Tuesday, August 21, 2012

22/8 - Epi 325 ... Divine Intervention

Wednesday 22nd August

Have not watched episode yet ... my internet connection at the hotel sucks ... so slow!!! :(
Title given from the updates :)

Making new post for Thursday's episode as well, as I have a busy day tomorrow and am very jet-lagged. Continue the discussions here today, and please switch to the new post only after the episode tomorrow, or in case the discussions cross 200 comments ... I will log in some time during the day to check and update posts accordingly.
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  1. AnonymousAugust 21, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    Wish u a happy n safe journey, Dia! Enjoy your vacations :)
    : Ananya

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  2. Aarthi RamaniAugust 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Dam my ASR is coming back in parts.. glares are back !!
    Am happy because my hubby gave a big complement to our ASR -- this guy so reminds me of vijai(his friend) who has the ASR attitude to core.. and that phone convo tooks us back to our courting days... Bitwa disconnecting when bitiya told him was so real for me ahhhhhh now I can connect to characters after a long time.

    NK is meeting a friend.. thats odd because CV's never give info about Nk missing, they always do it after his return.. So is it an indication that NK will see Anji with her mystery friend??

    From the Precap it feels that Garima -DD face off has been averted once more with bitwa's entry ...
    So the confrontation would be after haldi or after marriage... seems like after marriage and before bidai... Khushi has to know the truth before the gharpravesh.
    And anji goes into labour with the news and SR postponed...

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  3. RekhaAugust 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    Hey Dia, thank u for putting up the post, have a safe flight and great vacation...

    Episode...an inch closer to the mysterious past...by the looks of it.

    Anji is not only spending her bro's money, she is maha careless about it...I felt like telling Arnav bitwa "ulloo banne ke bhi paise tum hi de rahen do, isse bada durbhagya kya hain?" Shyamu buys camera equipment with sale shahab's money, wah bhai wah... for a guy who looks at a cc statement with a hawk's eye, how did u let the security of RM slip up so much....buddhu.

    Arnav-Khushi convo....even tho it was unASRish in a tiny part, it passed off well for me...I thot Khushis lines were a bit odd...at places..I lied the lucknow ref tho....maybe i need a re-watch but i liked the way it ended....

    Garima...out with it baby...pathal se dhund legi tumhe DD....are we heading for Garima telling Khushi all and they going to Godric's hollow? with Arnav following them but the Anji preterm angle is causing confusion.....
    If Anji's roktok is enuf, why is any other needed as of now

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  4. SamaAugust 21, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    Girls this is for tomorrows episode ... Move to the post Epi-324

    Thanks

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  5. madsAugust 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    Wish you a very pleasant journey, Dia!!! :)) hope you have a safe flight and see you soon.. :) take care..

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  6. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    wish u a safe journey Dia... and have fun :)

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  7. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    our shiddats were misdirected :(((

    shyam gets a haircut and is clean shaven too... was dat why he was missing y'day? he had a stubble y'day though

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    1. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:19 PM

      krish, I wouldn't like a clean shaven Barun/Arnav.. :( he looks more handsome in a stubble.. :)) but yes, a haircut is desperately needed..although I have made peace with it now and have convinced myself that m not gonna get it..

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    2. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM

      yeah.. no clean shaven asr.. but his stubble sometimes looks super prickly... i dnt want it to be a KMH in the kiss ;))

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    3. GeetanjaliAugust 22, 2012 at 5:09 PM

      even Shyam dint look good with the clean shave.....he looked better with the french beard....

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    4. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 10:20 PM

      shyam looks more villainous in the clean shave.. puts more emphasis on his evil eyes :D

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    5. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 12:12 AM

      Have a fantastic trip Diya*Hugs*

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    6. GeetanjaliAugust 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM

      Jaya, i burst out laughing on his first darshan after the clean-shave :D

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  8. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Can I BEAT the life out of Anjali Shyam Jha???!!!! The hypocritical B****!!!!

    Sorry, but I am extremely pissed at her (not the CVs...good job, CVs..lots of loops closed here), not that this wasn't expected, this was EXACTLY what I expected...but I am soooo pissed at her!!!

    the nerve of that woman to accuse her chotey (who loves her to death) of lying to her when he actually isn't lying...and then lying shamelessly to him.. worse is, in the end when she says to shyam that she is tired of meeting secretly and even then accusing chotey of having an MU.. NEVER, I repeat.. NEVER, once even feeling bad that she is tired of lying to him..or that she doesn't want to lie to him..

    I will update the epi for those travelling after I calm down a bit..

    again CVs - Garima was going to tell khushi the truth today, right? So are we to assume she turned cold feet upon seeing dadi.. so easier said than done?! And looks like she is moving back to Lucknow tomo, from the precap.. or to that ashram thingy where shashi babu's treatment is going on..

    I liked - now that DM has given her official permission, the wedding WILL happen...one way or the other..

    I didn't like - Arnav didn't defend Garima/khushi when dadi was hurling taunts saying tumhari mausi humse milna hi nahi chahti.. or probably he is too tired of justifing to dadi now..

    I liked - khushi finally told arnav that it matters to her what dadi thinks of her.. so now hopefully he will do something..

    I SUPERLIKED - Abhaas is back.. :D :D YAY!! waiting to see what his next plan is.. as of now looks like the events of shyam and dadi entering RM are mutually exclusive..so waiting for the double dhamaka..

    Arnav is sure to get pissed at anjali for lying to him..he is gonna be soo shattered.. :( :( good thing, khushi is there to support him.. and the final few steps of his RTR.. :)

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    1. UJAugust 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      Mads

      Hugssss!!!! I am so hlad Anji turned grey. I could never sympathise with that woman from day one of the dhamaka.... Cant tell you how happy I am. Could mot have handled white anji at all.

      Glad you said you also feel the marriage will sure happen.... Ab toe more so. When Arnav realises Anji truth and is broken he has to have khushi next to him.

      Although i have not seen the episode my feeling Arnav and Khushi leave RM together after their wedding.... Bubbly track of missing Arnav khushi in the family photo has to play out....

      Also now that Anji thinks Arnav is lying to her and MU and all. If simething happens to her baby due to those pills she will blame chotey and khushi... Yucks!!!!

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    2. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      hugss back, UJ.. :))

      Well, anji isn't exactly grey..she seemed more delusional and conveniently hypocritical (like she always is).. I don't really know..DB isn't exactly a great actor..so she hasn't been able to convince me completely what she is.. I keep on remembering her interview lines "try and understand her POV, she is hormonal and preggers"..so nope, she would NEVER settle down for being 'grey'.. I can think of three possibilities -

      1. She is supposed to be delusional and is acting that
      2. She is supposed to be grey, but is not able to pull it off
      3. She is grey, pretending to be delusional..and is not able to pull that off either (tooo complicated for her meagre acting skills, I would say)

      because she DEFINITELY did not look grey..

      although one thing I noticed, all the times she remembers how she has escaped from after having talked/met with shyam.. khushi's is the only one she doesn't remember.. :S on purpose?? Is she really happy with the wedding or no??

      what I would like to see - Arnav getting the truth about cameras and shyam right after their wedding (SR night it is) ... and when anjali's truth about her meeting shyam secretly comes out, he takes a clear stand and says "di..if you wanna stay delusional and live with yous scum of a husband and accuse ME of having an MU..worse, lying to me, after accusing me of all those times that I was lying to you, when I was clearly not... then I don't think I respect you enough anymore.. you want to live with shyam..and I won't allow khushi to live under the same roof as he does, after all that she has been through.. so we both are leaving.. good-bye!"

      but ofcourse I know he wouldn't say that.. :( he is too much of a di-bhakt! :(

      what I DO NOT WANT - people sympathizing with anjali saying her condition was very najook, hence she could have easily been deluded into thinking shyam is innocent and absolving her off her guilt..

      what I dont get is how will dadi and BFTP come into picture here..

      from today's episode one thing is clear ... its a race of what will happen first -

      1. ArHi wedding
      2. Truth abt shyam and snji still secretly meeting and shyam's plan
      3. truth about the past

      hmm...can't deny, it IS bulding up the suspense..I just hope its not a complete anti-climax..

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    3. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM

      UJ,

      I still think, this is a bit of a muck up by the CVs....today they ended up maing her look hypocritical when that was not the intention...IMO, they always wanted to make her a woman who cannot handle crises...who always wants everything to be perfect in her world...cant take confrontation of any kind..

      I wish the CVs had spent a little time just after the Shyam slapgate showing Anji's man ki dasha....her volteface after Arnav's confession to Anji about K needed better naration...

      Her dharm sankat is not being shown properly...she wants Arnav and Shyam both in her life..she wants Arnav to be happy with Khushi (she still thinks or is delusional that its all a stupid MU) and she wants to be happy with Shyam...but does not know how to make all that happen..so she is choosing this be-happy-in this stolen world she has now created with Shyam.

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    4. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      anjali is one confusing woman.... cant say if she is delusional, a hypocrite, grey or just plain stupid!

      i guess all she needs is for chotey and shyam to be with her.... together.. she hasnt figured out the how part yet... she is just trying to find a balance...

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    5. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:50 PM

      girls you are sooo kind towards anjali .. :P if I were to find a woman like her around me...worse, if she was related to me, then I would, with pretty much haq, first like to slap her real hard to get her to her sense..and then attempt any kind of sane talk with her.. :P just for my personal satisfaction.. :P

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    6. Aarthi RamaniAugust 22, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      Can't agree with you UJ, am most happy with Anji tilting towards grey whether delusional or not, the her very reason to doubt her bro who has done so much for her, itself is good enough ,
      Anji did lose my respect from the day of dhamka and suicide attempt at the hospital.
      Rekhs making anji look like she can't handle crisis and hence waving between shyam and arnav is what they were showing, but her line of arnav MUing did the harm..
      It was as like Arnav is delusional in love with Khushi and can't see clearly, if so then why she want's him to get married to khushi, not only that she is happy about it..
      that's the hypocrite which has come out.. if they wanted to show anji still not convinced with arnav's decision then they should not have shown her happy and chirpy teasing bitwa...

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    7. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:02 PM

      Mads,
      its not about being kind to her..yaar...
      I have maintained from the start that Anji needs medical help...there is no other go...
      No one in their sane state can act like her..unless they have ulterior motives..
      So, if the CVs don't intend to make her go black, this is the time to show she has lost it....well for me she has....

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    8. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 5:20 PM

      you know, Rekhs, when she offered that cup of tea to shyam.. for a minute there, I was hoping they would show nobody there and that she is achizophrenic.. :P now THAT would have given her my sympathy.. but nope, they can't show that.. tooo much NAYI SOCH for them.. :P already they cannot handle the medical aspects of paralysis and diabetes..and to add shizophrenia to that.. very soon it would have turned into a mystery revolving around diseases than ArHi's dark past.. :P

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    9. UJAugust 22, 2012 at 5:26 PM

      Aaru

      I hope you meant you agree with me coz that's what I was saying as well that am glad she is grey and that I could never sympathise with her from the first day of dhamaka....

      Hope i am not MUing you :)

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    10. Aarthi RamaniAugust 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      Opps missed a word UJ, Nope you are not Muing me,

      I should have typed can't agree more with you UJ,
      my hand is still a problem,

      and like your take on the Arhi scene !!!

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    11. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 6:30 PM

      Am i the only one here who is saying that CVs are intending to say that Anji needs help...but have gone about it the wrong way...by not putting in her thot process

      else how do we read her actions from that day when Arnav confesses to Anji about K

      her talk with K on RB,
      her teasing Arnav while sitting with NK
      her tears on the day of roka,
      her running around distributing sweets and all the other incidents

      contrast that with her clandestine meetings/sms with Shyamu and her calm happiness chatting with her VLR....

      1) Is she setting up trap for VLR?NO
      2) Is she setting up trap for Khushi? does not appear to be so
      3) Is she going crazy in her bid for her perfect world? Doesn't really appear to be so...becos her signs of mental imbalance are not clear/apparent in her actions...
      4)Is DB a very poor actress?

      So who is Anji?

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    12. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

      Sorry...girls for sounding like a broken record on that Anji-Shyam scene...I had ignored Anji's weird behaviour for long...aaj mere patience ka dam break ho gaya...sorry for spamming...

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  9. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Mads,

    So what exactly is Anji.....hypocritical, delusional...??? CVs i hope u have written this well in ur mind.......

    If she is delusional...her response is way off.....she is actually aware that she is doing things behind people's bac and not exactly comfortable with it....
    if she is doing this becos she thinks its all a huge misunderstanding, even then her response around Arnav and Khuhsi is way off
    if she is hypocritical, the responses seem ok.....

    But is that what the CVs intend?

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  10. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    Girls, please explain this scene to me...

    Khushi looks at DM and says he is doing this for me super confidently..
    then Payal comes in and tells her that Arnav is doing all this for her
    She almost incredulously says " for me! or for me? and says i must also do something for him....
    She goes to him and narrates the birds incident...

    Did nt follow the link...can anyone explain pleej?

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    1. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      neither did i... that "humare liye?" was not needed... instead a reaffirmation to self "haan humare liye.. tho humhe bhi unke liye kuch karna chahiye" would have made more sense...

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    2. AnonymousAugust 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

      wen she said to DM she was having her own private convo kike btw frnz bt wen payal said the same thing to her she actually thot abt it and realised how much arnav changed for her and so that look and the need to do something for him. she reminded him of the bird scene to acknowledge wat he's done for her and also tell him that she had always known he has a heart of gold..

      that's wat i think..

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    3. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      rekhs...I had the same Q.. I think she knows he did it for her and is very much proud abt it too..at that moment, its just one of those sweet things your man does for you and you feel glad about it..are not at all in the state to band bajao it to the world.. but when she realised that payal also knows the same, she realises the extent to which this man has gone..soo much that even the others know this now.. that's when it touched her the most.. it was a very simple and subtle moment though..

      am I making sense?? :S

      well, if I am not, convince yourself by saying that it was bad editing and forget the payal-khushi dialogue ever happened.. :P

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    4. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

      well, if I am not, convince yourself by saying that it was bad editing and forget the payal-khushi dialogue ever happened.. :P

      Rofl!!

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    5. Aarthi RamaniAugust 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM

      neither did I rekhs, but I think she was just joking with DM that bitwa was doing it for her, hence her wink. but when payal confrims that he actual did it for her then, she feels she needs to do something for him, but how ? the only way she can do is tell him that she knowns his other side which nobody else knowns and that his scerets are with her for ever. Maybe some symbolisim..
      Need Sandy here to decode that..
      Twine its been so much time.. the days when am free you are not..

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    6. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:48 PM

      Hey Krish thks...Anon..thks to u too..(wl be happy if u could provide a name...even an alias will do

      I agree with u krish...they could have amended the lines to that....

      Anon, ur view also is an extension of what Krish says...makes better sense now......"heart of gold" - I wish they had better dialogues for that scene...

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    7. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      u r welcome :)

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    8. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:07 PM

      you what girls ... I feel so sorry for payal .... her face literally glows everytime she sees her Jhetji doing stuffs for her little sister with so much haq.

      I think I am the only one to whom everything about todays episode makes sense ... neither here nor at IF seems to be happy even with ArHi ... aisa kyoun?? :(

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    9. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM

      arhi... am super happy with them... their relationship has matured loads... their comfort level with each other now rivals with BS and SI... and i loved todays epi caoz the pace slowed down a bit...

      the cvs probably boarded that chutne vali train now... and are stabilizing the pace... even y'day was slow compared to day before...

      i felt a bit bad for dadi though... she is becoming a third wheel... an option from a priority... nobody addresses her unless they absolutely have to.. even y'day akash took buaji away from her....

      today arnav dint even bothe to raise upto her taunts!!

      and akash is slowly but firmly growing a spine.. he is getting more screen space than HP and thats definitely an improvement...

      i hated anjali... in a good way!!

      so all in all quite a satisfactory epi!

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    10. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      oye Sama.. count me amongst the satisfied souls!!! :))) I am sooo happy abt everything that came up today.. :)) ArHi were cherry on top ofcourse.. :))

      but I am just ranting the usual stuff.. :P because this space allows me to, that's it..

      otherwise, I loved the epi.. infact I am loving this entire track, to be honest.. yes, it is being rushed, it has loopholes, but atleast there's a story to it.. so loving it a lot.. :)

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    11. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

      and yes, I felt exactly the same for Payal too.. :) poor girl! :(

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    12. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:55 PM

      nahin re Sama...I have no problems with the epi.

      My comments were more about the Shyamu-Anji scene....That scene needed a better background work..thats my point....

      we always knew Anji was meeting Shyamu...who else can she meet..but when it was confirmed....the last vestiges of doubt about who she is must have gone away from viewer mind..but has that scene resolved it completely....

      To me, she looked very hypocritical but i know that is not the intention of CVs....I am not holding a flag for Anji...i am simply saying that for this story, a black Anji would never have been intended....so i had a small rant about how they handled Anji after the Shyamu slap....if fan hysterics was the cause..my sympathies with the PH...

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  11. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    since nobody is here... i'll give update today!!

    continuing from y'day... garima catches a glimpse of dadi standing behind her and makes her exit (others still praying devoutly)... akash sees gaima leaving, tries to stop he.. but too late. khushi calls up garima (oh, now she has phone???) garima gives the excuse of having forgotten to notify the nurse abt shashi's medicine, and has to go home... dadi as usual taunts her, buaji tries to pacify but of no use.

    once done with garima dadi finds another excuse to scold khushi. she accuses he of making arnav come here, to meet her. when khushi said it wasnt herr intentions, nani suppports her. dadi interupts her tellin, she may be old, but she understands these things quite well. mami comes to dadi's aid "aur nahi tho kya, aapne humari dadi ko fool samajhke rakha hai kya??"

    payal notifies khushi that arnav is standing outside, nea the car... khushi moves out of everybody's ear shot, just when arnav calls. he enquires if the puja is over and that can she come and meet him.. khushi is annoyed that he came... she tells him that dadi has misunderstood her, she thinks khushi made arnav come here... arnav rubbishes it telling, what dadi thinks is immaterial to him... khushi denies telling it mattes to her... and before he could reply tells him to calm down and not get angry.. atleast not today, when she has come to DM to get permission for her wedding... citing it as a rasam... these days, the word rasam works like a taboo on arnav.... the moment he heard the word, all other thoughts fly out of his mid, the only dominant thought is to make khushi happy. so he makes his way into the temple, to eveybody's complete astonishment and dadi's dismay..

    khushi's jaw drop open... he justifies his action telling its a rasam... he needs to be there to fulfill it. nani is overjoyed... she makes both of them stand infront of DM ... khushi guides him thu all the rituals.. she even teaches him to fold his hands in namaste infront of DM as a sign of prayer. an ultra cute scene.. where khushi silently prays, with eyes closed and a brilliant smile on face, arnav watches her lovingly, her infectious smile is copied by him.. and he closes his eyes in contentment...

    khushi's cute talk with DM where she tells her that finally arnav came into the temple. but dear DM dnt get excited, he is dng all this only for me.

    nani make a comment abt how anji wud have been happy seeing chotey here yada yada...

    payal reminds khushi that arnav is doing all these fo her sake... and khushi feels she must do something for him, for he has done so much for her... when arnav turns to look at her, she tells him she knew long back that one day he would come into the temple... arnav raises his eyebrows.. you did? she eminds him of the day he bought all the mannat pigeons for the sake of the little girl... she says she knew then that one day he will come into the temple.... arnavs is confused fo a moment and then realisation dawns on him... a 360 of y'day's ring exchange.

    while returning, dadi agin taunts garima... she says she is not even willing not meet he... everybody is speechless.. arnav tired of all the drama wants to leave...

    anjali make hp leave... shyam and anji meet at RM... if they are meeting now, where did she go before? shyam lauds her presence of mind fo finding such a suitable situation for them to meet... shyam wants only rani sahiba and rajkumari.. is tired of all chupke chupke chori chori meetings... anji feels the same.. if only eveything was like the way it was before.. if only chotey would understand.... if only everybody would know that everything was a big MU

    precap garima leaving town...

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  12. Aarthi RamaniAugust 22, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    Dam Anjali Jha how could you do this your chote and your family...Although am happy that VRL is back in full form.

    Hmmm Garima clears one more hurdle of meeting dadi..
    Loved that DM has given her blessings, so hell may come Arhi are going get married.

    Mads about Arnav not defending K about garima is because he is fedup with DD and her jabs.
    Even I think DD and shyam entry are mutually exclusive as of now. but think either NK or HP will find shyam with anji mostly likely HP because he is one who will not let it out till asked.
    or Bitwa or NK find some clue w.r.t shyam...

    From the precap it seems that garima is feeling off to aryurvedic center with shashiji..
    SN does shashiji know about Garima's past, or why would he agree with missing his daughters marriage... not that he has any say in it...

    Why do I have a feeling that after garima leaves, K is going to be sad and bitwa is going to get garima back as a wedding surprise and hell will break lose. on one side the blast from the past and on other side Di ka dhooka.. hence all the truth out after the pheras.. so that bitwa has his khushi to support .. maybe there are emotional seperation for some time.. but seeing bitwa going into peetal bartan, she would be there for him, they both fight against shyam and DD
    bitwa against shyam and khushi against the past -DD.

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  13. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    SN - although I LOVEEDDDDDDD the mandir scenes (it was my most awaited shiddat) WT* is bitwa acting as if he has NEVER gone in a mandir in his entire life???!! :P I mean, I always thought that he believed in God before but circumstances forced him not to.. but today I felt as though he was always a non-believer in such things, hence never gone in a mandir before in his entire life..

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    1. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM

      Mads, its a bit of both...he may have been a believer in his younger days...and that belief is what one has becos of elders, they tell u things and u go along...he may never have built on it becos of life's rough ride..in fact he may have turned anti-faith then.
      if u are referring to the "teerth" scene, that was purely to show that Khushi effect on Arnav

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    2. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:56 PM

      mads he was true to his character ... he was literally forced to take the thal or prasad which used to be mostly mithai by his Di.

      this is first .... he was 14 when he stopped believing in God and at 14 whether you believe or not is not even a question.

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    3. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      Rekhs and Sama, I agree... from what you are saying rekhs, that at the age of 14, you hardly learn what your faith is and mostly follow elders.. so m sure, with dadi being the strongly religious person, the malliks would have been religious from the beginning with the endless pujas.. so he surely knows how to pray and to take teerth from a pandit, right? :S I mean, although I loved that bit, found that slightly unreal.. or did he simply forget what it is like to be in a mandir after all these yrs of staying away from them??

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    4. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      yup sahi jawab ... lock kiya jaye :D :D

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    5. AnonymousAugust 23, 2012 at 12:55 AM

      I somehow like the characterisation of ASR as a non-believer - would prefer him to stay that way...He came to the temple because it made Khushi happy, he bought the little girl pigeons because it made the child happy and gave her hope.

      Plato said - the ability to entertain an idea without accepting it is the sign of an educated mind..

      There is an innate core strength required to be able to respect other people's beliefs without feeling like you are transgressing your own..

      And I would hate for that strength to be broken to a point where he has to bow down to Devi Maiyya - so I do hope the CVs do not take that route ...

      I am an ardent Devi bhakt myself - she is my confidante- so I totally relate to Khushi's conversations with DM ..but I also respect the non-believers who do not need that confidante...ASR is ASR as he believes in writing his destiny - and that is not a bad thing...for God's sake :)

      Sri

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  14. AnonymousAugust 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Who stitches SI's clothes..that was one ugly fitted outfit. Not only the sleeves but the front. I feel SI has put on some weight, although she still looks gorgeous, I felt she was too skinny earlier. Earlier when she was thin like a stick, those ill fitted anarkalis just looked loose, but now they just have very poor fitting. Please PH di is always so so ravishing, please pay attention to your leading lady here.
    So many tracks are playing simultaneously, that I have no clue how the story will unfold. I hope CVs have this written right, otherwise it will be a chaos, hard to follow.
    I dont understand how Di's betrayal and past will play together. They both are contradictory. I mean one will bring Arhi closer and the other can cause Arhi separation.
    More than getting pissed at Di, I pity her. She is one hell of a dumb woman. Someone, who is spending her bro's hard earned money on her useless hubby.
    And I just feel sad for Arnav. I hope Khushi is by his side when Di's kartoot comes out, otherwise it will really suck to be Arnav.

    Sukhi


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  15. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    atta girl anjali you make me proud. exactly what I expected of you. you take hypocrisy to another level. take a bow. even dadi will be ashamed of you .... now that's saying something!!!

    awwww man I wanted to give Arnav a tight hug and khushi too cause his pain his her pain. his laugh really is cursed.

    he is going to lose his mother all over again but khushi has all taken care off. she has already asked the divine mother to take care of him.

    when ArHi is happy my IPK world his happy.

    "DM aap zyada muskyraiye mat yeh sirf hamare liye ayein hain" aaawwww the smiling teasing khushi with her DM is back.

    (I hope cvs prove me right here ... for me this hurried track for some reason is to get the strong khushi back ... only after her respect is restore can she be that caus ecvs have damaged her a lot. that can happen when she rightfully accepts her as Mrs. ASR. I know ArHi dreamland much but that will be the best thing of all rushed stuffs.)

    "Permission milgaya" aaawwww

    "Humein bhi inke liye kuch karna chahiye" *blush*
    pappi jhappi ... inka pasand kiya huwa saree ... kya karengi aap!!

    Dare you think of doing some self sacrificing act Di ke liye ... BG ka DAAANNNNDDDAAAAAAA parega otherwise!!!

    I love how haq se khushi said "humein farq padta hai" yeh huwi na to be Mrs. ASR wali baat. Shabash!!!

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    1. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      u know when she said "humhe bhi kuch karna hoga inke liye" and she moves in a dream like trance towrds him... i thought she will go hug him and give him his long awaited kiss!!! but no... all she could think of was those pigeons!!!

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    2. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      aiyyo krish .... mandir mein hadh hai expectation ki ladki :D ... ICU mein admit karna padta dono ko .... her for being so brave and him for this to be happening in a mandir that to. :)))))

      nah I thought only of a reassuring smile but that FB was a bonus :D

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    3. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 5:01 PM

      umm... i forgot it was a mandir!!! *ducks*



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    4. madsAugust 22, 2012 at 5:01 PM

      krish yaar...DM mandir hain.. yahan gutter thoughts bhi allowed nahi hain, forget a kiss!! :P

      SN - I was hoping exactly as you though.. :P :P *high five*

      I think she will either kiss him (on the cheek ofcourse) or wear the saree he gifted her, for him..

      OR, go all the way to meet him secretly, after haldi, for him.. if he can believe in rituals for her, she can bend a few rituals for him.. :)) everything is fair in love and love.. :)) I for one, would LOVEEE to see that and would love to see Payaash arranging the meet..as a return of the favour ArHi did on new years eve for them.. :)

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    5. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

      trust me.. a lot of ppl would have thot like us *winks*.

      i want her to wear the saree he gifted, go and meet him secretly and kiss him!! *SHIDDAT*

      with payaash and NK helping them :)

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    6. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM

      did i cover eveything??

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    7. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      oh yes you did krish *thumbs up*

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    8. AnanyaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:54 PM

      Ditto Krish!

      Even I thought that she would give him a kiss becoz this is what ODB had been trying and longing for...(*winks)

      Add my shiddat also to your shiddat!


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    9. SuAugust 22, 2012 at 6:26 PM

      Krish, ditto here on that kiss thought!
      And I thought I must have been crazy to think that.
      I am not thinking clearly now, but what was the purpose of that dialogue by her? What did she 'do for him' after that dialogue?
      May be I need to rewatch.

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  16. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    is arnav an atheist or a religious person tuned into a non believer coz of his past??

    i could even accept the teerth scene.. but does khushi needs to show him how to stand in prayer position in front of DM?? they teach that in school, for gods sake... also has arnav forgotten his poojali sister??? after being around her for so long, she must surely know how to fold his hands!!

    even the teerth part.. he may be a non believe, but he would been pat of all these rituals coz of his sis!! no??

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    1. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM

      well he wanted to do it perfectly and he din't know what comes after what as he din't have time to google :))))

      as I said in my post above he was dragged by Di for each and everything and he has never really prayed just stood their and looked at nothingness or affectionately towards Di that's it!

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    2. UnknownAugust 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM

      well he wanted to do it perfectly and he din't know what comes after what as he din't have time to google :))))


      this i can agree :)

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  17. UJAugust 22, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    That day ASR brought a smile to a little girl's face who was worried about her father's health. All she wanted was to free a bird because she believed that would grant her wish of seeing her father well. ASR placed his trust in that little girl's belief and brought her the birds. ASR might not have believed in the act himself but he placed his trust in that little girl and gave her the means to free the birds....

    Khushi saw him do it for the little girl and although she might not have fully realised then but surely realises now that ASR is a believer it's just that he has lost his faith due to the dark past.

    That day he did it for a ajnabi little girl today he is doing it for her. He was a believer that day for having placed his truth in her while today he has placed it in khushi and her faith.

    Humein pata tha aap aayenge....

    That day i saw the belief in your eyes but today I not only see it in your eyes but even understand. My faith is enough for both of us, you just keep your faith in me and the goodness of the world....

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  18. SuAugust 22, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Honestly, today was like a filler episode for me. Monday was good, Tuesday was better and Wednesday decently average. Why am I feeling like this? I did not have much Arhi expectations for today, but I did expect Garima might initiate that talk today. Is that why the epi failed to evoke any great emotions?
    Or did I get hypnotized by that yellow suit?(Seriously, I feel like a total nut case today*giggles*)
    I have 2 kostens today.
    1. Should I or Should I not like that yellow suit? I mean, it confuses me, but I couldn’t take my eyes off it for one second! Really can’t make up my mind. It looks really good from some angles, but sometimes I hate it! One thing I have to mention though, I liked the half sleeve. Now, that makes it a new fashion, since the similar ones I’ve seen so far have all been on full sleeve and this fabric is better than the net materials.That’s it. I hope I can ignore it tomorrow and concentrate on the actors.
    2. I hope this one atleast sounds like a sensile kosten.
    ‘IF’ Garima tells Khushi the full truth, will she share the secret with ASR or is Garima going to extract a promise of silence from her? I ask this because Khushi had made a promise long time back to self and Shyam that she will not keep any secrets from Arnavji. Does it hold good for Garima’s secret?
    Personally, I’ll be very happy if she sticks to her original decision. I want her to tell ASR.

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    1. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

      Su -
      1 - let me give it a try - the suit - i think the colours were nice but whoever the designer is loves to use too many types of fabric that ruins the end product - i mean lace with velvet with a gold foil like cloth!! she is a person (a beautiful one at that) not a toffee!!! - spare her please.

      2 - i doubt Garima will tell ODG anything - she will just run away making some lame excuse (Shshi will probably be the excuse so KKG will not be able to argue) - but no she will not tell ODG anything -
      and as things are now between ODG&B - the CVs will not (read should not) show any more communication gaps between them! - after all - the past few weeks have all been about them communicating and listening to each other - they will not now stop that two way talk!

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    2. SuAugust 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

      Mona,
      'she is a person (a beautiful one at that) not a toffee!!! '
      *rofl*

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    3. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 8:05 PM

      Sans stylist managed to make her arms look fat (San is a slim girl with skinny arms) Ab kya boloon !!!!

      ROFL ... Toffee !!

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    4. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM

      mona, tu kab se voh toffee wrapper ke peeche pada hain.. in fact, i have a dull feeling at the back of my head that the sleeves were cut off from the dress that khushi wore on raksha bandhan morning.

      and i remember, gargi once told us that there is no dress stylist.. the production house just does bulk purchases and use an in-house tailor.

      conversely, ASR gets the old aviators and cravat back because of IF demands.. there is no one to tell the director, what to buy for KKGSR.. and sanaya wears anything, as long as it is not too garish(she once said that in an interview).

      to answer the sensible question, if garima tells khushi the truth and asks ODG to keep quiet, do you think she will? depends on what the truth is. if it affects arnav's happiness, sure she will stay quiet.. if not, then no hope. at least, thats what i think..

      and since the CVs spend so much time and energy building up the suspense, let them have the happiness of revealing it to us in a way they see fit.. (by the way, CT, the shyamu suspense was such an anticlimax that it was too boring.. we were like, "get on with it already"

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    5. AnanyaAugust 23, 2012 at 9:20 AM

      Exactly Jaya, even I felt that the sleeves looked like a 'cut & paste' work from her RB suite....and they gave me eeeks! Embroidery gave an impression of centipedes crawling on her arms...the canary yellow colour was nice especially with that dupatta...but the colour or the lack of it on the sleeves was a total misfit.

      K has worn many beautiful suits in the past e.g. on mehndi, haldi, RB etc. Why doesn't she puts her foot down to be experimented like this? If DB can be given beautiful sarees why can't she be?

      I am following 'Teri meri love stories'. The stories lack the intensity but I love its glamour quotient. I simply loved the outfits worn by Shilpa Anand and Anita Hasnandani.

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  19. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    And we slow down once again - Sama i totally agree that every thing made perfect sense - but was a tad bit too slow for me today

    Can someone please tell me why cant Dadi just call Garima or better still - go see her pic from the Payash wedding album - (we know that exists!) - i mean in this day and age do you have to 'meet a person' to recognize her?
    Also to be fair - any person whose grandson is getting married would want to meet the girls parents - and that bit is not surprising - so i guess that's why no one is defending Garima out loud anymore - after all minus the taunts, dadi's point is valid (ofcourse had requested instead of demanded, am pretty sure Akash or ASR would have done the needful!)

    Nothing spectacular in today's epi - but one big movement - TQ&TF... no i don't think Anji is grey and or delusional (as in the psychotic sense) - she is plain "blind in love" - And i knew TF will not blame KKG for anything coz TQ knows ASR is crazy about wifeee and his (TF's)wife loves her brother - so he takes the simple route out - "the Anji = the ostrich route" - lets not go into the details - lets not question - just accept that your dear brother "misunderstood me" - simple - From TQ's POV - so what if there is evidence or not, so what if we can look into the evidence or not, so what if payal too is anti TF - i just need to know that everyone around me is perfect - no one is bad - they just have a misunderstanding at this point and time and that too will soon be sorted! period!!!
    But really cant forgive her for allowing TF to come into ODB's home! even if she did it coz TF asked her too - she should have respected her brother enough to have said no! - what i mean is - she wants to meet him - her stupid business BUT to meet him in ODB'd house - disgusting!! (ofc we knew that already but just to stste the obvious!)

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    1. SuAugust 22, 2012 at 7:06 PM

      Mona,
      We seem to agree on Anjali today.
      Even I felt Anji is not grey. She is a colourless ostrich!
      I call her colourless and not white because I am still cross with her dumb ass thinking or lack of it!
      If Garima just runs away without telling K the truth she is another dumb woman.
      I am sympathetic towards pregnant clingy women who have lost their husbands recently and harassed troubled mother cum sister with a painful past- ostriches and runaway deers I have no patience for. Wake up! Stand up! Be a proud woman! Whatever your situation be, face it bravely.

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    2. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

      Mona...u have given a super idea of the photo album...no one thot of it including the Cvs...

      seriously much ado about nothing....kab tak bagegi..Garima...

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    3. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:19 PM

      for that if you at the walls of GH they have a big photo frame of G family right where buaji and Anjali was talking ... As Dadi was on searching spree wonder why she din't see it and and and she did go to GH all by herself why not now??

      Is it the case of wanting to meet but then again rather not be proved right hence its ok if its delayed cause she knows that no matter what happened or appeared in past she (Dadi/Mallik) was/were the wrong party.

      Is this the same reason she has completely stopped stating anything against marriage.

      It may just be as simple as it looks ... Dadi is getting hang of her pota ASR version ... he will do what he wants to, so she rather stay out of it.

      Till stated otherwise I will take what is shown to me :D

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  20. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    will Sandy / Shewtha / Jaya / Opti / Lin and all the others i am missing right now - please say - hazir janaab!!! - we are missing you all :(

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    1. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM

      Ditto Mona !!

      Opti I guess got tired of her post being bloggers diet :(

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    2. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM

      present ma'm!
      though sadly i cannot tune in when at least one of you is awake.. obviously, sometimes real life asks more time than we want to give it..

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    3. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM

      I am here guys, since sunday was unable to access gmail or r& r god knows why and adds to that godjee says bitiya power shutdown bhi enjoy karo...so my presence here equals Akash's dialogues in the past 6m onths:(

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    4. GeetanjaliAugust 23, 2012 at 10:32 AM

      you dint miss me Mona :(

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  21. SuAugust 22, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Should I or should I not:
    Discuss Anji?
    I was angry with Anji today like the rest of you, but I think the reason was different.
    I was angry that she was such a dumb ass!
    I didn't feel she was questioning Chhote's decision, but just brainwashed in to believing that Chhote has MU-ed Shyam- what I had predicted all along.
    I had written many times before that she just wants that perfect world of her and Shyam and Chhote and Khushi together and Shyam will offer her that. It looked like that was what today was leading up to.
    1. Anjali loves Chhote and is genuinely happy for him and Khushi.
    2. Anjali thinks Chhote has sadly MU-ed her dear darling hubby and Khushiji has too.
    3.Shyam might convince her now (by the look in his eyes in that last scene) that he can get her perfect world back by clearing the MU with ASR.
    4. Of course this is never going to happen, so when he gets the opportunity and sees that dadi is already upset with Khushi (when the Garima secret comes out) he will add fuel to fire and heap up allegations on Khushi.
    5. Anjali will be shocked (inconsolable and uncontrollable if she loses her baby too on top of all this)and beg ASR to keep away from Khushi since she has turned out to be two-faced.(Is this what DB meant by her first appeal to the fans when she said she hoped the fans will understand her sisterly affection that will guide her actions- or something like that.

    The sister will try to protect her brother?)

    1. Dadi and Anjali begging him to re-consider.
    2. Shyam back in RM with dadi's blessings and his hands tied after Di's loss.

    Will Arnav go after Khushi or stay back and protect his dumb and blind family from evil Shyam? Will Akash wake up? Will nani support him?

    He will have to go out and join Khushi to uphold her honour.
    This is how my thoughts are going now......
    zzzzzzzz.........
    Sleep tight, girls!

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    1. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

      Su - me wrote the same thing too - Am mad at Anji for being blind! :D - and also that in her perfect world - all are goood people - its just that her brother has MUed her husband!

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    2. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:05 PM

      Su,

      Yes...what u have said is right....i have said the same in a slightly diff way

      The CVs sought to make VLR's entry dramatic but frankly, it did not make any such effect...it was always known she was meeting him...just for the effect of showing VLR in ASR's home, why did they keep Anji muddled thot process from the audience is my question.

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    3. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

      Wahi toh .... that's what I said right at the beginning when blank calls came and she went to meet someone outside the very next day.

      What with this stupid suspense suspense khel when it sums up to nothing. Just show us she is meeting her hubbie. It got the same response as the kidnapper revealing scene. This time even Daiyya Ho Ve could not excite me as much. I love his BG score.

      What I liked it he is playing safe as always ... Its a misunderstanding. I will be very happy if he has cleared khushi in Anjalis eyes too to pave his way in -

      khushi MUed shyaams interactions with her

      shyaam MUed khushis interactions with him

      saale saab MUed jija as he is blindly in love with his wife (easy to do as she started meeting Daiyya Ho after Chote confessed his love and her position in his life)

      payal said bad things about shyaam to protect her sister ... she would too for her Chote ... like she is doing now, taking pain of meeting her husband privately as her Chotes MU is not cleared (yuck)

      NK after all does not know either party hence does not count.

      This will explain Anjalis happiness in Chotes marriage. Shyaam ulterior motive money. Keep bro-sis together and find other ways to separate ArHi.

      Only if cvs din't play suspense suspense they would have been there at the top without any doubt. Its a daily soap not a 3 hours movie that will give me answers at the end. So there should be 75% of the things clear as all of them are complex characters, not the other way round. Except shyaam who is pure evil and does not need any monologue but unfortunately he is the only one who has maximum monologues. It does not go in favour of a daily soap if a question that pop up in my mind like a months so back to be answered now that to in bit that to the very obvious bit.

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  22. LinAugust 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Hi Mona
    Just waiting for the episode to air then I will be back.

    Lin

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    1. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

      good to see u - waiting for your feedback :D

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  23. GargiAugust 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Sorry girls I guess I disagree with all of you ... Felt like giving Anjali a hug today...

    I really wanted Anjali to take this route... She could never go totally grey but delusional works ... Even now she doesn't think Khushi is bad just that she's misunderstood Shyam its Perfect becuse it's totally in character for Anjali

    I know there's been lots of discussion about how he's been in Mandir before and whether he used believe etc but for me it was simply he does not believe. He does not like to be in a Mandir. The big deal was he came on his own, of his own volition because he wanted to .... For her

    I love the sidelong glances in the Mandir very very cute,...and him copying her damn adorable:-)

    Hmm Akash is getting more screen time can I possibly Hope for a bachelors party... Lol

    Also I really can't blame Arnav for not defending Garima ,.. After all she is in the wrong here... She attended everything in Payals wedding and shashi was in the same condition of not worse...

    Hope Khushi actually does something for Arnav... I dunno what but something cute and meaningful like his Mandir entry for her

    As for Shyam - yay!! Sooooo glad he's back.... Because remember your hero is only as awesome as your villain is evil;-)...,

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    1. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 7:48 PM

      but Gargi - thats what Su and i are saying too - Anji is in character - she is not grey - she is just blind ly in love and in her perfect world. no one is bad not even KKG - all thst is wrong is a MU! - (the only thing i cannot forgive her for is allowing TQ inside ASR's house - she should have respected her brothers wishes - even if she thinks he has MUed her husband - she should not forget that it is the brothers house and he supports her in every which way!)

      And i too agree why no one defended Garima - like i said earlier - dadi's demand is justified! - only if she had been polite and not a dictator- everyone would have been saying the same thing too!

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    2. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM

      Bachelors party ... SP ... hmm mushkil hi nahi namumkon hai baccha!

      For your sake I pray that the trio creates a perfect bromance at least discussing it which Nannav should cancel as talking with his biwi overnight will be a better thing to do ... something cute sa :)

      Oh I loved the mandir scene ... she can't stop smiling and he can't either to see her so happy just because be came to mandir for her. he loves his cute si pagal to bits.

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    3. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 10:45 PM

      okay CT, bromance SHIDDAT!
      for pointers, look to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHFU8xDN9FQ

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    4. GargiAugust 23, 2012 at 6:26 AM

      Exactly what I wanted Sama...I mean I know they wont actually have one but it would be fun to watch NK trying to convince Nannav and Akash torn and hesitant and Arnav incredulous and annoyed with NK....

      Lol...and I don't know how this would play out but Payal, Nani and Mami walking in on the three discussing it or some funny situation with Akash running after his three ladies and Arnav getting Annoyed with NK:-)

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  24. SameenAugust 22, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    sorry for a silly question but i am a techno-idiot so i need to know - what is spamming?? *sheepish grin*

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    1. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 8:00 PM

      "Spammers do not follow rules, they don't obey the Adminstraitors or Moderators" Google ki jai ho.

      or in blog language its commenting too many at a time .... something I do without even saying sorry for it like most do here :D

      I bak bak haq se ... much like hamara ASR !!!!

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    2. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 10:28 PM

      spamming is overloading a blog post with comments.. usually irrelevant comments like "buy viagra" or some such.. well.. "spam". just like you may get in your public email accounts.

      sama, Hi5! spamming haq se at the R&R cafe!!

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    3. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

      Hi-5 !!!

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  25. SamaAugust 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Dia hope you reached safely.

    neeneeland calling :)))))))

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  26. AnonymousAugust 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    If Anjali has so much trouble with Arnav, why doesn't she just leave the RM and live with her creepy husband. In the beginning episodes there were talks about Shyam building a new home for Anjali and himself, what happened to that.

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    1. JayaAugust 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM

      Dear anon, if anjali went to live at snake's house, how will snake get the money? he has convinced her that she gets better care at RM.. since he has to take frequent trips as part of work, what if she slips on a slippery handrail and falls down the stairs? there will bw no one to help at jha residence.. so anji has to stay at her maika.

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    2. AnonymousAugust 23, 2012 at 5:51 AM

      Yes, I understand why Anjali is living in RM for so long and also that snake won't get the money. And definitely this will never happen. Even if Anjali decides to leave, ASR won't let it happen.
      All I meant was that Anjali should have at least thought about it for once. In a house where nobody respects her husband and she is concerned that who will love her baby then why stay in there? I mean any wife who believes in the honesty of her husband would think about it. I would have believed in her as a wife more had this occurred to her even if it was never accomplished.

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  27. LinAugust 22, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    The episode was ok, didn't like the dress at all.
    Arnav wants to give,his all,for khushi and whatever makes her happy is fine with him. Khushi has already done so much for him. The last being taken a slap from her mother when defending him. But as she is so good at heart that she will always be there to make his life that little bit easier. He will definitely need khushi's support when he finds out what his sister has been doing behind his back.
    Just a thought, maybe Angi needs to have another word with Khushi!s aunt on the subject of the snake. Not that she will believe anything other than what comes out of her precious husbands mouth. He is the master manipulator. But to deceive her brother like this and to meet in his house is unforgivable. She has a roof over her head and is funded by her brother and yet she is blatantly deceiving him. He will be shattered. That is when khushi will be there for him and I only hope that they will be husband and wife by then.

    Lin

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  28. LinAugust 22, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    Hi Anon
    Arnav knows that the creep is dangerous, but does not know the,depths that he can plunge to for his own greedy needs. Only khushi's dad knows really what he is capable of and as he can't tell anyone.
    The creep also doesn't have his own income that is why he is such a parasite. I don't think that the house they have talked about previously is even habitable, and it also could have been used to hold Arnav when he was kidnapped. I know he works as a lawyer but he has always been funded by his brother in law through his wife.
    If he can help it Arnav will not let Angi leave RM. I personally would throw her out for being so deceitful.

    Lin

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    1. AnonymousAugust 22, 2012 at 9:25 PM

      Yea, i realize that but not for once did Anjali think about leaving the house. I remember when she was trying to kill the baby she said to Arnav that nobody respects her husband in RM then who will love her baby. If that is the case then she should volunteer to leave. After all, she doesn't or rather nobody knows Shyam's real source of finance.

      Arnav will definitely not want her to leave but from Anjali's POV; what is she waiting for?

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    2. AnonymousAugust 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM

      Honestly, I wouldn't live in a place where my husband is not respected (especially when I believe in my husband).

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    3. GeetanjaliAugust 23, 2012 at 11:10 AM

      i think she is torn in-between her husband and her brother.....she wants both, and doesn't consider living in Arnav's house anything bad, cause thats what arnav has been telling her all along, that she is his world....even when he told her bt his feelings for khushi, the first words he said were that she is the most important person in his life, and nothing will change that....so by leaving RM she will be hurting Arnav (her POV)

      but her blaming Arnav about lying, and now lying herself to be with Shyam, is a hypocritical thing, she is doing....

      i think this track is so that Arnav realizes that Anjali for whom he did everything, even sacrificed his and khushi's happiness, back-stabbed him.......that is why he getting to know slowly what all Khushi did for him, even the recent slap by Garima, just for defending Arnav.....that is when Khushi will become the number one priority for him...

      and he will tell Anjali that he cant tolerate Shyam, so if she wants to be with Shyam she is free to go.....and hopefully that will bring Shyam's true face in-front of Anjali......

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    4. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM

      oooooooooo geeta I wish .... I have even imagined that ... ASR standing like a statue ... jesi aap ki marzi Di!!!!!

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    5. GeetanjaliAugust 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM

      lets add our Shiddat to it Sama :)

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  29. LinAugust 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    I don't think it will even enter her head to leave, but you do have a point. If she is not happy and wants to be with hubby then yes, what is she waiting for.

    Lin

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    1. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 11:04 PM

      Interestingly Lin, that aspect has never been touched upon at all in IPK ever....that everyone (excluding Akash family) lives off ASR....

      It is almost accepted that he will provide for Anji all his life..actually i doubt if they will bring it up to....becos Arnav will never think of it that way....so perhaps this will be one of those things that will never be tuched upon...just remain in the periphery for viewers to note....

      Perhaps Anji is not ready to question anything for the fear of what she may discover....the strange part of her nature is she is thinking of all this as an MU....logically how can it be considering the nature of Khushi's accusations...of Shyam being her fiance....either Khushi is lying or Shyam is....or one of them is delusional.....but they have shown Anji to not be ready to face any unpleasantness in her life....this is another blot in her life, she wants to wish away.

      When Arnav asked to not dwell in the past and move on....he meant Shyam chapter as well but Anji was only referring to her childhood memories....
      All in all, a bomb awaits Arnav....it really is difficult being ASR.

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    2. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 6:26 AM

      Rekha, Lin,
      She really did want to leave once. Remember the slip and fall at the staircase Shyam masterminded to prove to her and the rest of RM that she cannot take care of herself.(GH OTT track)

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    3. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM

      Lin she loves her hubby with condition attached, she needs her bro to provide her all the luxury. Agree with su here.

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    4. GeetanjaliAugust 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM

      Rekha, i dont mind Raizada's staying there, as Mami provided the finance for ASR's business with her jewellery and Akash and Mama work alongside ASR, so thats good enough to stay there....

      As for Anjali, initally she dint want to, remember, even in the initial episodes, she had just come over to stay and ASR forced her to stay longer, as Shyam was travelling out of Delhi...

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    5. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM

      She came and never left whatever naybe the reason ... proves again ladkiyon ko maiyke mein zyada din nahi rehna chahiye .... bekar ki musibatein kadhi ho jati hain. ya toh wo khud kartein hain ya toh dusre create karde tein hai ya toh the most unbearable one ... koi kuch nahi karta par socha galat jata hai.

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  30. UJAugust 22, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Humein nahi pata tha ke itna dard aap apne andar daba ke baithe hai lekin jab bhi aap ko jaroorat ho aap hamesha aap ke saath rahenge....

    Soon Arnav is going to need lhushi's support more than ever when Di's truth comes out. When he realises that his sister lied to him. After everything that he did, after him sacrificing his khushi, his love, his smiles and his life. After doing what he did with an innocent soul like khushi, the only woman he ever loved, because of his di. What will the man go through when the truth comes out. Only khushi's support can pull him out of those depths then....

    Anji 'aap humse yaha kyun milna chahte the?'
    Shyam 'apni biwi se ghar per milne mein.... Gunah toe nahi hai'

    Hmmmm.... Why did VLR come to RM? Did he need to change camera angels? Did he need to get something out of RM or get something in RM. there is no one at home except Anji. Anji is dumb and could never see anything wrong with her hubby. While she was preparing tea what was VLR doing in the lounge/hall? Get a feeling he has planted something, some clue for dadi that will bring dadi closer to what happened between Shyam, Khushi and rest of the family.... Ofc dadi will blame khushi and that's exactly what VLR wants....

    DM has given permission for the wedding toe wedding hoke hi rahegi. DM ki kripa se they have started talking to each. The other day she let Arnav know Garima slapped her, today she let him know that dadi thinks she called him to meet her.

    Did he really come to the mandir coz it's a rasam? I felt he came coz he wanted dadi to know he will do anything for including come to the mandir and fold his hands infront of DM. only for her.... ASR ka junoon toe ab shuru hua hai aur iss junoon ki hadh shayad kudh ASR ko bhi nahi pata.... He wants dadi to know it's coz of her and ofc he wants to see that million dollar smile on her face....

    With the bird wala conversation, i think the most important thing she wants to convey is that she knew it then that one day he will come in the temple (unsaid for her). She wants to let him know that she has had that truth in him since then that ine day he will come for her. She has had those unrecognised, unknown tug towards him since then....

    Tumhare vishwas pe vishwas dila diya.... Ye kya kar diya tumne khushi? Mujhe aur kuch nahi chahiye, kuch nahi.....

    Aur wohi hoga shayad, aur nahi milega other than khushi. IMO ASR will find out about the cameras after haldi. The wedding will happen but after the wedding before SR VLR will make an entry and then we have a major blow up....

    Anji - i think she is grey purely because she is not even feeling about lying to chotey, deceiving him. That is enough of a reason to call him grey. She is still blocking out khushi... Her FBs suggest that. She has not really accepted khushi yet but only putting up a facade in front of Arnav. She is genuinely happy for Arnav that he has found love but she still cant accept khushi yet.

    She is not even in love with VLR. it's her need to have her world complete that drives her towards him...

    She created such a drama about arnav lying so he could spend time with khushi when he did not even lie.... She is doing the same now, remains to see how arnav will react.

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    1. RekhaAugust 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM

      UJ,
      there is a world of diff between the Anji before the Arnav conversation on her lap and the Anji after that.....

      I doing the analysis of Anji from that day onwards and while writing it, i am trying to crystalise my thots as well

      1)Before the convo between Arnav and anji, Anji was MUing Arnav/khushi....which tho unpalatable to many was fine from the POV of character, becos she was seeing signs of her bro now putting faith in a person who was perhaps still not worthy of trust in her view....

      2)Then came the volte-face, Arnav assures her that he did everything for her and blah blah and she was all smiles.....

      3)I had difficulty accepting anji from that day but reconciled to what was largely the general view that Anji only wanted re-assurance from her bro that his love for her would never change.

      4)Then they showed an Anji who was over the moon at Arnav's change at RB, along with an acknowledgement of Khushi's role in that change, subtle changes in her demeanour where she had begun hiding things from family and ASR....however, she continued to show signs of recovering from trauma in the midst of family...to the extent of participating very enthusiastically in Arnav_K's remarriage rituals....


      5) what she did today (of calling VLR) was an extension of what she has been doing from the day one perhaps...she has not cut any relations with VLR...she has gone one mile extra by adding the chotte to her perfect world...She is still in a quest for making those two worlds merge as before...she just does not know how.....yes, she has betrayed Arnav's trust.....of that there is no doubt. However this is purely her way of making sure her world remains the same as before.... How far she will go to ensure that her world remains the same is left to be seen....that will determine her real colour...

      Is she grey,black or yellow....not sure..but can say she is need of help.....



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    2. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 6:43 AM

      UJ,
      I loved you discussion on 'Why did VLR come to RM?'. New thought.
      Rekha,
      On your pt1:'becos she was seeing signs of her bro now putting faith in a person who was perhaps still not worthy of trust in her view....'
      NOw I feel Anji never had a problem with Khushi to that extent. I feel the problem then was 1.Did Chhote give a fair trial to Shyam? 2. Did Khushiji MU my husband?- esp since he himself said 'aapke dimaag kharaab hain'- really sounds like she misunderstood him and 'haath dhoke mere peeche padi thi'- sounds like he misunderstood her. Anji cannot exercise her brains beyond this. She wanted to believe everyone- Khushi and Shyam was good then, still does.

      The distance then was because Chhote did not seem to give her emotional support when SHE needed it. He seemed too engrossed with K. Even there she did not hate K, just wondered if her brother had lost all his affection for her. ASR clarified- she was happy- bro loves me, bro is in love, Khushiji has just Mu-ed my hubby and now bro joins her too- if that MU can be cleared we'll be one happy family!

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    3. RekhaAugust 23, 2012 at 10:13 AM

      In which ever case,Anji is weird yaar...i just can't accept any other explanation.....her pea-sized brain can't process info..What MU? Khushi accuses Shyam of being her fiance....

      Either she has to be delusional herself or she has to think K is delusional/lying...varna koi kisiko mangetar batata hain kya?

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    4. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 10:45 AM

      Rekha,
      You answered it here yourself.
      'Either she has to be delusional herself or she has to think K is delusional/lying...varna koi kisiko mangetar batata hain kya?'
      She thinks K is delusional and henceMU-ed Shyam.
      She has a pea- sized brain and hence cannot connect the dots.
      (Do you remember Dia gave us so many examples one day of how some disasters in real life could have been avoided if the parents had bothered to check the facts when they were told by near relatives. She was talking about how no one would've believed Khushi if she came out with all this before itself.

      Even now Anajli cannot believe Khushi because she trusts her own judgement better than Khushi's. Can you blame her for that?

      Don't we all do that?
      If someone told me my husband is having an affair, I'd say " I know him better. YOu must have misunderstood him". And I don't have blind faith like Anjali.

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    5. RekhaAugust 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM

      Su,

      thats where the narrative has to make that clear....i can accept that Anji is thinking that K is delusional....

      but why are they not showing some part of her thot process...it can't be that diffi to write...or is it becos like this mysterious past, they are not sure which way they want to turn Anji's character....

      The way the CVs are going about the past reveation,I have to share that the past of ASR_ fills me with dread not becos it is going to be dreadful but it is going out to a whimper......khoda pahad nikla chuha....

      If its anything like what Doods has written about...i am sorry to say this past is exactly that....a fizzled out fire cracker.....*sorry for the rant*

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    6. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM

      Rekha,
      Doods- I like dood's analyses on current tracks. On her predictions- I am bewildered by her thought process. I simply cannot understand the basis of her twins theory and I have stopped following her. I feel it is a lot of rubbish.(Sorry if someone actually likes those predictions )Anyway, I don't follow IF regularly and don't know what her current theories are.

      I feel the past will be another good surprise like VLR's CCTVs. I mean, it will be a twist and I am looking forward to it.

      On Anji-
      If you remember, right from the beginning I've been saying that she will not turn dark.
      I have a very simple belief that Anjali cannot turn negative in any small way. She is ASR's sister and Khushi's SIL. She will embrace them both with all her heart when the blindfold has been removed. Didn't you all love Anjali until the VLR revelation when she became depressed? I have not watched that far back, but I got the impression she is an out and out white character. Like nani and dadi. Dadi will also come out as white once her 'patti' is removed.

      May be it is this blind faith in the whiteness of these characters that helps me not get confused. Anji has never confused me, except that bit when I thought she was going psychotic, which may have been slightly intended that way.

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    7. RekhaAugust 23, 2012 at 12:30 PM

      Su,

      On doods...i read her mota mota predictions...mini tracks i cant understand......

      On to anji, my current fav trac obsession...sorry girls...

      personally, i not very comfortable with the "oh my world shines brighter becos of my do anmol ratan" kind of philosophy...makes for drama i guess, but not my style....

      i used to like the banter between Anji-Arnav in the start and even her way of telling Arnav that one day love will take centrestage in his life et al...

      But with that i also saw a woman who would use fair means and foul to get her things done(ex: threatening Khushi with the contract when she refused to come back to RM), would use her khop bhavan to effect to get ASR get off his high horse if he ever climbed one...whether she did it intentionally or not, she did it and that did leave a question in my mind...about what she will do to keep her illusions intact.

      Maybe the CVs never intended this but at some level, i never could accept this as a story of a person who had to balance love..(for me, these loves are not comparable hence i hoped there will be a perspective coming in on that issue)

      I thot she will see love make inroads in chotte's life, feel a bit uneasy esp considering the circumstances but in the end, sense like truth will prevail....it still can!!

      I could even accept Anji's blind love or whatever it is that she feels for Shyam and would have happily clapped for her if she had walked out with Shyam that day.

      Accepted she was dazed, but the drama that followed was in my view, the behaviour of a person who if i can't get it by crying, will do by threatening and when even that fails, i will whimper and do some things on the sly but a "I want it my way but i don't have the guts to state it" kind of person...

      So if she is painted tommo as a person only mistaken about Shyam's true colours, i am sorry, it does not cut much ice with me becos i see a more as a person who needs a shake-up....gently or otherwise...

      we will probably disagree about this...kya karen yeh dil hain ki manta nahin....

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  31. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    Quick Epi Analysis:

    Epi was good with the whole cast with something substantial to do

    Charan sparsh happened, Thank you.

    Shyam is back to his old look meaning he is going to play the I am innocent card again and divide the family, Him and Daadi - Looking forward to that combo

    Payal & Akash - Again blended with the track and Akash bitwa got some much needed footage and Dialogues - YIPPPEEE
    (Everytime Akash comes on screen and speaks, I have this reaction - hands in the air and screaming yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I am not kidding)

    I am liking that Payal is back to being the jiji she was

    PRECAP - Sincere advise, make sure from now onwards, precap involves either, or or all of the following:

    Arnav
    Khushi
    Arnav-Khushi
    Arnav-Dadi
    Arnav-Akash-NK
    Payal-Khushi

    Seriously, who gives a damn about Garima's secret now, Garima say Dadi is better for precap purposes.

    *repeat telecastwa warning*

    War Looms Ahead

    We know that, right?

    We have Dadi who is going to bring up the past and the wounds will be cut raw open again.

    We have Shyam who is all poised to re-enter Raizada Mansion (Oh wait, he is already in their store-room which apparently never gets cleanedShocked) armed with his CCTIV footage seen on black and white monitor (financial constraints you see LOL).

    We are also looking at the possibility of Shyam and Dadi joining hands if they are not in this together already and try and separate Arnav Khushi and wreak havoc on the family for revenge/gain control whatever is the twisted motive of these two.

    With the TRP out, it is clear that

    Romance works.
    Drama works.
    Arnav-Khushi staying together works.
    Arnav defending cum supporting Khushi works.
    Family being involved in the happenings works big time.

    Why will Shyam be allowed back in the family?

    Anjali's health reasons.
    Dadi's insistence.
    Anjali's insistence in her present condition.

    Shyam manipulating Anjali into believing Arnav the brother is too preoccupied with his wife to take care of her and the baby and he as the husband and baby will be the best person to do so.

    Now assume Shyam enters, he will worm his way back into Dadi's good books, by convincing that he loves Anjali, the child needs a father and Arnav is the innocent soul who has been bamboozled by Khushi for his wealth (All the above is expected to convince Dadi).

    So now Shyam has Dadi, Anjali on his side.

    Who are left?

    Arnav, Khushi, Payal, NK who will be absolutely against Shyam.

    Which leaves Nani, Mama, Mami, Akash.

    Nani, Mami will be reluctantly accepting Shyam and give him a stern warning to get his act together or else...

    Mama is MIA anyway...so let us unfortunately ignore him Ouch.

    And if he does return, I expect him to side with Arnav and the woman aka Subhadra whom he shares cold vibes with; as he holds her morally responsible for his sister's suicide and also abandoning her kids. We don't know if Mama will connect twice or thrice catching Shyam in unusual circumstances...let us just assume he will support Arnav only.

    Akash what will he do and hence my Akash doing a Trojan horse Scenario:

    Shyam comes starts creating rift, Akash sides with Anjali.

    Arguing that Arnav gave Shyam a chance for the baby and for his Di when it was not his call to make, so Anjali as the wife and mother deserves to give the same chance to Shyam.

    Shyam thinks Akash is on his side, is happy on succeeding in creating a rift between two brothers. Shyam then completely ignores and underestimates Akash and concentrates on Arnav.

    So Akash and Arnav pretend to have a major rift.

    Akash slowly succeeds in showing Anjali the true face of Shyam and how she has misunderstood Arnav.

    And it is revealed that IT was decided between Arnav and Akash that they would pretend to split up just to fool Shyam.

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    1. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM

      Shwetha I have all 3 posts and Akshay Singh Raizada is very appealing aap ke nazroon se :D :D :D

      Only if cvs could get 25% of it.

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  32. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    continued

    Logical questions:

    Why would Shyam believe Akash going against Arnav?

    THAT is the simplest part.

    Arnav Mallik has adopted the name of Raizada and is for all practical purposes treated as the eldest Raizada son. Arnav has the final say in everything as we have seen.

    Now these are the things that can supposedly irritate and annoy Akash and he can share it or act it out infront of Shyam.

    Arnav over ruling him on issues:

    A business project that he is keen to go ahead but Arnav shoots him down.

    They can show and build up on such small incidents to have finally Akash finally go against Arnav.

    Shyam being an expert manipulator will use it to his advantage and Akash will play along.

    So while Aranv wages an open war with Shyam, Akash slowly and steadily exposes Shyam as well as clears the MU between Anjali and Arnav.

    Where does Payal fit in this?

    If Payal supported Akash in her fight against Arnav, Shyam will never buy it.

    So here again Payal and Akash pretend to have a rift.

    While Payal steadies Khushi (who might be reeling under the past revealation and her feelings towards Arnav), Akash will take care of Anjali.

    Arnav will in effect be focused on Shyam and maybe Dadi as his Di and Khushi are in safe hands with Akash and Payal respectively till the truth comes out and the ghosts of the past are laid to rest.

    Akash Singh Raizada was always projected as Bharat-Lakshman combo and with the above he will be able to fulfill his role.

    Bharat - Akash as the guy who takes care of Ayodhya in his brother's absence (in this case Anjali's life) and

    Lakshman as the guy who unconditionally supports his brother (in this case pretending to go against his brother all the while working for him).

    Payal Singh Raizada -

    The sister who stands as a rock supporting Khushi and her husband.

    As a wife - Bharat's wife (who understands clearly Ram aka Arnav is the eldest and if you want to call it the heir) and also as

    Lakshman's wife (who willingly separated from her husband in this case more of an emotional (Pretend) separation just so he can support his brother).

    I sincerely feel that Akash and Payal's character have never been given their due in the show. Akshay and Deepali have been criminally underutilized and they have never been given a proper chance aka track to deliver.

    I hope the above takes care of that. If the writers have something much much better (I have no illusions about my talent as a writerLOL) in mind for Akash and Payal, I am all for it. Big smile

    My DREAM PROMOs

    1.Arnav-Akash confrontation with Shyam gleefully looking on.Day Dreaming

    ( I expect the track to be played for 4 weeks with Audience MUing Akash)

    4 weeks later

    2. Arnav-Akash joining hands and Shyam completely unaware of it.

    (I expect this 4 weeks to be about how openly it is revealed to the audience how Akash worked before and now how he aids Arnav in foiling all Shyam's plans)

    3. Shyam's realizes Akash was with Arnav all along and Akash-Shyam confrontation.Day Dreaming

    I know chances are extremely dim of the above happening, but it would be a great track to watch, don't you all think?

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    1. madsAugust 23, 2012 at 5:37 AM

      Shweths...why arent YOU one of the CVs??!!!

      wanna see ALLLLL of that and much more.. :)))

      strong shiddat to ALLL of the above!!!! :))

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    2. GargiAugust 23, 2012 at 6:35 AM

      "
      Akshay and Deepali have been criminally underutilized and they have never been given a proper chance aka track to deliver.
      "

      Shweths I absolutely agree with you on this but the only problem with this track is it gives Payash too much mileage in turn reducing screen time for Arnav and Khushi and more importantly Anjali and Shyam...

      Personally I don;t mind seeing less Arhi if they have 5-7 minutes of really nice scenes but when their time is reduced invariably Anjali -Shyam (Who are technically second leads) get the screen space...

      Frankly would like to see some more Akash and Arnav interaction and some more Payal- Akash interaction....why can't they have a conversation? like just a regular gossip-y , can you believe what all is happening? kind of conversation

      And yes I wouldn't mind there being some Make believe MU between Arnav-Akash...These Raizada's I tell you ... one is Di- bhakt the other is Bhai- Bhakt ...bechaari Gupta sisters...lol

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    3. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 6:48 AM

      Shwetha,
      This is my dream track too! Did not dream in such detail.
      If ASR has to leave RM for Khushi, can he leave Akash in charge of the house with all the pretend MUs and promos you just described? LOVED YOUR PROMOS!

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    4. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 7:05 AM

      Gargi: This show lacks a strong parallel track right. That is what I have laid above...I have mentioned 4 weeks for this precise reason.

      See 30% exclusinve arhi scenes
      30& Arnav & khushi's individual scenes with other people.
      total so far 60% right?

      Rest 40%..of which 20% you take shyam and anjali and Shyam's talking to self and twitching,

      20% CAN Be devoted to the above track with Either Akash/Payal or Payash scenes or something.

      So it is more of a parallel track than the main track.

      Su: The question is will he leave leaving his family especially his Di? So the war has to happen in RM only. Let us see, besides, They don't have money to shoot simultaneously in both the sets,grrrrr.

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    5. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM

      Shweths

      Very well written post. Hope the track works out this way. Would love to see more involvement from Akash and payal surely.... What has always surprised me is Akash or Payal have never askes Arnav or khushi about the KN. cannot comprehend not asking you brother or sister about such a big event in their life.... So at least with the return of VLR Akash and Payal will be shown more proactive and sensitive to their sibblings....

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    6. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      Shwetha,

      'The question is will he leave leaving his family especially his Di?':

      My speculation:

      If Arhi has to separate(which I believe will happen before the wedding), Khushi wil be in a bigger soup than Anji. Anji also will be in soup if VLR manages to make her lose that baby. Anji will hold on to Shyam and ASR will have to relent. The Q is, won't he have to go for Khushi then, to restore her honour? I feel Dadi and Shyam will not allow Arhi to live together in RM at least for now. Will ASR let Khushi go for the sake of his family?

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    7. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 9:54 AM

      Su, I think marriage will happen and Khushi will come to know the truth post marriage. And since we still don't know what the truth will be, we have to wait.

      Also on the day of the roka, when he saw Anjali attending to guests, he was concerned was about to take a step in her direction and then looked at Khushi and then stopped.

      So effectively he will always chose Khushi over Anjali

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    8. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM

      Su

      ''akash, di aur (nanhi) khushi ka khyal rakha'
      Bubbly's family photo without ASR and khushi and ofc Payal cut out....
      Khushi 'DM aap jyada khush mat hoiye, yeh sirf hamare liye aaye hai'
      Arnav 'mil gayee permission, ab toe khushi ho na'
      Payal 'khushi tum janati ho naa, Arnavji ueh sab tumhare liye kar rahe hai'
      During janmashtami pooja, Arnav looking at khushi when the song plays 'har khushi har gum tujse' while khushi looks at him 'vaade aur karam tujhe'
      Roka song, arnav looks no stares at khushi 'todh de saare bandhan tu, machne payal ka shor'

      Can't see ASR and khushi separating now.... IMO ASR will walk out with khushi after Anji insists that all is a big MU and how her hubby is innocent and Arnav realises that Anji has been lying all this while to meet creepwa....

      Di aapki khushi ke liye apni khushi kurbaan kar dunga...

      Di ki khushi - having her hubby back.
      Arnav ki khushi - not bring Shyam back to RM, see his sister happy and live with khushi and R happy happily ever after.

      So for di ki khushi arnav will allow shyam in RM which makes his di happy with leave with khushi....

      Ofc this is just opinion. It never works the way I think it would.... *sigh*

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    9. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 10:32 AM

      UJ,

      'Can't see ASR and khushi separating now.... IMO ASR will walk out with khushi after Anji insists that all is a big MU and how her hubby is innocent and Arnav realises that Anji has been lying all this while to meet creepwa.... ':

      Exactly what we all feel. Arhi will not separate for long.
      Before or after wedding- I don't know. Whichever way is fine.

      "Arnav realises that Anji has been lying all this while to meet creepwa....": I really want to see how strong is the bro- sis bond here.I think the sis- bro bond is as strong as the bro-sis bond. Right now Anjali sides with Shyam because she does not know what harm he is planning on Khushi.And sadly, this time dadi- garima will twist it further and who knows what other missile is awaiting K.
      Anji will never be able to see throuh VLR in this mess and will again end up being MU-ed as selfish.

      "It never works the way I think it would.... *sigh*" :
      Ditto dear.

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    10. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM

      Su

      I don't think Anji will be MUrd as selfish. In fact i think to a certain extend she is selfish. It's her need for a perfect happy family that is driving the events right from the beginning.

      During La track, it was her selfish attitude towards khushi that made khushi come back to RM. she did not eant chotey to leave with La and although Anji knew ehat had transpired at the guest house she blackmailed khushi into taking up the job at RM.... Do you not think that was selfish on her part?

      She has manipulated chotey for yhings like coming to pooja and havaans? Why? She knows he does not believe in them then why drag him? Just because SHE WANTS the entire family present?

      Again when A and K got married on that dreaded night, she accepted their marriage because chotey threatened to leave home with khushi.... She just wanted a happy family and so she accepted their wedding and fulfilled all rasams thereafter....

      I fail to remember one incidence when she went out of her way to do something for her chotey but remember too many instances when chotey went out of the way....

      I am not saying she is malicious at all but she is definitely not as innocent or sweet as she looks. In fact her sweetness is so sugary that I am not surprised poor Arnav is diabetic.,.

      Both khushi and Anji can be called sweet but khushi's sweetness is innocent and naive, Anji's sweetness is smothering and manipulative....

      I guess I am the only one who is completely anti Anji today.... Have always been...

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    11. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 12:00 PM

      UJ,
      'It's her need for a perfect happy family that is driving the events':
      Doesn't that family include ASR and Khushi too?
      I mean, is that not what we are seeing in this wedding track? She is forgetting all her worries and taking time out to even tease Chhote because it was a long cherished dream of hers. And she is not enjoying these chori chupke meeting either.

      "I fail to remember one incidence when she went out of her way to do something for her chotey but remember too many instances when chotey went out of the way....":
      Simply because ASR has not given her an opportunity to. It was not required till now.
      Anjali going out of her way to bring Chhote and Khushi together- Button sewing- Wasn't that a very sweet gesture- purely unselfish?

      'I guess I am the only one who is completely anti Anji today':
      UJ, I really hope I am not troubling you today. It is just that the Anji- bashing gang seems to be absent today. Usually I am the only one supporting her.
      *hugs* forgive me if I am irritating you.

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  33. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Mine was the 100th comment, yayyyyyyy!!

    Oh the marathon post continues, why do I write so much, yikes.

    Pointers:

    Why haven't Guptas once asked Khushi or Payal, where is Shyam?

    Why haven't the Raizadas' once asked Gupta, why you never told us about Shyam?

    Why haven't Guptas at-least tried to apologize for keeping mum about Shyam?

    Where is Mama?

    Mama's Only sister's Son is getting married and the family is not even mentioning or remembering him?

    Why isn't Arnav remembering Mama at-least considering he took Anjali and Arnav in and his wife aka Mami sold her jewels just so he can start off his business?

    Why isn't an emotional moment shared by the family on Arnav finally getting married and seeing the old happy Arnav back?

    Since they are revisiting their moments can we have Arnav confess that after throwing her out of the car, he came looking for her and saw her whole suicide and Chakki peesing act and khushi realizes it was indeed his presence she felt and his car she saw that day.

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    1. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 6:51 AM

      Shwetha,
      I dare not ask so many questions because I know these Qs have no answers. But someone really should mention something about mama or get a phone call from him. At least one Q less!

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  34. AnonymousAugust 23, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    I somehow like the characterisation of ASR as a non-believer - would prefer him to stay that way...He came to the temple because it made Khushi happy, he bought the little girl pigeons because it made the child happy and gave her hope.

    Plato said - the ability to entertain an idea without accepting it is the sign of an educated mind..

    There is an innate core strength required to be able to respect other people's beliefs without feeling like you are transgressing your own..

    And I would hate for that strength to be broken to a point where he has to bow down to Devi Maiyya - so I do hope the CVs do not take that route ...

    I am an ardent Devi bhakt myself - she is my confidante- so I totally relate to Khushi's conversations with DM ..but I also respect the non-believers who do not need that confidante...ASR is ASR as he believes in writing his destiny - and that is not a bad thing...for God's sake :)

    Sri

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    1. GargiAugust 23, 2012 at 6:18 AM

      I totally agree with you Sri. I like that he came in and is willing go through the motions for HER or HIS FAMILY but I'd like him to stay a non believer ... Its not about changing him its about doing rings for each other....

      Also why I want Khushi to do something for him which she may not necessarily believe in or like but is willing to because he likes it...

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    2. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 6:56 AM

      When Khushi was forced to get married to Arnav, she fought with DM and did not speak to her again. Somehow this is how I have always perceived Arnav to be.

      A young boy who fought with DM when he lost his mom, dad even, his sister's marriage got called off and he got thrown off. As far as he was concerned, His mom and Di and the family were DM bhakts, so how could she let it happen to them.

      And hence his silent treatment to DM continues. Having said that he is more of a spiritual kind than a ritualistic kind, the one who believes in doing the correct thing than all the poojas. So they did manage to keep that balance nicely here.

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    3. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 8:42 AM

      Shweths

      Agree with you that ASR's silent treatment with DM continues. He sure is not ritualistic perhaps never was but spritual yes..... Not being ritualistic not not make one a non brliever it just makes them an unconventional believer....

      Once all the demons of the past and VLR is dealth with ASR's faith IMO will be restored. Again i am not saying he will start going to temple and do pooja and havaan and stuff, he will aleays be unconventional believer.... But vishwas per vishwas toe aa hi gaya hai....

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    4. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 9:51 AM

      Yup, UJ..he will take part in the poojas, might take aashirwaad from DM and all but will not be obsessed with Rituals and rasams as Anjali is.

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    5. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

      Great take Sri and I think this is the first time in TV that they have voiced that its ok if he does not believe in these things as he loves and respects his dear ones so much and he is doing exactly that :D

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  35. madsAugust 23, 2012 at 5:35 AM

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/article3798079.ece

    here we are..complaining how pathetic khushi's clothes are.. and there are actually some people out there, who wanna buy those very clothes!!! Hayye re nandkisore!!!

    no wonder the stylists are lazy and don't give a damn about her clothes.. whatever crap she wears is being sold off.. :S

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    1. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 6:55 AM

      *LOL* I really hope they are not mass producing any of those velvet ones. If it is like the pink one she wore when she left RM with buaji, I don't mind.

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    2. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 7:01 AM

      *head desk*

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    3. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

      WHAT THE !!!! RIDICULOUS !!!

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  36. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 7:00 AM

    Rekha,
    I asked the same question when Anji was talking to walls and curtains and plants. Wasn't it obvious that she was talking to Shyam, and what was the great suspense there?
    However, I did not ask that question yesterday. Do you know why?
    1. Mads has written above that for a split second she thought Anji is schizophrenic. Guess what? I had the same thought too for a fleeting momen. Me- who has been supporting Anjali and trying to get into Shyam’s and Anjali’s thought process- even I was fooled for a second there! It really was a giggleworthy moment when the cup was grabbed by a very smiling reassuring Shyam. Ulloo bana diya yaar, CVs ne! How can I not laugh at their sense of humour! They were playing mindgames here.

    (And they did manage to confuse atleast some of us back then too. Opti remembered Kartik calling Kartik and I was reminded of Ginny Weasley.)

    2. I feel :this was not the suspense moment. The suspense moment of Shyam’s entry is over with the CCTV shot when he made his re- entry with daiya ho. Yesterday was just to show that he may not remain hidden after all, he WILL appear in person in RM in front of ASR(Another Q I’ve been asking for a long time. I hope I am right in this interpretation.).

    3. This will be another explanation which I hope is atleast slightly acceptable. Abhaas was not shooting then. The only scene where he was there was with Anji- mami. Anji- ASR- terrace, he was not there. They did not show Anji- Khushi- tree and Anji- restaurant. This means Abhaas was not available for shooting those days and it was very convenient to just not show him at all.

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    1. ShwethaAugust 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM

      Rekhs, 3 is correct. Abhaas was shooting for random scenes and hence only the above scenes were shown.

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    2. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      Arreh AM was not there to shoot toh kya huwa make Anjali talk one way letting us know she is talking with her KP (though we din't need it)... Again why create a faltu ka suspense when cvs never head for any dhamakedar dhamaka. Always a tie tie phissss feelings comes.

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  37. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Gargi Mona

    On Anji, I disagree with you guys. I think a person need not be malicious to be grey. A nin malicious act done for self benefit is grey enough. In her quest for a perfect, happily ever after world, Anji is blatantly lying not just to her family but also to her loving doting brother. Never once has she stopped to think what will happen to this brother when he finds out she lued to him.

    In the worst of the situations, on that deadful night when arnav MUed Khushi, he did not lie to Anji. He gave her the truth which did not hear in the first attempt and yhen he just hid the truth. Lie he did not. Agra trip cancellrd and ASR came home and was accussed of lying. Lie he did not and clearly rxplained what happened. Yes he chose to reveal only little truth and he revealed it in a way that would make Anji secure again but lie he did not.

    He has never lied to his family, hidden yes. So at least for me I don't understand Anji's need to lie. If she thinks everything is a big MU then more so a reason not to lie to meet your husband isn't it? If you believe your husband has been MUed, you don't lie you stand by him. You try to ask right questions to prove his innocence.

    Anji has always manipulated ASR. Earlier it was for small things but now it's to meet her hubby. She is happy to even forget that her husband was accussed of KNing her chotey, chotey she claims to live so much....

    And if Anji is really delusional then i am afraid DB or CVs have not potrayed her delusion well enough. Why does the delusion happen only when he is around? How cum she is abs normal with the rest of the family. Never even stops to think about Shyam or intospect or re-live memories FBs with Shyam????

    I could never sympathise with her and now toe out of question to sympathise with her....

    Sorry did not mean to rant.... Just that Anji makes me cringe.... VLR se expected hai to play tricks but Anji.... 'ghar ka bhedi lanka dhaye'

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  38. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    UJ,
    I feel Anjali is lying only because she truly believes they are all white lies. She really truly believes Shyam has been MU-ed by Khushi and ASR.
    "If you believe your husband has been MUed, you don't lie you stand by him. You try to ask right questions to prove his innocence.":
    Didn't she ask nani, "kaun sach bol raha hai?"?
    Didn't she ask Chhote, "Can you make it alright for US- meaning the 4 of us?"?
    1.Anjali was confused and shocked with the VLR revelation.
    2. Her grief pushed her to go for an abortion.
    3. She tried to pick up her life from there.
    4. Turned to brother for support- wondered if he will be there for her now.
    5. Was reassured by Chhote- already VLR made re-entry with phone calls.
    6. Accepted gladly that K got her bro to wear the kurta for RB and thanked her.
    7. Started living a lie by meeting Shyam behind everyone's backs: Why? Because she is not convinced of his villainy.
    8. Dadi made re-entry - another emotional upheaval.
    9. Dadi Q-ed Chote's marriage- backed her brother and started taking part in the joyful celebrations. During roka, she was shown to be genuinely happy .
    10.Why doesn't she bring up this Q about her husband's innocence. Yes, high time now.
    I feel she is going to do that soon. Even if she doesn't, Shyam is going to bring things to that.
    Isn't that what happened yesterday? She is thinking about a way to clear the MU between hubby and bro- and Shyam seems to be ready to supplement her with ideas in the very near future.

    'Never even stops to think about Shyam or intospect or re-live memories FBs with Shyam????':

    I'll agree with you fully that Anjali has not been shown that extensively, in fact, she seems to have been forgotten by the CVs with dadi's entry. But she did have 'some' fbs of happy times with hubby at the beginning of the track. Right now the CVs are too busy with Arhi romance,Shyam and dadi.They NEGLECTED Anjali's characterisation.(Are they upset with DB?) She still gets the best sarees, though!

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    1. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 10:17 AM

      Wanted to add:

      Anjali is
      Plain dumb.At first I wondered how ASR could have a sister like this. Till I was reminded of how he himself was blind to glaring discreptancies in 'Shyam- Khushi affair' theory. I mean, how could he MU her after that hospital hug and the way she genuinely helped Lavanya to get accepted for his sake. NOt going there, but he did inherit a lit bit of that 'blindness' gene.

      I feel she is not a master manipulator.
      Small small manipulations- even Khushi has done that to ASR many times in the past(last Janmashtami, Sangeet etc.).That does not mean she will manipulate in a way that will hurt someone else.

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    2. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM

      Su

      What forgive me and all ya.... I don't take offence that easy and definitely not for a fictional soap and even less so for Anji.... So please please don't even say things like forgive me and all.

      And yes you are right I am so missing Dia for my support against Anji *winks*

      Dia

      Hope you reached ur destination safely. Have a good time!!!!

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    3. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 1:41 PM

      *winks* You got It! Deadly! *LOL*
      Dia,
      Hope you are having a good time. Missing you.
      My first thought on opening the blog today:
      You are a truly wonderful person to already open up the post for thurs even though you are jet lagged, so that we can go on bak bak like this in your absence.*hugs*

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    4. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

      UJ I can try give you support but that would be more like DB thing than Anjali ... ROFL

      Su they are upset or not with DB is not the issue but PH had to cool fans against DB hence taking the focus away from Anjali till they made it very clear that ArHi is in this together.

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  39. madsAugust 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3161071

    interesting post! :)

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    1. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 2:25 PM

      Mads,
      Yes. Interesting.TRUE.
      And unfair.
      ANY ONE will pale in comparison to Khushi.
      Wish someone'd do a comparison between Garima and Anjali.
      I am bugged with these two right now.

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    2. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM

      Really liked that Khushi treated like rag doll bit. CUTE post.

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    3. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      Glass Doll vs Rag Doll. Interesting it describes the 2 characters beautifully!!!!

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  40. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Rekha,

    From above...
    ‘if she is painted tommo as a person only mistaken about Shyam's true colours, ‘:

    I am not saying she is an angel. ( I meant white and white in terms of no jealousy issues with Khushi)
    She has other issues.
    She has low self esteem.That is why ASR shields her all the time.
    She is blind when it comes to Shyam.
    She has the habit of sweeping unhappy past under the carpet and is too weak a character to face things.
    (That is the best thing about IPK- no one is perfect, not even khushi.)

    But I never felt she is manipulative to the extent of threatening her dear bro with her life to get something.
    That abortion attempt was not an act. It was her extreme reaction once she came out of her dazed state. Just like people attempt suicide sometimes in rage and self pity, sometimes as attention seeking. I think where we differ probably is that I believe it was the former and you feel it is the latter.
    Now I understand what Gul meant by Anjali will be unpredictable (Or something like that). She is a complex character with a lot of complex. But did Gul intend for her to be hated so much?


    ‘a story of a person who had to balance love’:
    I don’t believe this either.
    It is not sweet Khushi Vs manipulative Di. NEVER.
    If it was, wouldn’t they have promoed it during this track?
    "Arnav kisko chunegaa" or something like that.
    What are you saying?


    (btw,"Arnav kisko chunegaa" might happen in the future in a totally different context. If so,I hope it is not the 'balancing' thing)

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    1. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 2:56 PM

      trust me Su .... Anjali would not have been hated if not for DB media stunt right at the point when peoples patient only to see ArHi together at last .... their awkwardness, their acceptance, their support for eachother and moreover the exploring the new found name to the relationship - love. It did happen ... we saw exactly that .... a total understanding between the two no matter how much KKGSR wanted to sacrifice or ASR wanted to win her. while all these were happening in ArHi world DB had already gone out with stupid things like "I am missing the bro-sis bond" "I am considering other shows" "I was promised to be the lead of the show". It was like a clear message to audience that I will stay if they make Anjali the main character over khushi who is the left, right and center of her brothers life.

      I have no idea what DB's intent was but fans panicked. DKS took a totally unpalatable meaning which was at all not the case. It was suppose to be about a brother whos love of life is the other woman in Di life, not intended but that's how thing was. Like Dia named it it was more giving the flavour of Didi Bani Saut than DKS. IPK also took the wrath of Sanaya fans.

      Audience could not enjoy the beautiful ArHi moments whenever they saw Anjali because its not actually Anjali they saw .... it was more like cursing DB. For all fury she created in ArHi fans din't let cvs to carry on with anything to its fullest because everything involved Anjali in the story at the moment and every week TRP would come out and some changes went by till they incorporated Dadi for Dis bidding.

      Now that people have settled and stupid DB has learned her lesson I suppose as she started sporting a bump now .... they are again going to take off from where they started diluting Di case. Now people will not term it DKS (in bad sense anymore) as message have been clearly given by cvs that ArHi is in this together, don't you worry.

      Yes they rushed to reach their goal and made a kichdi of a lot of beautiful points in ArHis life in last 3 weeks (including this one) which they are not going to get back.

      Damage have been done no matter what DB does now to make Anjali lovable it just won't be the same again. For now she will be hated/disliked/misunderstood not for the character but the actor till comes a point where Anjali throws Shyaam out of her/their life for her Chote.

      Too long again.

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    2. SuAugust 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      Sama,
      You are right. I guess I escaped this because I didn't read any of those. Only the Akshay- DB iv that you gave the link for. The rest I read it in R&R only.
      "I was promised to be the lead of the show": Did she really say this?
      *head desk*

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  41. UJAugust 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    Su

    I guess we are at loggerheads about Anji. I just cant seem to see the white side of her. Again I repeat i am not saying she means malice or destruction but manipulative she is... To what extent remains to be seen....

    I also agree with Rekha to a certain extent from the above post. Although i don't think she is delusional. She is just compulsive wanting to complete her world.

    Khushi- she accepts khushi purely because of chotey for the fear of chotey leaving house like he threatened during La times and after the A and K forced marriage.

    As far as ASR not giving chance To Anji to show her selfless love is concerned I think she has had more than one. After the KN has she ever asked him how and when did it happen? Is he alright? In turn khushi and Arnav having gone through the trauma for 6 months of forced marriage, KN and realisation of feelings are still supporting her in every way shape and form....

    Sorry Su nothing convinces me of Anji today. I see her only has weak and manipulative person sponging off her brother. Not just her sponging off but even allowing her hubby to do the same....

    I really hope I am proven wrong for ASR's sake....

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    1. RekhaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

      UJ,


      Delusional or not,compulsive or not (these are variations n a way)the CVs have to explain....becos if she is
      not any of this...she is not just grey...she is tones darker....becos on what grounds does anyone explain her saccharine sweetness, her apparent happiness at Chotte's love for K that ummdaoing in front of her eyes...

      thats why i said, i hope the CVs know what they have written. from hereon, Anji can only be grey or dumbass or needing med help...if she comes out of this smelling like roses...i will think that maybe even pigs can fly....

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  42. SamaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Do we continue from here or we move to the next post????

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    1. RekhaAugust 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

      Girls, we will use up this post until it is 200..just putting it as a marker - will go on to the next post after 30 odd posts

      EPI 236 Discussions 1st page....

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  43. Aarthi RamaniAugust 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM

    what was today episode..
    So bauji knowns about garima's past and is willing to go along with her NK to come forward and do the needful..
    Or i would love bitwa to get amma and bauji at the time of muharat as his suprise...
    Again as i said before ..bua who always taunted Khushi as orphan is going to do everything for her as her mother.
    hmm so anji's health paves a way to VRL entry. So what are these meds. they are making her weak?? so they change the meds and shyam will not know about the changed ones thus getting one more failed plans into his ever growing list. Why no bitwa today???
    Shwets Akash did have more today..
    So mehendi and good bharahi on the same day? did DD initiate this to get shyam in RM or Garima??

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