Thursday, August 16, 2012

16/8 - Epi 321 ... The Shadows Lengthen

Thursday 16th August

The Shadows of the Past lengthen ... will they cast a gloom over the Future?

Phone call at night ... wow, shiddat granted! So soon! :)
The long awaited apology from Arnav ... starting from the first meeting, throwing her down from the first floor, the accusations about Shyam and his refusal to believe her, and the way she repaid all the hurt only with love and care, even risking her own life ...
SN - I was glad they remembered that Arnav had been kidnapped at all, the way everyone seems to have developed complete amnesia about that part! ;)

And Khushi doesn't need the words, because his love is enough ... dammit :) And one more hug ...

Okay scene ... felt there should have much more regret and angst in Arnav's eyes and his words ... it seemed the cv's wanted to get this out of the way and done with before moving on ... :(

And we move on to the new track full steam ahead ... Garima worried and scared ... no, petrified ... what will happen now? Already one daughter has been given into that family, and now the second one too? And how can she allow it to happen?
Is Garima against this marriage then? Or merely worried about the shadows from the past overshadowing the future?
Cute - the way Buaji and Garima teased Khushi about Arnav's visit :">

Dadi still in the sulks, now with a new peeve ... Khushi's family and upbringing is not good, Buaji was rude to her ... well, lady, you weren't the epitome of politeness yourself, were you? And Nani defends Khushi and her family strongly, and lets out Khushi's parents' names ... Shashi and Garima ...
Dadi stops in her tracks ... visibly disturbed, she moves out of the room ...
Dadi's eyes showed a wistfulness, a momentary softness ... before she hardened again ... did I imagine that? What was that all about?

Anjali NK tease Arnav ... Anjali seems completely back to her normal self, all excited about the wedding and her Chotey being in love, sleepy NK is quite happy to join in :)
Loved the way Arnav bitwa enters the house with a smile on his face ... quite happy after his night rendezvous with his biwi :) and continues to be amused at NK's Hinglish ... bitwa is sure in a good mood now!
Anjali is taking some mysterious medicines ... mood elevators? Or sedatives, to make sure she sleeps soundly while her KP creeps around at night?

Arnav hears more argument between Nani Dadi, this time all about Garima ... Dadi wants to meet Garima, she makes some typical Dadi-style excuse about how the ladkivalas haven't even come to pay their obeisance yet to the queen ... Arnav, fed up, says he'll take her to meet Garima there and then ... he doesn't need much persuading to visit GH any time of day or night :)) And calls Khushi to tell her he's coming.
Dadi agrees promptly. And continues with inquiries about Khushi's family ... and learns that Khushi is an orphan, adopted by Garima and Shashi, Garima is her maasi. Is Dadi relieved?

Garima goes into panic mode at the thought of Dadi's visit and wonders what she should do. Buaji wonders at her worry. Khushi decides to do something.

Garima is the link from the past all right ... is she the other woman? From the precap, Dadi did not meet Garima at night ... Did Khushi call Arnav and put off the visit? Or did Dadi decide to postpone it herself after she learned that Garima was not in fact Khushi's mother?

Random thought - Arnav tells Dadi he knows all about Khushi's family. How come Dadi or the rest of the Raizada family are not in the least bit worried about Shyam's family, or lack of it? 

The plot thickens ...

Thoughts - these days I don't have much time, so will skip episode updates for thoughts ... will update episodes when I get the time. :)


What I liked – Khushi picks up the phone and doesn’t bother with ‘hi hello’ … neither does Arnav. Such a typical husband-wife thing … straight into conversation … showing the comfort level these two now share. :">
Question ... did Arnav apparate into Khushi's room? :))
 
That compliment ... you look good in white, and with open hair ... :"> and Khushi's matter-of-fact acceptance ... did you call to tell me that? Hey bhagwan, ek toh this man takes forever to get romantic, and when he does, he gets no encouragement at all! :))

The look of apprehension in Khushi’s eyes when Arnav says he has something serious to discuss … scared as to what is going to come … scared to trust that things are finally going well …

The little gulp before Arnav talks about his MU about Shyam-Khushi affair, as though it hurts even now to remember what he thought back then, and what he felt …

The way Arnav takes Khushi’s hand in both of his … as though for a proposal … :">

Khushi cupping Arnav’s face … the ‘dammit’ after a little pause :"> … telling him she knows he loves her, but is unable to say the words, except under gunpoint or in extreme temper … telling him in other words that she understands him completely, and loves him, warts and all …:"> :)

The shy smile on Khushi’s face, the teasing by Buaji, Buaji is obviously so delighted that her niece is so much in love and so happy … 
The worried look on Garima’s face caught in a dilemma … to speak and risk cancelling the wedding when her second daughter is also head over heels in love, and her husband obviously reciprocates completely … in those few seconds, all three actors were excellent. So much conveyed in so little time, especially the contrast between Buaji and Garima. 

The slight smile on Arnav’s face when he re-enters RM … that night meeting with Khushi obviously did his mood a lot of good. :) Also liked the teasing by NK-Anjali … ignoring Anjali’s bipolar disorder and temporary amnesia for the moment … is her KP sneaking her happy pills? :))

Aap sawal karenge aur hum jawab denge .., is this an indication that Arnav is finally going to start questioning the past? 

What I didn’t like … Barun is a fantastic actor, and his biggest strength is his eyes, he talks through his eyes. Today the expressions were just not there … the scene was again far too rushed, not enough time was given for the emotions to seep in fully … again one of the most significant scenes in Arhi’s journey … a 360 of the first ‘Sorry’ … will post the link when I find it … What a difference in the eyes between that day and today!!! :(
Why are the cv’s rushing through the ArHi scenes?! Especially all the significant ones?! :( X( 

The trip fall and catch was just not needed … this couple is way beyond all these contrived clichéd clinches now. They don’t need them. That’s for hormonal teens … can the writers think beyond them to really mature romance now? 

The hug at the end … would it have killed you to show Arhi coming out of the hug and facing each other as though finally getting their first kiss? You don’t need to show any awkward angles, any trick shots … just show them come close and fade out. I remember a similar scene in MJHT where this was done … no need for any trick shots at all, just the suggestion and the expression was enough. That would also have explained Khushi’s shyness as Buaji and Garima teased her, and Arnav’s smile as he entered RM. 

The rest of the episode was all about the shadows of the past gathering force to burst open on the present … 

Interesting points from yesterday and today … Garima is petrified of facing Dadi, but not adamant on cancelling the wedding, just wondering  how she can let Khushi get married into the same family, and worried that Payal is already married into it. Also yesterday, when Arnav insisted that he would return today at 10 with the shagun, Garima seemed relieved, as though happy that the past would not repeat in this instance. So the possibility of Khushi being a sibling, or even half-sibling, seems remote.

Garima is sure Dadi will recognize her. And it seems she is right. Dadi remembers Garima from the past very clearly, and once she hears the name, is in all-fired hurry to meet her right away … the tantrum about Garima not coming to meet her was geared to achieve that. She forgot her peeves about Khushi in the more important question of meeting her family, especially Garima. Her questions to Arnav about Khushi’s family were geared to get all the information she wanted.

Arnav recounting the story of Khushi being an orphan and her parentage seems to satisfy Dadi that her suspicions about Garima being the Garima she thinks are well-founded, and she has more ammunition to cancel the wedding. Her stopping Arnav from going with them for the shagun is a clear indication that she’s ready to fire the next volley. Again indicating that Khushi can’t be Arnav’s sibling because if she was, Arnav accompanying or not, would not make a difference, in fact, it would help her case if Arnav heard that. Marriage would be out of the question then. 

So an affair between Arnav’s father and Khushi’s mother also seems less likely … Dadi knows Arnav worshipped his mother … wouldn’t hearing that Khushi’s mom was the ‘other woman’ who wrecked his family put him off Khushi? Or had Dadi not thought that far ahead, and is first bent on proving her own suspicions right?

It seems more likely that Garima herself was the ‘other woman’ … or protected her and/or Arnav’s father. But where does Khushi then come into the equation? 
Dadi's first reaction on hearing Garima's name was not the same reaction as when she mentions the 'other woman'. That was an expression of loathing. Garima's name elicited a much softer expression, almost pain ... and confusion ... humein sochna padega ... followed by that remark about her family history ... her entire focus shifted to finding out about Garima.
Humen bhi tasalli hogi unki maa se milkar ... 

What was that from Anjali about pills for 'prevention'? Was VLR's night visit to deliver his wife's happy pills? To keep her smiling and child-like? Are there any pills that can make a person revert to childhood? Why haven't I heard of such pills?
Too many kwostins ... Anjali makes my head ache :( 

Arnav tells Dadi Khushi's story ... Dadi's reaction is strange - yeh kahani pakki hai?
Meaning - are you sure of your facts?
What did Arnav say? - Khushi is an orphan - check. (like me ... aww, so true, both are orphans even though surrounded by family, real or adopted, yet neither has quite gotten over that loss of losing their own parents).
Garima is Payal's real mom ... is she? Which would mean Garima has been married to Shashi for over twenty years.
But Garima is not Payal's real mother, she married Shashi, a widower with a daughter, just ten/fourteen years ago (no. of years uncertain, cv's have forgotten). So she was single when the haadsa took place. Khushi's mom was obviously married, though.
Shashi and Garima adopted Khushi when her parents died in a car crash ... half check ... Garima adopted Khushi, and after that married Shashi.
Khushi's parents died in a car crash - check.

Garima is hiding something from Dadi ... is it information about the other woman? And a child? Arnav's father is obviously dead, so not him. Unless that is another googly. 

Did I sign up for a love story or a mystery suspense thriller? :-o :)) 
No matter ... I'm enjoying this! :)




80 comments:

  1. Wow I'm really kicked about this track now... Loving DD reentry:-)

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    1. Gargs

      looks like Raaz 4 in making... but loving this track.. although I hated all the Raaz movies...

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    2. What is Raaz 4?

      Gautam and Janaki are back...I told na...they were writing for the show but their names was deliberately hidden.

      The last few weeks the way the loops have been closed, No one knows these characters better than Gautam.

      Ofcourse he cannot write nice romance for long...So itna hi milega...He thinks thoda sa romance will be like music video.

      Unfortunately he does not understand stupid RV is not Romance....convos, small things are.

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    3. Shwets the raaz of the past is making this track go like the original Raaz movie...

      yes I did notice that janaki and Gautam are back lots of loophole are getting closed..

      yep Gautam has to understand that romance isn't the RV and eye locks, simple convo is what will make them different.

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    4. I actually cringed when TFC happened, I was Oh man Giny & Johny sudhar jao...

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    5. Oh lord, I'm glad I wasn't the only one! When will the writers realise these TFC's are completely passe for this couple?! The new mantra is TALK ... good sensible meaningful conversation ... and of course, our long awaited shiddat ... CHAI under the STARS !!!

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    6. trip, fall and catch...hope m right girls

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  2. oh my my thats my ASR style of saying sorry.. loved it .. and liked the little nok jhok of bua and NK and anjali..

    OMG the blast from the past seems to be a pretty bomb blast... So whats Garima's role here...After hearing from Arnav about Khushi, Garima being her masi what will she chal she is going to play.. Why do I have a feeling that she will let it out after the marriage before the SR... because that will be biggest blow for the gupta's .
    I just hope that Khushi's mom isn't the "other women"..

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    1. What if Garima is the other woman, ewwwwwwwwww and Shashi married her knowing the truth but cannot say anything because of his con di ti on.

      ewwwwwwwww...

      I would have preferred if that the other woman was a friend of Garimas and Garima had fought for her friend.

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  3. Quick update for those who are travelling:)

    Arnav reaches Khushi's home realizes he cannot disturb her family at night and decides to apparate straight into her bedroom...There is no other explanation cos she was blocking the window and the door was locked.

    The much awaited apology happens from the day he first met her, locked her up, the way he humiliated her in his office and forcefully marrying her even when she insisted she had nothing to do with Shyam.

    I am sorry Khushi for every single time I hurt you, she tells him you do not have to say sorry as I know how much you love me dammit.

    They hug and ............duh Do not even kiss...Ek cheek ya forehead kiss toh banta tha boss.

    He drives home to find Anjali and NK waiting to tease him...rather his BD...An average scene.

    Nani and Dadi are preparing for the shagun next day. Dadi lies saying Bua insulted her and Arnav is marrying the wrong girl.

    Nani corrects her and tells her Khushi is a very good girl from a very good family and has done so much for the family.

    She mentions her family and also mentions Garima.

    Dadi gets shocked and storms off

    At home after Arnav leaves, Bua teases Khushi.Earlier Garima is praying to god as to how she can get khushi into the same family and she cannot share what she is feeling with anyone.

    BFTP.........Gets more exciting.

    Arnav takes Anjali to her room, she starts coughing and is supposed to be taking some mysterious medicine. They talk, he says goodnight and comes out only to overhear Dadi & Nani arguing again.

    Dadi starts her I hate khushi and her family rant and says how come her parents have not even come to meet her.

    Arnav gets irritated and tells her Shashi has paralytic attack. Dadi says then why couldn't Garima come and meet me

    Arnav who is this close to losing it, says FINE. LET us go, I will take you and you can meet Garima Aunty.

    He calls up Khushi and tells her he and Dadi are coming.

    When khushi mentions the late hour, he tells he will not have his Dadi insulting her family and they are just coming over.

    Khushi tells Garima and Bua. Bua grumbles about the late night. Garima panicks big time, Buaji assures her why is she worried as Arnav is also coming with her, he will take care of everything.

    As Arnav and Dadi come down the stairs, Dadi starts her rant that he does not anything about Khushi's family history.

    Arnav gritting his teeth explains, I know what I need to know about her, I love her.

    And she is an orphan just like me, she was adoped by Shashi and Garima and Payal is their real daughter.

    Dadi seems relieved.

    Epi ends.

    Precap: Everyone is getting around, Bitwa comes down looking nice in a suit and Dadi stops him telling For shagun, bridegroom usually does not go.

    Also at Gupta House, Buaji tells Garima, With Dadi out to create problems, let us make sure there are no goof ups. Garima looks very very tensed.
    That is all.

    My kostin: Is shyam lurking around?

    Has shyam started the career of medicine delivery boy?

    Akash went for the shagun for his marriage, why not Arnav. Dia Explainiya pleej.

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    2. Akash went for the shagun for his marriage, why not Arnav. Dia Explainiya pleej.

      Last first ... because Nani is a liberal minded lady, who is indulgent towards her grandkids and their romance. While Dadi is a takiyanusi old hag, who will follow rituals as though they are set in stone, without understanding an iota of the emotion or meaning behind them.

      Shweths, I also felt that Dadi was relieved when she heard that Khushi was not Garima's daughter.

      Also I felt that hearing Garima's name the first time disturbed her a lot ... and the second rant to Nani and Arnav about family not coming to meet her, was more a ploy to meet Garima as soon as possible. If tomorrow we see that she called off the night visit herself, then I think it will be more obvious - after hearing that Khushi was not Garima's real daughter.

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    3. But Dia, Nani dint let Akash see Payal's mehendi, so if there was a rasam like the groom shudnt attend the shagun function, m sure she wudnt have let akash come along...

      i agree with u bt Dadi relieved, me too felt the same....infact when Dadi's eyes softened upon hearing of Garima, also Garima was worried bt that Khandaan, so my thoughts were that Malliks are the only guilty party, Garima is just scared to let out the truth, but she isnt guilty at all....

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    4. If all of you are seeing it at as a sign of relief on dadi's face, maybe I interpreted it wrong. It appeared to me as if dadi is pleased to find another ammunition to add to the fire.
      I wud prefer to be wrong here.

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    5. On re-watch I agree with Ananya , it seemed Dadi was satisfied that she has found another weapon to attack with, and her attempt to stop Arnav from coming for the shagun might be for that reason ... she doesn't want him around to spike her guns. Hopefully he is on to her now and will manage to be there somehow.

      I hate the cvs! Can't they let us enjoy the wedding in peace without wondering what this hag is going to be doing to stop it at every step?! :(((

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    6. for my part i am really happy that its not a sickly sweet elongated wedding show - loved that the CVs are keeping us on the edge - during Payash's wedding - KKG and family was hiding the TF truth - now the mother is again hiding some other truth..

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  4. Why is Dadi stopping from attending the shagun. Akash did.

    Will arnav will be able to over rule her this time. or in his absence some dhamaaka will happen.

    Wanna bet, the epi is going to end on Dadi and garima's shocked faces, grrrrrrr

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  5. I was more happy for Gargi, Shwetha and Dia's shiddats being realized .... manga aur hazir.

    Couldn't they chuck out Anjali from the teasing scene and have akash their (lo BG humnein bhi bol diya!). She and her pyaar .. total blah.

    Best part of sorry was face cupping, I wanted this sorry to beat the previous sorry. Well too tall an order when they not wasting time on important thing like changing frame ... chalo chado. But yes loved the style ... true ASR way ... bol diya so bol diya. Aur e lo khushiji ko words chahiye hi nahi the ... hum khamaka uske taraf se pareshan ho rahe the.

    "kyoun ke aap humse bohot pyaar karte hain, dammit" aaawwwwwwww

    Buaji is too cute &loved Nani defending khushi, those were almost the words I had in my mind :D

    So Dadi won't go to meet Garima at night anymore after the story which from her expressions seems to be false. Did khushi ever inform Arnav that Garima is her maasi or in the show was it ever stated??? Dadi did not much bother about ShashiJi and something about khushi being adopted interests her ... either she know its false or the reason (car accident of parents) is false.

    DD is excited for the shagun... boy am I scared!! Did our bitwa get a new suit???? Will our cvs really deck him up so much if is not attending shagun. I remember akash attending his .... hope Nani and Arnav states that or they can give the dialogue to the pyaasa akash :)))))))) Anyways ASR is not missing his shagun not after he agreed for all the rasams :))))))

    Daiyya Ho as usual joke nikla ... one consistent man he is in the show :P

    If ever you do a TMTW make sure its not the month of August 2012.

    Dheere chalo cvs ..... though pace was a bit less today.

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    1. why do I keep eating words ... "If ever you do a TMTW make sure its not the month of August 2012." This was for you Dia :D

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    2. Sama, my shiddat realized and I didnt even realize or gloat, WT?

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    3. *rofl* Sama, I might need a TMTW just to figure out what all happened ... my head is spinning with the speed!

      Although today the pace was less ... I thought they would reach with the shagun today, but that's left for Friday ... again a cliff hanger weekend ... shit!!! But so much happening ... the past seems to be unravelling at supersonic speed!

      SHIDDAT after today ... Bitwa, please argue with Dadi and go for your own shagun! Otherwise the old bat will try some more dhamakas to cancel the wedding.

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    4. bitwa will def go... he already knows dadi is hell bent on breaking his shaadi... he has to be there to handle things! he promised khushi ki he'll handle things

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    5. BG wasn't it your shiddat for some bromance ??

      why is DB not shooting bulk of her scenes with other artists on regular time. Today there was at least an excuse as they had 15th they had to shoot till todays or maybe a chunk of friday by 14th ... hence no change in frames kolaveri. But why is she doing that regularly???

      I hate that awful BD they use for Barun ... yuck!

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    6. I have to say ... I didn't notice a single body double today :))) am so glad!!!
      I missed all the discussions on BD's (if there were any), and in the scenes I was so focussed in deciphering the expressions of the person in front, I didn't notice any of the backs!

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  6. This is what i call cut-to-cut scene drama....

    My heart went out to Garima today....i don't know the past but Pyumori Mehta made me want to give her a hug today and say everything will be alright.

    Anji not making any sense to me, has not for some time, have ignored her for some time to figure what is she actually....but today i am dumbfounded......she is not grey, black or white...what is she?
    the bro-sis scenes lacked the punch....altho the scene per se was fine as usual...

    Khushi-Arnav scene....absolutely awwwww...yes the drama overtook them but they still made their moments count

    Was that relief on Dadi's face on hearing who Khushi is? what was that expression....I am sure, they decided against going in the night..

    Arnav can't go for his shagun...ab kya hoga?

    why do i get the feeling that a trip to Godric Hollow is just around the next bend?



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    1. "Was that relief on Dadi's face on hearing who Khushi is? what was that expression....I am sure, they decided against going in the night.."

      yes rekha dadi is relieved but what for a) khushi is not garimas own daughter or b) she know the exact story which Arnav has no idea about and she thinks she got her trump card. Again the same question if it is the trumo card to throw khushi out of arnavs life then WHY????

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    2. Sama me thinks, it is the b) option and which is why she is stopping Arnav from going.

      For someone who has spent 14 years in Ashram, Dadi is resourceful:

      Finds out Bua's number

      Tapkofies at Bua's place

      Know Arnav brought GH in Khushi's name when we or kHUSHI had no clue,

      WT WT WT.

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    3. oh yes and if cvs don't show her in cahoots with VLR it will be the biggest blooper .... WHAT THE !! will not suffice.

      but when she entered RM she had no idea about her grandkids marriage ... Anjali she got to know seeing her bump(:@) and sindoor. She was dumb founded when she got to know about arnav.

      Somewhere it just does not fit all. Good the pace is fast ... naito if they dragged this ... sar phat jata!

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    4. Does that mean Giny and Johny are truly become, we are having so many WT...AND Bloopers?

      Last week was good..We atleast knew where this was going.

      No wonder this s how has so less TRP..Even the regular audeince has no clue what is happening toh the irregulars ko toh bilkul nahin pata chalega.

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    5. Rekha Pyomari mehta has improved tremendously since the Marriage track specifically the slap.

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    6. Godric hollow kay liye PH kay paas paisa nahin hain.

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    7. Me too, I liked Piyumori today ... and yesterday too ... her expressions were very good, she gave away a lot without a word, and today was even more effective. Even her panic in the precap ... one could feel it :)

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  7. WERIDDDDDDDDDD THOUGHT?

    If Garima indeed is the other woman, a woman MAY BE Mallik senior lusted after but who never gave in and that is why there was an uproar...

    Why should it affect only Khushi?

    It should affect Payal too right.

    Garima connection?

    No I am not trying to pitch a track for akash
    bitwa:)

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    1. Shweths....the same thot occurred to me and i was getting ready for a poser here..

      is it our love for akash bitwa or is it telepathy that makes us think so?LOL tells tells now

      yaar meanie DD is only concerned with her side of family,

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    2. can the other woman be someone garima vehemently supported and DD trapped her and defamed her in society cause if she IS the other woman she would just flat cancel the wedding and move to Lucknow before anything else happens??

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    3. Rekha: Dogra will be soooooooooooooooooooooo proud if he ever knew that while everyone is worrying about Arhi, we are thinking about Akash Bitwa,lol.

      Sama: What if it is Garima's sister or cousin sister? And no kid involved.

      Okay It is garima's sister...Sister who Mallik sr. lusted after, she barely escaped and married someone else, had a daughter in that marriage.

      Could it be ?

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    4. Even if Garima is the other woman, it won't affect Payal so much, because the man is question is Arnav's dad, no blood relation to Akash as such. The incestuous factor comes in more with Khushi ... her mom/maasi with Arnav's dad ... will there be a question of parentage? :((( I DON'T WANT THAT!!!

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    5. Ewwww Dia please don't let's discuss that... Can't handle such diacussions....yuck...please let them not go there

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    6. Also Payal is Shashi and his first wife's daughter....so no blood relation to Garima, whereas Khushi is Garima's real sisters daughter....

      Gargi, let pray and hope it doesnt go that way...infact i believe the trp's wont let them go that route....

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  8. Is payal shashis daughter or garimas daughter from before the wedding....... ????? Any idea?

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    1. Sappy: Hi. Payal is Shashi's daughter.

      We were led to believe that Garima is his second wife and after marriage guessing after a couple of years, Shashi and garima adopted Khushi who was related to Garima.

      Or Khushi came with Garima when Garima got married dunno about that.

      Now the confusion is the way Arnav said, Payal is Shashi-Garima's daughter.

      @ALLLLLLLLLLL::

      is that why Arnav repeated the history just so CVs let us know they have changed the characters around?

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    2. Hmm... If payal is shashi-garimas daughter ther Khushi couldn't have come with garima at tHe time of her wedding right as payal being elder to Khushi

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  9. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3151431

    i THINK the haircut has not happened, what about you guys?

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    1. definitely not...

      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2215738


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    2. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3150932

      look at him now!!

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    3. This guy seriously needs a haircut OR the MUA needs to lay off on the gel and give him another hairstyle :( ... seriously, the amount of gel that they use on him would give pavlova a complex..........blotting paper of any use here?

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  10. a weird thought -

    papa mallik and k mom had an affair. Dadi get hint of it and gets his son married to nanis daughter. K mom tries to break off the relation but papa mallik is *i give a damn to society you are it for me*. So she is forced to continue. K dad get to know k mom and falls in love with so much as to take her away from her nightmare. They get married and she gets pregnant with his baby but papa mallik is strong headed and demand the child as he claims it to be his. K mom and dad leaves lucknow as malliks are powerful. Garima the only one who has supported her sister through all these *tum toh hamari jiji ho tum toh hamara hi paksh logi* gets the burnt a papa mallik seeing no other ways to get hold of K mom corners garima. She is defamed fueled by evil chaha who sets thing is motion to get rid of papa malliks family one by one.

    This way garima is defamed for no fault of her own and khushi is the reason for havoc that papa mallik created in lives of mallik.

    I told you weird.

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    1. u mean the unborn khushi is the reason??? u were rite... quite weird!!

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    2. good thought sama...me too likey :)

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    3. Interesting thought, Sama ... me like too :))

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    4. So many twists and turns! My head is spinning round and round and round...Khushi ne jalebi banate banate hamare dimaag ki bhi jalebi bana di.

      I hope Arhi do not turn out to be half-siblings. It would be so incestuous.

      If khushi's mom was having an affair with Sr. Mallik but K's father was a different person then from Arnav's POV, K is his father's love interest's child...no blood relations...SAFE.

      But if Sr. mallik claimed K to be her child, then there are doubts over the ownership of the child...tab ab kya DNA test bhi karayenge??? WT...

      Wait...The affair has to start between a married mallik and an un/married K's mom as the age difference between anjali and K is about 9-10 years. In this case, either the affair was clandestine that A's mother could not find for many years or K is actually fathered by somebody else... I told you na...mere dimaag ki jalebi ban gayee hai.

      CVs must be having a saddistic pleasure for sure.

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    5. i dont the cv's will take the dangerous route of linking a-k as siblings....not even in MU....trp mata wont let them....

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    6. nopes not siblings but parents having an affair is not a new thing ... khabi khabi mere dil mein parents became samdhis at the end ... yahan toh utna complication bhi nahi hai :D

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    7. Sama ur thot bttheis good my trp comment was for Ananya dat arnav n khushi can never bsiblings not even half trp junta wont lyk it...... remember movie lamhe people dint lyyk anil kapoor his once upon a time crushes daughter...

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    8. Ditto! When I wrote the above comment, both 'kabhi kabhi' & 'lamhe' came to my mind.

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  11. Baaki sab kidhar hain?

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  12. BFTP in full flow... dadi looked relieved to hear khushi is not garima's sagi daughter... but what are the odds that she would know this garima?? it is a fairly common name... why did she react so much?? and her lecture down the stairs... blehh...

    i wonder if it were not abt khushi, wud ASR be still reigning in his temper? coz he was angry at dadi for once again having complains abt khushi... when khushi sounded reluctant abt having dadi and him over at such an ungodly hour, he got annoyed with her too... but then quickly backtracked sensing her worries... he reassured her he'll handle everything...

    also i dnt understand why garima is woried abt getting khushi married agn into that house, stating payal is already there... if garima is the other woman, then surely payal's marriage must be at risk too... how wud khushi be related to it at all???


    ANNNDD... i loved ASR's sorry and khushi's "aap humse bohot pyaar karte hain.... dammit" AWWWWWW

    bitwa got new suit for shagun??? and DD stops him from going?? she was almost sporting a smirk.. WT???


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  13. Why do Arhi scenes make me wanting for more. May be its just me, Bitwa doesnt know how to hug. KKGSR is waaayyy better. I see the intensity in SI's scenes, but BS I feel he is very off. And ofcourse BSji pleej dialogues thoda clearly boliye
    I dont know yeh kya drama hai..it is getting convoluted like a jalebi
    SN: I watched this VM , while randomly watching IPK vidoes on YT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkFP4zN2lo

    I have never enjoyed watching any villain more than Abhas..hats off dude!

    Sukhi

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    1. Sukhi he knows how to hug, his best hug so far has been with La...With Khushi..it has been very thanda..Sanaya has outscored him every single time.

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  14. Dia: DD is an old fashioned hypocrite - hence, she doesn't worry too much about Shyam's background - beti ke liye dulha mil gaya, woh khush hai aur bas! It's always the girl and her family who has to bear the burden of being uber! Add to this the BFTP and the concoction becomes very, very heady!

    Sama/Shwetha: Garima is part and parcel of the past but in what capacity????remains to be seen. Did her sister REALLY have an affair with Malik Senior? Or was that incident also a trap set up for some major misunderstanding? My guess is that Garima's entire family was caught up in this sordid drama and defamed which made Garima an innocent victim also (history repeating for Khushi?). There probably was someone else, pretty much like Shyam right now, who staged the whole incident to create a MU in order to get their hands on property/assets and destroy Mallik Senior and his entire family. Reason? Unknown - but as mentioned in R&R a couple of days ago, a mother WILL/DOES NOT commit suicide at the time of her daughter's wedding....So, was it someone seeking revenge? or just plain greed? In which case, it could be a business rival, i.e., Mallik's may have been wealthy and powerful business family, but a different league from the Raizada.....definitely think Gul is going to throw one of her famous googlies here.....*Sigh*

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    1. Aki your theory about Garima caught in all this makes so much sense...Let us watch for gul's googly.

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    2. Agree with Aki on both counts ... Garima is part and parcel of the past, but how remains to be seen. Notice Dadi's expression when she hears Garima's name ... it is NOT the hatred for the 'voh aurat' that she showed in her first scene with Nani ... and then there was her confusion ...'sochena padega ...'

      So I also think Garima cannot be the doosri aurat.

      Also, I think Garima is hiding something/someone and Dadi knows this ... hence Garima's panic when she knows Dadi wants to meet her - she understands that Dadi has not forgotten her.


      Is she hiding Khushi's mom? Or the child of that relationship? But then the child would be Kushi ... or is it Khushi and Arnav's half-brother/sister ...

      OR is she hiding the fact that the other woman and her child are both still alive? No relation to Khushi? And Khushi's parents somehow uncovered the truth about the affair and the child? And that was why they were killed/died?

      Lots of possibilities ... don't have time to think them through. If I do, I will post ... but maybe things will become clear themselves over the next week or so.

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  15. I don't think Dadi gave up the "I have to meet Garima now!" stance because she found out KKG was adopted - i think she changed her mind when she was told by ODB that Payal was Shashi's and Garima's daughter - So either ODB does not know that Payal is Shahi's and not Garima's daughter or he did not think it relevant hence said that she is their daughter.

    To me it seemed like Dadi then felt that this Garima could not be the Garima she thought she was coz if was married to Shahi then and busy raising his baby - she could not be the Garima she thought she was (god sounds like gibberish - might have to read it twice to get what i am saying!)

    Ps - is Shyam tampering Anji's meds? - she was perfectly fine - perfectly 6 abbed fit till one epi ago?

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    1. ROFL ... 6 abbed fit ... ROFL

      aap kahan thi ... apko miss kiya humnein >:D<

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    2. But hold on apparently i am wrong and payal is Garima's daughter - can someone clear this - dont know if it wqas mentioned on tge SP site or did they actually show that Payal was Shahis first wife's daughter?

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    3. It was mentioned in the original articles ... and I think in the first few episodes when Payal's first shaadi was going on, Garima did say Payal was her responsibility or something ... and Buaji told Garima that you came here ten years ago with Khushi. So it was clear that Garima is not Payal's real mother ... and from the story, this has to be true ... Garima cannot possibly be Payal's real mother and have been unfaithful to Shashi babu with two small girls. No, she is Shashi babu's second wife for sure.

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  16. Whatta blast from the past -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq0cedfHFG0

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  17. She (Rag1n1) does make some amazing VMs - thanks for sharing...the last song was so apt........could see DD sitting in for PrithviRaj Kapoor.... :)

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  18. Dia, my question was do guys go for their own shagun?

    Sama: Bromance should have had akash/nk...Anjali should have been banned there.

    And ditto on why DB is not shooting with the other cast, god knows kya panga chalta rahta hai yaar wahan par?

    @Garima: I do not want Garima involved at all. I rather prefer the Shyam's sister theory...that will give credence to Shyam.

    Garima can be one of the witnesses or something...or she was the one who confronted the malliks that would be Dadi and Mallik sr..about the car accident. It could be that Mallik sr. crashed his car and alongwith it Khushi's parent's car too.

    Mona: Aisa laga, she was pleased about Garima being the second wife and it tallied with the info she had about Garima..Garima might have gone missing or soemthing..so she wants to make sure she will create dhamaaka on Shagun today and makes sure ASR is not present.

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  19. IF is debating lack of intensity and passion, especially from Barun's side, any thoughts on that?

    I felt he outdid himself in the acting department yes, but yesterday's scene was very thanda..it was poorly written and the emotions were missing. It was just adequate...not the level I am used to seeing BARUN performing.

    Kya bro-sis jodi hai..

    Bhai refuses to sport short hair
    Behen refuses to sport even a small baby bump.

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    1. Yep, I also felt Barun was lacking ... on the SGH veeps posted the first apology scene, he outdid himself there ... yesterday he was very thanda. And the scene was poorly written and rushed through ... they just didn't spend enough time on it. They could have avoided the trip-fall-catch and spent more time on the emotions.

      Then again Barun is working very hard ... he has heavy duty scenes with Dadi and with Khushi, so the guy is obviously exhausted. Compared to Sanaya ... when she had the bulk of the scenes, she still managed to look great and be convincing in 99% of them ... but he has to fluctuate between Arnav and ASR a lot, and he's not quite managing. His scenes with Dadi were better, but the pain and anguish he should have felt in the apology scene did not come through.

      Or maybe it's the writers ... they know ASR very well, but they're still not sure about the deep-in-love Arnav.

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    2. I would like to give BS the benefit of doubt...becos i somehow feel that the scene is an interim sorry scene....sab emotions nahin dala scene mein....and in a way if u see, Arnav's FB is triggered by Khushi's pain....in a way he still sees it as how he has misunderstood her....the real pain about being the guy who has let her come in harm's way is still not there...i think it will come at some point...but NO DOUBTS THAT THEY ARE RUSHING WITH SCENES...no idea why

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    3. Bhai says ja pehle meri behen baby bump sport karwau..phir jahan bologe wahan baal katwaunga....

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  20. After a heady discussion yesterday... Some nice things to write. In the precap, bitwa was looking sooooo handsome. Absolutely droolworthy! :)))

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  21. Ok so i was right then - Garima is not Payals mother - but i am not sure that she came into Shahi's life along with Khushi - i re watched the 2nd epi yesterday and Buaji mentions "had Garima not brought home her sisters orphan..." - it was not clear if she got her after (years of) her own marriage or she was married and the child came along at the same time

    I agree that Garima is not the other woman – that would be too incestuous (even in flavor) and SP will not do it (no matter how many times Anji cups her brother’s face!)

    Rekha - i agree with you - I don’t think ODB was lacking in passion here - see as i see it - ODB finally ‘realized’ (using Dia’s words from the 3 steps of RTR) and that has broken him - in the sense that he knows how badly he hurt his love - and he knows that still she loved him (tried to save him every time) - so the anger /passion has given way to sheer vulnerability/helplessness (can’t remember the word I am looking for) – and hence the toned down expressions –
    it’s a fact that he hurt her and it’s a fact that he does not even know how many times he hurt her – so that ASR is now exposed to himself and him being intrinsically an honest person - he has to clearly talk it out with wifey – not overplay or underplay – no games here - just state the obvious! – he wronged her every time and he is sorry
    and hence the tears of joy when they hugged each other – perfect – both very willing – both equals now – both leaving the past behind – both understanding each other
    she the chirpy chulbuli who is actually is, he the silent content man that he can be with her around

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  22. Shwetha - missed your shiddats from yesterdays posts - me adding will power (since thats the most we can do) to them all ;)
    loved the bro bonding ones - seriously they do need to behave their age (apart from arguing about values with their nanis and dadis!)

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  23. Dia/Shwetha: agree with you that it seems most likely Garima was a witness to something that happened. since Mallik Snr's cause of death has not been disclosed yet, he could very well be the driver who caused the car accident in which Khushi's parents died - DD would then not only be aware of who Garima is, but also of Khushi. So, if we go by Mishti's spoilers then this last theory seems more plausible.

    My problem with Doods theory on IF is the heavy emphasis on tying Shyam into AA's past and totally ignoring Khushi, whereas the initial promos had emphatically stated that it was Khushi - so, which one is the red herring?

    U r rite Dia, r we watching a love story or a mystery thriller - jo bhi hai, issi mai maza hai....... :)... who knows, I mite even develop a liking for jalebis by the end of this show..... :D

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