Friday, August 24, 2012

24/8 - Epi 327 ... Treachery From Within

 Friday 24th August

Treachery from within ... so Dadi had been sent by Shyam after all ... not anonymously, but with pretty little lies and smooth talking ... something Shyam is so good at. No wonder Dadi is so dead set against Khushi ... It was all a big misunderstanding ... how exactly did Shyam manage to convince Dadi that his getting engaged to Khushi was a misunderstanding? Of course - he didn't ... he repeated the same story he told Anjali .. Khushi tried to trap him first, failed, and then trapped Arnav in her web ...
Dadi is a pretty stupid woman, I must say ... believing her unknown damaadji over her own grandson and her childhood best friend. Seems to run in the family ... her granddaughter is the world's most gullible, brainless fool. And Anjali continues to dig her own grave deeper and deeper, lying to more and more people at every step ... NK joins the list today ...
And Shyam is just using Dadi, waiting for the big day. Now what is he up to?
And why the heck does Dadi want Shyam back in the house ... if she's so convinced of his innocence, she should tell Anjali to stop staying in her maayka and go off with her husband to her own sasural ... why is Anjali continuing to sponge off her brother like a parasite?  Itna hi pyaar hai toh go live with your KP ... and his empty pockets!
The treacherous trio ... a gullible duo entrapped firmly in the net of the smooth-talking silver-tongued snake ... plotting to break an alliance which was ordained by Devi Maiyya herself ... will Shyam succeed?

I do feel his plans will all come to nothing :) Seeing as he is up against Arnav, Khushi and Devi Maiyya all firmly allied together ... Devi Maiyya even gets Mother Nature to do her bidding ... so trains to Lucknow are all cancelled, and there is no escape for Garima. Much to Khushi and Buaji's delight and Garima's worry ...another set of family secrets here, another set of lies, but here for a different reason, for an unselfish cause, a mother worrying that her own mistakes might darken the future of both her her adopted daughters ... neither one her own child, but both as dear to her as her own.

Cute conversation between Khushi and Payal, devrani-jethani :) ... as one set of siblings drifts apart, another set bonds even more closely, and Devi Maiyya's army gets aligned into position.
Khushi did tell Payal about SG leaving ... but didn't actually get round to telling her their plan got cancelled. And Khushi consoles Garima about her cancelled trip ... telling her that Devi Maiyya is asking Garima to stay. 

And the main bond gets stronger and stronger ... love, trust, understanding, being there for each other ... Khushi gets ready to do something for Arnav, calls him to meet her, an order issued 'haq se' ... and reinforced almost immediately with a more hesitant request ... 'you will come, won't you?' :) ... not fully sure of her position yet, not completely ... but getting there ...
Of course he will ...he loses no time to reassure her of her status in his life ... right up there on top with his Di ...
Another set of sibling bonds strengthening, this one with the ever-faithful NK ... more power to the DM army ...

Di is going to tumble from that pedestal ... hopefully pretty soon ;) ... her lies are piling up and digging at the foundation of that pedestal ...
And hopefully soon Khushi will be the sole Queen of his life. And when the betrayal comes from the person he loved the most almost all his life, he's going to need Khushi to help pick up the pieces ...

Precap ... Deadly Duo in Black ... :"> Arnav took pains to settle into her world, now Khushi reaching out to share his world ... :) An Equal Music
And we'd better get a nice date on Monday, with soft music, dancing, romance ... and the conniving Sniper Couple frantically trying to stay out of sight of the lovebirds ... let their date be blown to smithereens, while our gorgeous pair romance :)

151 comments:

  1. I think dadi Shyam and Anjali should move in together... It'll solve everyone's issues

    An Buaji should stop saying Arnav will do anything for Khushi... She's gonna lagao nazar...lol

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    1. Gargi, same thought crossed my mind.....if Dadi wants Shyam with Anji let her send them to Shyam's house....why jamao kabza on ASR's house

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    2. soo true!!! With ASR's money, he can probably afford them a posh 2 BHK villa with swimming pool etc somewhere in the outskirts of delhi.. they can live there araam se..and let the rest of the Raizadas live in peace..

      so Anjai and Shyam Jha and Mr and Mrs ASR keep cordial relations with each other, but live apart.. only to meet up and catch up once a while on imp festive occasions..

      *ah..MY dream ending to IPK*

      now THAT would be, truly, nayi soch!!! :D

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    3. No Mads, ASR shudnt pay for their house....let Shyam fund it on his own, as it is, he has looted them more then enuf....

      Let Shyam pay for Anji's designer sarees and cater to her non-stop mandirism.....and Dadi's special lifestyle, where she drinks Milk with two spoon full of Saffron.....

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  2. OH MY GOD- the precap!!!

    THEYRE LOOKING SOOOO GOOD!!! Khushi in black!! Hahahaha they looked fab... Very Mr. And Mrs. ASR!!:-)

    I'm happy:-)

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    1. both are looking fab......and Khushi is looking mind blowing

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    2. Definitely Khushi looks gorgeous esp with that eye makeup. It was my secret shiddat to see khushi in black.

      and ASR ke kya kehne... mast!!! (hindi wala;) )

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  3. Can I do a gloatwa way, i knew Shyam was instrumental in Dadi coming to RM....

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  4. Precap mein Mr and Mrs ASR ko dekhkar aur kisse dekhna accha hi nahi lagta ...

    tere chechre se nazar nahin hathi nazaare hum kya dekhe....

    esp nazaron mein DASHALI ho!! (trio term borrowed from LU of IF..couldn't stop laughing when i saw it)
    now the common cheat is lying every single day and every single hour....poor ASR is going to be heartbroken....

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  5. can I actually say that I hate anji more than dadi??? ok, don't throw chappals at me, but when dadi said "hum sirf aapki aur arnav ki khushi chahte hain", I have a faint hope that once she knows of the truth, she will support arnav?? :S coz now it looks as if shyam has filled her ears just like he did anji's... and dadi actually doesn't know ONE SINGLE thing.. she was not here during anji's wedding, neither was she here when khushi used to hang around..or she is smart enough to spot loopholes (to give her that credit).. hence its obvious she will believe the truth the way she hears.. so can we hope she switches sides??? or is it hoping for too much.. in arnav's words, even after knowing the truth, she will side with shyam - "dadi wohi dekhti hain jo woh dekhna chahti hain"

    the rest of the stuff makes me feel at peace...now that dadi is with anji, she will make sure chotey isn't around anji too much when anji wants to be left alone...and that indirectly means he can spend much much more time with his wifey, rather than running around after di all the time..

    abhaas/shyam...I hope the long vanvaas has an effect on your brain and you have actually planned something better this time..actually loved shyam (I don't know if it is the right emotion or not .. :P but he is deffo one intelligent villian I know.. :P) when he was like "dadi, if you think that a stupid god-bharai rasam is gonna convince everyone that they need me the you are sooo wrong..I will use you as and when I need it" brilliant acting by abhaas there! In the first scene, all apprehensive in front of dadi..and then all malicious..

    its strange, but even after DB is sporting that baby bump..I CANNOT bring myself to sympathize with her...even she is beyond redemtion in my opinion now!!

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    1. contd..

      awwwww and khushi calling up arnav and telling him to meet her in exactly 2 hrs..with sooo much haq!!! and then calling up again and confirming that he is coming!! you simply gotta LOVE this girl!!! :)))

      I loved how they are showing her trying to live life his way..if he can adjust for her...she can try and be Mrs ASR and lead the life that he leads...just to please him.. :)))) can't wait for monday!!

      but damn you CVs..you could have atleast shown her in that red saree he gifted her?? Would have made it even more special!! :) never mind, I wasn't expecting her to plan anything at all..instead she has planned something really, really grand.. Arnav's gonna fall in love all over again..

      DARE YOU cut down ArHi scenes on monday, CVs!!! I want the entire, complete date, with ArHi talking AND arnav dropping khushi home...and/or they going to a long, late night drive.. :))))

      warna DANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

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    2. STRONG SHIDDAT TO THAT GIRLS....All of u living closer to sets in Mumbai...halla bol do agar scenes mein kataothi hui tho.....

      As it is not happy that sniper couple are in close vicinity.....let the bloody snake slink away....but don't dare spoil the ARHI moments....

      I have seen the precap scene online almost 5 times now...

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    3. Rekhs and Sama...to bring in some positivity, precap showed that shyam saw ArHi moving OUT of the hotel...meaning, uptil that time, the two couples are completely oblivious of each other.. so probably we CAN hope.. and obviously Mr and Mrs Snake Jha wouldn't want Mr and Mrs ASR to see them, so they will have sneak out or whatever.. so its THEIR date that is spoilt, not ous ODC's!! *muahahahhahahhahahah* :D :D

      AND.. Arnav had quite a smirk on his face when he left.. wonder what ODG did.. :))) hmmm..

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    4. Yes Madsie....Arnav always has a smirk on his face these days when his Khushi is with him....so i will not up my hopes....but would love to be pleasantly surprised....am going to the SKD (sapnon ki duniya) as the Spice Girls Hangout would say.....

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    5. Mads

      Thanks for the mini update. Won't be able to see the epi tonight....

      You guys have raised my hopes for the minday epi. Fingers crossed.... ***SHIDDAT**** adding full power to ur shiddat.

      I am glad I haven't seen the precap in a way. At least weekend nikal jayega. Anticipation is worst when ine has seen snippets....

      I promise I will not rant about Anji for at least today and the weekend.... (wouldn't see the epi toe rant karne ka sawaal hi nahi he he he).

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    6. Mads, to add to ur comment where Dadi said that she wants Anji and Arnav's khushi....can we take it as a symbolism that when she knows the truth she will side with Arnav.....

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  6. Precap ..... *THUD* Only Mr. &Mrs. ASR!!!

    Dadi said "mujhe sirf Arnav aur aapki khushi chahiye and she has no idea about what the history is. She just know Arnav misunderstood Shyaam. Past kicked in and she believed it. I know this is not gonna happen soon but I hope cvs don't make Shyaam another villain in telly who always escapes to victory no matter what.
    ASR kisi kaam ka nahi. Biwi date par lejarahi hai ....yeh din agaye hain!! Haire Nandkishore!!!!

    Cvs you took 2.5 days to show a very obvious shyaam-dadi-anjali eaquation and finished rokha in 0.5 epi .... Aap ka kuch nahi hosakta. Jab tak dekhna hai dekhenge!!!

    Loved devrani jhetani convo ... Muaaahh

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    1. Sama - Cvs you took 2.5 days to show a very obvious shyaam-dadi-anjali eaquation and finished rokha in 0.5 epi .... Aap ka kuch nahi hosakta. Jab tak dekhna hai dekhenge!!!

      I swear, yaar!!! They are RIDICULOUS!!! anyhow, let's enjoy it till we get..and hope, that uptil now...atleast some part of the stuff is making us happy..

      for now, look forward to monday..

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    2. On a side note - so she believed shyam's story about how all of this was a huge MU...has shyam told her all about khushi too?? hence, her cold behaviour towards khushi?? now that's understandable.. so she believed shyam, she believed that khushi staged up the whole thing for whatever reasons.. or MUed shyam's intentions..and arnav believed khushi over shyam.. and that's why arnav is MU-ing shyam.. can explain her anger towards khushi now..

      and when she is trying to draw parallels from the past, it COULD mean the following -

      1. Sr Mallik was lusting after/attracted to other woman and she caught him but due to her "ladke toh kuch bhi kehte hain/karte hain" attitude, she blames the "other woman"...other woman being, Garima..and swears her to lie and say that the whole thing was her idea...she complies and is forced to leave for the reputation of the Malliks

      2. Sr. Mallik actually loved only and only his wife..and garima was probably just working for him and grossly MU-ed by arnav, hence dadi was right in siding with Sr. Mallik then..being a 14 yr old, he created quite a ruckus abt it, since he didn't know how to react..and again, garima was forced to lie and leave the society for the reputation of Malliks..

      somehow garima comes face to face with Malliks on Anji's wedding day, causing anji's mother to commit suicide (I have no qualms in imagining that now, after looking at how anji has turned out).. she could be that weak, after all.. and dadi was prob right in saying she didn't own up to her responsiblities..

      in both the cases, Arnav would hold his dad responsible for creating a rift in the household.. but if it was the first case, then arnav was right in saying "main tab bhi sahi tha aur aaj bhi sahi hoon" , if its the second case, he is not..

      in all seriousness, if they have indeed brought up the subject of the past, then they might as well show arnav MU-ing his dad, leading to him making an internal peace with himself.. absolving garima of the mistake she never committed and putting a rest to the past..

      the first case will only reiterate how pathetic ASR's dad was..and will not really solve any problem..

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    3. Sama, how I agree with you......the director is an Idiot....important scenes during the Roka were shown from a far of angle......and Shyam, Anjali and DAdi were given full closeups.....

      Dia, i hope the word Idiot is allowed here, cause i seriously want to call him taht

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    4. Sama

      Think payash weddibg lasted nearly 1.5 minths ASR and K wedding toe lag raha hai 3 weeks mein hi ho jayega.... :(

      I guess as ling as they give us good episode of the wedding and specially Arhi bonding closer together, talking to each not necessarily about serious stuff just aye veyi.... Show some bromance and sismance (aisa koi term hota hai kya?) me happy.

      Don't wanna see much of dadi unless she has somethung more to add to the story other than passing snide remarks abt K and G family...

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  7. the work on sleeves is the same kind but what a diff the colour has made to that outfit..
    was thinking of a nice chikankari suit in that colour....San will carry it off so well

    San is looking ethereal.....

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    1. I know, right! Also, I like that the sleeves are not of elbow length, unlike the last suit. That was the most disturbing part since it made Sanaya's arms look weird.

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  8. looks like i didn't miss much except the last 5 mins and the precap..
    so what all that about.. have to read the LU yet. so any to update me on last five mins pls...

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    1. Aaru.....u missed the last 5 mins....baby sab kuch tho us five mins mein hi tha....

      Last 5 mins

      Khushi sitting on her desk counting money and is surprised at the amount of money she has
      Rings ASR and in a businesslike tone, commands him to meet her at a hotel in 2 hrs time.....and then reconfirms with him whether he will come.....
      ASR gets busy choosing clothes for the occasion when NK walks in asking him if its a date, to which ASR says yes and when N asks him "who with?" he says "khushi ofc" ...cute bromance with NK follows
      Anj is planning a "hot date" with her VLR at Purple Orchid, the same restaurant, that Khushi is to meet Arnav
      ASR gets ready to leave and sees Anj all doled up and offers to drop her...and tho Anji makes an excuse, Arnav insists on dropping her...when DD interrupts and says she is not going alone......end of epi

      Precap- Sniper couple at restaurant, VLR gifts some trinket to TQ and since she drops it, VLR bends and sees ARHI moving away from their table.....MR AND MRS ASR looking FAB.....


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    2. Rekha

      Hugs.... Fab update on the last 5 mins. I can almost imagine scene going by ur update.

      Btw what is LU?

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    3. UJ, live update....that come on IF in some threads...enables those that can't watch the epi to get an idea of the "proceedings" there are times i also log in becos i find the comments maha funny, funnier than the epi at any rate....

      like u, the epi airs for me much later here

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    4. Rekhs thanks bey !! had guest tapkofied in last half.. at last am in peace with the weekend with arhi in precap.. man or i would tearing my hair with the sniper couple (SC) with a added dose of DD...

      will arhi encounter SC or DD ?? I bet is on they might spot DD and will garima will escape with another route to the camp or she will face DD at the goodh bharai ?? why do I feel that it has to come out in open here ? or more so may be after marriage feels more like it...
      Since DD has MU khushi with shyam getting her back .. I feel khushi needs to prove herself after she is Mrs ASR..
      And this time again she will be hurt saving Anji.. that's when the whole truth of Shyam will be out .. and DD will join the gang of RM to beleive or not to believe ...

      UJ
      LU is live update of the episode

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    5. Aaeu I dont care who is on whose side after the whole truth about shyam is out as long as ArHi are on it together AND khuahi doesn't have to sacrifice her happiness YET again!!!

      please stop her making the typical SP bahu with the sacrificing for the ever selfish daughter of the family ... it would irk me beyond measure..

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    6. I meant, aaru.. I hate it when names are spelt wrong.. :P

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    7. and I also meant *khushi .. :P DAMN, what is wrong with my typing today?! :P

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    8. madsie exactly my thoughts, i don't mind even the world is against khushi as long as Arhi are together and fight it out.

      I so don't want Khushi being the sacrificing bahu and I so want Bitwa to feel hurt that for whom he almost ruined a girls life doesn't trust him ..
      I so want it to be breaking of Arnav trust with his Di, not for anything else but for him to understand that sometime bonds of heart are stronger than bonds of blood

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    9. same here madsie.....i hope all the illusions shatter once and for all......

      as u said...i just want ARHI together...don't care what they are up against on the other side....

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  9. btw girls...black isn't really khush's colour.. but probably they are trying to show here that arnav wears colourful shirt for khushi and khushi, in turn, tries out clack for him.. :))) awwww.. :)))

    love them!!! :)

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    1. *sorry I meant, black.. :P

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    2. sweetie....didn't think of it that way until u wrote it.....but u r right.....thats the reason they had the cute scene with ASR and NK!!

      AWwwwwww

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    3. yeah Mads, really dint think of it that way, was thinking waht symbolism r dey protraying with his closet full of black...
      heheheh

      but that is awesome.......

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  10. My hubby just typed it and he wrote this serial cos he does not know the name of this serial:

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    Arnav can marry KKG immediately and this will bring this saga to a quick closure. However we can continue with the serial once they have children and also Shyam's children are borne. The story can then start from the school itself and proceed for the next 12 years.

    *********

    My comments, I am still typing it out, till then enjoy!

    Oh did I mention he wants to write and direct a movie one day.

    He also just found out, anyone can post here so keep a look out for his posts.

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    1. A leap.hahahaha...good idea, had this been an Ekta serial, something like that wud have defo happened

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    2. Wow Shweths.....Tamil or Hindi?




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    3. Geetu, he has never watched an Ekta serial, I think he is just fed up of my being hooked on to the show and hogging the net.

      Rekhs: I am guessing Hindi, he used to write plays in college which were a huge hit. I think he will get back to it someday. let us see kya hota hai.

      Will catch up with the posts tomorrow everyone, Hayeeeeeee, khushi got a new dress and haircut did not happen, WT?

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    4. Shwetha,
      I find this really sweet that he actually typed something here.
      Why don't you join him in writing the movie? You could come up with a hit romantic comedy!
      Best of luck! and *hugs*

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  11. waise girls, did anybody spot the HUGE blooper in today's epi?? was watching it online right now when I caught it..gosh, Cvs how kanjoos can you get with your editing!!!!

    http://www.upbulk.com/media/video.php?id=1107700

    in this video, start looking carefull after 5:28..at 5:30, keep pasuing after ever split second...and in one frame you will see a slit second shot of khushi marching in ASR's office.. this was I think during the time she came up in the office and he challenged her to work for him for 24 hrs.. its the same red dress!!! :O

    gosh.. this is THE LIMIT!!! :O

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    1. Ya saw that first time round only ... Really sad but it. Daily it's really hard for the editors

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    2. oh so it was all over - i thought maybe the video link i am watch had an error - did not know the PH had posted this episode on national tv!

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    3. Mads, I saw it too.
      Didn't get the actual shot.It was a split second.
      Got an eerie feeling- like a hiccough or something.
      How is it POSSIBLE for such an old shot to come now? Does that mean it was inserted as a clue? I wonder what the ladies at redux are picking up from this.

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    4. Su, I take it simply as an editing error and nothing else.. :P they wanted to show AR designs from outside and I can bet if we go back to the epi where khushi comes running up to tell off arnav for paying GH rent, we will see the same shot of AR designs from outside.. :)

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  12. Precap

    Awwwww, didn't they look adorable?

    For the Romance audience - we know we will have some beautiful Arnav Khushi

    scenes, Will the same waiter come?

    For the Drama audience - there is a possibility of Shyam being caught by Arnav.

    Perfect Precap, wouldn't you agree?

    ASR's favorite color has been black as was reminded by NK. Did Khushi wore black for

    the same reason?

    Or

    She brought colour and brightness to his dark, black life. Now she is wearing black, will

    he be able to do the same? Hint for the future track

    or

    Khushi just got a fantastic dress

    Arnav - NK

    Second time in a row we see Arnav rummaging through his cupboard to show off his slightly improved and updated wardrobe. We got that IPK Team just as we noticed his new shows.

    Ab aap logon ki full kripa Khushi par kab hogi.

    Okay what was the tensed BG music in the beginning in the Arnav-NK scene. Is it to show that a fashion house owner has such limited wardrobe. We KNOWWWWW!

    And it improved slightly, frankly it fell a bit flat for me....looked very hurried.

    AND

    Bromance also includes AKASH. Next time include him too, don't you guys know Bromance is a track that has always been super duper hit with the audience.

    Khushi-jiji

    Love them can we have more.

    Shyam-Dadi

    Shyam's Dialogue: He will Use Dadi for the big dhamaakaa.

    The question is who is using who?

    Shyam tells a Kahaani to Dadi. Dadi tells her own kahaani to Shyam.

    Both are playing each other, question is who will win?

    Is Dadi suspecting Shyam from the beginning or will she realize her mistake and Use him to Expose him?

    Ooooooh, This just got interesting as Dadi said, I am here only for your and Arnav's happiness.


    Quick Pointers:

    Does RM look like a Shaadi ka ghar and I DO not mean Recycled decorations, where is the excitement in the family that Arnav is getting married?

    Where are the emotional moments shared by the elders on Arnav and Khushi getting married, I am seeing it in Gupta House. Why not in Nani, Mami, Akash?

    Bring these small family moments writers, they will be much appreciated.

    MIA Mama...atleast can you get Rajeshji for 3 hours and shoot a phone call scene with him. Even if we can't get a Arnav-Mama phone convo, Can Mama atleast call Akash/Mami/Nani and express his happiness that this marriage is happening, wish his sister was there to watch it, how happy he is and he will be or not be there on the marriage day.

    Can we have an Arnav-Akash scene - where both reminisce about their own love story and marriage.

    How abotu Payal and Akash discussing and getting excited about their siblings marriage as to how they used to fight each other and how they are getting married fighting against all odds.

    I am not asking for too much Am I.

    Have a great weekend everyone.

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    1. Shweths.....

      i picked the same nuance from that line.....that DD used and tying it up with the cryptic clue that mishti had said at the start of the track.....

      she said Dadi will be ok-ok.....read whatever u want into it...ab tak kisi bhi angle se woh ok-ok nahin thi.....in fact insufferable thi...so there may be some twist....ab sab Cvs par hain......

      not that i am holding my breath for it!!

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    2. Shwetha,
      Had the same thought on the black dress- she wore 'his' color. (Plus I am glad they completed that incomplete thought which made us all wonder about what she meant by the temple dialogue.)
      On dadi- she has this aura of 'SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS' which I hate.
      She does things by the book and therefore she believes she is right. She will look down on people trying to hide facts and she will uphold people who seem to have no problems to come out with the truth. Right now she trusts Shyam because he approached her in all humility and was 'honest'with her.

      Beyond that, I really don't feel she has any plans to throw a googly.

      Rekha,
      'Dadi will be OK OK': She is neither hot nor cold for me. I don't love her or hate her.(I love nani, Garima and Buaji even though I don't agree with their methods. May be I'll like dadi better later on in the show.) I thought this is what mishti meant by ok- ok. I could be totally wrong,just that I don't have high hopes from a lady like dadi.

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  13. Loved, loved, loved today's epi............the story moved forward and we got a hint of future plans.........so DamadJi is planning a dhamaka, most likely around wedding time so that he can ensure that it does not take place - hopefully DM will take care of such obstacles :))) .... I still can't figure out what Garima's role in the whole Malik MU is, other than that she covered up for someone by lying to DD & perhaps to others also.....Shyam is the catalyst in this story and as a lawyer from Lucknow, it would be very easy for him to unearth the details and use them to his advantage. From the hints that we got today, it looks like Shyam is going to endanger Anjali's life (alongiwth that of his unborn baby)to gain entry into RM; we may, also, not have heard the last of ASR's famous will.....I can only think of Anjali's life being in danger as the only reason that ASR will walk out of RM (with Khushi) and take up residence in GH, his wife's maika....kinda like the ongoing mirror reflection theme of this serial ....Damaadjis in their maika, but what a difference between the two! Which makes me think that the bro-sis rift is imminent and BFTP gets postponed once again....

    When DD finds out the truth, she will either have a peetal ka bartan moment or have a huge paralytic attack....either way, she will go back to ashram for more penance......amen to that..... :)

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  14. Ailo -
    Ghar Uska
    Paisa Uska
    Mehnat Uski,
    Biwi bhi Uski -
    Aur aitraaz in teen vilains ka!!

    Dadi / Anji - agar itni hi problem hai - then go live in the damads house - which would be the right thing to do in any case -
    How can the damad be given (or returned) the 'right' place in the house when he does not have one - he needs to live in his own house not his BIL's - adn for two sanskari, reeti riwaj wali women - you dont know that??

    - Big dhamaka by TF ??? forced pre mature baby ? or something else - something about why he married anji in the first place - not just money/greed but some other purpose? - (but lies at first of course - the actual truth, be it money or some other BFTF type reason will come out much later)

    garima's drama to drag

    show getting slow again - hope we have a good week next!

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  15. oh and the best scene of the day - aap aiengay na? - ahh i guess! - :D:D:D - cute

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    1. CUTE CUTE CUTE!
      yes, the best scene of the day!

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  16. Loved the episode... Am so happy that DD is being hoodwinked by Shyam..

    Remember the dialog about ASR siding with the wrong person in the past and now...I want him to be right on both occasions and DD to acknowledge she was the one who was in the wrong...

    Reason -it is bad enough for a kid to grow up thinking his dad is a good for nothing - but to find out he drove his father to suicide by misunderstanding him would be devastating...

    I want DD to realise what a scumbag Shyam is and start questioning her 'ladke kuch bhi kar sakte hai ' philosophy...

    Sri

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  17. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3163902 new promo!!

    nothing much, just the two dates...with a voice over saying that shyam has reentered the lives of ArHi.. :)

    nevertheless, atleast they are promoting!! Thank you, CVs, for that!!! now let it not be like the inconspicuous roka promo..

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  18. I am not able to post comments from my phone :(

    anyway..Thank you sooo much Devimayya for granting two of my wishes!! i am dancing with joy seeing Khushi in black!! have wanted to see her in black for sooo long!! and SI as usual looks breathtaking!!

    my second wish was for my work timings to change and guess what? they change from monday!! wooohhooo...8 PM i can watch the show and do my bak bak by 8:30!!!

    ok..the episode..everytime Anji lies..my hatred for her increases and my sympathy for ASR also does!! poor guy trusts her so much and is in for such a shocker!!
    I think Garima will come up with another plan to escape the wedding! bechari..doesnt want anything to go wrong with her daughter's wedding!!

    Can't wait for monday!!

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  19. Loved the epi, esp since I was Arhi- starved.
    Just that phone convo was enough to calm me down.
    Lovely epi in other ways too.
    Garima cannot run away, thank God!
    Shyam brought dadi in- big mystery solved there.
    Didn’t understand why he hid behind the curtain for so long then. Another mind game by the CVs?
    On hindsight, the thurs epi was an absolute filler.
    It was A ZERO episode, I feel.
    1. Anji’s meds were changed, we thought Shyam’d be unaware of it- now he knows.
    2. Garima tried to run away, did the CVs keep her because I ranted on and on? (*sheepish grin* Sama, we both learned a lesson this week. If you want something or don’t want something, rant on it all through the day. Someone will notice it and grant our wishes!!! )
    So anyway, Thursday was just a zero epi in terms of story movement. I still liked the GH interaction even though I did not agree with Garima’s methods.I guess her methods have not changed, she will still try to hide.

    On to Fri:
    Two thoughts.
    A. Shyam- Empty promises as usual, creepwa?
    Sigh…. I am watching you like a hawk again.
    If you don’t deliver this time, I am totally washing my hands off you, which I’ll be very GLAD TO! But you did succeed in getting ASR to MU Khushi for 5months (it runs in the family- now dadi and Anji are the willing targets) and managed to kidnap ASR too…
    I liked it that they gave us a monologue by Shyam. It was nice of you, CVs. Nothing specific, but we have 2 monologues now.
    1. I’ll never let K & ASR unite.
    2. I’ll do something to Rani Sahiba that when she demands I be there for her no one can refuse her.
    Based on this I feel Shyam will have a 3 pronged approach now.
    1. MU theory and probably accuse Khushi later.
    2. Play Anji card by harming her or the baby.
    3. Dadi- Garima complication which when he becomes aware of (if he does not already know about it- past Lucknow connection?) he will use in his favour.

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    1. B. dadi- nani- Garima.

      Dadi, I have to hand it to her is a no- nonsense lady. (Though right now she is being played by Shyam)
      I respect dadi for this one thing: She initited the convo on Shyam many times. She did not feel the need to keep it a secret and brought it up many times.
      Even now, she wants to bring it up and clear the issue. This woman is SERIOUSLY MISGUIDED but I appreciate her method of open discussion.
      Sadly, this is what ASR WANTED TOO! If only nani had listened to him.

      Nani: wants to give it more time. She thinks she has time. Let Anjali bitiya settle for some more time, then I’ll explain everything to Sumi, because it is a long story and I know how stubborn she can be if I don’t give her proof for everything! I love you nani, I wish you would talk to dadi before she gets more and more misguided.

      Garima- sweet, helpless mother- I can understand her hands are tied. But, what is she planning to do? Is she planning to come out in the open any time or will she wait for dadi to find her out?
      If that happens dadi will raise a question, “So you purposely hid from me and tried to get my pauta married to your niece. I don’t approve of this lying secretive nature that you have, woman. Based on your behaviour, what can I say about your daughter’s behaviour? Is it even a surprise that she lived with my pauta without taking the pheras and when I have to choose between daamadji who came to me with the truth and the daughter of a woman who tries to cheat my pauta and my family, whom should I believe?”- big dhamaaka!

      Is Shyam aware of this huge parallel track blessing that is awaiting him?

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    2. Su,
      Shyam hiding behind the curtain, initially : though Dadi knows him, but his true evil self is hidden from Dadi, which Shyam himself will show her one day

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  20. Fab update Dia, hope you are enjoying your trip :)

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  21. Yes, Geetu.
    Shyam's true evil self will come out... it has to ... one day....... WHEN?

    Sama, You wrote above "ASR kisi kaam ka nahi."
    I don't remember if it was in reply to you, I wrote this at the beginning of the track.
    ASR should not be spending all his time at home (romancing wife and pampering di)and at work. He should use his shatir dimag to find out what Shyam was up to and should not have let him go like that. I also said I'll not blame him if Shyam gets the upper hand again because di and Khushi took up all his time.

    So if Shyam gets away this time too, next round is ASR's- he will take revenge for what Shyam did to his di and his wife.

    Do thapad- in a bigger way! I am waiting for that ASR.

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    1. Su,

      After finding out about Anjali's lies..will he be able to forgive her that easily? he will understand her but i don't think he will be able to get over it quickly!!
      and you are right, he should have followed Shyam's actions..but then again how much can one guy do? wife, sister, business, and now dadi..poor ASR!!

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    2. Anita,
      For me, there is no question about him not forgiving his sister. Khushi has forgiven everyone who has misunderstood her. He will too. Not just because he has learned from Khushi- but also, I feel for 2 more reasons.
      1. The strong bro- sis bond.(I want this to be the strongest reason.)
      2. He himself allowed to be misled by Shyam, and hence he cannot judge Anjali for trusting Shyam, especially since he made that big mistake of keeping his sister in the dark from the beginning. He did it in her best interests, but it is going to backfire now. He has not told her the whole story even now.
      Much like how Garima will learn what she did in the best interests of Khushi is going to backfire on her.

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    3. anita, ASR is no shatir dimaag.. he just believes everything he sees.. i would call that dumb.

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    4. Anita : even i feel he will forgive her, but the bond won't be as before.....

      with Khushi he Mu'ed her, even then she did everything for him, even risked her life, so the bond became more strong..

      with Anjali, its exactly the opposite, he trust her beyond everything and now she is betraying him (though it mite be white lie, in her eyes) but for him its lying...so its gonna weaken their bond a lot....

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    5. @Jaya.. hahaha you completely insulted ASR, there!! :P that dumb word is reserved only for anji yaar!! :P lol..

      I would say he thinks with his head always..and seldom used his heart.. and coz of that in certain cases he becomes blind to the very obvious...

      so I don't know how he will react to anji's lies.. because like you said geetu, khushi had that strength to risk everything for him, despite him MU-ing her, coz she had nothing to lose...he already had the worst opinion ever of her..and what more could harm her?? So she didn't think even twice before attempting that act with shyam..

      but with anji, its not like that...she is extremely weak, all she will do upon the revelation of her lies is cry and cry some more..

      I hope the brother in ASR doesn't melt at those tears that easily.. although I must say that ASR is quite vulnerable to tears in his women's eyes.. so eventually he will give in.. but when and how, that remains to be seen..

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    6. yeah Mads, the weeping willow will weep some more :(

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    7. but if he forgives her easily then she won't learn her lesson, so to redeem herself, he has to be stern

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    8. Girls,

      i kind of feel he will tell her he forgives her (i dont want him to)..but will he ever recover from this betrayal of sorts??

      then i think about it..he knows how slimy Shyam is..so he may understand how she was used!
      clearly am over thinking all this!!

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    9. geetu, not weeping willow.. i hereby name her moaning myrtle.
      moan.. nobody cares about me
      moan.. nobody wants my baby
      moan.. nobody loves my hubby
      moan.. my brother loves his wife more
      moan.. i have to hide my 5 month baby bump..

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    10. Hmm....moaning myrtle fits better, weeping willow was still much more tolerable the MM

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    11. Girls,
      This kind of siblimg bond- I feel- will not be affected like that.
      Anji does not say yet, "Chhote, you threw my hubby out without proof. Therefore I'll not so easily agree to you marrying Khushiji who is the one who brought this whole MU." She participates in the wedding celebs wholeheartedly. She is truly happy for Chhote even when she believes without a doubt that he was unfair to her husband.
      Similarly, I feel ASR will not take this as betrayal. He may not say, "You chose to believe your creepwa hubby over your smart brother who did all this only for you. I did not expect this treachery from you, dear sis."- I feel it will not be this way. He will UNDERSTAND that his sister has a pea-sized brain (he should know at least this about her) and therefore accept it that he has to provide her with proof, since he himself demanded it from Khushi.(Serves him right!)

      He also knows how MANIPULATIVE Shyam is since he has convinced dadi too this time around. He will not take it as betrayal, but will be deeply sorrowed. But there will be no dent in the bro- sis or dadi- pauta relationship. I feel he will understand why they both believe what they believe and love them all the same. At least this is what I hope to see.

      Jaya, *hats off to you* for bringing in moaning myrtle: suits DB as well as Anjali.

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  22. OK. I can't resist this.
    This song was playing in my head yesterday throughout the day. It just came out of the blue and I could not even place it.
    I went to you tube and found this video.

    I was super EXCITED! Check out the link to see why.
    Hope you all like it. Wish someone'd make an Arhi video on this Lucky Ali song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSf5h2kZ8WA&feature=related

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    1. Oh!
      And Barun can't dance, Saala!

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    2. Su, even I simply LOVE that song...its sooo heart-wrenching!!! :( :(

      I would LOVEEE to make a mix on that song...but right now m making on some other song..as soon as I get time to make on this one, will do.. :))

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    3. i saw that whole serial on YT, and did not see any bits of ASR in shravan.. but now when i see that snippet, i see ASR many times! and yes, he has no sense of music or beats.. he was off the whole dance! (and boy, i love ankita's dancing!)

      lovely song.. back in the day, listened to it a lot.
      madsie, so you're working on a VM? great!

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    4. *hugs* both of you.
      Mads, thanks a lot for offering. I was thinking about asking you.
      Take your time, I can wait.
      Plus you might get more heart- wrenching scenes by the end of this track.
      Jaya, yes. I also saw ASR, thats what got me so excited on the video. The song, OFC, listened to it a lot during college days. Loved rediscovering it.

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  23. Ages ago I had made post about the IPKKND characters being chess pieces with Arnav and Shyaam being the Black and White King respectively and Khushi and Anjali being the Black and White Queen respectively....looks like the game is back on after a lull.

    When I saw NK very adorably teasing Arnav about Black being his attire of choice and then saw Khushi looking drop dead gorgeous in her black suit (A Black Sari for her was a personal shiddat;-)) I immediately remembered my Chess analogy.

    (The colors also being a sort of homage to the fact that Not only is Arnav always dressed in dark colors, but also he's perceived as a cynic and the black sheep of the family who has such faith in God and society....While Shyam dons the white kurt a and plays the part of the pure and kind hearted doting husband and son-in-law)

    i'm really glad Shyaam is back its always so much better with a male villain as opposed to the regular Saas hates her bahu type villain.

    Shyaam started the game (as white always does) and last time round with the help of Black Queen(Khushi) and Black Knight (NK) and a little assistance from the black pawn (Payal) there was definite Check....but not a check mate and the White King retreated.

    This time he's got his rook (Dadi) out to shield him (will use castling if need be) and will stay firmly out of the game using the queen and rook to make the play with back up of his wily bishop (mami) who will always side with his Queen.

    Right now the players are divvied up equally...

    Arnav, Khushi, Payal, NK for Black
    Shyaam, Anjali, Dadi, Mai for white

    Nani ever the neutral party will not hurt or be willing to sacrifice anything...

    Akash ideally the 'white knight' made it pretty clear he held Khushi and to some extent Payal responsible for the mess but at the same time trusted Bhai's judgement...still a question mark on this one...

    The main question is which piece will fall when Shyam makes his next move...

    Its hard for the King to win the game without the queen- she's his most important ally- but the game is about defeating the King after all...wonder if Arnav will have to compromise either Khushi or Anjali to check mate Shyaam...

    To find out keep watching Iss pyaar ko kya naam soon....Weekdays 8pm and repeat telecast at 11pm only on star Plus....;-)

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    1. wow gargi...interesting analogy!!! :) :)

      you are right, like all the chess games, this one also will not go without the sacrifice.. but usually its the queen that can make the most moves in chess, the king can only move so much, whereas queen can move in almost every direction.. and I think khushi proved this while she was fighting for arnav during kidnapping.."hum isse jyaada bhi neeche gir sakte hain..kyunki hum unse behad mohabbat karte hain!"

      so question is, will the queen do the moving this time too and protect her king, when the king recieves the mighty blow of betrayal from his white queen (anjali)?? or will the king formulate a move to protect his queen now?

      as you said, we can only wait and watch.. :))

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    2. Mads, Gargi : black king sacrificing his queen sounds scary..i hope he protects her now..... i don't want her to fall beyond what she already did....its really cringe-worthy feeling to see her with the white king... esp when he tries to touch her or cups her face..ewwwww...*dettol rinse*

      white king is all set to sacrifice his queen to win..i dont mind the white queen being the sacrifice (she is digging her grave, dont want khushi to fall in it, for no fault of hers)

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    3. Geetu, I agree.. I don't want black king to sacrifice his queen too.. and for some reason, I think he won't..because Arnav isn't really the sacrificing kinds...he is more of the "haasil kar lunga" kinds..

      even when he found out abt shyam-khushi and MUed khushi, he could have easily gotten rid of khushi to ensure that di's marriage remains safe.. but by that time, he had also fallen so hard for her that he couldn't let go of her too..hence he married her... in a twisted way he did sacrifice his happiness because he was gonna live with the woman who (he thought) was having an extra marital affair with his di's husband..so he chose di's happiness over his own..but in his own selfish way..

      and now, when he comes to know about di's betrayal, he won't let go of khushi all the more.. moreover, I do think this track is more about ArHi bond strengthening and a rift being created b/w the sibling bond.. or rather, how ArHi together, ensure that by the end of this track anji becomes a little more independent and the sibling bond is restored (hopefully) ..

      although this time, how arnav is gonna be able to forgive anji I don't know...because khushi was MU-ed by him, so there was no question of him forgiving her..here, anjali is lying to him plainly.. its gonna be devastating for him.. :(

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    4. Mads - I agree ASR is not the sacrificing kind - he is the one who writes his destiny...i hope the CVs don't forget that ...I can see Khushi taking the unilateral decision to be the sacrificial lamb - but I hope not..

      Most likely khushi sees Anji-shyam and hides this from Arnav in her convoluted best intentions -and Cvs will drag another chain of MUs and impediments - hope the CVs don't do that though
      Sri

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    5. Mads, *shiddat* to what u wrote above....

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    6. Hmmm sorry guys but I personally feel we're in for more Arhi turmoil... Shyam has something big up his sleeve and methinks it involves Garima and the past and if not break it will definitely strain a by then very strong Arhi bond...

      They're going to have to reconcile with the past and then face Shyam...

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    7. Gargi, i think first they'll concentrate to the bro-sis relationship, at that time he will need khushi with him the most, else he'll completely breakdown......the past will come in gradually...but after he comes to know bt anji's betrayal and khushi becoming the numero uno in his life......

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    8. I don't see the bro-sis relationship going the betrayal route.. Anji is delusional that Arnav has misunderstood her PP(pati parmeswar).Arnav has never told Anji he got shyam's intentions from the horse's mouth...

      when the truth of her meeting shyam comes out to Arnav- it will be you trust Khushi i trust Shyam - with no concrete evidence to the contrary, she can claim high ground ...

      Sri


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    9. Mads,
      "hum isse jyaada bhi neeche gir sakte hain..kyunki hum unse behad mohabbat karte hain!" :
      I also wondered then if those where prophetic words.
      I still think we might get to see it in some way we are not thinking.
      One scenario could be: she may not go forward as a sacrificial lamb for Anji's sake, but she might not answer any of the accusations levelled against her and let Shyam be-smirch her because she does not want the Raizadas and Guptas to know how he FORCED her to live with him. (If ASR has an accident and cannot be there to defend her. Shyam could ensure this happens.)

      Basically I feel she will not distance herself from ASR willingly now for di's sake, because she knows he loves her a lot. And her going away will hurt him a lot.
      Now, if she feels he will choose di and family(when Garima truth comes out)over her..... and therefore allow 'issse bhi neeche gir' ...even then ASR wouldn't let her.... which made me think of the accident scenario.

      BTW, does any one know how the accident rumour came up?

      "I don't see the bro-sis relationship going the betrayal route.": Sri, I am totally with you.

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    10. Su, there were spoilers bt the accident, but not the reliable source.....also since everyone knows the they wud want to prolong the SR after wedding, so everyone believed it.............

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  24. anjali meeting shyam and dadi..
    anji: "aap..? aur dadi?" i never thought you would think of dadi that way.. you two are having an affair arent you?
    snake: "i told you that the only person in this family who can understand me is dadi"
    anji thinking:"nahee i can forgive you loitering around khushi, payal, even laxmi, but dadi? she's my grandmother dammit!"

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    1. seriously.. see that scene and see anjali's expressions! it took a while for her to accept that it was not so!

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    2. Jaya,
      I felt the same!!!!!
      DB- why can't someone offer her a movie?

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    3. 'DB- why can't someone offer her a movie?' *lol*

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  25. Hummm So basically - we are never satisfied!
    When ODB used his head with KKG (KKG & TF part) - we were mighty upset and wanted him to use his heart - now he is using his heart with TQ and we want him to use his Head!!! Boy we sure are a demanding lot :D:D:D

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  26. Hey everyone*Hugs*

    Just a quick question:

    What is this about ASR's accident and Barun quitting and being replaced....rumors have started again.

    After the SPA awards functions, there were rumors that Barun had signed a movie, we did not take it seriously and BAM!, WE Got a confirmation.

    So any idea if it is true, the guy wants out before him movie releases?

    Any inside info on this one?

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    1. oh no - no no no - that will be the end of the show for sure! - one of those ekta kapoor shows where the face changes after an operation and plastic surgery is so damned good in India that the new face is ready minus scars and with perfect makeup!!!

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    2. really? it will be hard to see anyone else playing ASR..but is BS that stupid??the show is still popular..and the movie maybe a complete failure...
      he is dumb if the rumours are true!!

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    3. He's really dumb if he decided to do that!

      1. The movie may not really be a big hit
      2. Even if the movie's a hit, what's the guarantee that he'll get another offer so soon?

      Anyway, if that does happen, its the end of the show for me..thats for sure! As much as I cannot imagine anybody else as khushi, nobody can come close to barun's portrayal as ASR too!

      I wish the CVs would end IPK before Barun quits then...I wonder, is that why they are rushing the tracks?

      Btw, when is his movie releasing??

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    4. Most of the actors who quit popular roles for movies werent successfull either the movie got canned or it was a dud at BO and bs seems quite grounded, dont think he will take such a decision.....

      There was twitter chat post where his fans r pushing for his name for a movie n the guy replying was some associate director who said dat his name was suggested n dey r duscussing it so he mite b offered another role but i still feel theyll wait for his movie which is releasing next year

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    5. IF hasnt erupted yet with this news..so maybe its not true!
      ab tak toh unhe pagal ho jana chahiye naa??

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    6. OK. I live in eternal fear of this almost everyday, esp when we get a good episode.
      Shwetha, the way the show is going strong now I really hope it is only a rumor. If it is true,I am with mads- they should wrap up the show nicely. I can't imagine any one else playing ASR.

      Is ASR having an accident?
      Funny! I was just thinking of that yesterday.
      1. NK said durghatna to both of them.
      2. Woh aap wahan gir gaye the isliye hum daude chale aaye.

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    7. btw, girls there were some spoilers about accident....but i think its only to prolong the SR, nothing else....

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    8. Geetu.. yea thats where the Barun leaving rumours came from..don't think its true...

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    9. Girls, Actually IF did erupt on Sat night when I caught it on phone, but seems to have calmed down.

      Everyone is putting it as a rumor only. So....

      Jab tak hai, dekhtay hain, aur kar bhi kya saktay hain,lol.

      *hugs*

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  27. Shwetha,
    *Hugs to you too* I never got to reply to your response a few days back.Get to post only in evenings US time :(
    I sure hope the rumor is not true...tough to envision anyone else in the role now :(
    Sri

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  28. completely random:

    - ODB MUed ODG, from the SM event to the terrace scene - and the narration seems to be hinting at more troubles between ODB&G post revelation of BFTP - could the BFTP be a googly by the CVs in the sense that instead of ODB getting upset with ODG - its ODG's chance to get upset/MU ODB?

    - will Garima manage to run away / hide before the all imp mehndi? (the mehndi now seems more imp than the haldi for sure) and the dhamaka will happen when dadi sees Garima at the event?
    OR will dadi use her brains and see GArim's pics (from Payash wedding) and wait for the mehndi to create a dhamaka?
    OR will Dadi play her cards in such a way that the Damadji will have to be summoned on the mehndi/godh bharai and ODB will not be able to show TF out as that would hurt KKG's big day?

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    1. Mona, not random.
      I also had this thought.
      ASR will not let any BFTP or even di take Khushi away from him.
      What if the BFTP is from Khushi's side- I felt someone from Khushi's father's family will come in search of her- 14 years after serving a life sentence? - finds out how ASR wrecked K's life by forcing her in to a live- in relation(Can we call it a marriage any more?)- takes her away- it is not in ASR's hands then to ignore the BFTP- he has to go out and fight that too...
      Later track?
      I feel Arhi will not blame each other for whatever may have happened in the past, I am thinking a full blown khaandaan rivalry like heer ranjha.
      Random thought!
      Do you remember how nani said Khushi is from a good khaandaan and she gave nani a confused look?

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  29. SAAAAANDEEEEEY..........
    Where are youuuuuuu?

    Missing you a lot.
    NKisms- he has been blabbering a lot!
    Julaab and some rubbish and all.

    MISSING your insights.
    Hope everything is fine at your end.
    *hugs*

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  30. Random question
    Did Khushi put a ring on Arnav's right hand or left.

    Lin

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  31. Lin - she put it on Arnav's right hand.

    Shwetha/Geeta/Anita/Mads - IPPKNDwasis ka haal is best described by the old Asha Bhosle song "aage bhi na jaane tu, aage bhi na jaane tu, jo hai bas yehi ek pal hai" - let's enjoy what we have at the moment.

    Just a thought tho - Sanaya is a brilliant actress, even when she does the scenes with Barun's BD &/or others, it is difficult to tell the difference from her expressions. Barun's expressions, on the other hand, lack that intensity/chemistry...wish the PH had completed the serial within a year - it would have retained its freshness and consistent pace ... :(

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    1. Sorry but can you let me know why the ring goes on the right on a man but on the left with the women. Just for my info.

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    2. Oops..........meant to type "aage bhi jaane na tu, peeche bhi jaane na tu".....

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    3. Lin,
      As the Adi-dampati( primeval couple) of Shiva Parvati are depicted in ultimate Ardhanariswara the right is the male half(shiva) and the left is the female half(parvati).. hence the ring on the left for the woman and right for the man.

      however, in all our rasams in AP the woman is placed on the man's left in keeping with the above iconography - but in the roka they put Khushi on the right - anyone have an explanation for that ?

      Sri

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    4. Don't have an explanation for that, but during the weddings, when they have four pheras, the groom leads the bride in the first three, and sits to his right, then the bride leads the groom in the fourth, and then sits to the left of the groom, signifying she is now closest to his heart.

      We need our resident experts UJ and Sandy to give the significance for this :)

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    5. When are you coming back from your vacation Dia?

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  32. i know Dia being on leave means no shiddat posts - but have to have one - Sandy - please drop in, even if just to say hi and to let us know you are ok

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    1. Wanna add the whole of R&R power of shiddat behind that one... Sandy!!!!

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    2. I also want to go along with that shadat. Sandy, please let us know that you are OK. We are all missing you.

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  33. just a question - if i remember correctly - At Payash's wedding - first was sangeet - then mehndi - then haldi - and no sagia - right? also they had a pooja after the halsi and Payash were in it together - no 'not meeting the bride thingy here'

    here we have had a sagai/roka - and sangeet is next - so we shall be having a mehndi and a haldi as well + of course the wedding - so by the speed they are going at now - this is prbably going to stretch for 2 months or so? 2 weeks already gone by , 1.5ish left to go

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    1. They had a sagai, Mona, remember? When Lavanya-Arnav were also supposed to get engaged but cancelled at the last minute, and only Payash got engaged, and after that La left.

      Didn't they have a Satyanarayan poja first? That was when Khushi learned the truth about Shyam for the first time, then went missing, Arnav got frantic and tried calling her, and La overheard him ... then he broke off the engagement.

      So as far as I remember, for Payash, they had pooja, then engagement, then sangeet, mehndi and haldi ... and they had another havan just after haldi when they had the bangle scene.

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  34. Hi gals, was away on a week long vacation abroad and am back. I see a lot of resentment of Anj and despicable as her behaviour is I can only sympathise with her and not really hate her because I believe she suffers from a personality disorder known as dependent personality disorder or DPD and urgently needs psychiatric help. Although I am not a psychologist here is what I found about this disorder in the net and Anj perfectly fits in with the description of such people.


    Dependent personality disorder (DPD) is described as a pervasive and excessive need to be taken care of that leads to a submissive and clinging behavior as well as fears of separation. This pattern begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts. The dependent and submissive behaviors are designed to elicit care giving and arise from a self-perception of being unable to function adequately without the help of others.

    They want attention, however, they have an aversion to taking up responsibility for decision-making. Dependent individuals avoid situations that require them to accept responsibility for themselves; they look to others to take the lead and provide continuous support. They are scared to make their own decisions, lest they are not agreed upon by someone who cares for them.
    They would not mind continuing a relationship even if their partner is physically and mentally torturing them.


    They have the tendency to cling to anyone, whom they feel, would be capable to take care of them. Someone who shows a caring demeanor toward them will be their ultimate support system. They have a fear of being left alone, or being abandoned or rejected.


    They would sway by the decision that their loved one takes for them.


    DPD judgment of others is distorted by their inclination to see others as they wish they were, rather than as they are. These individuals are fixated in the past. They maintain youthful impressions; they retain unsophisticated ideas and childlike views of the people toward whom they remain totally submissive.

    Individuals with DPD will approach both their own and others' failures and shortcomings with a saccharine attitude and indulgent tolerance. To be comfortable with themselves and their inordinate helplessness, individuals with DPD deny the feelings they experience and the deceptive strategies they employ. They will live in denial, or distortion of both their own and others' negative, self-defeating, or destructive behaviors to sustain an idealized, and sometimes fictional, story of the relationships upon which they depend. They will deny their individuality, their differences, and ask for little other than acceptance and support. They may go to extreme lengths to obtain nurturance and support from others, even to the point of volunteering for unpleasant tasks if such behaviour will bring the care that they need.


    Individuals with DPD see relationships with significant others as necessary for survival. They do not define themselves as able to function independently; they have to be in supportive relationships to be able to manage their lives. They believe they will be all right as long as the strong figure upon whom they depend is accessible.


    In order to establish and maintain these life-sustaining relationships, people with DPD will avoid even covert expressions of anger. They will be more than meek and docile; they will be admiring, loving, and willing to give their all. They will be loyal, unquestioning, and affectionate. They will be tender and considerate toward those upon whom they depend. Their limited perceptiveness allows them to be naive and uncritical.

    (Contd)

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  35. Anj went through a major catastrophe as she just entered adulthood. Being a physically handicapped with a low self esteem to begin with, this made her regress further into a person with DPD. We know Anj is dependent on Shyam and Arnav but she is also dependent on K. This is why Anj willingly accepted Khushi after she got over her initial resentment of her. She knows K is close to Arnav whom she is dependent on. K can make Arnav do things which she herself cannot. So in effect Anj is dependent on K as well and hence she is considerate towards her. As to the lying and the betrayal, it is part of her disorder to keep her 'perfect world' rather than a conscious decision to deceive.


    So in my opinion, she needs treatment and not condemnation. For individuals with DPD, the goal of treatment is not independence but autonomy. Autonomy has been defined as the capacity for independence and the ability to develop intimate relationships. As with other personality disorders, treatment goals should not be in contradiction to the basic personality and temperament of these individuals. They can work toward a more functional version of those characteristics that are intrinsic to their style. Seven traits and behaviors of the "devoted personality style," i.e., the non-personality-disordered version of DPD is suggested for this purpose.


    • ability to make commitments;
    • enjoyment of intimacy;
    • skills as a team player—without need to compete with the leader;
    • willingness to seek the opinions and advice of others;
    • ability to promote interpersonal harmony;
    • thoughtfulness and consideration for others; and,
    • willingness to self-correct in response to criticism.

    In other words, the treatment would involve turning the intrinsic negative traits to the positive ones listed above.



    Lets see if the CVs have the maturity to handle such a delicate and sensitive subject once they have started it rather than make her out to be another grey character whose prime purpose in life is to make Arshi's life miserable.



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    1. opti, saying TQ is suffering from any kind of mental disease , IMO, is rerouting the issue. yes, if she is reacting (in the way she is) because of past trauma/mental disorder , we can accept that anjali is white.. but our frustration at her planning to make big kabab mein haddi decisions is not going to abate just because she is white :D

      just like my anger at the ridiculousness of dadi accepting the newfound damaadji and blindly treating his word as truth. if she had even a bit of ASR in her, she would come to the house, observe the dynamics, get some facts from her childhood friend, and then make independent decisions.. not sway wherever the winds blow her.

      here, it is evident that she knew khushi as arnav's wife /seductress..(on re-watch, even the dirty water scene has dadi observing khushi with unabashed curiosity) yet treated her like a servant.. and as someone at IF pointed out, she has no problems accepting pooja thal from HP, but made a big fuss at khushi touching it.. so she did come with preconceived notions.

      anjali, on the other hand, only wants to be close to her husband.. whom she believes, was wrongly accused by her brother. in that case,she should at least ask arnav one heartfelt question..." why are you doing this to ME, you know how important he is to me.." whatever arnav's response maybe, anjali if she is white, will implore arnav for her husband's re entry to RM. grovel, in fact.

      she would not need to meet him behind doors and trees, she would definitely not invite him into the house when everyone is away.. she will invite him when others are present, because she believes that he did no wrong. if she can go on strike to bring a strange worker(as khushi was, at the time of lavanya) into the house, how much more will she do to bring her own husband(wrongly accused) back into RM?

      okay, shyam told his wife that arnav thinks shyam misbehaved with khushi(forget the hard evidence, if anjali did not register those)so he has been banished, should not anjali do everything in her power to remove arnav's misunderstanding? she knows arnav would do anything for her happiness.. why this hiding drama?

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    2. or, if she understands that arnav loves his wife and is immovable on his decision, she should at least try to influence nani and mami..

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    3. very nice study Opti, yes the characteristics do match up....but as Jaya pointed out, some of the facts shown dont add up....

      also Anjali has taken some decisions in the past, like getting Khushi to train LA, blackmailing ASR to let Khushi stay in RM, etc etc......so its like the cv's dont know which route to take, shud they make it a disorder or show her more greyish......

      also its difficult for general audience to accept the disorder, i for one dint know bt this disorder at all......so its very difficult to expect general crowd to understand her condition and be considerate towards it....

      if u recollect all that she has done till date, she comes across as a self-centered and manipulative person...though in shyam's case its more of blind love....but still self-centered she is.....

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    4. Jaya,

      I am not saying that Anj's behaviour is not affecting Arshi.She is a kabab mein haddi but is she doing it consciously and with the mind that can think rationally? She is not. I am reposting the relevant characteristics of DPD people here which explains Anj's inexcusable behaviour.

      "DPD judgment of others is distorted by their inclination to see others as they wish they were, rather than as they are. These individuals are fixated in the past. They maintain youthful impressions; they retain unsophisticated ideas and childlike views of the people toward whom they remain totally submissive.

      Individuals with DPD will approach both their own and others' failures and shortcomings with a saccharine attitude and indulgent tolerance. To be comfortable with themselves and their inordinate helplessness, individuals with DPD deny the feelings they experience and the deceptive strategies they employ. They will live in denial, or distortion of both their own and others' negative, self-defeating, or destructive behaviors to sustain an idealized, and sometimes fictional, story of the relationships upon which they depend. They will deny their individuality, their differences, and ask for little other than acceptance and support. They may go to extreme lengths to obtain nurturance and support from others, even to the point of volunteering for unpleasant tasks if such behaviour will bring the care that they need."

      See, with this sort of attitude how can you expect her to ask Arnav why did he send KP out especially when he had already told her that he did it because he trusted K. It is Arnav's fault for not telling her that he himself had heard and seen that KP is a crook. Since he did not do so, she is living in denial. Her meeting KP in close doors in her bro's house does not appear wrong to her because her diseased mind does not see it that way. Her deception does not appear like deception to her because she would be justifying it to herself that she needs her husband for support at any cost and as long as no one is aware of it, it should not matter to them. This justification would have only gained more credence after she had witnessed K and A lying to her and meeting behind her back. So since they too are doing it, she too can do it. Why not confront them with their lies? Again, her DPD would explain why. Such people avoid confrontation, especially with the people whom they are dependent and we know she is dependent on both A and K. This would explain her apparent wild mood swings. She genuninely does not bear a grudge against K or A. At the same time she has not accepted her hubby is a crook. In her irrational mind all these things can co-exist. That is why I said she needs medical help ASAP.

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    5. Opti,

      We are the only 2 people who seem to agree on Anjali mostly.
      I've been asking this Q over and over again, if Gul would want Anjali to be seen as a negative character. The answer in my mind and honestly, what I see on the screen is a big NO.

      I agree with most of what you've written, though I don't know if you can classify this as a disease needing 'treatment'.It could be a personalty trait.
      On personalty disorders:




      These disorders typically aren't diagnosed until an individual is a young adult, often not until their 20's or even 30's. Most individuals with personality disorders lead pretty normal lives and often only seek psychotherapeutic treatment during times of increased stress or social demands. Most people can relate to some or all of the personality traits listed; the difference is that it does not affect most people's daily functioning to the same degree it might someone diagnosed with one of these disorders. Personality disorders tend to be an intergral part of a person, and therefore, are difficult to treat or "cure."


      Anji is stressed, when the stress factor is over she will be more normal. You cannot change her personalty completely, though I agree, I feel she will definitely benefit from counselling.
      Actually, I feel really bad for people like this. They cannot help themselves. I can only say 'poor thing'!
      I really hope bitwa understands his di.
      Even if he does not (remote possibility), I feel Khushi will make sure di is fine.

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    6. Su,

      From what I have read, a personality trait is different from a personality disorder. All of us have some traits which make up our personality but it would be termed a disorder when these traits are extreme to the point of irrationality. Yes, it is difficult to distinuish it as a disorder because under normal conditions, their behaviour will not appear abnormal requiring treatment which may be the reason why no one realised she has a problem to begin with.


      Gul in one of her interviews mentioned that Anjali is more damaged than Arnav. Now to me the word 'damaged' meant in terms of mental health. Yes, disorders cannot be cured but from what I read it appears that the positive side of the extreme traits these people exhibit can be enhanced through counselling. I had mentioned those traits in my earlier post.


      If they are hinting at such a condition for Anj, they need to go the entire way and show its resolution. Arshi can help in this process. It need not look like a documentary if they make a story of her healing process like her finding lasting love with her counsellor or something.

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    7. Geetu,

      You have some valid points. Let me try to explain my perception of them.


      You said "Anjali has taken some decisions in the past, like getting Khushi to train LA, blackmailing ASR to let Khushi stay in RM, etc etc"


      Yes, she has been instrumental in getting K to RM. If you look at this decision, it is triggered from her need to ensure A does not leave the house with La as he kept threatening to. In other words, she wanted to retain her primary supporter (Arnav) and came up with this idea to ensure he remains with them. As given in the net research I undertook it conforms to what is said here. "They may go to extreme lengths to obtain nurturance and support from others, even to the point of volunteering for unpleasant tasks if such behaviour will bring the care that they need."

      Also if you look at her reaction when Arnav blew the top and said that he gets to decide who stays in his house, her insecurities were apparent in her holding her knees tight. It may seem like manipulation to the common viewer to to her it does not appear so because her need to be secure in her fictional world is so strong she goes to any extent to retain it.


      You said, "also its difficult for general audience to accept the disorder, i for one dint know bt this disorder at all......so its very difficult to expect general crowd to understand her condition and be considerate towards it...."

      You are right. A general viewer finds her behaviour strange but then does it appear that she is grey? No. They keep giving us mixed signals. She appears genuinely happy to accept Khushi into the household even when she believes in her husband's innocence. Now how can both her husband and Khushi be right at the same time? A rational person, whether she is good or bad, cannot accept such a situation and will necessarily have to take sides. The only way this can be explained is if the person is suffering from some disorder as Anj seems to be. I hope when the volcano erupts and her deeds come to light they spend time delving and explaining her behaviour to the common viewer by way of some counselling sessions so that people can understand and empathise with such people.

      if u recollect all that she has done till date, she comes across as a self-centered and manipulative person...though in shyam's case its more of blind love....but still self-centered she is.....

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    8. Jaya,
      in that case,she should at least ask arnav one heartfelt question..." why are you doing this to ME, you know how important he is to me.." :

      This is what I feel.
      Anjali has progressed slowly after the bad news.
      1. At first she went into depression and anger.(Throwing ASR out- I loved that bit of her reaction. That was her way of telling him I cannot believe you did this to me Chhote, I don't even know what just happened back there.)
      2.Next she went all out to harm the baby because she thought it will be hated like the father.(I don't know what exactly K told her- I did not watch that part- but it is pretty irritating when someone comes and tells you what to do when it is the last person you want to see at that time. I am with Anji there. She is wondering, "Does Khushi even know what I am going through, it is OK for her to tell me to get on with my life, but , It is not as simple as she thinks. And how can I believe my husband (her fbs were: him telling her that her place is not at her feet, but in his heart or something like that.) has done any wrong when no one has given me any proof. (That she does not connect the dots on the engagement....i is not her fault. It is the story writer who does not want her to think. They can happily blame it on her depressed and denial state.Plus I feel it will play as fbs when, in the end she will connect the dots) She is blind to everything else not because she is madly in love, but because SHE TRUSTS HER JUDGEMENT OF SHYAM more than Khushi's. And Chhote has been swayed by Khushi, so his mind is clouded too.
      3. Then she tries to re- build her life, asking nani- "kaun sach bol raha hai"- which is a question she should have asked Chhote. Her Anjali is CLINGING on to a hope- that it is all a misunderstanding- but no one else gives her that hope.This is another form of her denial- which makes her fearful to bring it up with ASR- what if her worst fears were confirmed?
      4. This is when Shyam enters with his lies. She is desperate to believe that their world- which I feel in her mind involves ASR-K and Shyanji- will remain perfect, and Shyam gives her just that. See how smart Shyam is. He does not tell her that Khushi pursued him, but now he has changed it to I MU-ed her and she MU-ed me. For the time being he will stick on to it. Again, Anji does not question him on what he told her earlier, because HE HAS TOLD HER WHAT SHE WANTED TO HEAR ALWAYS-that things will be back to normal.
      5. Now she is happy. She is even more happy that Khushiji made ASR wear the Kurta for her and thanks her for it.
      6. And happy to have another one of her dreams fulfilled- that of Chhote's wedding.
      7. Yes, she is meeting her husband behind everyone's backs- and IT IS TROUBLING HER- she has just now expressed that she does not like it.
      8. And finally, here is one more person who believes her version of the truth, so SHE CAN'T BE WRONG AFTER ALL!

      IT IS ALL A SAD MU- now dadi is here and it will get cleared up.
      Her world and Chhote's world will be perfect once again.


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    9. Jaya,
      "she knows arnav would do anything for her happiness.. why this hiding drama?":
      That night Anjali told, "Khushiji, I will never trust you again"
      and Chhote said, "I trust Khushi even if she has no proof"
      I think Anjali knows and ACCEPTS the priorities in her brother's life.

      This is why she thanked Khushi for getting Arnav to do that one thing of wearing the Kurta. (for me, this is a HUGE pointer to the innocent nature in Anjali's character.She is saying, "I don't want to discuss my husband with you. I don't think you know him as well as I do.Most likely, you misunderstood him. But you are my Chhote's wife. I respect you in that position. I am glad for him that he found his love. And I cannot really thank you enough for doing this for me. THANK YOU, Khushiji.")
      Hiding- she is not hiding this forever- already she is feeling guilty. She is thinking of how to approach this, keeping in mind the fact that ASR actually slapped his siter's husband only based on Khushi's accusations. She knows how hot tempered and stubborn her brother can be, she is just thinking about the best way to go forward. And now dadi is here, supports these clandestine meetings- SHE DOES NOT HAVE TO FEEL GUILTY ANY MORE. Dadi will take care of how to clear the MU.

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    10. Opti,
      "she comes across as a self-centered and manipulative person."

      1. Button sewing scene
      2. Thank you Khushiji for ASR kurta
      3. Teasing Chhote before the wedding.

      I see a loving sister who wants the best for her brother and she does not appear self- centered here.

      On La track- "she wanted to retain her primary supporter (Arnav) and came up with this idea to ensure he remains with them.":

      I totally differ with you here and maybe that is why I stick on to the personalty trait and not a disorder.
      I still see a loving sister who wanted to ensure that her lil brother upholds his family ties regardless of his modern beliefs. She did put her foot down and demanded on a proper wedding for Khushi, she could very well have sided with him or at least kept quiet if she wanted to just make him happy. Anji is trying to do what she believes is best for her brother- always. (Poor thing, ends up being MU-ed always thanks to DB.)

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    11. Opti Jaya & Su - wow you ladies have done your Literature teachers proud today :D:D am pretty sure even the CVs dont look into their characters with this quality ka lens :D - well done ladies

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    12. Su, I had not said she was a self centered person. I had merely quoted Geetu and wanted to post my comments on it but forgot to do so. Yes, she does come across as a loving sister and not a self centered person. She is weak minded and clingy but she is not self centered.

      Su, I disagree with you on the La issue because she did not protest enough when Chottey wanted to bring her in as a live-in companion. Nani was the one dead against it.It is only after he threatened to walk out that she became desperate to find a via media between what Chottey wanted and what nani wanted. Yes, she did demand a proper wedding but then she acccepted it when Chottey threatened to leave the house and she placated Nani into make do with the post marriage ceremonies. In fact right through the show she came across as someone who wouldn't want to disturb the balance and although she had her beliefs, if they come into conflict with the other she did not fight hard enough to uphold it. There is no doubt she loves her brother and loves Khushi for loving her brother and taking care of him but to me she does appear to have a personality disorder and not just a personality trait because her actions many a times are not that of a rational person.

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    13. Opti,
      I meant the wedding that is going on now.
      She could've sided with him or kept quiet. She went right against him. She did it because she thought Chhote was wrong here and sided with the elders.

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    14. Opti,
      "if they come into conflict with the other she did not fight hard enough to uphold it.":
      You could also call it a giving in nature.
      I don't want to upset you Chhote or nani, therefore I don't mind sacrificing my beliefs and MY HAPPINESS for your happiness.
      And this wedding track- Chhote you have really crossed the limits this time.You cannot have your way this time around, because this issue is really huge.
      As soon as he agreed, "Great!You made my dreams come true."

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  36. And can they please mention that ODB bought the house for buaji - really want closure on this issue - want ODB's image re-established after the no water no electricity fiasco!!

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    1. Mona,
      Dadi already said that ODB bought the house in Khushi's name which came as a big shock to Khushi, Buaji and all present.
      How did dadi know?

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    2. Su, i guess Shyam has done his homework, and knows more details about everyone in RM then anyone else.....so he must've told Dadi...

      now, we know that Dadi also feels its a misunderstanding from Arnav's POV, but does she feel the same for Khushi, i dont think so, i think she feels Khushi started all this on purpose, for money...

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    3. Su/Geeta - i know Dadi mentioned it but i want ODG to ask ODB about it - after all the Gupta's are very 'Khuddar' people (dont know the exact word for it in english )- they would not receive a gift horse without any followup - no thank yous - no what happened here? - i mean this was an excellent opportunity to show that ODB would never harm ODG's family no matter he says to her - in the form of empty threats - those are just part of his game with her

      And yes of course dadi will use this to build on her belief that KKG is after the money - all the more reason for ODB to tell her that she does not even know of the ownership status right now! - come on CVs do close the loop

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    4. Geetu,
      I suspect the same.
      She thinks Khushi manipulates and she has already said it.
      1. You ensured he got the house for you.
      2. YOu made sure Arnav came to the temple for you.

      and to nani, "Don't think I cannot see beyond all this" right after nani says, "Arnav took the decision to come to the temple."
      Meaning: This girl is manipulative.

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    5. Mona,
      I didn't get the loop yaar.

      "to show that ODB would never harm ODG's family no matter he says to her": she knows that already, right."Humei pataa hai aap humse kitna pyaar karte hain"

      "ODB to tell her that she does not even know of the ownership status right now!": dadi said it in front of RM with Khushi and Buaji minus ASR.
      ASR does not know dadi accused Khushi of this. He does not even know that dadi knows about it.
      Plus the CVs will not clear dadi- Khushi MU any time now, I feel.

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    6. hehe - actually i am just being greedy - i know the two of them know and don't need any more assurances - but i want it - i mean in words - i want it made to the audience that ASR is no beast - KKG knows that (we do too) but i want it said to the layman who only saw this obsessive lover going to the extent of almost throwing out his wife's sick, old folks

      Plus it is in line with the character of Buaji and the rest - how can they accept something so big and say nothing about it - i mean they did not even tell him when they were facing financial problems even though they consider him as a son - so how can they accept this without a murmur

      plus i know ODB does not know what dadi accuses ODG of - point is - i want him to know - (again purely personal demand - thew more the battle between ODB & dadi - the closer ODB&G get :D

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    7. Greedy,
      I get your point. *hugs*

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  37. https://www.findmylook.com/show/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon.html
    Have you all seen this???

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    1. Can't watch it from mobile, Su..can you please give a gist of what it is abt?? Anything to be worried abt?? :-P

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    2. No mads,
      They are selling Khushi dresses and Sanaya is the model.
      They don't seem to have mentioned the size, so I am not sure if it is a joke. Has SP logo.

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