriage ... not knowing that for the longest time, she never even had a bed to sleep in, had almost been barred from entering the kitchen, had to fight to win back the love and respect of Nani and Anjali ... while Arnav got it at GH unasked ... Because Khushi never told them.
But still, they could have told Khushi to stop pestering him about Amma far more gently ... the way they spoke to Arnav later about it ... she was already upset about the way Arnav snapped at her, they didn't seem to see that upset at all. All they saw was their damaad's anger at her pestering.
ArHi - Arnav pacing up and down in his room ... furious and upset, beset by old memories again ... angry, hurt ... and yes, guilty ... as he sits and pretends to work at his laptop, it seemed that he was waiting ... waiting for Khushi, because he wanted her to come, he needed her, to blow up at her, vent his anger, because she is the only one he can vent it on ... his anger was not so much at her pestering but at his own memories, and she is a convenient scapegoat, because she will take it ... she never runs away from his anger, but absorbs it into herself ...
And she comes in, just as he is expecting her to ... she says sorry for hurting him, even though she had no intention to do so, she doesn't know why it hurt him so much ... after all, she lost a mother too, and found a mother again in Garima, and that's all she really wanted for him too ...
And because he knows it wasn't her words that hurt, nor her intentions, but his own memories, he stops her from saying any more, from delving any further ...
You don't know what you said, what you made me feel ... that much is true, because he never told her ... you don't understand and you will never be able to ... now that part is not true, just try her, Arnav, and see how she will understand your every pain and sorrow and heal it for you ... how much you hurt me ... it wasn't she who hurt him, but the memories her words brought back ...
And in his own torment, he says words he didn't mean to, and didn't really mean at all ... he might have meant them just one day before, but now he really doesn't ... yet they come out ... much to his almost instant regret ...I'm stuck here with you in this ghatiya place ...
And she's hurt deeply ... she thought he was on the road to accepting her ... her family, he called himself their damaad, he helped them with their groceries, seemed to understand their difficulties ... yet again, it's all about ghatiya place and how he's had to adjust ... her dreams, barely half-formed as they were, splinter again ... no, he will never accept her, and she's a fool to keep dreaming and hoping, time and again ... because she will always be 'ghatiya' for him ...
And her hurt spills out too, yes, he faced discomfort here, but its discomfort for him, it's a way of life for her ... the power cuts, the erratic water supply, the limited budget for rations, which can be blown to pieces by a single meal ... she thought he was on the road to understanding, but it appears not ...
His regret surfaces ... I didn't mean it that way, Khushi ...he really didn't.
And dimly, she does understand, when she sees the regret in his face ... yes, he is angry with her, and he took it out on her family, her circumstances ...
But then her own hurt surfaces ... I'm angry with you too ... for many more reasons apart from the physical discomfort (which she has suffered equally even at RM) ... yet she has never let it show to his family ... has adopted his family as her own uncomplainingly and wholeheartedly, his Nani as hers, his Di as hers ... what's between them is between them alone ... so much has she accepted his family as hers, that she hasn't even told them the truth of their wedding ... while he has time and again brought her family into the equation, threatened Payal's happiness, refused to accept her Amma as his, grouched about the meals, the AC, the mosquitoes ... all she has ever done has been to him, and him alone ... troubling, fighting, teasing, tormenting ... his family is clueless. If she wanted to bring his family in, she could have told them on day one - your grandson/brother forced me into this marriage ... and left him to deal with it ... but she never did. In fact, she has hidden the truth from both families, his and her own. Despite not knowing the reason.
Why? Because she is still craving, clinging to that shred of hope that one day this marriage will become real. As much as he can't leave her, she can't leave him.
And she again does the same - hides the truth from her family ... as she puts on her smiling mask and takes Babuji out for a walk ... she needs the time out ... away from the disapproving worry of BG, from the anger and regret of Arnav ...
RM ... Bubbly is doing the first part of her job ... becoming KMH for Payash. Family pictures in full swing ... I stand corrected, RRR was in the last family picture. And Payal will be cut out. Bubbly darling, if wishes were horses, you and Mami would be riding.
GH - BG making pakodas for Arnav ... (me wants!) And Arnav has disappeared ... reappears with golguppas for the family.
Another milestone on the learning curve - appropriate treats ... this family enjoys golguppas and street food much more than expensive pasta ... wealth is not necessary to furnish the small joys of life - how true! Reminds me of my hubby when we visit Delhi ... my mom loves golguppas, my dad, being typical angrez in his tastes, never did, so my hubby would go out and get them for her!
And it's Arnav's way of apologizing for his earlier outburst ... realizing the truth of Khushi's upset, and that he did disrespect and hurt Garima by his outburst. Although again BG accept his apology gracefully ... and G assures him he can call her what he wants ...
When Buaji said that about Khushi, don't take her too seriously, she is pagal, I felt Arnav was upset on her behalf ... is he seeing that even her own family is never privy to her deepest feelings? That not only has she hidden her problems from his family, but also from her own ... the reason for his unconditional welcome and love and affection from his in-laws is only because they don't know what she has gone through in RM.
Khushi enters, and Arnav sees the mask firmly in place, the chirpy Khushi without a care in the world back in place ... eyes only for her favorite golguppas ... was he stupid to think that she was so hurt by him? She's obviously not ...
And Buaji says that Arnav brought the golguppas, and the mask slips again ... she refuses to eat them, even though obviously longing for them ... but then her lack of malice back, ok, she'll eat one ... golguppas are more important than her upset at LG ...
And he watches her eat with enjoyment ... the simple pleasures of life ... that's Khushi ... his unspoken apology accepted ... he still finds it difficult to apologize to Khushi in so many words.
My thoughts ...
(Been out, need to catch up with the last few posts, but it's almost time for the next episode so keeping this brief. More discussion on Wednesday's post.)
ArHi scene - will Arnav remember Khushi's words that she has never hurt a member of his family, and never ever will?
Also, has either of them given a thought to the fact that time is running out? They seem to be getting more and more used to each other, opening up more and more with each other ... the more these arguments and tears, conversely the closer they seem to become.
Golguppa scene - Arnav looked like he wanted to eat up Khushi, gol guppas and all ... are we heading to another romantic moment, followed by the bombshell?
first reaction.. awww
ReplyDeleteToo many shiddats realised!! I LOVED today's eppy... Story was crisp, emotions in plenty and good direction... Daring to hope that IPK is coming back on track:-)
ReplyDeleteFrom the live updates, i got to know one thing today : what the members esp those that live outside India are busy doing...not drooling over BS for once rather drooling on pani puris...thats awwwww tooo!!
ReplyDeletePani puris??? Yummmm !!!!
DeletePani Puri's??? Running to watch online
ReplyDeleteHehehe all you Indians abroad are sooo cute:-) even my parents used to get really excited with anything Indian when we lived abroad:-)
ReplyDeleteGargi,
DeleteI stay in Mumbai and almost have it once in 15days but still get excited about it. Especialy if it is from the roadside which I rarely get to eat these days.
Hahaha:-) I love that we're commenting and discussing pani puri... Love this virtual coffee shop:-)
DeleteI MISS PAANI PURI!!!
DeleteSAME HERE.....
DeleteI LOVE PANI PURIS :)
DeleteLoved the ma scene !! yes Gargi seems IPK is back on track with crisp emotions and intensity.
ReplyDeleteAnd lots of shiddat granted, but still wish for the chai ki pyali under stary night!
See...i told u....BS is running second today...even R&R is not immune to pani puri charm
ReplyDeleteMy mouth is watering too...
Yahan milta toh hain but nothing to beat the street gol gappas of northern India..esp Lucknow, i am partial to those!!
Yes Aaru, think so oo, SI was fab so was BS
ReplyDeleteWhats the prcap about?Is some family in the neighbourhood having a shaadi and the GH will host some members...Whats K's exp about? Is she going to continue to irritate A until he erupts? BTW what was A wanting to show, bending backwards to get K's approval????
Went for a function, came home running, determinedly avoided IF or any live update and it was goooooooooooooooooood.
DeleteAnd the Ma scene happened, YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
She is going to irritate him again*head desk*
And he is going to be a thorough gentleman again*yawn*
Hai re nandkishore, Show us more bonding between the Guptas not this I will irritate him and my plan will backfire on me and he will get the audience sympathy again....Khushi, you need DM back, like NOW.
Will be out tomorrow too, just wanted to Say Hamari Shiddat ki jai ho!!!!!!!!!
*Hugs everyone*
Dia: It is fantastic to read your full blog posts again*Hugs*
Shwetha, here I am, eating my words :) blog genie , tussi great ho!
DeleteBlog genie ... ditto!!! Hats off ... tussi great ho :D
DeleteShweths,
DeleteImagining you running home from function to see IPK made me go ROFL
So Dia and Jaya, shiddats realized - ok then BG ki jai ho..R&R ki shiddat shakti ki jai ho
Now like aaru said running off to see epi :)
Shweths, Can you pls wish for star gazing shiddat too !! Bang on the Ma scene!!
DeleteAaru: Star gazing and khushi in a saree*shiddat alert*
DeleteNow, to reflect on that K_A scene...that in contrast to her, she says that he shows his mean side to her family members many times...
ReplyDeleteDid K mean the AC incident or food instance or his recent jibe? Somehow that interaction seemed a bit one sided?
I mean I agree that his jibe was below the belt but was K indicating that she has refrained from bringing his family into their equation during their quarrels or what?...dialogues in these scenes are very important...they can make/mar a scene...the moral high ground that K usurps needs to be underscored...
Rekha, I need to watch it again too, to figure that one out - one obvious equation is with Anjali ... Khushi used to call Nani that from the start, but she started calling Anjali Di only when Anjali asked her to, after the wedding, and in spite of all the bitterness between her and Arnav, the moment Anjali told her to call her Di, Khushi agreed instantly. Seen in that light, Khushi could have refused too, saying that she has only one Jiji, who will feel bad, or some such excuse ... but Khushi didn't even think that way. In that sense, as well in the others, she did keep the R family out of the ArHi fight.
DeleteBut again, Khushi already had a closeness with Anjali - Arnav didn't with Garima.
Yes..Dia...one more thing...if its about it happening in front of GH, K cannot run away from her share of blame, tho it might not have been her intention...
DeleteShe said the thing in front of Arnav and she agrees that it was hurtful so being hurt that Arnav shouted in front of her family members doesn't cut ice with me...only becos this was the only time she said it without an intention to rile him.
Or was K saying that I don't bring your family members in to our quarrels so why are u bringing up mine? that i can accept..
K seemed to suggest that just like I keep the facade on for ur family, I expect that u must do the same in front of my family...however to what ends and purposes when she did all everything to rile him up....
The potential in the scene was great, was it exploited, not entirely sure..but it was pretty decent scene
Dia, i am sure u will a good view on this..will read it and discuss
Awww jaya n dia it is not me it is our collective shiddat power:) so shaadi pados may OMG OMG does that mean khushi wil b in saree plz let it b the saree he chose for her and since bitwa is on a guilt trip wil he feel guilty about denying her a more traditional n happy wedding? Shwetha
ReplyDeleteOMG, I never thought of that one ... Khushi is saree with open hair, and Bitwa going all Rabba ve again, with his new found guilt.
DeleteBut if the ME is postponed, does this mean the shaadi in pados has been put in to stretch things a bit longer till Arnav tells Khushi about Shyam? Or will it happen during the shaadi?
Just when we think we can predict what's gonna happen, the cv's throw us another googly! Well, as long as they give us episodes like this in the interim, I can live with that a while longer. Not too long :)
Girls, think the shaadi will be to show A what were k's dreams of marrying....really what her runaway shaadi did to her dreams...maybe not in an explicit way; maybe he catches her saying something wistful....
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DeleteLet it be shadddi - looks like people will overrun premises and Khushi will plot to make Arnav sleep under the stars in the backyard - just like othe normal people do when they ahve guests :)
And then for the wedding - adding my shiddat, let her wear the saree he picked and the bangles. I thought of it the moment u said shaadi :)
If they witness a marriage being done the right way will not the tender heart if Khushi feel the pain of having missed this memorable moment in her life surrounded by loved ones - perhaps push her to ask Arnav again why he caused her this pain?
Girls: I am hoping everything happens, chai under the stars, Arnav feeling guilty for breaking her shaadi dream, Arnav realizing what Shaadi means to someone from Khushi's background and can we have a random girl who got divorced (GODJEE...Fictional character only, samjho yaar plz) and had a tough time so he and Khushi think how she will cope after 6 months. Cos both are not looking past the 6 months, havent even registered that 3 months have passed, so it would be nice jhatka for them ki countdown shuru.
DeleteI am thinking bitiya in a saree, both end up enjoying themselves, diwali near kiss and boom he remembers the terrace and pushes her away.
OR
She gets frustrated that the hate is reserved only for her and with the rest of the world he is nice, so she confronts him.
Either or both, or else, I dont see the confrotnation happening between the two.
Shweths,
DeleteBoth enjoying wedding. Damaad getting place of honour plus him being a big hot shot and all. Saree Khushi meaning some form of diwali nasha but also the joy of seeing her lit up face & bangles noise reminding him of haldi and havan.
There is this rasam - (dunno invent one) about only suhaagans doing something for the bride to be OR perhpas talk of love marriages. One neighbour quips up about a mohalla girl who ran off with someone and was dumped after a while and how she tried to commit suicide because of the loss of face to her family. How they had to leave town.
And someone says but khushi too eloped and married na; but then next neighbour says but that is ok, she got married, she has a rich loving husband who seems to be from a good family, cares about her family and will keep her happy always. ArHi hear this - Arnav realizing why Khushi harps about the significane of a marriage always and what could be the implications to her and her family when the marriage ends. Khushi will realize that she is on a timer now and what would happen when it all ends - she would be thinking of her family; they already faced having to leave Lucknow because of her now what will they do?
She runs off with a fake smile hiding her hurt but in tears. Arnav follows her seeing her tears (they still affect him) and then she asks herself thinking no one is around "kyun arnavji. hum 6 maheene baad kya karenge and covers her face" or maybe looks up at the sky and tells herself ki shaayad humain apne amma babuji ke paas jaan hoga. To her surprise pat comes an answer telling her why he married her.
CHEESY I know. but likhne main kya jaata hai :)
Also, with a wedding happening around them what are the chances that each one fo them will recall their interactions from another wedding in the not too distant past?
DeleteToday Barun lost out to the Pani Puris...the droolers Inc. could not see beyond the pani puris!!
ReplyDeleteon first watch - loved the episode :D
ReplyDelete- so so so glad ODB found out about the financial status and did something immediately about it - have been wanting that for ages - and the way he said - 'why not me? after all i am the damaad of this house' - aawwww could have gone all weak in the knees :D
-loved how he felt guilty about doubting KKG about his car - well portrayed
- Shwetha - OMG - you are great!! band on! - must say that ODB is learning to respond and reciprocate so damn fast - loved the scene - it also gave the gupta ladies a little peek into his hurt - his feelings about having lost his mom
- the Arhi scene - loved how it started - loved ODG going up to him and apologizing - loved his dialogues - you cant even imagine how much you have hurt me (meaning now as well as in the recent past - ofcourse this is him thinking KKG & RRR being together - dettol rinse!!)
But I was kind of out off by ODG's long "this is how poor people live!" dialogue (at first watch)- come on girl you know ASR, you know how much he hurts for his mother - in fact you are the only outsider he has ever opened up to - and you know that the hurt now is related to that - so why the 'holier than thou speech'? - BUT (a bigger but!) - this feeling of mine lasted only till her spheel about how poor families live - once she was back on track about how she never got his family into their fights - the episode was great again -
final verdict - loved it :D - ( and am so so sure that this episode will have repercussions on the blog - damn, am so busy tom - will hardly get time to read :( )
ps. oh - loved the RV - after a really long time loved the expressions of both actors here :D - must also add - ODG was always a good actor but ODB has really really come a long way - from a very stiff portrayal of the character, Barun has really learnt to portray expressions with bang on intensity! well done guys
Going for a rewatch!
She brought in the way families like hers live because he said that he has been forced to live with her and her family in this 'ghattia ghar'. That hit a raw nerve in her and intensified his guilt. She knew that she too hit a raw nerve when she tried to force the 'amma' issue but she was quick to apologise but he was too warped in his hurt that he blurted out words he really did not mean, triggering her barrage.
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oh and have to add - loved his half smile when he was chatting up the gupta ladies and asking for non healthy food!!
ReplyDeletealso the smile, the perfect expressions of the couple when she wanted the gol gappas (but was fighting it!)and he only had eyes for her! :D - must say once they are happily married - he will be a complete pushover, she can twist him around her little finger anytime!!
caught a shot of the Grahpravesh shots - SI looked heavenly - really hope she gets to look as pretty when they actually get together! *total MIG*
- as for the wedding - could be more opportunities for more RV and niharofyinh - saree and all - can we please have a scene where he fills her maang again but this time with care (i know, completely cliche and mb style - but am a sucker for it :D))
Yeh Dil Maange More!
ReplyDeleteI was reminded of mango pachidi -a delicacy down south that it specially made on the new year - a blend of the tangy sourness of mango, bitterness of the neem flower, sweetness of jaggery and spiciness of chillies - reminding us that life is a mix of myriad emotions and happenings and wishing for a well balanced life with a healthy dose of every kind of circumstance!
aww sandy mango pachidi is so apt for this episode.. love, hate, sadness, guilt, forgiveness, happiness, reconciliation.. what an episode! heve to pick out each and every scene to give full justice to it.. so will wait for Dia to do it :D
DeleteWhat Sandy, talking about pachadi...CVs doing sitham with pani puri...u now start with pachadi sweet-sour torture this...remembering my mom's special recipes.
ReplyDeleteTrue...life's is about all these moments...
I watched the epi when it aired here, intrigued as to what caused Arnav to tell GH ladies that Khushi was right...
Does he feel that he has wronged Garima by not agreeing to address her as "amma", the term the relationship confers on her, to which he has owned up to.
He accepts that its not Garim's fault that he can't address he as Amma, the Khushi-Arnav scene before her was therefore unwarranted and thus, he feels the need to explain that while he cannot call anyone "amma", he owes her an apology...that made sense to me.
However, the Khushi outburst is still a mystery...i have not been able to understand that fully...
Rekha,
DeleteKhushi thinks simple. She sees Arnav making an effort for her family and in her way wanted to genuinely tell him that he has a place in this family - and he has the right to call her amma his amma too. Also she felt somewhere that kind of aceptance from him would mean a lot for her mother who was upset that her daughter eloped and married.
Khushi also knows he misses a mother in his life and seeing him bond with hers today in all sincerity told him why should he not adopt Garima as his amma just as she has. She did not know that the not having a mother is raw pain that Arnav is yet to come to terms with (I though up of something in this regard. Will hold on to the thought for now though because it may just be totally baseles..)
She went to apologize but as hurt as he is, his defence mechanism kicks in and the ASR in him lashes out with a ghatiya and it is at that moment that khushi snapped - she can bear it all but she will not hear a word against her family - especially one that is going out of its way to make him feel welcome. Arnav to his credit stopped because he did not mean it and today for teh first time immediately actually stopped khushi to tell her he did not.
Sandy, it was her way of saying, I have accepted yours and why don't you do mine? But the dialouges were out of place the whole middle class thing. Dunno felt that way, they need to work on Khushi's dialogues so that it doesnt end up getting preachy. I would have rather she said, you know in your high class society, All i got was insults and taanays on Muhdikhai and from my society, you got blessings, go figure which is more important.
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DeleteSociety taane and blessings - ASR does not care! Use koi faraq nahi padhtha.
She can only talk family because she has only ever seen him care for family if he chooses to care outside of Di.
Guess they shot it separately but I was ok with that scene. What I liked is she said saadhaaran log and not gareeb log. You know in a way seemed like she was telling him that our real life is so fraught with difficulties and obstacles that to not get depressed we build dreams because they represent hope and hope motivates us to keep facing our daily real life.
It was in a way a retort to the ASR she knew said that money is everying and money can buy anything even people like her.
The acceptance was initial only baaki it was why r u dragging family into our fights. But yes perhaps that scene could have been more tightly bound.
Dia,
ReplyDeleteTF is there in the family picture tho he was not there in the individual snaps, thats the one thing i noticed...anyways why the family pic without Arnav-Khushi? The main breadwinner is out of the pic!!
Is this tree business a filler only...never one to read any symbolism correctly ever unless spelt put in clear terms to me..Help needed!!
Rekha,
DeleteNo one told Bubbli either to come stand with them for a full family snap! Bubbli even thought of Lakshmi though.
So does that mean Arnav and Khushi both will be leaving RM after Shyam's truth and Payal is being kept at a distance to, something to think about.
DeleteShweths,
DeleteWhat struck me is not one person wondered aloud about not having Arnav Khushi around and how they should get one more picture after they come back.
As for them leaving, keep remembering that scene on the morning after wedding when Arnav told his Di "DI, enough of this drama, Khushi and I are married and she is my wife. The earlier you accept the better it is. Else we will both leave this house."
yeah sandy...true....i don't have the foggiest where this Bubbly track is going...,.if it is to give ARHI rest, am all for it
ReplyDeleteTho seriously, Bubbly would have some role to play....don't u think?
She came to get a pic of Mr.A along with his most precious thing. Almost believed it would be her but then realized he overshot her. The Payash linked hands did not take her along rather, went over her leaving her behind. What child can see her one single soulmate giving her 2nd prioroty. My child may sulk, pout, not talk and even ignore me. But moments when I throw open my arms and smile at her, she rushes into my love, care and attention headlong. What would attract Ms.B more - the latest iPad or rather Aakash spending time with her playing an app on that iPad? easy for that child to view payal as that second child who seems to have usurped all the attention the parents initially fawned only on her.
DeleteFamily tree project is all about pictures, hobbies, likes, dislikes - if she waits for her other bhaiyya and bhabhi what are teh chances of them realizing or learning things about themselves and the other while interacting with Bubbli?
I thought the family wala dialogue was because of his ghatiya remark? That she gets that she upset him but then he goes too far and says that anyway he is living in this cheap house with her family, and we all know how fiercely protective she is of her foster family, anything for them and all so when he says that she feels like he is not only attacking her but also her family, the Aukad stuff again, and points. out that she has alWays respected his family? That she never brings them into what's betwen the two of them never takes out her anger on them as a result of his actions. Interstingly though, she says she would never do anything like that and never will, that would have been a great time for odb to think of her asking kj to leave anji right? Par Kya karai, bitwa ko selective amnesia Jo hai ;)
ReplyDeleteshe said "I will never bring your family members into my personal anger towards you".. (but you are insulting my family and their feelings because you are angry with me)
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I had thought that asking him to say amma was an irritation track.. was she serious all this time? she really wanted him to say amma? okay..
Jaya,
DeleteInitially till Mon it was just light hearted. Yday when he called himself the damaad of the house and bought all that stuff, she genuinely wanted him to call Garima amma.
After all despite what may or may not be right in this marriage, when she was accepted as a part of the R family (broken bridges mended at holi), she earned a Di. The others she already called them by their relations to him.
I am not able to get the ARHI scene out of my mind at all...becos at some level i don't connect with it despite the power of the scene.
ReplyDeleteI felt A's jibe about GH took the interaction to a diff tangent. Till then it was about A's hurt, suddenly it became a lesson about classes...and then veered back to K accepting that A had reason to be upset with her as much as K wth A.
What were A's expressions when K said that she would never hurt his family members...he did not seem to show any recollection of past events whereas for viewers, thats the first thing that struck us..Was that a directorial failure? Or was it indicated to show that Arnav is now trying not to let the past cloud his thinking...
Actually thats one of the reasons why i could not relate to Arnav acting guilty suddenly. If its only about Garima "amma" issue, I could make peace with, i can accept that he felt that she must not be dragged into this but otherwise none of A's issues have been resolved so why should he look as if he has achieved resolution.
Rekhs,
Delete"What were A's expressions when K said that she would never hurt his family members...he did not seem to show any recollection of past events"
He will recall this in future and he will wonder if she would not lash out at his family in her anger for him, she places so much importance on relationships and bonding - then how could she be who he perceived she was and one line of the web of MU will begin to unravel. Today he was too agitated to grasp it. All he saw was a girl very hurt because he said something about her family and their way of life in a rush of anger. She also told him he was right to be angry with her for dragging him here but she would not accept it if he 'insults' her family.
To Arnav today was all about having rebuffed her attempt to make him a part of the family in her way and seeing her hurt by his words. She even raised her hand asking him to let her explain but he was so worked up he stopped her from speaking and spewed out what was topmost in his mind.
I think that when Khushi mentioned that she had never hurt his family although she was angry with him, Arnav did not think back on the terrace scene as he would have done under normal circumstances because the guy was already feeling guilty for his actions. He had just realised that Khushi was not behind the missing car parts. He also realised just how much crap the G family were taking for him. Although he had not wanted to intentionally rubbed the fact that he was the rich damaadh, his behaviour since he came to the G house seemed to indicate that he was the snob who couldn't put up with a few inconveniences. So when Khushi lashed out, he meekly and silently accepted it because that is how he himself was feeling about his actions.
DeleteAt a subconscious level he seems to have accepted that Khushi has never openly hurt his family and has always tried to gloss over their fights, pretending everything was fine in front of his family. Yes, her supposed affair with Shyam is to him a betrayal of the trust his family has in her but at the moment that is buried because he is wallowing in his own guilt. The anger may resurface when he comes to know of the tampering of the locker. He may then throw it back in her face how for all her claim that she never hurt her family, she was all along hurting them. Only Khushi may end up thinking that he was referring to her hiding the truth that Shyam was the fiance who lived with them as PG and may go on her own guilt trip because she was hurting Anjali by hiding the truth although the reason why she hid the fact was to protect her from hurt. Case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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Arnav and Sorry at GH
ReplyDelete1st time - to Payl for being the cause her marriage broke and exonerating that blame from Khushi's shoulders
2nd time - to Buaji and garima for being unable to grant Garima that status of a mother as their relationship valids it because he cannot and not because what Khushi said was wrong.
Will there be a 3rd time when he apologizes to Babuji for being the root cause of all the harm that befell him and his family - loss of shop, loss of face, broken marriage stigma, pain of relocation leaving one's own house, making a slime entered their lives, resulting in abbauji's ill health and the added pressure on Khushi and finally the shock of an elopement and the degradation of the large hearted and loved daughter of this house?
Sandy, that is indeed thought provoking. Will Arnav apologise to Babuji? We'll have to wait and see. When you listed the things that befell the G family because of Arnav I just realised how large is the magnitude of his mistake. The poor guy will have tough time forgiving himself, let alone ask forgiveness from others.
DeleteIt also struck me that Arnav is yet to apologise to Khushi for what he did back in Lucknow. Although he had apologised to Payal about it and told her that Khushi should not blame herself for the stalled wedding, he couldn't bring himself to directly tell that to Khushi. He finds it the hardest to ask Khushi's forgiveness although he knows that he keeps hurting her with his thoughts and actions. Khushi had to goad him to apologise for his thoughtless words when she tried to console him about her parents. Words just stuck in his throat and took time coming out. His apologies to her since then have either been mumbled beneath his breath or tendered to a sleeping Khushi. Maybe for people like Arnav who suppresses his emotions most of the times, it is hardest to apologise to the one who is closest to you. He has made up for the lack of words by his thoughtful and touching actions which showed her his remorse as well as his keenness to reconcile with her.
Once his MU clears the guy is most likely to go into a shell, unable to face her with his guilt. He may not stop her when she leaves thinking he had never loved her and was only taking revenge for her unintentional disturbance of his sister's life. He may punish himself severely for ruining the life of the only woman he ever loved in a romantic way. This may draw her back to him when she comes to know of it as Khushi can never stand to see anyone hurt, least of all the man she loves so deeply.
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Sandy I think he will, I am just hoping it happens before the confrontation. I want arnav-Gupta bond to be at the strongest when hell breaks loose. Knowing Arnav he wont do it in front of Khushi.
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DeleteI want him to do so too! Bauji Arnav bonding scene has been on ly list forever now. Yes I guess it will not be in front of Khushi. Khushi just walked in as he finished making up with the G ladies.
I was thinking of a scene from this movie Tum Bin where the heroine realizes towards the end that the man she loves was responsible for the accidental death of her fiance. This man accepts his mistake to her and tells her he came to apologize but instead fell in love with her. She comes to her ex-fiance's father and talks to him about the conflict b/w wanting her love and wanting justice. Her FIL says whatever you do, my son will never come back but do not ask me to hold a grudge against this boy because the very first day he came here, he told me all the truth and apologized and all he has done since he reached here is repent for his actions and supported this whole family. How can I hate him when he did not hid the truth from me. The FIL is a wheelchair bound man due to a stroke resulting from his son's sudden death. Initially he did not have speech even but with care and attention over time, the speech returned.
Arnav Gupta bond needs to be strong because this is a boy who cannot call anyone mother.
I also want the Arnav-Anji bond to be tested. It was in one of my early comments on R&R. It needs to be because there is a lot that has happened and will happen to these 2 and they have changed as people over time so that bond needs to be tested and found wanting and re-bonded with a fresh perspective.
Today's epi reminded me of these scenes from the past:
ReplyDelete1. The hospital bill pay because Khushi was having trouble paying it all
2. The haughty ASR who stormed the house one night, threw a wad of notes on the table and Khushi sadly had to pick it up and bow to his wishes because her family needed the money for necessities
3. Khusi pleading with ASR to have chaat and lassi at the cocktail party - som desipana so Payal feels comfortable. A Khushi who went on to mas her hurt from the broken engagement so her sister would smile.
4. Khushi's harmles pranks to annoy ASR with jucie in shoes, ringtine et al but unknowingly hurting him with boiling tea.
Jaya,
ReplyDeleteyou made a post yday about 5070 for a pasta bill. I windered it could easily have been 5000 and you know the 1st thoughts that came to mind - 5th July or 7th May
One is 2 far off and one is 2 weeks away - kuch hone wala hai soon:)
I sure hope so yaar.. ab toh kuch hone ki ummeed lekar mein hoon jee raha..
Delete@ Sandy a very apt description of the episode today, yes indeed a mango paachdi, for the ASR.
ReplyDeleteToday’s episode reminded me what my Grandmother always said when I used fight with my sis or argue with my parents, aaru quarrels end, but words once spoken or your action done never dies.
For me today’s episode was all about that, Arnav understanding his action and its implications. And the whole Arhi scene is all about past and present.
@Rekha according me ODG was refereeing to the all his action/words past and present and it affecting her family right from the start of the Fashion show till day with his jibe of ‘gatiya ghar’.
She knows she hurt him and apologized but him hurting her below the belt didn’t go well. That’s when the flood gates of past and present are out. Its first time when ODB understands the implication of his words and action - How each of his actions and words has not just her but her family too- which is where he for the first time clarifies, he never meant that. And true all her anger and narazgi is with him, she never leads to his family and her telling him that she will never get them in between was in fact where he understood the implication of his words spoke in anger and hence for once he tries to stop her , loved this part.
Now coming to the calling Ma part loved this scene to core,because of G ladies and soft touch of Buaji where she goes to him and caress his face.
SN : when ODB says "why can't I do it, after all am the damaad of the this house", Is it me or anyone else felt that Bitwa was shocked to call himself as damaad ?
Aaru,
DeleteWhat you said I thought in song :)
"Aadmi jo kehta hai, aadmi jo karta hai,
Zindagi bhar woh sadayein peecha karti hain,
Aadmi jo deta hai, aadmi jo leta hai,
Zindagi bhar woh duaayein peecha karti hai"
and one of my all time fav quotes;
"relationships are like chinaware,
very fragile and extremely rare,
once broken, can be mended,
but the cracks are always there"
Don't they say Time once gone and words once said can neevr come back! - your grandma was so right!
The words that khushi said.. I do not think that she meant to say all the things you ever did in anger towards me and my family.. though we, the audience, certainly remember!
DeleteThe amma scene.. I did not get it..
1. ASR who did not even accept his marriage to Khushi..(at mooh dikhayi he told tayi, he said Never) is providing for the gupta household's rations. he needs an excuse.. plays the damaad card. that much I expected.
the execution, though, left a bad taste in my mouth, like the bitterness after an avocado milkshake.
instead of ASR, we get Barun.. sappy romantic guy. then khushi is happy.. he said he is damaad.. (I did not like that dialogue too.. how is he the damaad? he just has a marriage contract with khushi, to punish her, remember..) even if he felt guilty for inconveniencing the Guptas, he would have said " you call me dammadji, so i can do this right?" instead of "i am the damaad of this house"... did ASR forget? did the CVs think we forgot?
again in the apology scene.. he goes out after the fight, buys chaat for the family.. such a non-ASR thing to do.. have we seen him ever buy anything in apology? even to La(where it was expected)?
he said sorry to buaji and aunty ji.. but it was buaji who came and touched his face.. why? has amma not forgiven him yet? or is it that it is buaji who is more swayed by her feelings? always senior sanka devi? (but buaji was the one who has direct experience of his callousness.. when khushi was working for him and after.. while garimaji was relatively new, and should be much more ready to forgive him)
SN1 BG were making pakore.. non-healthy food for damaadji :)
SN2 why was the shopkeeper calling her buaji? must be madhumathiji, right? everyone were saying madhumatiji ke yahaan damaad aye he..
SN3 I get it, Chote was feeling guilty but seeing him niharofying her, (flashback to the scene where she said you don't know how to make other people happy) I dunno i think this is the start of a romance track through wednesday(guest, stars) and thu(wedding, sari), to end in a bomb on friday!
He brought things for La when he wanted to apologize..twice..Once was in office when la says she loved her new purse or something and second when it is Khushi's first day at work, he snaps at La or soemthing, he comes home thinks La is in the kitchen and instead sees Khushi, notice he has a gift in his hand.
DeleteRemember for wooing payal too, he said get her loads of gifts. The difference I find is earlier, he would buy what he thought was right for that person, now he buys what the other person would love getting.
Waisay, this is more Barun/arnav than ASR...Maybe a haircut might help:(
I totally agree to the bomb on Friday. When the epi finished with bitwa admiring bitiya’s simple joy, it was a touching moment. I was reminded of him looking at her similarly in the HR episode b4 the HR scene.It was a similar pattern there too. She was totally miffed with him (Khamand ka wajan dialogue)- he felt bad about hurting her - got lost in her happiness when she enjoyed a light moment with mami & nani- picked up her earrings with RV - almost spilled his heart out as Ranjha – enter Shyam- explosion at the staircase. This track is going the same way. All that is left is ASR finding about the locker key, small MU, big explosion and prob they will clear up the mess since there are plenty of witnesses. I am not complaining because they gave us 2 good episodes in a row. They have been full of Khushi too. Sanaya is looking brilliant.
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Bomb toh pakka hai. The RV tune was the new waala RV tune - I actually thought of Arnav seeing Khushi being excited seeing the bangles he got her.
DeleteShweths,
Deletetotally yaar, he brought something which he thought the saamne waala will like. It was mainly to patao Khushi because he had yelled at her and he knew she liked chaat.
Shucks almost felt if the epi had continued, khushi wud fold her arms and ask him aap hamaare liye gol gappe kyun leke aaye? :P
Dia,
ReplyDelete"after all, she lost a mother too, and found a mother again in Garima, and that's all she really wanted for him too"
Crux of the epi today. Like the edit so far. Waiting for teh rest.
But I also wondered, however good your intention, can you grant the right or expect someone to accept the right to call a person mother on your say so?
Mother - the one you remember when you are hurt, when you are low, when you are sick, in whose lap every problem seems to fade away, darkness recedes and the mosters under the bed melt away. Mother in whose arms, you find your paradise, with whom you take teh liberty to voice your innermost feelings yet crave her acceptance.
I recall a saying I saw on a billboard once - 'The moment a child is born, a mother is born'. When a woman gives birth, does she automatically earn the right for that child to call her mother? Some may say yes because she nurtured and loved that child even in her womb. But is it also not a fact that Krishna was always and even today is considered Yashoda's nandalala and not his birth mothers because it was Yashoda who nurtured him and showered him with her love and affection. The mother gives her child the right to lay a claim on her affection and the child bestows on the mother the compliment and respect of being his Ma!
Recalled this song on Maa by Sagarika Ghosh
http://hindiquotes.org/maa-sagarika/
Wow sandy, yep relations are chinaware. And right any relation has to be from heart. You know Sandy today when i was watching the episode again and we discussing that K wanted to him to have that motherly belonging hence she insisted him. I was just noticing the contrast here- A's all close relations is bound by blood, while for K all are through heart. Hence it was easy for K to call his Nani - Nani or Anjali as Di because all her association to relationships has been thru heart while for Bitwa it's difficult to get anyone into the circle other than blood/bonds.
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DeleteIn one of the initial epis I think babuji also told Khushi that their bond is much stonger than a blood bond because it a bond from the heart. You have to accept the bonds forged by blood but you can choose which bonds of the heart you want to forge.
Sandy, enjoyed reading all your bak bak today ... this one about a mother brought something to my mind ... just voicing some half-formed thoughts here.
Delete"But I also wondered, however good your intention, can you grant the right or expect someone to accept the right to call a person mother on your say so?"
He says to BG ... 'I can't call anyone Ma.' Doesn't give any reason, that my mother meant a lot to me, blah blah ... he leaves it at that.
Is it just the fact that Arnav can't accept someone in his mother's place, because he loved her so much? Or is there something more to it?
Every time he speaks about his mother, there is a bitterness that she left him and went away ... is that a normal reaction when your mother died in strange, probably violent circumstances? Shouldn't it be more like 'she was taken from us too early, she left us too early' - a sense of sorrow, of anger at God and the situation, rather than this sense of betrayal?
When I thought about Arnav's past, and Nani's anger with his father, my thoughts were that the father betrayed them, maybe had an affair with a middle/low class girl, hence the anger with all middle/low class young girls, and not with the middle class in general ... he accepts Shyam and Mami willingly ...
But was there some mystery with his mother as well, for that sense of betrayal ... and is that why he refuses to call anyone Maa ... because the word is tainted for him ... associated with memories all right, but not all memories are good ones.
Also brought another thought to my mind ... Khushi knows there is some bitterness associated with his dad - she heard Nani say it the day after the wedding. So she never asks Arnav to call Shashi 'Babuji'. She does know Arnav misses his mother terribly - she heard him say it in the temple to Anjali, he said it to her on the starry night scene ...
Is that why she is only asking him to call Garima Amma and ignoring Babuji ...
Does she have the right? Yes, she does as his wife. She knows her parents, she knows Garima will like it ... all parents like to be accepted by their SIL's ... the DIL's are expected to adopt their husband's family as their own, but few expect that the SIL's will be equally accepting, especially in this middle class society, where a girl after marriage belongs primarily to her sasural, and the Damaad is an honored guest, for whom all allowances are made ... not a simple regular member of the family who can be expected to rough it out.
Notice when Khushi and Buaji tell Nandini mausi to bring her guests, Garima is most bothered about Arnav's comfort ... so whatever he might say about being damaad, part of the family, having the right to buy provisions etc, he is still a person whose wishes and comfort are paramount - not like the rest of them, who can be inconvenienced if required. A subtle difference, but it's there.
Dia,
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"Is it just the fact that Arnav can't accept someone in his mother's place, because he loved her so much? Or is there something more to it?"
Glad it was not just me. But yes that epi made me think ki why has it been so difficult for him to accept the loss of his mother and he specifically said he cannot call anyone mother. Made me pause and think. Her leaving him and going away is ok but can that cause this level of angst?
Like u said Dia, is there something more to his mother which makes the subject taboo?
Yep looks like Khushi only wanted him to have a mom because she recalls him asking her whether his mother would have been happy with him. Had he made Garima his amma she would have told him how happy she was with all he was doing. SO khushi's heart was in the right place. My thoughts went onto more like yes Khushi is ok with it and she has let him know but finally it is upto those 2 people to decide and agree what to call each other. Like my husband can tell me to call his mum amma but I may not want to call her just what I call my mum but a variation of it like just ma or mummy. I think what I wanted to say was whether just on someonw's say so u can go ahead and call someone by a name. aatma bhi to accept karni chaahiye na - u shd want to call a person ma and not because someone told u to.
Dialogues which imprinted themselves on my head after the epi
ReplyDelete"mai kiseeko Maa nahi keh sakta"
"hum rasoi main jagah banaa lenge"
"main khaat bhi bahut hoon aur aap khilaati bhi bahut hain"
the whole mother dialogues made me think of this hindi movie Tehzeeb.
There is this one song there
"aap ko mujhse gila hota naa shikva hota
meree majburee ko gar aap ne samajha hota, samajha hota
dard kee yaad me bhee dard hai, behtar yeh tha
apane jakhmo kaa hisaab hamne naa rakha hota
meree majburee ko gar aapne
samajha hota, samajha hota
khwaab dekhe the jo hamne, woh sabhee sach hote
sochiye aisa gar hota toh kaisa hota"
At the end there is a dialogue where the husband tells his wife, this lady's daughter, "sach sach bataao, jab tum beemar hoti ho, tumhe koi chot lagti hai toh sabse pehle tum kiska naam leti ho?" and she says "Maa" - They are debating letting the younger sis go off with teh girl's mother.
Also the mother after seeing how her son in law has taken care of her daughters tells him herself to call him mumma and he does!
The rasoi and the khilati bahu dialogue made me recall this scene is Devdas - (SLB waali) b/w Chandramukhi and Devdas. Devdas tells Chandramukhi that the peymaana that is his dil is full of paro. So if she puts in anything more into it, the cup will overflow. And she says so what log toh yehi kanege na ki peymaane ko chookar guzri thi.
Arnav / ASR / Chotay - a man hungry for love and demands a lot of it for his insecurities run deep but the largesse of care and affection at GH seems to be bigger than his hunger for love and acceptance.
Today his mother's thoughts fill Arnav's heart that any love Garima pours makes the cup overflow making a passing contact with the rim. When the wounds of his heart heal the cup that is his heart will be whole again and he will absorb all her love into the heart while he would also have made a place for himself in her heart.
She will give him license to call him mother and he will bestow his respect by giving her that title.
It may not be a exact analogy - just that those dialogues reminded me of these movies and scenes.
Dia, that movie you have mentioned is Bas Itna Sa Khwaab Hai. A man so intent on giving himself wings that he forgets his roots for a while - but as they say however tall a tree may grow, it is still grounded for it is the roots that nourish and bear the weight of the tree. A plant is redeemable if its leaves and stems rot but when the root rots, it is nearly always cast away - The climax of the movie, Walk in the Clouds where an entire vineyard is razed to teh ground but hope abound because the root of the main plant is untarnished.
In a family tree, it is the elders who form the base, while the newer generations represent the ever expanding branches and leaves. While each new shoot reaches out to the sun and synthesizes its own nourishment, it is always connected via a wed of stems and branches to the roots - a person's past, origins, family, ancestors...
Sandy, I marvel at ur ability to recall dialogues/instances in movies....the anology to the chalice scene in Devdas...was nice even tho it was in a diff context....it was apt for the scene above somehow
DeleteI actually loved the scene of A explaining to Garima about his inability to call her "amma", i have always believed, one needs to feel these things from within and actions do speak louder than words...
Altho not linked to the serial, i have felt that women find it easier to admit to newer relationships than men to a great extent due to the social conditioning and drilling received over the growing up years...its not so like that any more tho...just a thought...
Rekha yaar aisa kuch nahi hai. Somehow I liked Tehzeeb a lot. Struck a chord and stayed with me.
DeleteThat Devdas scene like u said tho context everything was different bas yaad aa gaya - it was the jagah banaalenge and the paymaana chalak jaayga. U know in that scene in the movie what struck me. Chandramukhi was so desperate for Devdas' love and acceptance that she was willing to be associated with him even by the merest of excuses. Heartbreaking!
one little thought.. bubbly is taking pics of people with their favorite things..
ReplyDeletemami and her makeup kit..
nani and her goat..
Di and her soft toys...
akash and his wife..
what would sham's favorite thing be? soap?
(and what would yours be, if someone wanted a pic like that? your kids? your phone? something else?)
Good question, Jaya - I can answer that one :) - My hubby and kids :)
DeleteWe had to leave a city once in the middle of the night, because of riots ... we were evacuated, about 5-6 families. Trying to decide what to take with us, knowing we might never come back ... sobering thought, it strips you to the bare essentials of what you value most in life - apart from your loved ones, of course.
We made sure we took our educational certificates, and I also carried our wedding pics and my kids' baby pictures. Your education is something no one can ever take away from you - and you need only that to rebuild your life if, God forbid, you ever have the need. Our wedding and kids' pictures - memories that are irreplaceable.
All our other material goods were left behind - they were all replaceable.
And yes, we came back home after three weeks, when the riots were safely over! :)))
Sandy,
ReplyDeleteI am huge fan of Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay's works..pity i can't read Bengali so i am forced to read translations of his works. Still i make an attempt to read his works...as much as possible. ur devdas brought me those memories
a situation in the Dilip Kumar_SSen_Vyj starer Devdas...where Vyjyantimala is trying her best to hold back the drunk Kumar and sings the beautiful song
Jise tu qubool karle, woh dil kahan se laaon
tere dil ko, jo lubha le vo ada kahaan se laaun
Main vo phul hun ke jis ko, gaya har koi masal ke
meri umr bah gai hai, mere aasuon men dhal ke
Jo bahaar ban ke barase, vo ghata kahaan se laaun
Tujhe aur ki tamanna, mujhe teri aarzoo hai
tere dil men gham hi gham hai, mere dil men tu hi tu hai
jo dilon ko chain de de, vo dava kahaan se laaun
Meri bebasi hai zaahir, meri aahen be-asar hai
kabhi maut bhi jo maangi, to na paai us ke dar se
jo muraad le ke aae, vo du'a kahaan se laaun
Sandy and Rekha, you guys are fabulous! You add so much to the depth and richness of the discussions here with your quotes of scenes and songs from these classics!
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