18th April Wednesday
Much Ado About ...
Soap ... Shyam sees red about missing soap, sweet talks Bubbly and retrieves it.
SN - Bubbly is a brat.
Rangoli ... who makes such a huge rangoli at the entrance, that the visitors can't even enter?!
Liked Arnav's grouchy 'if it's so difficult to enter, let's leave.' Such a typical unwillingly visiting son-in-law remark!
And Khushi takes full advantage of Arnav's vulnerability to do some mischief ... turn around, wow, how nice to see you listen to me for once! What a pity Arnav isn't blessed with a sense of humor! Can't the guy make it across the rangoli without making such a production out of it?
Cv's, we said we liked the instrumental Rabba ve's much better ... save the vocal ones for the real thing! This one on the stairs didn't work for me ... although the hand-holding did. And that little taana by Khushi - 'should I let you go? No, I won't, it will spoil the rangoli.' A throwback to the times he has held her, dropped her ... and threatened to. And saved her too - for reasons other than what he claimed.
The aarti scene was cute ... Arnav had exactly the same expressions as he did when Anjali did her never-ending aartis. Slightly more grouchy, if anything.
The food ... agree with all here ... not in good taste. Khushi knows that Arnav's food habits need to be regular - this is one area she should be careful with. Did she actually tell them to make boiled food, or just that he was sick, and didn't like spicy food? Am trying to give her the benefit of doubt here. Poor Garima and Buaji had taken pains to make the food the way they thought Arnav needed it, they were so disappointed when he didn't like it.
The cooler - The whole cooler thing was somehow sad ...Garima and Buaji doing their best to get the cooler going effectively, Arnav trying to be tolerant. If he had been a more pleasant person, he could just have gotten up with his plate and sat in front of the cooler, though ... instead of sitting there with that long-suffering look on his face. Or letting the ladies pull the heavy table, without helping, or even offering to.Or said a little more forcefully that he was all right, and didn't need it. Said it as though he meant it. He came across as being patronising ... trying his best to tolerate all the middle class nonsense. Which in a way, was exactly what he was being - he was there on sufferance, and didn't particularly want to be pleasant.
Bubbly's painting ... more of Payal-Mami barbs, now with added tadka of Bubbly-Payal barbs. Did we really need those?
Hiccups - and more running around for water and sugar and who's remembering Arnav. And Garima and Buaji had specially made sugar-free halwa for him - what was the problem with that one? He could have been more gracious about the food, instead of making faces - and blasted Khushi later. She deserved it, if she was responsible.
Why is she so happy about his not being able to eat, though? Again destruction of Khushi ... especially after she knows his food requirements. *head desk*
Arnav bitwa, middle class homes don't use handwash - they use soap! Get used to it. And the bigda Raizada wants his own towels as well. The broken mirror was a bit OTT,... though again, a mirror outside in the verandah is prone to hits from neighborhood kids playing cricket, and is always left as last priority to be replaced ... you don't really need a mirror to wash your hands. An outside light has the same fate - takes forever to be replaced.
Khushi laughing silently at the familiar sight of Buaji looking for her glasses, which were as usual perched on her forehead, was cute - I remember the sisters laughing at this sight earlier in show too.
The nosy neighbors were cute too ... and again, soooo typical! Both well-meaning and curious ... just wanting to see a tycoon at first hand ...
Not as bad as I expected ... but definitely not great. Still don't see where the cv's are going with this one. Is this for Arnav to get to know some truths about Khushi and Shyam ... his realization is done with, we don't need more of that.Or is this for Khushi to see that Arnav is being as tolerant and patient as he can be, and start wondering again why he's determined to keep their marriage going regardless of what she does ... but then again, till he tells her something, she can't do very much at all. Even if she figures out that Shyam is somehow involved, what good will it do? She will never guess that Shyam has told Arnav that she loves Shyam ... she feels that Arnav does know of her feelings and is rebuffing them, so why would she ever think he could believe she cares for Shyam.
At most, she would feel his anger was due to her hiding the truth about Shyam ... but then, he would have confronted her about it ... that would be her thinking.
When she got engaged, he asked her why she hadn't told him. When her engagement broke, he was upset that she hadn't told him. So if he knew about Shyam he would immediately ask her why she hadn't told him ...
A bit of an impasse here.
Much Ado About ...
Soap ... Shyam sees red about missing soap, sweet talks Bubbly and retrieves it.
SN - Bubbly is a brat.
Rangoli ... who makes such a huge rangoli at the entrance, that the visitors can't even enter?!
Liked Arnav's grouchy 'if it's so difficult to enter, let's leave.' Such a typical unwillingly visiting son-in-law remark!
And Khushi takes full advantage of Arnav's vulnerability to do some mischief ... turn around, wow, how nice to see you listen to me for once! What a pity Arnav isn't blessed with a sense of humor! Can't the guy make it across the rangoli without making such a production out of it?
Cv's, we said we liked the instrumental Rabba ve's much better ... save the vocal ones for the real thing! This one on the stairs didn't work for me ... although the hand-holding did. And that little taana by Khushi - 'should I let you go? No, I won't, it will spoil the rangoli.' A throwback to the times he has held her, dropped her ... and threatened to. And saved her too - for reasons other than what he claimed.
The aarti scene was cute ... Arnav had exactly the same expressions as he did when Anjali did her never-ending aartis. Slightly more grouchy, if anything.
The food ... agree with all here ... not in good taste. Khushi knows that Arnav's food habits need to be regular - this is one area she should be careful with. Did she actually tell them to make boiled food, or just that he was sick, and didn't like spicy food? Am trying to give her the benefit of doubt here. Poor Garima and Buaji had taken pains to make the food the way they thought Arnav needed it, they were so disappointed when he didn't like it.
The cooler - The whole cooler thing was somehow sad ...Garima and Buaji doing their best to get the cooler going effectively, Arnav trying to be tolerant. If he had been a more pleasant person, he could just have gotten up with his plate and sat in front of the cooler, though ... instead of sitting there with that long-suffering look on his face. Or letting the ladies pull the heavy table, without helping, or even offering to.Or said a little more forcefully that he was all right, and didn't need it. Said it as though he meant it. He came across as being patronising ... trying his best to tolerate all the middle class nonsense. Which in a way, was exactly what he was being - he was there on sufferance, and didn't particularly want to be pleasant.
Bubbly's painting ... more of Payal-Mami barbs, now with added tadka of Bubbly-Payal barbs. Did we really need those?
Hiccups - and more running around for water and sugar and who's remembering Arnav. And Garima and Buaji had specially made sugar-free halwa for him - what was the problem with that one? He could have been more gracious about the food, instead of making faces - and blasted Khushi later. She deserved it, if she was responsible.
Why is she so happy about his not being able to eat, though? Again destruction of Khushi ... especially after she knows his food requirements. *head desk*
Arnav bitwa, middle class homes don't use handwash - they use soap! Get used to it. And the bigda Raizada wants his own towels as well. The broken mirror was a bit OTT,... though again, a mirror outside in the verandah is prone to hits from neighborhood kids playing cricket, and is always left as last priority to be replaced ... you don't really need a mirror to wash your hands. An outside light has the same fate - takes forever to be replaced.
Khushi laughing silently at the familiar sight of Buaji looking for her glasses, which were as usual perched on her forehead, was cute - I remember the sisters laughing at this sight earlier in show too.
The nosy neighbors were cute too ... and again, soooo typical! Both well-meaning and curious ... just wanting to see a tycoon at first hand ...
Not as bad as I expected ... but definitely not great. Still don't see where the cv's are going with this one. Is this for Arnav to get to know some truths about Khushi and Shyam ... his realization is done with, we don't need more of that.Or is this for Khushi to see that Arnav is being as tolerant and patient as he can be, and start wondering again why he's determined to keep their marriage going regardless of what she does ... but then again, till he tells her something, she can't do very much at all. Even if she figures out that Shyam is somehow involved, what good will it do? She will never guess that Shyam has told Arnav that she loves Shyam ... she feels that Arnav does know of her feelings and is rebuffing them, so why would she ever think he could believe she cares for Shyam.
At most, she would feel his anger was due to her hiding the truth about Shyam ... but then, he would have confronted her about it ... that would be her thinking.
When she got engaged, he asked her why she hadn't told him. When her engagement broke, he was upset that she hadn't told him. So if he knew about Shyam he would immediately ask her why she hadn't told him ...
A bit of an impasse here.
Dia*hugs*
ReplyDeleteI didn't like this epi at all. Why are they doing this to Khushi*head desk*
I want to see the Diwali Khushi the one who rushed and told her family inhay meetha mana hai.
She is having fun at his expense, Okay that is fine.
Why is she involving her family too.
I mean welcoming Damaad is a huge thing for a family like Guptas right? And the Gupta ladies are making every effort to make him comfy.
And to be fair Arnav is trying...the bland food, whatever the conditions...He is trying to assure them that he is fine without complaining.
Haven't we heard and seen the Nakhroo and akdoo type damaads in our real life circle.
My heart went out to Garima when she asked sadly he didn't like the food. And Khushi brushed it off.
Now can you blame the guy for ordering food from outside if during his stay in RM he is going to be served such food.
Correct me If I am wrong, he never involves his or her family in their fights.
Bitwa needs to be fought and taught a lesson agreed, but why is she involving her family ya, it just didn't go with the Khushi I know.
I mean she is putting him in discomfort (Okay she can) but why is she sort of sabotaging the relationships between him and her family.
Can't Khushi see the effort her family is putting up for her hubby and Arnav for all his grumbling is being diplomatic and polite.
I want my Khushi back.I don't like this Khushi yaar.
In all this mess, I really feel for Sanaya, She doesn't look too happy does she.
And the new tagline says how will Khushi take revenge on her insult? Mehhhhhhhhhhh
More OTT????*HEAD Desk*
I had high expectations of this Track vis a vis Khushi that she will sit and think that he is not complaining, is being very nice and extremely diplomatic and even affectionate towards her family.
I stil have a slim ray of hope that after all this OTT thing ends, Buaji and Amma drill some sense into her that and show Arnav in a new light that she is not seeing.
Yes granted bitwa keeps contradicting himself with his words and actions. I hope the ladies at G family show the other side of this complex man she has married.
They need to get their act together on Khushi, or else the story will completely lose its charm.
1 scene rabba vey type, nahhhhhhh. And who keeps a broken mirror in their home ya, come on!!!
Will look forward to yours and everyone's post, sorry for such a depressing comment:(
Thank god I am not just the one who didn't like the episode!!! hai re DM kya socha tha and what they are showing?? Why CV's why do you have to make Khushi OTT every time??
DeleteOk till the rangoli and arti scenes were fine. Even the ladies coming with excuses to see Bitwa is also fine with me (seen that happening many times)or Buaji with her excitement breaking the cooler, that too tend to happen, but then WT??? With the food and hand wash and mirror??? No wonder Bitwa orders food from Hotel. Guys don't make G's so third class.. And my heart did go out to Garima when she asked if they weren't up to his expectation..
I have lost all expectation from this track. I will prefer to see TF with his soap plan.
I still have a tiny hope from this after today’s tagline of K getting back at A. may be the hotel bill will lead to a argument where she will let him see the real side of a middle class.. Maybe like a lecture she gave in the Guest House which helped Bitwa to see things in new light. Just hope this is where OTT of K is going...
Aarthi the thing is He has not complained once to garima or bua. He has been very gracious. And if he complains to Khushi, he has every right to - hubby thing apart, she was the one responsible for the bland food right.
DeleteWarna I am sure the Gupta ladies would have floored him with their cooking talent. Arnav recognizes, grumbles but does not complain to anyone.
It is not Arnav who needs to see the love of middle class but Khushi who needs to see Arnav loves everyone despite the middle class.
Shweths,
DeleteAre the per chance playing Mouna Ragam in reverse - with Khushi hell bent on showing family how akdoo he is?
And I see you running behind Khushi with danda now :D
aiyooooooo nahin re...I want a softer Khushi now who is able to see past his words and concentrate on his actions.
DeleteCaought the epi online....
ReplyDeleteStraying toward the predictable at least on first watch...the class divide handled in a strange manner.....I don't know what the lack of handwash/broken mirror scene served to achieve? We wrote about being apprehensive on how class divide is going to be handled, first impressions don't look very encouraging.
The discomfort of A in these environs was done well...and K asking A to call Garima "Amma" instead of Aunty was also cute...
RV..did not work for me at all...
to echo ASR.. "yeh kahaan bhas gaya mein!"
ReplyDeletecannot believe this is what I was waiting for after yesterday's interesting windup.. sham got the soap back. ASR is taking dancing lessons from his biwi.. they could put a huge rangoli(why does anyone put such a big one? is it normal?) but could not replace the washbasin mirror? okay I know they are poor people.. but why almost make fun of them?? I was hoping for heartfelt feelings, happy reunions.. instead I get nautanki?
butchering garima and buaji's concern.. they did not know to shout in the newlyweds' face once they arrive?
the neighbors.. I loved the actors..exactly like what happens.. why does khushi and garima have no idea why they are there?
I liked it that ASR ordered a truckload of stuff for the house.. any guy who sees his wife's house in this state will do that, right?
i admit i liked the slowness of a particular scene yesterday.. now all the scenes are slow? are they learning from DBH?
for once i have to say the best thing in the episode today (for me) was snakewa.
Itni badi rangoli daal kar your doors are closed when you know the couple is arriving any moment just so damaad can have rangoli dance, WT WT WT?
DeleteThe neighbours were good, snakewa was smart, we need atleast one of his plans to succeed for the story to move forward, kaisay din aa gaya hain nandkishore, praying for snake's plan's success:)
Ladies I am in for a tough Thurs and Fri - so take heart epis will get better - this is Sandy gyaan ;)
ReplyDeleteAbhi to finish all work and still sit and watch this at night
Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon...!!!!
Sandy ab tere kaam ka hi bharosa hai..If at the end of all this OTT, if it is heading for khushi's realization, it is okay. As it happens...extreme heat kay baad rain...so after Extreme OTT we get some sanity. Let us hope.
DeleteWhy do they have to bring down a character to glorify the other?
I didn't like the rangoli dance of ASR and in that there is a very awkward shot of Barun crouching cum squatting that had me WT?? Ruined the moment completely. Why demean ASR like this just to Show Khushi having some fun?
Why show Khushi as an airhead, he has diabetes and not High B.P. or a fever, he has barely eaten and the audience symapthy will be awwwww, he is being so sweet, she doesn't care yada yada.
I want to feel for both and not one character:(
Shweths, see the problem is that Khushi HAS an agenda in her mind ... she wants to irritate Arnav. She has tried everything else - cajoling, shouting, walking out, blackmailing, threatening, crying ... everything, and he still doesn't tell her the reason for their marriage. So if you keep that agenda of hers in mind, does her behaviour make sense? That she wants to irritate him into losing his temper and letting out something in his anger?
DeleteShyam has an agenda too - he wants the file, he wants to stay married to Anjali as of now, Khushi is actually on the back burner for him till he can figure out Arnav's plans for him. So he's acting accordingly too.
Arnav is the only one who is sailing on auto-pilot, and doing absolutely nothing to alter the status quo ... all he's doing is vacillating between 'I love Khushi,' and 'Khushi betrayed my sister and me'. So at the moment he's getting all the sympathy, by doing absolutely nothing of any worth at all, except being slightly less grouchy and more tolerant than usual. When he threw Khushi out of the bedroom, he got all the brickbats, but at least he was doing something then. Right now he's not. Not as far as I can see in the last few episodes. He's not working on the Shyam angle, he's not even beginning to question Khushi's guilt.
Hope that made you feel better :) I still have five minutes to watch the episode ... it might change my thinking!
Dia, I am all for her irritating him to get the truth out, I say go all out, but my issue is she is involving her family who despite their limited resources are trying everything to make him comfy.
DeleteThe bland food is strictly her fault and she has sort of magnified his dislikes so the Ladies are making that much extra effort.
Irritate him with mausam hai suhaana, put juice in shoes, burn his wardrobe but don't bring your family. He has always been nice to her family. So why do they take that away from him or her family the chance to bond.
Which is why I said they need to show him bonding with her family and if R family blindly supports Khushi vis a vis Arnav, G family will support Arnav.
Do something on that and not this. Garima's face is still haunting me lol.
I am not bothered much about Arnav or Shyam cos their characters have been fairly consistent. My rant is about Khushi.
Will wait for your post, I know you will see things much more clearly and explain it better *hugs*
Shweths,
DeleteLast week Wed was Gopi vhau and Swami - toh aaj toh yeh honaa hi tha. Wed has become the dull day of the week these days Mon and Fri seem to be the most action packed with the occasional Tue :)
Btw saw a comment on the tagline - maybe the muh dikhaayi is the badla that Khushi takes :)
Shweths after ur post, I realised, i wanted to rant more...
ReplyDeleteWhy does every class divide have to be shown in such a stupid manner?
The only scenes that I could connect with were,
1) A calling Garima Aunty...
2)His discomfort when showered with attention...the scenes at the dining table were enuf...
Why exaggerate when the intention has already been conveyed in a few scenes....what was that about broken mirror...im i am not mistaken, lot of people who are superstitious don't keep a broken mirror ever....BTW what is Aman's role, is he A's Man Friday? I so want to see this elusive guy
How will it matter if A can look past all this...I can easily accept an ASR who will always be a little reserved with his in laws...thats his nature.....he is reserved with Payal too but in his own way is supportive..Are they planning to show A in a volte-face situation after this, starting with calling Garima Amma very soon...?
Rekha Ditto on 1 & 2 actually the full comment lol.
DeleteBroken mirror was bad. People say Arnav will die from the inside if Khushi leaves, I say He and his business will collapse if Aman leaves.
Iss Pyaar ko kya naam doon.
I liked Garima's glare at aunty-amma thing as if to say let him say what he is comfy with. And besides, she knows right how he feels about his mom, maybe if circumstances were different and the marriage had taken place in a happy environment, he might have considered calling her amma. Not now.
And he will call her Amma one day that is a given, and that will be an awwwwwwwww moment for sure.
@Rekha ,
DeleteMore rant from my side to. The only thing I found to be in character was ASR. I like Bauji and Garima to. But the dam cooler thing did get my nerves. And did ASR call Aman and what did he ask him to get ?? Towel and his handwash?? headesk*
Aarthi, atleast he didn't ask Guptas to get new ones or make a fuss, he is quietly asking and arranging for the stuff he needs, that is fine by me..for now..Dunno what the 5 star food drama or khushi getting insulted will be all about:(
DeleteShwets thank god for that they didn't make him do that infornt of G's or I would have gone to sets and kicked the CV's Lol.. hope atleast they go somewhere with this K's OTT.
DeleteAarthi, this 5 star thing is worrying me. The guy has to eat and if he thinks this is the food he will be served (and he did eat whatever he could mind you, lol)I don't blame him if he orders food for his survival. The only thing is he is an expert at saying the wrong thing, using the wrong words...Even if G Family understands hesitantly and he assures them somehow, he will take the fight to Khushi and taunt her and then what more OTT? More MU on her side or his, ughhhhhhhhh
DeleteShwetha call me Aaru, feels close and that's what Dia Sandy and Mads call me..
DeleteMe to shwetha i am worried of the same thing.. I really don’t mind him ordering food, but what is worrying me is that this should not include the G's let him order it at the office and settle it with K, and he has the right to do so. Because as u said it will only lead to more OTT from K side and I had enough of it, now it’s time for some serious introspection from both, and move the story to clear the MU not from comedy please but depth and intensity. CVs can we get that please!!!
Ouch ... fifteen minutes to go, and I am getting very apprehensive after all your comments already! OTT Khushi again??? *Head desk* WHAT will it take to convince the writers that OTT Khushi does NOT WORK?!!! TRP's have dropped again ... what on earth are the cv's doing to the show?!
ReplyDeleteDia I started all happy and now I am down...just like our TRPs.My fault I had too high expectations from this track and today being wednesday which means Track change day and kaput.
DeleteWatch and really looking forward to your post:) Maybe it is not that bad after all or even worse,lol.
Dia,
ReplyDeleteI wanted to so stop myself from ranting.....becos it doesn't help to see an epi with any pre-conceived notions but i was so unhappy that i cld not stop myself.
They so ruined the RV especially with the K dialogue of "apka haath chodein toh rangoli kharab ho jayegi" and her smile after that...just did not jell with the moment...How dare they do this with the sacrosanct RV? thats a space as sacred as the RM poolside?
Whose baser instincts are these guys pandering to? Haven't they realised that their show is more classy than that, why go so low? I am so hating what they are making Sanaya/BS do?
Rekha that haath chodo was her reminding him leaving her hand at office and her falling, now it is reverse na, I actually liked that till they showed that awkward shot of Barun squatting and kaput!!!
ReplyDeleteChalo girls I am off for tonite, wil catch up with you tomorrow:)
Shweths, I am fine with that...i realised it too...but in the midst of that scene, her awareness of A in the very next scene made no sense...Mostly RVs have been a case, where they have not chosen to be physically close, rather the circumstances have made it so...so the awareness seems real...
DeleteIn this case, they are already holding hands, she cracks that dialogue and after pulling, she realises, she is close and so there is a change in exp...sorry i did not buy that as a viewer!!
yeah.. at least he should have caught her around the waist or something.. for the rabba ve there to happen.. in fact, the scene did not change at all.. only the mood. i dont get why.
DeleteJaya / Rekha,
DeleteThat scene - the last time she held his hand with both her hands was at Holi - You complete me. Arnav was I guess wondering why this girl did not let him fall like he had earlier. Also he looked at her as if seeing her react to him - like in the past prior to Diwali - or ven post Diwali - with the tumhe koi faraq toh nahi padhta na..
Khushi was enjoying teasing him and it is always when she is having fun that her feelings for him seem to make thier presence felt in her. She is relaxed and has no wighing concerns and wham! when he is close, she feels something.
Arnav I think wondered at seeing this jhalli Khushi after a long time.
You know the best thing in that scene which struck me - when encountered with that massive rangoli with a few places to love through, Khushi nimbly rushed through even though she had things in both hands - how easily has she skipped through life's trials even when weighted down with the most burdensome of worries.
Arnav on the contarty is more cautious, takes a longer while to decide the best path and yet goes round in circles mid way perhaps because of his tendency to listen to what people around him say and take it into account.
Sandy, for once, even i could see that symbolism in that rangoli scene ( i only did not like the actual rangoli, rarely have i seen such a bad rangoli!)The way she skipped and the way he faltered..the contrast made for a pleasing view.
DeleteIts just the RV, per se that left me cold. I am now willing to look at it from the angle u mentioned above...tho...
Aha Sandy, loved the contrast of khushi and Arnav dealing with rangolis.
DeleteRekha: That was one big bad rangoli even I can make better and I suck at it,
RV was working for me till I saw Barun squatting and I actually cringed and LOLed at that split sec shot.
Shweths...
DeleteRangolis are diffi esp becos of the evenness of the spread of colour...I guess the guys doings it had very little time...first for the design and then spreading the color
Probably, they should've used the "kolam" instead of rangoli.....
Some neighbourhood south indian aunty would have obliged them and made a big "kolam" in a jiffy...and then the PH staff could have added the colour....hehehehe
yeh rangoli se nazar nahin hatthi
havent seen the epi yet..now i am not sure i want to!!!
ReplyDeletefrom what i have read looks like there werent many positives!!
oh well!!! guess i should just give it a miss and go back to studying for fridays test and write my dissertation!!!
will come back to read Dia's edit of course!!!she always makes it better!!
Anita,
Deletewish the best for ur exams!!
That Dia does:) Best of luck!
Deleteok now i am really depressed - after reading all this am debating if i should even bother to watch the episode - but i guess the addiction will not go just like that - so will get back once i have my own rant to add!
ReplyDeletemy twisted new philosophy - if expecting a good episode, always read the blog first - the disappointment is so clear that your expectations take a nose dive and then the episode does not seem so very bad!
ReplyDelete- so - rangoli (seriously? - that extensive a rangoli with no walking space!) - and you spend so much time creating a rather ugly rangoli and don't remove clothes hanging on the railing?? )SN - i would love to be the 'poor family' who has so much open space in Laxmi nagar in DElhi!)
- the rest was meh - ASR was trying to be polite - but i am sorry his sense of polite is def. not mine - he has absolutely no chivalry - he let the ladies pull the heavy table and did not even offer to help (when they were pulling the cooler - at least his expression was such that it seemed he wanted to intervene but did not know how!)
- felt really bad for Garima - and yes i agree with you all - that was completely ODG's fault - would have liked it better if ODB had used his brains and turned the tables on KKG and bonded with the gupta ladies despite KKG's teasing!
- broken mirror i can accept (actually a cracked one would have been enough) but broken into pieces and the pieces stuck on the wall - really?? - come on CV's give us a break
- final question - don't mind KKG bugging ASR (in the privacy of her chambers)and forcing him to meet her family friends but cant understand why she would do that knowing fully well that her husband is very capable of being downright rude - and that would be hurtful to her parents - unless she thinks that he has changed so much for her that he will bear it??? (unlikely!)
- don't think the CVs think things trough - why would KKG be willing to experiment with her husbands temper in presence of her family who could hurt easy? she goes out of her way to protect the Raizada family from facing ASR's ire but is willing to irritate ASR in front of her own? that too after all the pain they had to face due to her wedding?
- and i agree with Shwetha that ODG's agenda should have been - these people are kind caring individuals who are not effected by income - does not seem like KKG is doing so!
final verdict - am willing to give it another day - but CVs please don't play with our patience and we really are not so stupid!
Dia, somehow the epi becomes more bearable after ur post....i am the culprit here for the rant.....actually its more about not liking this portrayal of class differences, to me there are more subtle ways to do it...
ReplyDeleteThe mirror scene, i actually liked your comment on that, absolutely agree on that...
My question is more about Is Arnav going to appreciate the Guptas better after his stint in GH, or is he going to see poor people in a diff light?
Many rich people don't know how to behave around poorer people, sometimes its not about whether they are rich, its more about their sensibilities...has their education/life experiences taught them to be more humane around less fortunate people. else many end up just being patronising or crude!! Is arnav going to learn some lesson like that? Is it going to let him see beyond the obvious that we(ok I!!) see here?
On RV, while i remembered the last instance, the change in expressions seem forced from Khushi's end...I don't blame Sanaya at all...
On the RV, I agree ... I think Sanaya herself is confused, what is she supposed to portray?! The writers are messing up her character royally!
DeleteOn the rich vs poor people ... yes, sometimes rich people don't know how to behave, and they're also scared that they may come across as too patronising and offend their hosts ... but hasn't Arnav been through a rags-to-riches story himself? He and Anjali were thrown out of Sheesh Mahal, he started his business from scratch with a loan from Mami, she sold her jewels for him ... so they obviously haven't been rich all their lives. Or at least, they may have started as being rich, but they definitely went through a lean patch. And when people have been through such a traumatic time, they don't forget the tough times.
Dia, maybe that is why we are not hearing a peep of complaint from him, even though he is so far out of his comfort zone and should have blown his top a million times by now...
DeletePlus Arnav is a person who is used to eating alone and whatever is left tehre for him to eat. Guessing no one really goes out of their way to make things he would like at RM.
DeleteHere there are people fussing over him (and he does not like any fuss or PDA), giving him options about sweets and other things. So he is at a loss on how he should react plus I guess he is also mindful that he should not say anything to hurt their sentiments and does teh best thing he knows - get up and silently walk away!
Khushi had a chance to make her own impression on the RM folkes whereas Arnav's impression at GH has always/ mainly been through Khushi's eyes. They know of his anger and liking for comforts from all the horror tales she has told at home when she worked for him. So now it will be for them too to see how he behaves and reacts and I am lookign forward to Buaji cutting through the mask / fluff and getting to teh core like she did with teh nosy neighbours today.
I would not even mind her telling Arnav by teh end of his stay that she had been angry with him when he married Khushi the way he did but now that she has had a chance to see him she realizes that behind that gruff person, his heart is large and full of affection for his family and their loved ones.
Oh and when Garima blesses them saying Mya teh 2 of you be happy foreevrr- he said Thanks Aunty! - He stood through the aarti routine which he usually does only for his Di and he actually did not make a face when he got happy married life blessings - baby steps!!
Dia, Someone needs to take Sanaya in and explain where the track is headed So she can portray the emotions she excels in. Yesterday I saw the bandagement and the temple scene after marriage specifically pagpheray.
DeleteI looooooonged for that Khushi. The problem is they have messed up her character so much and we know from the actors that they are given the script barely a day in advance or on the set itself, the actors will not have the time to process.
Arnav's character has fairly been consistent with Khushi, the creators are themselves are not clear on her love or her realization and the confusion, the nuances from Khushi that we the overanalysts expect does not come and we are left confused.
This concentrating on one character at a time is NOT Working. This is a wonderful opportunity for them to work on both the characters and hope they don't mess it up.
A few cutes scenes but nothing major!!
ReplyDeleteASR’s discomfort was understandable…neighbors peeing in desperate for one look at the new damaad well shown… have always liked buaji so her scenes were adorable!!
Rangoli??really??all to welcome the guest of honour?? very OTT!And that food??
What I don’t get is…why is a man like ASR tolerating all this..in reality( I know its fiction and all!!but still) would any man put up with all that?
Whenever I see well established characters reach a new low..it makes me wonder if the makers forget basics about them! I have not seen all the episodes of the show (getting there slowly!!) but it isn’t the first time Arnav has used that class line right?? And it now occurs to the wife that its time to take revenge?? Only because they are married? And with food like that? Why make Khushi look worse? She and her antics are no longer amusing! (I really really liked her character!)
With ASR..he could ask for his toiletries.. was there any harm in buying a few things for the sasural?? and asking as an unmarried woman..would a girl’s family feel bad if the rich SIL pitches in and buys..say, an AC? Along with a few other things!!! Would it be interpreted as showing off? And bitiya, pati ke kaam ko itna interrupt karogi toh paise kahan se ayenge!!!
Things like broken mirrors don’t bother me anymore..especially when I am shown scenes where a successful businessman cant make his way through a rangoli and falls for his wife’s really silly antics!! (he actually turns around when she asks him!!! )
And was that a BD for Barun?? Guess he hasn’t gotten better yet!!
Sorry for the rant…couldn’t stop myself!! I kind of feel pretty strongly for this show and this is not what I want to watch!!
Will be missing till 27th!! Exams!!! Will try to come and read Dia’s edit!!
anita, all the best for your exams.
Delete"Things like broken mirrors don’t bother me anymore..especially when I am shown scenes where a successful businessman cant make his way through a rangoli and falls for his wife’s really silly antics!!"
very well said.. and that is why I'm so depressed with yesterdays episode..
and well, SonIL can buy stuff for the home, especially since there are no men in the house, earning.. even if there were, they would understand.. a raizada coming to GH will need some basic standards,, right?
Son in law can buy - but he didn't know till he came, what things were really like, right? He's never stayed there before, he's never even eaten a meal there, all he ever had was a cup of tea.
DeleteBut many families will not accept anything from their son inlaw ... akin to girls' parents not eating anything in their married daughter's house. And they did their best within their means - they got their cooler fixed for him, they put out soap, they cooked food according to what a sick person might need ...
Anita, all the best for your exams!
DeleteAnita, Jaya and Dia,
Deletei agree that the rich SIL can definitely but stuff for the poorer inlaws but in my mind this should happen after (or have happened before) his stay - they should not be made to feel small and their SIL buys stuff for his own stay - it would mean a lot more if he got the stuff for them - hope i am getting my point across - (SN ODB did not think of buying stuff for his wife when he married her in such haste - really doubt he will think of his inlaws!!)
Anita - Best of luck - hope your exams area breeze!
Anita,
DeleteAll teh best for the exams!!
Let me put it this way even if Arnav offers all in good intention, he will mess it up with words and Khushi will think he is insulting them. The same thing Akash would handle it more diplomatically.
DeleteI actually loved that he didn't even grumble to Khushi and only was muttering to himself, that was a real nice touch, dunno what will happen today but that felt good. He is getting his own stuff quietly and is not saying a word.
Khushi needs to start noticing that. If Nani and Anjali are helping Arnav to see the real Khushi it is time Bua and Amma do the same to Khushi and make her realize how nice Arnav is being even when he is not exactly comfy.
BTW, why is Bitwa not going to Office?Why is he staying back? That didn't make sense to me.
thank u for the wishes!!!
Deletewill come back to read all the posts tomorrow!!! mmuuuaaahhhhh
Wrote a long comment, and it went missing in cyber space :(
ReplyDeleteI read a post on Sushpective today, which made me think slightly differently about today's episode.
We had earlier discussed that this track would start Arnav's realization about the Guptas' financial circumstances, right? And also, directly and indirectly, Arnav is responsible for a lot of their troubles.
- Payal's first marriage, for which Shashi had taken a mortgage on his shop, broke because of Arnav-Khushi's first encounter. (If it hadn't, Shashi would have had more troubles because of dowry demands, but our ArHi story would not have been there, so let's forget that part).
- Goondas attacked Khushi because of the video footage released by Arnav, Shyam saved her ... so indirectly Arnav was the cause of Shyam meeting Khushi and the Guptas.
- Because of Arnav releasing the footage, Khushi and Payal moved to Delhi. Buaji's pension also stopped, she took Shyam as PG - because he had already met Shashi and Garima, because of that first encounter.
- Khushi Arnav accident, Rs 25k - Khushi needed a job to pay that back. Then the one lakh contract happened ... and she needed to work even more. Anjali forced her into working at RM using that one lakh clause - clause set in place by Arnav.
- Shashi babu lost his shop, moved to Delhi because of Shyam ... had stroke because of Shyam and so Khushi had to continue working.
- Forced marriage - Khushi stopped working (we don't know whether she was supporting her parents with the dabba and tuition money she was earning, as she apparently hasn't paid Arnav back his Rs 300) ... but if she isn't, Guptas are in even worse financial straits ... family has effectively no earning member. How are they even managing? So a broken mirror and damaged cooler are not on their priority list.
Has Arnav even started to realise how precarious their finances are? And is that the purpose of this track? And ultimately, the realization that he is responsible for at least some of their problems.
So the broken mirror and damaged cooler did not bother me so much ... but it should have bothered Arnav more than just his irritation at being out of his comfort zone. More a realization of how badly off the Guptas are ... and how they are still trying their best.
If only Khushi would stop her food antics, and let that realization dawn, but then she has brought him to GH for a purpose - to rub their low class habits down his throat. Though how boiled food would do that, Idk ... better to let events take their natural course ... like the nosy neighbors coming in for a reverse 'munh dikhayi' - now that I will like - let Arnav (and every man) see how humiliating it is for a new bride to be paraded in front of her husband's family and friends for approval!
As for the boiled food ... well, Khushi was being irritating, but she made sure he got food, and lots of it ... it was up to him to eat it and not starve. He's a diabetic, more than anyone else he should know the importance of regular meals. I would prefer that he trumped her by eating quietly, and then got back at her, and her alone, by ordering food, and asking her to pay - knowing Khushi, she would not want to involve her family in that anyway. Somewhat similar to the way he got back at her by telling her he was faking the fainting ...
But why is she playing it this way, exposing her family to the very real danger of Arnav losing his temper and humiliating her family? Does she realize he won't do that? Or has she just not thought it through?
Or more likely, have the writers not thought Khushi's character through ... again?! *head desk*
exactly what i thought! what KKG should be doing is showing off how kind and loving her family is irrespective of their financial status - NOT opening up real venues for ASR to loose his cool and insult her parents (what i wrote earlier)
Delete-And ODB should be realizing that they are facing difficulties and should plan how to help them without coming as condescending (like when he paid the hospital bills!)
And finally Dia, "I would prefer that he trumped her by eating quietly, and then got back at her, and her alone"
- this is exactly what i meant when i said i would have liked if ODB had turned the tables on ODG and joined in with the Gupta ladies
Dia,
DeleteDo you recall how unreasonable Arnav was when she was on that 15 day contract with him - he was so irritated with her presence in hi slife but today we do not see that from him. He is after the B&B story and the low sugar incident somewhere made his peace and reconciled himself - now if she just kept to her normal antics he will just live for 6 months and send her away - like u said earlier do nothing. But Arnav needs to do something - many things actually so Khushi cannot be the silent type.
As for Khushi we all agreed that she is fed up. Conflicting emotions, words and gestures have thoroughly confused her. On one hand is this guy she was attracted to who is hell bent on stomping her life into shreds and on the other the guy whom she wants to forget and put mud over but who refuses to let go of her. Fighting these 2, somewhere Khushi has forgotten to thin kabout what it is she wants really. She just wants out from all this stress and tension - doe not even indulge in ber and chana these days to bust that tension. So like Arnav who was hell bent on breaking Khushi's will in those 15 days - Khushi is now going all out to break his so she can get out from this stressful situation - how the families will be affected, her jiji nothing matters because his tolerance will break down and he would have forfeited the contract. She has even forgotten to see the family's discpomfiture so single minded is she.
Her surprise will come I think when despite all she does, Arnav quietly puts up with it all - he know going to GH was her idea thnx to Nani, he knows eating boiled food was her idea thnx to Garima. So if he loses it at her and she accuses him of being pricey he will give it right back saying she was unneccessarily making it difficult on her family by misleading them when they were doing so much as it is.
GH is where Khushi held dreams for Arnav - when she was physically attracted to him. Here without the creep's constant advances and with teh confidence and freedom fo being at hom chances are that real Khushi who has been stamped dowm into oblivion may begin to breathe again. And by the time she returns to RM, it is with a heoghtened awareness of what his proximity does to her as well as another thought on what could be the reason for this marriage that Arnav bears so much so stoically - he has ruined her life (and also recalls that he has tied himself to her too tho unwillingly) but is mindful of every other relationship? - why this choice of personal heel for the 2 of them?
Arnav being aware fo the G's financial straits will begin to happen during his stay. He has always solved their problems. He only knows Payal mentioning there was a reason to come to Delhi and that Khushi wporked for money but he never thought of how strapped they could be. They were non-affluent class so they needed money - Period!
He is there very unwillingly because Khushi has engineered this. With that in mind, evry strong grievance like no AC, no handwash is all exaggerated in his mind. I have seen normal people behave like that when travelling too. SIL buying something wil actually be taken as a big negative because teh G family will feel that they have been unable to take care of him and he is ashamed of them.
This week is about setting up - for times to come. There are many things lying open awaiting discovery.
But reading all your comments on what all Arnav has directly or indirectly done to affect G family - one of the things they will do is make Arnav realize just how much of his destiny he has written like he proudly acclaims! Actually every happiness and hurt he has received in the past few months is a result of his actions of course guided by DM but his choices nonetheless. This is needed because he needs to think of how Anji had initially spoken of his actions having consequences, about how he tends to lose reason when angry resulting in brash decisions that hurt and his tendency to somehow spoil things before he goes about setting them right - even today Khushi's first thot on that rangoli was u will spoil it.
DeleteThey are again leaving a lot of innuendos over teh past few epis. For some reason after watching last night the first thing taht came to my mind was the B&B Disney song - ....still the same yet changed....
And can I say I was very very glad that the soap got back to TF unharmed. Without it the story would have stagnated. He will do something and Arnav will be forced to wake from slumber and react and also counter attack..so yippee!!!
As I mentioned in Redux thread yesterday, RM's vaastu has a problem when it comes to Romance between Arhi, let us see what Gupta's vaastu with half size bed and no recliner does*wink*
DeleteDia: This track has to be about Arnav finding out that he is mostly responsible for the mess starting from Lucknow. I want him to go in a thoughtful mood and realizing that Shyam might just have manipulated him and the Guptas. As for Khushi, even if Guptas were duped, he has no way of confirming if Khushi has feelings for Shyam and that can be cleared only if Khushi is back in RM and seeing her interaction with Shyam.
Similarly Khusi has to realize that all the class dialogues are solely for her, he is a complex man whose words and actions keep contradicting themselves.
If post marriage we saw Arnav falling all over in love with khushi, then this has to be the beginning of the journey of Khushi falling in love with Arnav too.
Rekha: When they get it right, it is brilliant. It has lots of metaphors, symbolisms, connections with the past, hints of the future and what not. The only problem is they are not consistent and hence the confusion.
Till Diwali they were in top form so we could decode most of it, but they have been so inconsistent of late that it is getting tough.
I agree with a lot of what you said about Khushi, Sandy ... and judging from Garima's glares, am hoping Khushi won't get away with her behaviour towards Arnav for too long. Like we said, as Nani and Anjali rein in Arnav at RM, Garima and Buaji will do the same at GH to Khushi. Khushi really doesn't need to do anything extra - the very obvious difference between the lifestyles is enough to make Arnav uncomfortable. And as Shweths said, Khushi needs to realize that his class dialogues are only for her - he treats her family with respect. She needs to start ignoring his words and judging him only by his actions - well, mostly!
DeleteLots of realization on both Arnav and Khushi's ends can happen, if they do it properly, and don't make the comedy OTT - tough, because good comedy is actually the toughest thing to both write and enact - it tends to get slapstick and stupid very quickly.
And *SHIDDAT SHIDDAT SHIDDAT* at the end of this stay, Arnav HAS to realize that Shyam was the mysterious PG, that he duped the entire family, and if we're lucky, that Khushi was more or less forced into her engagement against her will. At least he has to start suspecting Shyam, so that when they go back to RM, he can keep a closer watch on him.
on second watch, the episode does not look that bad..
ReplyDeleteshe got him dancing to her tune.. he was served sookhe roti and boiled veggies.. and the rest were going to make poori bhaji for breakfast! it was hilarious how she scarpered off at his glare..
it was so good of him not to say anything bad or blow his top..
and CCKKP VM today, just cos i liked it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRSXXeHO7gY
DeleteGirls,
ReplyDeleteYes, I do submit after reading comments that the epi was not bad at all.
But I do have one question...is this serial so esoteric that common persons, will not understand it in first watch?
When A accepts Garima's blessings with "Thanks, Aunty", i did do a double take wondering why A said that, when he could have just nodded..K's immediate retort made me think...was it for the purpose of riling A. When it was repeated, I went back to thinking that probably, A was thanking Garima as a subconscious acceptance of A_K relationship. That's why connected with that scene.
Similarly, I really wondered at the "pyaasa kua" dialogue..quite a misfit in the scheme of things...hardly the thing, one would say to a SIL, (indian sensibilities). Today, when i read a post, it talked of truth emerging..Yes, it does make sense....but the placement of that scene will normally not lead to that line of thinking. CVs are using comical scenes and hoping for the deeper meaning to emerge.
At first watch, i am not able to assimilate it all....probably my disappointment with K's characterisation is clouding my vision. I was re-reading Gul Khan's interview, it talks of A's repentance for hurting K.Don't u guys get the feeling that vision is getting diluted with all this tom foolery.
Somehow, I get the feeling that K's fightback in this fashion was never part of Gul's vision. It has been introduced as a measure to buy time (IPL-TRP war). I may be wrong and i am always willing to look at other views to help me understand this better
honestly.. does not arnav know better than to call her aunty? he has mama mami, etc, never seen him call anyone aunty.. and the way he suffered through the aarti, (remember the glare he gave the pandit after the bandage engagement?) I expected him to keep quiet.. so now that he called her auntie and K asked him to call her amma, will some future reason come to make him call her amma? is that why he said aunty again..? (waise khushi dint even let him have prasad.. natkhati)
DeleteI did not like the way they cut off the formalities scene.. there should have been a Shashi-khushi hug and a greet exchange between the guys.. one feet touching or something.. the whole thing looked rushed. maybe in an effort to rush to the clearing of the MU?
I watched IPK June 8th epi again today after comments above on the indirect role Arnav had played in getting Shyam in her life...
ReplyDeleteInterestingly, there is a scene that caught my attention...that of Sheesh Mahal being bought in Anjali's name...Could there be any connection herein...(Mr Roy and property papers, was Shyam named a co-owner earlier and now changed? Altho how will that help Shyam now, i have little idea but something tells me that sentimental connection with sheesh mahal has to do with it) The spoilers (not sure of its source) of some loss in a fin transaction may be linked to this??
Main kitna bhi rant karoon....I will not stop loving this ARHI story....Iss Junoon ko kya naam doon?
Rekha,
DeletePast ka toh naam hi mat lo - hums ab ne itne saare scenariops churn maare hain ki kya kahen - but u know is still put it down to this. they thot till the wedding then the main director changes, spa happened, Ph had a new show to shoot and promte and they had to contend with channel putting in 6months (not sure if it was an indication that viewers things will go slow) -thye had built up a huge momentum by then and then it all vanished and now is not coming back.
also somewhere they needed to sit down and figure out what they were going to do aftre the 2 got married and they failed to do that guess now that their new show is settled they r back to the drawing board here and seriously they need to realize that this is the 2nd time mindless comedy has driven TRPs to this dismal extent - comic timing and hilarity are different from what they try to show - somehow i feel the stupid channel is also interfering what other PH yelled st SP that IPK got lot of bhaav at SPA so this was someones big idea about evening the playground?
Agree with Shweths, when they get it right there are so many layers to teh story it leaves you spellbound. But then they keep mucking around. Tue and Wed had a lot of subtle stuff they threw at us - mainly dialogues and put together it makes u think on teh various possibilities.
I like Shweths's idea about Khushi falling in love with Arnav again. And I swear I wamt some of that stuff I wrote about on 17th in terms of people interaction at GH to happen and if they muck it up eesh I will be very tempted to go kcik the CV team like aaru said.
Sandy two makes better !! and with Shewtha's Big R&R Dandaa!!!
DeleteI know, there are so many layers and so much to play with, this dragging is killing the show big time!
DeleteI am worried about the writer after his last interview - he was the one who earlier said that comedy worked, so they were giving us comedy - that was around NYE time. They realized their mistake, got back to the love story, intensity and seriousness, and TRP's soared ...
Now this writer says again that his heroine is 'weird' (I can't forgive him for that one!), Gul has a vision for Arnav (but what about Khushi?) and he himself doesn't believe in love. What does that mean for the show? I also have a feeling again from his interview, that the different visions are clashing ... writer, producer, channel ...
Good thing is that TRP's are plummeting ... ok, they can blame some of that on IPL, but not all - if IPK maintains its relative position vis-a-vis other shows, even with lower TRP's, fine, but if it doesn't then they are in trouble for sure. Yes, 8 pm is prime IPL time - they even have a lot of excuses for dropping TRP's, but at the end of the day, TRP's rule. And if other 8 pm shows maintain their TRP's, then that excuse is shot to pieces.
If you're going to kick the cv's, I will join! :)))
me too! morcha shuru!
DeleteLet us all wear spike heels when we kick them.
DeleteDia: I wanted to hang him upside down when he said Khushi was weird. He came across as a total MCP who had no respect for Khushi or Gul. I don't know Gul and as much as I am mad for concentrating too much on Arnav, Arnav and Khushi at the end of the day are her creations, and as a creator/writer, one should never disrespect another person's creation in public. Private may jitnay bhi comments maaray who cares, to the outside world you must put up a united front and pretend that all of you are on same page.
Grrrrrrrr...I dont even know why they are sticking with the writer who does not believe in his own characters, Fire him, get a new one and before that person starts writing make him watch the show to understand the characters.
Isn't it unfortunate that the audience remembers every nunace of the charactrs and the creators do not:(