Wednesday, June 27, 2012

27/6 - Epi 284 ... Hoist With His Own Petard?

Wednesday 27th June

Just hope it's a Wonderful Wednesday ... not Woeful Wednesday ...

Quick update - Khushi cons Shyam into agreeing to divorce Anjali ... her aim being to get him to sign his estate back to Arnav ... or some such thing ... need to check the paper again, but it appointed Anjali as the Sole Executor.
Mamiji overhears Khushi tell Shyam to divorce Anjali, and now's a good time because Arnav is away. And Mami stops using her brain to question why Khushi would talk like this when they both know Arnav is not away, he's been kidnapped ... and she rushes to tell Anjali straight away.

Khushi-NK discuss whether this is the right path ... Khushi remembers Arnav being beaten up and carried away ... his life is in danger ... so she has to go ahead with this ... she just hopes Di doesn't get to know about it.

Arnav challenges his KN's again ... he's going to break free. And the KN's are dumb ... or just awed by the ASR persona ... they actually believe it.
Has Arnav realised they don't want to kill him for some unknown reason, so he's ready to take pangas with them? And does he have so much faith in his biwi, that she'll find him soon enough? She hasn't even found his chit yet ... she's too busy sleuthing :(

Mami goes to the temple where Anjali is blissfully sitting in the Aarti for her 'voh' ...

While Khushi has the papers ready for Shyam to sign ... he's taken aback .. isn't she going too fast? And he starts reading them, she can't have that, so she loses her temper ... 'forget it, you're no use, I'll manage on my own, thanks ... I am alone after all ...'
And of course he can't have that ... Bitiya has learned to play the master manipulator as cleverly as he always plays everyone else ... so he signs like a lamb ... including the paper hidden among the divorce papers ...

Mami tells Anjali that Khushi wants Shyam to divorce her ... and Shyam agreed.

Okay, I seriously don't get this ... Mami didn't think it was urgent to tell the family that Arnav is kidnapped ... and had to hide it from Anjali because of her pregnancy ... and she doesn't think twice about telling her this? All to set up the MU? And delay our ArHi milan? :x

And how is getting Shyam to sign away his estate to Anjali or Arnav going to be of any use? Arnav isn't dead yet, and the estate hasn't gone to Shyam yet ...

When the stars getting too big for their boots and start demanding storylines, the story goes for a toss. Am not feeling very happy with Daljeet.

The only good thing was, Sanaya had less screen space today, which means she got her rest ... so hopefully back to the rescue tomorrow ... and finally to a good Rabba ve ... feeling starved here!!!

*edited*
Have put in all the main points above, so just a few additions -

Shyam-Khushi at poolside ... Mami overheard not only Khushi tell Shyam to take advantage of Arnav's absence and divorce Anjali, but also heard Shyam agree to do so ...
So she might misunderstand Khushi's insistence on staying quiet about the kidnapping.
Shyam's desire for Khushi, and his optimism that she is starting to bend towards him, is making him careless ... Khushi is finding it easier to manipulate him ... she never once tells him she is feeling anything for him per se ... its all about her revenge motive.

Mami's immediate reaction to tell Anjali ... quite in character ... she wanted to tell the family more than once about the kidnapping too. Blames both the outsiders ... Shyam and Khushi.

Arnav doing pushups ... the whole scene was quite funny :) ASR's smirk back, his attitude and confidence ... the KN's getting all hot and bothered ...what if he really runs away? =)) And Arnav's warning .. close the door before you leave :))
Is ASR trying to goad them into calling the Boss here?

NK-Khushi ... Khushi worried about what she's doing ... she doesn't really want Shyam to divorce Anjali yet ... why not? Why would she want Anjali to stay married to such a creepwa?
Or rather, she doesn't want Anjali or anyone else, to find out about all this ...
NK's mention of Sitaphal ... didn't know the mythological story behind it, all I thought of was Sita and phal ... Sita's separation from Ram coming up ... or after watching Mami limping up the stairs to tell Anjali ... is it Manthara filling Kaikeyi's ears and thus causing the Ram-Sita banvaas to the forest? So ArHi are banished together?

Khushi's doubts about the divorce papers ... and her memory of Arnav all beaten up and unconscious ... she can do anything for Arnav and his safety ...
And the conch sounds almost immediately ...

Anjali in temple, Mami limps her way there .. Anjali is also DM's favoured child ... the truth is broken to her in the temple ... DM has ordained it is time for Anjali to break out of her glass bubble ... Jai Devi Maiyya ki ...

As Khushi has the papers all ready for Shyam to sign ... much to his surprise ... 'aren't you rushing things a bit?'
And Khushi replies with a bite to her voice ... 'why? Are you changing your mind?'
She's learned how to manipulate the master manipulator himself ... playing him expertly, like an angler plays his fish, giving him some length, letting him read the first two papers, then reeling him back in by snatching them, and her anger ... 'forget it, you won't do this, I was a fool to trust you ...'
hitting him on his weak spot ... it's taken him forever to get her to trust him again ... he can't break that trust ...

Just as Anjali gets DM's prasad ... and Mami reaches her ...

Khushi urges Shyam to sign ... but he reads first ... she has to stop him reading them all ... the fake anger, the call to his trust ... the trap is sprung ...

Anjali first asks about Chotey, then about Shyam ... Mami says the word 'divorce' ...

Khushi still on her fake anger trip, challenging Shyam ... final tip of the balance ... 'I'll do it alone ...' she knows Shyam's weakest spot, his Achilles heel ... and he's falling ... falling ...

Anjali laughs it off ... 'He? Divorce me?!' can't happen ...
Mami repeats ... Khushi said best time because Arnav is away ... Anjali can't believe ... so what did he say? Still not believing anything about her KPP ... whatever Khushi said, he won't agree ...
And Mami remembers what Shyam said ... but will she actually say it to Anjali?

And Shyam falls into the trap ... and it clicks shut ... Khushi learned the Art of Getting Counterfeit Papers Signed in Five Easy Steps from the Conman himself ... and he's hoist with his own petard ... signed away sole executorship of his assets to his wife ...

Thoughts:
As an episode, it was interesting and lots happened ... Mami climbing the steps dragged a lot ... oh well, they were giving Sanaya some time off ... accepted :)

Aims of episode -
Set up the MU between Khushi-Anjali - accomplished 
Reverse Khushi's mistake in getting the papers signed - also accomplished, she atones for her mistake.
NK continues to be chief witness and Lakshman to Khushi's Sita ... accomplished with the Sitaphal line ...
Logicwa takes back seat - accomplished in spades ...
 - Shyam's will? He has no assets, won't have till Arnav dies, and even then, not ... because of Arnav's codicil ...
 - A POA for his assets, signed over to his wife? ... will Khushi use that as a sword over Shyam's head ... release Arnav because you're not getting his wife, and you won't get his wealth either ... stay quiet and happy with Anjali, otherwise I'll show her the divorce papers ...

Don't think they will dwell too much in all that ... the main purpose was to set up the next MU ... now Bitwa can safely be rescued/break out/ whichever way they take it ...

We won't have an ArHi MU ... that's a given ... but will Arnav know who the KN is? Hope Khushi tells him first thing or he finds out ... no more secrets please!!!  Not between ArHi!

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  1. Dam this MU was as fast as the earlier one !!

    Mami tell Anji about the divorce and too going to the temple ??

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  2. Mere dil mein ek hi khayal aa raha hain

    Kaash woh terrace scene mami ne witness kiya hota......WOH PAL HAMARE DIMAG MEIN CHAPTHA HI NAHIN.......GRRRRRRRR!!

    Gul must have some faith in her vision to be able to do this at this stage in the serial.....

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    1. Rekha .... Muaahhhh ..... That's exactly what I was thinking when Mami finished telling Anjali exactly everything !

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    2. What if it was a dream? I mean she thinks of telling her and then backs out? That was my first reaction seeing the coming up 3rd segment.

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    3. Nahi re they have wasted too much time first on OTT then on abortive Bondgiri ..... they cannot afford to lose time anymore as the hero is back.

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    4. Agree ... they're just setting up the Anji MU as fast as possible ... back to the rescue tomorrow asap.

      Today Sanaya got some time off ... the temple scene with Mami climbing stairs and then telling Anjali, was dragged to kingdom come!

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  3. I was expecting this. If Arnav who has been with Khushi for so long cannot understand her actions, how could mamiji do? I was also expecting Khushi to get the will papers interspersed with the divorce papers so that Shyam signs back the property to ASR. This way he cannot have ASR killed and also lose his wife, so that there is no more hold he can have on the Raizadas. Lets see how Arnav reacts to all the evidence piling up against Khushi.


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    1. Yes....and mami does the expected...she has always been like that...like a tracer bullet....

      A lawyer being checkmated by a novice....Gargi, i tell u this does not augur well for a lawyer's reputation esp after the cashflow proections.....the lawyer inthe other serial, is he keeping the flag flying high or not?

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    2. tracer bullet.. full CID costume changed to banarsi saree to go to the temple..

      somehow, i am feeling a bit of an anticlimax.. maybe we discussed this scenario to bits, but after the episode ended, i was like, "and??? what! we knew all this already! tell us something more!!"

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    3. yaar woh toh sirf file ya biwi ko lekar idar udar ghumta hai .... that's it!!!!

      *ducks* before Gargi fires up.

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  4. *Gloatwa veyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy*

    I said na, in the guise of divorce papers, she will get him to sign over the will too...They showed the executor of will part in the show, so Shyam has signed the property back over to ASR.

    Completely missed the Bitwa's heropanti....Unavoidable interruption:(

    WOAHHHHHHHHHHHH, Things are moving fasttttttttt arent they?

    Sahana: I AM VERY VERY SORRY, I missed your replying to you earlier and felt so bad I made you cry bey...........Hugsssssssss and once again very very sorry.

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    1. shwetha, i dunno if the will papers were a blooper.. i mean, if that was the first page, snakewa being a lawyer would have read it!! maybe they just swapped the (will) with (divorce) in the title :D

      and yes it was just "divorce", not "divorce notice"!

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    2. Jaya the first two papers were indeed divorce papers and he read them thoroughly, and that is why she snatched it from him cos after that it was the will papers, They specifically focused on Executor of the will when he signed.

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    3. He has signed divorce paper and papers which makes Anjali the sole executor (Bitwa or bitiya ke khayal kitne milte julte hain)

      Proof of Khushis motive after she is thrown out of RM

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    4. so tell me, was that snake's will? if not, what is the fayda of him signing it?

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    5. Well all our bitiya got to know is VLR transferred everything to him .... so she made him sign everything back to Anjali .... she is not aware of any other factor.

      ASR will need to do a complete WILL session with Mr. Roy once he gets back .... So many will floating.

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    6. *rofl* ... and in all this WILL business, has anyone stopped to think that wills are only applicable after the person has actually died?! It's not a POA or something that Snake takes over Arnav's property, and Arnav gets it back ... :D

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    7. you know all this WILL drama has nothing to do with the major part of the story ... I think I said it before when KN track was to start ... BS had to be away and they also needed a good reason to get their villain back after OTT guest appearances .... people have again started thinking VLR ads villain rather than a joker .... so once the kidnapping drama ends ... they will just give a reason in an episode that will not require any further questioning on kidnapping drama and will move on with the story which very much makes sense to me ..... accept the fact that I am negative to DB now ..... she was always a mediocre actress to me .... and with all her "the actress in me" drama has really put me off as she faltered completely with her expressions today. It maybe direction, dialogue or anything else but I'm ready to look through them when it comes to SaRun not anyone else.

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    8. "ASR will need to do a complete WILL session with Mr. Roy once he gets back .... So many will floating."..rofl..

      Now I am glad I gave up on the will long time back.

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    9. Dia....

      Thats the whole purpose of all this papers floating that by the time it is decoded....no one knows what is the actual paper about....Much ado abt nothing....

      If only it was this easy to transfer property, will ya no will. India mein wills banata kaun hain?Court ke chakkar katthe ganchakkar ho jate hain

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    10. Remember the much sought after "disc" in Shahrukh's don...Usmay kuch tha hi nahin...... That is what I am reminded of, will session, Dia, rofl very true.

      All R Family needs a counselling session from Lawyers, Doctors and therapists PRONTO.

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  5. *SHIDDAT SCENE ALERT*

    Bitiya finds the note..pasta for rs.300 and goes with NK to find some clues. They don't get mcuh and return completely disheartened only to come and face the firing squad with the whole family present.

    Meanwhile, Bitwa does his dishum dishum, gets hold of the gun, asks the kidnappers to empty their pockets, gets hold of all their purses for money and cellphones and LOCKS THEM OUT and escapes.

    Realizes he cannot go home like this, checks into a hotel does some wardrobe shopping along with the much needed shower, hails a cab and enters.

    Meanwhile Khushi is being crucified and almost on the verge of being thrown out and BAMMMMMMMMMM....

    Enters apna hero, brushes off everything as a MU OR a Practical joke, insists he was in Scotland, the airline misplaced his luggage, He had a bit of an accident in Scotland and hence the bruises, manages to shut everyone up and remember during the marriage night had left her all alone, this time he tells her, Khushi go to our room and stands as a wall between Khushi and his Murderous looking family.

    Too logical, Too filmy, I know:)

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    1. Shweths....

      U r PRICELESS.....ONLY ONE WORD FOR U....

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    2. shwetha, full together is too filmy.. we'll focus on the bits separately :D
      "pasta for 300" is PERFECT! so SHIDDAT!
      bitwa escapes dharminder style.. hmm nah.. i want sallu style.
      hotel, shopping, cab.. SHIDDAT for mona's sake :D
      bitiya crucified.. nahi re.. we have seen bitiya in the gandi gandi jaga.. so not gonna happen..
      but i can ask for a firing squad waiting at home. SHIDDAT
      and arnie baby just thanda thanda cool cool...


      btw i think bitwa does not know that snake is the kidnapper..

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    3. Shweths

      I swear I want this to happen !! pls godjee I want Arnav to support and trust Khushi ...

      I can all take the other MU's logical or illogical, crap of intense ... only one request pls ODB/G in it together... Pls not even pretend MU btn them ..

      And I hope its a dream ... can they let anji know so soon??

      And sure they have changed the whole track which would have led to RTR because of DB ..
      Although I was stumped for this today .. it was a good surprise..
      And Arhi milan isn't till Friday or friday precap ...

      now will NK enough to clear all the MU's even if there is one with Arhi will Bitwa believe even after facts which is completed against her , except the papers she got signed from VRL..

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    4. Shweths ... *rofl* SHIDDAT !!!

      But then what will happen of that madhur milan promo they keep showing in every break of every SP show ... tells tells?!

      Bitwa supporting Khushi ... SHIDDAT!!! Full power!

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    5. Shwetha *lol*
      would love to see di's expressions and mami's one liners on this.....
      UJ

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    6. For once in ages I am happy about mishti spoiler .... major ArHi dose coming our way ... she din't say anything else ... I liked the form of spoiler.....as we already know this is bound to happen.... SP will get the TRP back ... &its not just about IPK, its about all SP shows.

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    7. Sama, she mentioned good acting, last time she did that we got ASR acting all angry and throwing bitiya out by the pool stuff....wonder what we'll get this time

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    8. Arre that mishti is true blue spoiler ....kya bolti use hi pata hain....uske short forms decode karne ke liye i have to take a shorthand class...

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    9. ROFL ROFL .... Iss chat language ko kya naam doon?

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    10. Rekha ROFL ROFL.
      I agree most of the times i dont undestand spoilers coz the spellings and shorthands masha alla!
      UJ

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    11. Rekha: Awwwwwww, hugs bey.

      Jaya: Bitiya will be crucified, be prepared for that :(. She hid the truth about shyam, she eloped and got married. She lied about Arnav's kidnapping. The audio recording, Anjali's half sighting, Mami overhearing will all go against her. Seen when you want to hate someone, everything they have done will suddenly look like a crime to you...You as in Anjali. So she will be under fire and so will the Guptas. This is going to be testing times for Khushi and as well as Arnav, what will he do, support Khushi or go with his family?

      Aaru: MU will not happen between Arhi. Every top rated SP show has its couple together or romancing now. So they will keep Arhi together. Warna TRP AND audience will say bye bye to the show.

      PLUS NK is the most neutral in all this and he knows the truth, so Arhi ka milan hoga, MU nahin.

      Dia: Yaar Milan can happen in RM too right. She is getting deepfried, she closes her eyes, where are you Arnavji, if only you were with me,

      Piya Rapunzel re, Dil pukaaray Aa ja

      Tadaaaaaaaa, Bitwa entry maaring, calling khushi and she runs to hug him................PHULTOOOOOOO PHILMY, I KNOW:)

      UJ: I actually want Arnav to say looking at Shyam, why were you guys so worried, you thought I got kidnapped?*ASR STYLE*

      @ALL: Decoding the sms language sooooooo true.

      Btw, Who is this khubsoorath gal, any idea?

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    12. Shweths,

      Yeh pakka hogaa - "I actually want Arnav to say looking at Shyam, why were you guys so worried, you thought I got kidnapped?*ASR STYLE*"

      khubsoorath seems to be someone from the core IPK team who has fun at the cost of the online fans esp IF

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    13. Shweths, I agree on this one completely .. they can't afford to show any MU between the leads right ow, not with the TRPs the way they are. ArHi will be together ... Anji will create the disruption ... and that was always on the cards.

      Khubsoorath .. ignore her ... she posted that Barun had electric shock and had to take two days off because of blood loss ... so Arhi milan was postponed further ... I went "blood loss??? with electirc shock?" and stopped believing her pronto ... and BS was on SBS the same day, reassuring everyone he is back to shooting! She gets some half-baked news which is very difficult to decipher ... with her chat language :( most of it doesn't happen.

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    14. Dia....that is khusboorath....not khubsoorath...apart from mis-spelling and silly news that is no news at all, she also mis-spells her name...hehehe...

      blood loss....fever.....and pata nahin kya kya....

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  6. Am doing a happy dance .... ArHi vs ShyLi it is !!!

    CELEBRATION CELEBRATION !!

    ASR is definitely trying to get that BOSS of theirs in that gandha gandha jaga ..... there can be no other motive.

    DAMN note ka code ka Khulasa not done !! :@

    DB did a wrong move by making her reason for negotiation with PH public .... don't know about others she has completely lost her charm to me BOTH character and actor.... I feel like this MU WAS the original premises .... otherwise there is no other way to hold off ArHi but still there is a nagging feeling .... DB forced it (which is not the case I know I know) but can't help it ..... It's killing the complete kick I would have got from the turn in story.

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  7. Gosh, that was such a scary episode...... now m sure that Bitiya and Bitwa wont get time to sort anything...... first the escape then some rabba-ve moments and a bomblast as soon as they reach RM.....

    I wished atleast mami would've confronted Bitiya b4 telling Anjali....also she didn't wait to think that Anjali is pregnant so its not right to tell her all this at this stage....or wait...maybe this is Mami's dream and tomorrow anjali will faint and mami will wake up and realize that she shudnt tell anjali, instead confront bitiya...and bitiya will tell her the truth.......

    too predictable naa

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    1. saw this link on IF...i dint notice it....did u guys ?

      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3060309

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    2. IF may compete with light in posting.

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    3. actually, somehow your words ring true. i hope this MU clears like the heer-ranjha pharmacy MU.. next day clearance..fingers crossed!

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    4. the anji-khushi MU if it happens wont clear so soon.... bitwa-bitiya will....cause he will be shocked to hear all this as soon as he reaches, and if anji really throws khushi out, then he wont react at all, still deciphering all that he heard.....and then after kkg leaves, nk reaches rm and tells all to maasi and nannav...which obvi others wont know....

      this is just their way of keep bitiya-bitwa away from each other, nahi toh big C durr nahi, hai naa

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    5. But if K is banished from RM then we are heading towards another Arhi separation... in that case only DM can help the TRP.

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    6. they will have to do that, if anji announce it in RM...noone will tolerate kkg around...

      only respite will be if anji decides to hide it from bitwa for his sake, as she knows how much he loves bitiya....

      but then everytime bitwa was near-confession, he has gone through a heart break....and this time he has confessed, so his heart break will have to be biggest so far....

      maybe anji will give an ultimatum that she can't live with bitiya around....bitwa (thought trusts bitiya) is too shocked to react...and bitiya leaves RM on her own....then enter NK and tell-all to Bitwa, giving him the biggest pain of not doing anything for bitiya.......

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    7. assuming all the above only if Mami isn't day-dreaming.....or maybe once she sees anji's reaction she will says 'april fool banaya'

      :D

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    8. Anonymous,

      Are you thinking ArHi separation = ArHi MU each other? Why?

      Geetu,
      Aisan hi hain humaare chhote - Jab woh kiseese pyaar karat hain aur unke liye kuch nahi kar sakat hain toh woh khud ko takleef pahunchaate hain.

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    9. hamara chhote bada kab hoga Sandy :D

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    10. Geetu,

      Very soon. Maybe as early as next week, the accelerated growing up should begin I think!

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  8. This show was supposed to be titled Vaidehi or Didi ki Saut, isn't it? We are heading in that direction. Didi will consider Khushi as her sautan. Like Sita (Vaidehi), Khushi was put through agni pariksha (their forced marriage)by her Ram (Arnav) to prove that despite that terrace hug she is pure. Although Sita came out of the agni unscathed she was still banished by Ram because of the rumours about her chastity by people. Maybe we may see that Arnav may believe that his Khushi is innocent (like Ram did) but may not try to hold back Khushi when she decides to leave following the allegations against leveled by Anjali/mami.


    Alternatively he could initially believe what he sees but the MU may be cleared soon by NK, after which he goes into deep repentance but does not stop Khushi from leaving. One can wonder how can he misunderstand her after their heart-to-heart telepathic talk but then did he not still have the MU even after hearing and remembering her heartfelt feelings in an inebriated state when one does not normally lie?


    So right now anything is possible, including Khushi asking NK to promise that he will not reveal the entire truth to Anjali because she cannot bear that the man she adored (her chottey) was kidnapped by the man she worshipped (her patidev). She may forgive the man his philandering ways, especially if he makes it seem that Khushi entrapped him with her charms but she will never tolerate that the man dared to kill her brother.

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    1. OMG Opti....i hope bitiya doesnt go the cliche way for requesting NK to hide everything just for Di.....

      i think she has realized what mess she has created by hiding the original truth from arnav, thats why as soon as he called her, she told him that shyam was the kidnapper..... so this time maybe she wont get the time to tell him, but won't request NK for any such thing, esp when she knows how dangerous VLR is....she would atleast tell Bitwa bt it

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    2. Maybe Anji will faint or have a threatened abortion, so all the more reason for bitiya to keep her out of things.

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    3. 'Vaidehi or Didi ki Saut' Thank God they didn't! esp not the latter one!

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    4. You know you are right, the question is will he stick by her or banish her AS In wont stop her when she leaves.

      I would rather he tell his family the ppl who have issues, she is my wife, it is her home, she will stay here only.

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    5. Shwetha,

      That just may happen. Do u recall how at last Rakhi RM being ASR's house came up in an argument with Anjali.

      And again it was to her that he told post wedding, if Khushi cannot stay then we BOTH shall leave.

      There is something brewing underneath.

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    6. Yes, but Opti, will Arnav know the truth, that Shyam is the KN? If he does, then the rest doesn't matter, frankly. I can put up with Khushi going through MU with Anjali and Nani, as long as Arnav is with her. And if he's with her, then he won't be sitting tight either, they will do something to oust Shyam ...

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  9. WT so mami told Anji everything? About divorce and A kidnapping? I so so hope A is going to stand by bitiya although i can see the terrace confrontation between VLR and K brewing wotnessed by A. I think A and K will come home after A runs. K will be fired. A will defend her. S will somehow realise K has used him and will confront K. This will be completely witnessed by A unlike the first confrontation whete he witnessed only parts of it.
    Rocky times for bitiya ahead. Although as long as DM and A are with her she will wither any storm.
    UJ

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    1. Nahi UJ not Arnavs kidnapping.

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    2. You ALL NOTED WHAT ANJI'S First reaction was, she was worried about CHotay first and Shyam second.

      She has her priorities right:)

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    3. thats a bigger problem :-D
      she wont tolerate kkg taking either one away...be it her chotte or her snakewa

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    4. thats a bigger problem :-D

      DI sabse sayani banadegi chotte ka yani papadh ka tukra!!!!

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    5. Sama, Shwetha, Geetu,

      do you think so? - i always get the feeling that all said and done, Anji will choose her husband over her brother - also in matters where she will be asked to take sides, believe in one or the other, she will choose TF!!
      yes she did ask for ASR before TF today but then that was coz ASR is out of town and ODB is the first link shared by mami and her

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    6. frankly Mona, i think she will choose TF and make ASR choose herself and TF :D

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    7. Mona....

      well said and serves bitwa for doing "di...di....di" jaap

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    8. @all: Her first instinct will be to believe Shyam, he is her hubby, her glass castle does not break than a girl who she has barely known for 1 year and has lied so many times. Then she will piece it all together of her own, just when Shyam thi nks he has her fooled.

      Shyam will be kicked out around Navaratri.

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    9. Shweths,

      Dura Ma is all about clearing out impurities...The process seems to have begun.

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  10. DAMN cvs .... everyone was 100% sure there will be a precap today with milan .... kahani mein twist no PRECAP ..... rofl

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    1. *GLOATWA VEY*

      I didnt.

      I told either it will be in the precap thursday or friday precap.

      They have to go to hotel and find out and Bitwa gets introduced to Lallan and gang, new additional KNs.

      Toh yaa toh friday ya monday hoga milan.

      Most likely Friday last part will be continued on M onday to lock in teh TRP for both weeks.

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    2. lallan.. as in tai-ji's grandson of laxmi nagar? ROFL

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    3. Jaya I have no idea, saw in the offscreen segment, wow you remember that lallan too, jaya ki jai ho*hugs*

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    4. well, i saw the sbs tooo.. and was manufacturing a scene with lallan saying: "arre, tu madhumathiji ki damaad ho na, chal, you go.. you repaired my daadi's fan.. tujhse koi panga nahi"
      :D

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    5. Shwetha, Jaya
      *rofl* Both of you are made for each other!!!

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    6. Jaya, Shweths *rofl* ... you both remember Lallan :)))

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  11. Have been thinking about this since today's comments. The bill 15, 30 and 40.
    Day 15 khushi is banished from RM (around 11th july)
    Day 30 Arnav gets to know the truth from NK and works out the jigsaw puzzle (26th July) around teej. Arnav has to break khushi's vrat. Cant have it And tolerate it any other way.
    Day 40 S and K confrontation witnessed by A and A beats up S black and blue. S hospitalised so no vows renewal for VLR and Anji after teej.
    Day 85 (15+30+45) Anji gets to know the whole truth. (end if sept ish)
    Arhi wedding around diwali....
    UJ

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    1. UJ,

      You are going to wait 40 days for A to beat S - u've got patience I say!

      And if wedding only around Diwali then by what haq he breaks her vrat on Teej? - I agree no one else can do that for her.

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    2. Sandy baby,

      did u read my comments on ur bill decoding?

      Tere shyam gyan par main fida....

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    3. Oh and UJ

      I think 11th July marks the 1 year anniversary of the Guest House episode.

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    4. Rekhu,

      I did. Me very khush :)
      Huggs!

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    5. Sandy what bill decoding? Am i missing something? Have to say haven't had a chance ti read all comments yday.
      UJ

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    6. HAAJune 27, 2012 5:37 AM

      Food Bill shown in 21st June 2012 epi - Part 1
      Purely my thoughts and conjecture.

      The total of 85
      What began on 8th May will come a circle by 5th August
      a. ArHi roadside confrontation & Mrs ASR dialogue. Arnav had shattered that image of them together on the road that day.
      b.close to Teej - fasting to attain a husband like Shiv in commemoration of the Shiv Parvati union


      Sequence: 1-5-15
      a. In 15 episodes by 13th July
      b. Firstly the 5 makes me think of the 5 senses (hearing, touch, sight, and the 5 levels of consciousness. A balance among these is needed to attain liberation or Moksha - a resurrection of self.
      c. Coincidentally over the weekend saw an epi where Parvati approaches Shiva by transcending each level of consciousness and Shiva is shown to be meditating and in penance; his remorse at Satis's death
      d. 5 also reminds me of Shiva Panchakshara Stotra or the 5 syllables in Namah Shivaya - again speaking of balance and rejuvenation of self to attain moksha
      e. 5 also reminds me of Panchamukha Hanuman - one of the 5 faces is that of Varaha. Varaha is the Vishnu avatar that delved into the ocean to bring Bhoomidevi to the surface. Boomidevi had sunk to the ocean bed because of the weight of the sins borne by her.
      f. The 1 reminds me of the first 3 days of Navratri wherein Durga is worshipped and it is all about cleansing the impurities


      Sequence: 2-1-30
      a. In 30 episodes around 2nd or 3rd Aug
      b. Teej is in late July and Raksha Bandhan is in early August
      c. 1 signifies unity or unification
      d. 30th anniversary is the anniversary of pearls (like 25th is silver and 30th is golden)
      e. 30 is supposed to symbolize the measurement of time. The time is up on the 6 month ArHi marriage? Will it also herald the start of the clock ticking on a probable exile / banishment for ArHi?
      f. The 2nd set of 3 days in Navrathri are associated with Lakshmi - hearlder of auspiciousness, wealth and prosperity. Ghar ki Lakshmi is also a common phrase used for the sowbhaagyawati bahu of the house.
      g. 5+1=6 / shashti. Shasti is imporant in Navratri because it is the victory of Lord Karthikeya over Tarakasura. Shasti also makes me think of Sitalshasti which is a carnival to celebrate the marriage of Shiva and Parvathi. The Shiv Parvathi marriage was ordained so that they may come together to beget a child who will destroy evil - basically come together to destroy evil
      h. At Teej every year Anjali and Shyam profess to renew their wedding vows
      i. Between Teej and Raksha Bandhan is Anjali SHYAM Wedding Anniversary
      j. Before the Teej epi last year interesting things happened: Arnav was told by SHYAM as to how words once said and actions once done cannot be undone. Life is not a video player that you can rewind. It also brought to fore the need for marriage and the differences in this POV between Nani and Arnav
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6nP6UBUvbs&feature=channel&list=UL
      Another epi is an Anjali Arnav convo about the Anjali SHYAM wedding. An oblique reference to the circumstances in which they got married how SHYAM always keeps Anjali happy and how she fears this happiness will be lost. Arnav goes on to reassure her how he will never let anything wrong happen to her, how she is his world and how he could do anything to see a smile on her face.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEVst2GTTk&feature=channel&list=UL (its towards the end of this video)

      Krishna promised Shishupala's mother to pardon him 1000 errors for her sake. So will Arnav keep pardoning SHYAM for Anjali's sake?

      k. On Raksha Bandhan eve last year, there was a fight between Arnav and Anjali and Arnav had in anger called RM his house. And then Anjali left home / went missing.

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    7. HAAJune 27, 2012 5:38 AM

      Food Bill shown in 21st June 2012 epi - Part 2
      Purely my thoughts and conjecture.


      Sequence: 3-0-40
      a. In 40 episodes around 16th / 17th Aug
      b. Janmashtami is on 10th Aug
      c. 0 usually reminds you of nothingness and also of the start of something. It can also be thought of coming a full circle and therefore of associated realization
      d. 40 is usually associated with the 40 days of judgement of man (Noah's Ark). It is usually a wait period ; a time of being tested
      e. The last 3 days of Navrathri are associated with Saraswathi - the goddess of knowledge and wisdom.
      f. Also the 8th day is DurgaAshtami - the day Ma Durga slew the demon Mahishasura. a day of triumph of good winning over evil
      g. Janmashtami also speaks of Krishna's birth and how Devaki Vasudev's children were swapped Nanda's in order to safeguard them esp - Krishna and Balarama.
      http://www.kasarabada.org/bhagavatam%203.html
      h. Just after Janmastami last year came the epi about Arnav's parents shraad. Will Khushi’s baauji recover by this time?

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    8. Patience toe nahi hai but i cant see how A and S will have a confrontation without A knowing that he is/was the KN. if he gets to know S was the KN why will he let K go from RM. only coz Di says so. I mean honestly if he lets her go only coz Di says so i will be so so unhappy with him.
      I am really not thinking straight anymore. This mami has scrambled my brain....
      Sandy A ko haq toe last year bhi nahi tha to break her fast. I'm sure CVs can come up with an excuse....
      UJ

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    9. Sorry was going through it again when saw UJs comment ... so thought will re-post it. It wasn't discussed &I need to understand it :D

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    10. UJ,

      Teej vrat is all about Shiv Parvati union - more fitting for ArHi union nai?

      And before that some Shyam dhulaai toh sone pe suhaaga na

      Sama,

      Thanks sweetie for posting the comments!

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    11. Sandy love how ur brain work. Numbers.... Ahaaaa... Wonderful meaning given to the numbers.
      85, i agree what started on 08/05/2012 will come a full circle on 5th Aug. Although when i say full circle i mean arnav's accusations will find an answer in shyam's dhulai. 40 days judgement period again for me this indicated the number days A will take to think things through and confront S. may be there will be a S and K confront viewed by A and then A does S ki proper dhulai.
      On another thought though i can also see A completely trusting K when Di and rest of the family start accusing her. Di eventually says that she cant stay with k under the same roof so Arhi leave on 5th Aug.

      Yes Teej is shiv parvaati union and will be apt for A K union but somehow i feel Teej is too soon for Arhi union given that di will start throwing tantrum and all.... Although i can see their MU completely clearing (assuming although A has confessed the old MU has not cleared yet). That will be a complete union of two hearts that love each other with no MUs between them.
      Ofc if they are banished on 5th aug then they will be together on teej anyway at RM.
      Again last three days of navratri (16oct to 23oct 2012). I think around end of sept begining oct is when Anji will get to know the whole truth and will slew the evil.
      I hope i am totally wrong coz i dont wanna wait so long for this to wrap up. And i am seldon right about such things.
      UJ

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    12. Sama thank you muchly for teposting sandy's number decode. Would have missed a good post otherwise :)
      UJ

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    13. Thanks Sama for reposting ... had time today to go through it more carefully ... random thoughts ...

      Yep, Teej is Shiv Parvati union, and it was very significant for Arhi last year ... the first time they started interacting outside of office, the first awareness during the puja, the first hint of jealousy/anger from Khushi when Arnav broke Lavanya's fast ... Parvati is supposed to be very hot-tempered and possessive about her husband ...

      Teej may be too soon for ArHi union ... given they they have to have their re-wedding first ... so that I think will happen only around Diwali.
      But there will be some significant development in their relationship around this time.

      Teej might be more significant for Shyam-Anjali, as they used to renew their vows every year at Teej ... will they do so this year? Or will he be kicked out before that?

      Janamashtami in August - will Anjali's baby be born then?

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    14. Dia,

      ArHi union can be connotated in multiple ways, re-marriage, physical union, joining of hands to oust the asura / devil

      What the PH is going to do lets see.

      Shyam may refuse to renew his vows with Anjali this year and get thrown out of the house or be given a chance at redemtpion by Anjali for the sake of her child.

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  12. Hahahhaha I really felt like laughing during todays episode!!

    Mami and her bhanja (NK) are the only sane ones in RM...Arnav and Khushi both suffer from the same 'must protect Di' complex....mami did what Khushi should have done 6 months ago - TELL ANJALI...for crying out loud she did what ODB and ODG combined couldn't do in soooo long. Good for you Manuuu...

    As for MU...well who toh hon a hi tha...If Anjali -Khushi MU doesn't happen then how will story progress...

    Personally I feel if Arnav misunderstands Khushi even after everything then Khushi should just jet off to Australia and chill...

    I'm assuming Gul won't kill the hero she spent so long trying to build up and while the rest of the family will misunderstand her Arnav won't...dunno how NK will be brought into the pic, but Im sooo glad he knows EVERYTHING...wish she'd shared everything with mami though...she has more 'vat'...

    The REAL question is this...

    DI KE LIYE KHUSHI SE SHAADI KARNA WASN'T HARD FOR ASR(DUh!!;-))...WILL HE SO EASILY LEAVE HER NOW fOR HIS DI TOO???

    SN: Bitwa better breakout pronto I'm getting bored of this 2 minute KN scene...
    SN: Payash are in another time zone all together
    SN: Nooo ya stopped watching behna then only cuz lawyer boy spends more time convincing his wife to reciprocate when he flirts...she's damn boring..:-)

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    1. Gargi........

      U said it....Ab ASR ka MU hua toh.....Khushi should happily go to Australia.....with our nandu ka bandhu.

      *rofl*

      "DI KE LIYE KHUSHI SE SHAADI KARNA WASN'T HARD FOR ASR(DUh!!;-))...WILL HE SO EASILY LEAVE HER NOW fOR HIS DI TOO???"

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    2. Gargs,

      Like ASR's first instinct was to protect his sister will not Anjali's first instinct on hearing this be to protect chottey - he who loves Khushi so much and has already (perhaps) seen heartbreak in his life with his mother, is it possible that Anjali blackmails Shyam to layoff Khushi for chitey's sake?

      Thereby she also protects her own dream world with Shyam for the child's sake.

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    3. Aiyoooo....
      does it mean that Anji always knew this....or is that far fetched?

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    4. Sandy I totally love this .... So when the marriage reason is out ... she actually force ArHi for proper marriage .... which is how I thought initially ArHi would get married .... she knows her chotte has taken a liking towards this girl so forces him to marry her in order to protect her marriage.... but then I thought she would know khushi is innocent.... so she also ensures chottes happiness

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    5. Rekha,

      Aiyyooo...nahi nahi.

      I am saying she hears mami and believes her assuming mami sequence is not a dream. SO what will be her first instinct - like today it will be chottey and how he should not be affected by Shyam agreeing to divorce Di becasue she knows how Arnav will get all worked. So to protrct him she tells mami you will keep this between us. And then she will confront Khushi and tell her that for chotey's sake u will stay away from Shyam (somehow I keep thinking of that note in the shaitaan sundari seq that anji laid hands on and what she told Khushi after Arnav left about keeping a secret between them). Anjali either resorts to I know Khushi trapped you and you would never have agreed otherwise else she goes the blackmailing route with him to ensure he behaves. Blackmail appeals to me ;)

      So Shyam and Khushi stay on in RM with Mami and Anji keeping a strict watch. In the meantime Arnav comes back to RM.

      Anji - Khushi euqation has changed
      Arnav - Khushi equation has changed
      Shyam thinks he an have an equation with Khushi (ewww)
      Guessing Khushi starts cold shouldering Shyam stating she cannot raise Arnav's antennae as she needs his trust
      NK is watching SHyam. Mami is watching Khushi.
      Mind games continue from all sides.

      Total state of flux in the house and sooner or later something gives.

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    6. Sama,

      When the marriage reason is out, I think Nani will want Arnav to marry Khushi.

      Anjali well not sure how she would be feeling towards Khushi just then. Maybe a bit of frost in her attitude remains.

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    7. "Anji - Khushi euqation has changed
      Arnav - Khushi equation has changed
      Shyam thinks he an have an equation with Khushi (ewww)
      Guessing Khushi starts cold shouldering Shyam stating she cannot raise Arnav's antennae as she needs his trust
      NK is watching SHyam. Mami is watching Khushi.
      Mind games continue from all sides.

      Total state of flux in the house and sooner or later something gives."

      Wish we got an hours episode everyday.

      Nani get ArHi remarried .... The promo with Nani right after ArHi marriage suits that.

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    8. Sandy, and all ... first lets see whether Mami actually tells Anjali about Shyam. In the episode, she didn't yet ... she remembered Shyam's words, and then Anali started her fainting fit ...

      So it might be Mami ready to confront Khushi and tell her to back off from Shyam ...

      but I'm betting on the scenario that by the time Mami and anjali get back home, Khushi and NK have found the chit and dashed off to find Arnav ... and by the time they get back with him, Anji is already in the loop, and ready to MU Khushi full on.

      Also, if Shyam-Arnav confrontation does happen, then Shyam might disappear for some time ... and if Khushi is also missing, that will fuel Anjali's doubts ... Shyam and Khushi missing together ...

      I remember the Guesthouse episodes ... entire RM was talking about Arnav being missing, he must be with La ... and Arnav was busy with Khushi ... here it would serve as perfect proof for Arnav that Khushi was not with Shyam, because she was busy rescuing him. And if ArHi decide they have to tackle Shyam together, or that they won't tell Di about the kidnapping, then Arnav won't bother to clear Di's misapprehension either ...

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  13. ladies help me out here -
    - so ODG is obviously cheating TF - she will get him to sign something other than the divorce papers - what could those be? - ASR's rewritten will where Anjali is back to being the sole owner?, but how can he do that, wouldn't that have to be done by ODB? OR its Shyam's will/POA where he says ASR properties to be handled by Anji!

    - What exactly is she (ODG) trying out here? - i mean i can get that she is trying to undo the harm she thinks she did to ODB by getting his signatures on those papers but how does that help get him back??? is she planning on blackmailing TF with these papers and asking for ODB's whereabouts?

    - so much movement in IPK!! - mami hears - moves to tell and actually does tell - wow, no wonder her foot is aching - never has anyone in IPK moved so fast!
    Found it very interesting that this family, unlike all other SP families always moves to communicate - as in tell Anjali what is going on - now Anjali is such a weakling that they back off is another side of the story

    Blog genie - please please please - work your magic and no more MUs please (and we all now know why you are the BG! so no escaping the responsibility :D)

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    1. oh and forgot to add - ODB had not heard his wife name TF as the KN, so he is till in the dark - will this divorce thing act as another amber into the fire of MUs?
      though i love the way the story is headed and love that ASR is back - if either this or the following scenario happens, i shall be borrowing BG's Danda before walking out -
      The other scenario being - If ODG gets all sacrificing like the regular SP bahus and goes NK, don't tell anyone, save TF's reputation for Di's sake... aaghhh! - i would rather see her as the smart chick who has the intelligence to play TF and get back ODB's papers AND get him to divorce Anji - so he gets neither KKG, nor the money AND he looses his golden goose rather than any weepy SP bahu!
      :D

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    2. "wow, no wonder her foot is aching - never has anyone in IPK moved so fast!"

      ROFL ..... yup never has there been things so fast .... they always take their own sweet time.

      But still I liked it .... proper reason to kill screen time &with the flow.

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    3. Mona,
      "i shall be borrowing BG's Danda before walking out "-
      Sorry, is there an option like that?

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    4. Mona,

      we with you in this , if Bitwa MU's her once more, than K is better of going off with NK to Australia and have her own dabba service..

      Yes I want K to be smart and check mate VRL !! Don't want a sacrificial goat here pls !!! Nayi Soch SP !!!

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    5. No Mona, I doubt ODG will play sacrificing bahu any more ... she knows that TF is dangerous and probably murderous ... her prime aim is to get Arnav out of his clutches for that very reason ... once Arnav is back, she will be ready to spill the beans about TF, because Arnav's safety is the only thing holding her back.

      And that is why the Anji MU has been set up, and Mami has also switched sides temporarily, so that the conflict continues, and whatever Khushi says, no one believes her.

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  14. waiting for 11..Mami rushed to Anjali?? crazy lady... yeh expect nahi kiya tha!!! i thought she was warming up to Khushi!!anyway will watch and come back..

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    1. IMO she will confront Khushi .... NK will be there too &then she will be in a fit .... Arnav/Anji .... both are dearest to her. One thing for sure .... she will not spare VLR.

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    2. tere mooh me ghee shakkar Sama

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    3. Geeta for future reference I love double chocolate fudge cake (DCFC) :D :D

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  15. thought about it ... and now I am mad..
    what is it about khushi that draws these men to her? is it just that she is a pretty face? ASR first fell for that.. but in the beginning, sham was attracted to her saadgi.. her honest heart, her innocent bak bak, her attitude of making others smile.. now? she asks angrily and he signs the divorce papers? i would have thought her crying bitterly would have moved him to sign divorce papers.

    another thing.. khushi is under DM's protection, they repeated that yesterday.. so why did mami revelation happen in the temple? something good this way comes??

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    1. 'her crying bitterly ': I thought she made some landmark dialogue the other day. yeh khushi ab woh Khushi nahi hai or something. Playing well within the character, I suppose.

      'something good this way comes??'- shortcut to RTR? DM is with us!(Vaguely seeing it somewhere in the horizon!)

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    2. Jaya, Shyam always loved the fiery angry Khushi ... he said it once before also, when he was making moves on her in Arnav's absence ... and he knows she has a temper.

      But what really got him hooked was her saying "I'm alone ..." she played him like an expert on that one ... he's been trying to win her trust back ever since he lost it the first time round. And even now, she has kept her purpose constant - it's Arnav's downfall she wants, and that's what she will accept Shyam's help on, but on her terms ... Shyam has to win her trust first, then only can he progress to her heart ...

      Crying and being defeated works on Arnav ... he hates to see her down ... that's why he signed the papers for her :)))

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  16. mami should have confronted khushi first! doesnt all that bonding mean anything to her? how can she forget khushi's concern for arnav and the whole raizada clan! damn these raizada's are fast in jumping to conclusions! at least thoda socho na ki why would the person do that in the first place...
    Misha

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    1. m hoping that its mami's dream :D

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    2. even i was hoping it would be a dream, that mami would see how anjali would react (i.e. hyperventilate in her usual over-dramatic way) and then mami would back off, considering that this kind of info might even be harmful for anjali's baby or something...
      Misha

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    3. Misha,

      Mami's relationship with Anjali and Shyam outdates her recent still to find roots relationship with Khushi

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    4. but still...she could have asked khushi what the hell was going on...going to anjali was not a wise decision...maybe in a fit of rage she decided to tell anjali as she cant see her getting hurt...didnt arnav almost blurt out the truth to anjali after that terrace scene? but anjali's pregnancy announcement kept him quiet...
      Misha

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    5. Misha,

      Mami did exactly what Arnav did that day just like you said. She went and told Anjali.

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    6. My question again ... HAS she told Anjali yet?

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  17. Off topic .... the new show ... Pyaar ek dard hai ... copied ArHi step in reverse .... guy is about to fall ... girl gets hold of his hand .... as per the new promo.

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    1. hmm...isnt the plot outline a bit similar, too? guy doesnt believe in love, is closed off, and the girl is chirpy and cares for everyone...
      Misha

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    2. i heard they even got jalebis in the show :P

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  18. Gals, My head is spinning. All I can say is Khushi has landed herself in a royal mess . IPK as a story has become too complicated for the general audience, I don't see how the TRPs can go up with a story with so many twists and turns .
    I am not having a good feeling about this anymore. Not quitting , the ever optimist, will wait and watch what the CVs have to offer.

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  19. Dia : Mami did try to tell the family, she was the one who raised the alarm when MM told her bt ODG-Nani talks (that bitwa hasnt reached london)

    it was Khushi who hid the news cause of Di...now Mami will think tht khushi did it on purpose as she dint want to get him back....also if she finds out only half of the truth that shyam is the kidnapper then definitely she will think that ODG was just playing her around with the rescue drama....

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    1. Dia,

      Agree with Geetu. Mami was always all for saying the truth. SHe again almost said it when Khushi went missing. It was the threat on Arnav's life that kept her silent.

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    2. Hey, what was mami doing spying on bitiya? That means she was already suspecting her?

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    3. Su, mami spying on khushi-shyam was accidental...mami was carrying out her 'ihvestigations' and thats when she chanced upon K and VLR by the pool side...and heard their convo and MU'd khushi....
      Misha

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    4. Misha,

      Not just Khushi .... she totally understood shyaam too ... whats there not to.

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    5. yeah she misunderstood khushi and understood shyam!
      Misha

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    6. Yep, agree ... Mami's character is to say everything ... she did exactly that again ...

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  20. Damn CVs! They will jump into a MU track in a jiffy and stretch it on for months.I thought Anji MU will take as long as it takes her tummy to grow atleast. But oh no, the CVs are in a tearing hurry to get it full on. And how about winding up kidnap? That can wait.

    Mami did surprise me. I had expected this overhearing and changing of loyalty at the first K-S confrontation in RM when everyone was supposed to have gone for pooja.And Sandy did mention that Mami seemed a lot cooler in one of the epis last week. Talk about the power of suggestion! Never expected her to blurt it out like this.
    Why so soon? *sigh* B’coz viewers should not MU Anji now. We all said she’ll blindly listen to VLR. No, she had first hand info from a trusted relative and so she is justified! Can we atleast hope that Anji will be sensible and guard this secret till she gets enough proof. Actually I am so bugged. This is going to stretch on till Monday now?
    The best part in today’s epi: Bitiya hesitating with her plans and then remembers bitwa in danger and hence carries on. Someone said rightly, she has her priorities right.

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  21. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3060953

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    1. forgot MU recipient 3: mami! :p
      although technically mami is #2 and anjali will be #3...
      Misha

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  22. Ladies,

    There is so much happening in IPK. SO much noise or chaos that making sense of any one thing seems such a challenge.

    "Chaos comes before order. There is confusion right before understanding. CHaos is needed to gain a deeper understanding and get back order and equilibrium.
    Somtimes, when you introduce disorder, the chaos that was present before disappears and order is regained"

    Just like the Jago Re ad for Soch Badlo.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc0za3ig0kA&feature=related

    It is time for people's soch to change in the world of IPK - change could be positive or otherwise but change is change.

    So in the words of ASR "Relax, Calm down, gehri saans lo.." and listen to this song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVAT9PEEcwE&feature=player_embedded

    Dhuan dhuan, dhuan dhuan
    Dhuan dhuan, dhuan hi dhuan

    Yeh saazishen dishaaon ki
    Yeh saazishen hawaaon ki
    Lahoo luhaan ho gayi, zameen yeh devtaaon ki
    Naa shankh ki sadaayen hain
    Naa ab sada azaan ki
    Nazar meri zameen ko, lagi hai aasmaan ki
    Hai dar badar yeh log kyon, jale hain kyon makaan

    Dhuan dhuan, dhuan dhuan
    Dhuan dhuan, dhuan hi dhuan

    Yeh kisne aag daal di, hai narm narm ghaas par
    Likha hua hai zindagi, yahan har ek laash par
    Yeh takht ki ladaai hai
    Yeh kursiyon ki jung hai
    Yeh begunaah khoon bhi, siyaasaton ka rang hai
    Lakeer khench di gayi, dilon ke darmiyaan

    And from the movie Aks:
    "Bhala Bura Bura Bhala Hai
    Khote Par Sab Khara Bhala Hai

    Jooth Sach Ka Kya Pata Hai
    Ek Kam Ek Badi Bala Hai
    Chaal Dhaal Sab Ek Jaisi
    Saara Kuch Hi Napa Tula Hai

    Sach Ke Sar Jab Dhuaan Uthe To
    Jooth Aag Mein Jala Hua Hai

    Bhala Bura Bura Bhala Hai
    Khote Par Sab Khara Bhala Hai"


    SN: You think I have lost it, what I said above is very much in the context of the story moving forward!

    After ages it feels good to be playing DJ to a full house

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  23. Shwetha thinking about you since morning today and you have inspired me to write something. So here here it is for you....
    Iss zindagi ke rang hai hazaar
    Kabhi dukh hai kabhi hai khushiyo ke ambaar
    Har rang apni kahaani sunata hai
    Har pal ek naya pehlu lekar aata hai

    Hum kaise maan le haadsa sabse jyada dard pahuchata hai
    Jab pyaar ka dard itna ki saha bhi naa jata hai
    Pyaar main ashq bhi hai aur muskuraahat bhi
    Yeh toe pyaar hi hai jo har pal zindagi mein ek naya rang lekar aata hai....
    Hugs!!!!
    UJ

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    1. Hayyyeee!!!

      UJ do you write professionally. You should consider doing this as a special gift for near and dear ones u know!!

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    2. Sandy thanks a lot for the compliment. But professionally!!!! Taang khich rahe ho kya????? Haven't written for a very long time now. Used to write a lot as a kid. But aaj shwetha ka blag padh ke....
      UJ

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    3. wow!
      touched my heart..
      UJ, beautiful!
      shwetha, ((hugs))

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    4. UJ,
      Beautiful!
      'Used to write a lot as a kid'- You have a gift.

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    5. UJ,

      I agree with sandy you should write more and professionally, you have a way with words- beautiful..

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    6. UJ,

      tang khich rahi hoon *sigh* IPK has this MU contagiousness asar I think :P

      Nahi rrey, I meant it and when you have a special family occasion coming up, cobble up a few lines for the person concerned and thread it together - handmade card / booklet with ur version of poetry. I am telling you it will be a priceless gift.

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    7. UJ, this was beautiful!!!

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    8. Thanks a lots girlys for the compliments and the encouragement....
      Dia ur edit is lovely. Hadnt really thought about kaikeyi manthara angle. Arhi banishment is more acceptable than khushi banishment i think. Question being will mami tell anji what Shyam's reply was? If she does how will Anji react? Will she collapse and will the baby's life threatened. Wouldn't want khushi asking for divorce responsible for anji losing her baby. If she loses her baby it has to be because of shyam and shyam alone. The blame should lie only on his shoulders.
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  24. Ladies,

    Some more mythology to chew on?

    Manorama Mami as Narada or Narada Muni
    Narayana Narayana!!:)

    Narada is linked with both Ramayana and Mahabharatha
    He is fabled to be a troubles aker but only to test people's faith and espouse good
    There is a story about Narada and threading elephants through the eye of a needle - the way how the Lord can do that is explained with the help of the fruit of the banyan tree which houses multiple seeds and within each seed resides a banyan tree.

    Made me think of the 'sitaphal'. A fruit that houses multiple seeds within itself.

    This event occured during Ram Sita vanvaas (aranya kaand I think) - Ram had gone into the forest and Sita went out in search of him. Unable to find him, Sita called out to him all the while shedding tears. When they met Ram is said to have consoled and calmed a distrauht Sita.
    As they walked back to their home, Ram lifted up a weary Sita in his arms and enquired why she ventured out alone.

    In a week, saplings grew in the places where Sita's tears fell when she went looking for Ram and where drops of Ram's sweat had fallen during their return. Saplings born from Sita's tears bore fruits called Sitaphal and saplings born from Ram's sweat bore fruits called Ramphal, the male counterpart of the Sitaphal.

    Upon reaching the ashram, they met Lakshmana who was concerned for them and was anxiously awaiting their return. He was chided by Rama for leaving Sita alone.

    Ironically Sitaphal is green (same colour that Khushi likes) and the Ramphal is red (Arnav's fav colour)

    Phal also reminds me of the Gita - "Karm kiye jaa phal ki ichcha mat kar!" - What you sow so shall you reap!

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    1. Twine,

      tere chaaran kaha hai ??

      Knew these mythological tit bits from Ramayana and Mahabharata.. But never have been able to relate them so intricately. Fantastic !!

      "Karm kiye jaa phal ki ichcha mat kar!" - isn't that what Bitiya's motive now?? and infact even Bitwa's if I accept his line " I don't need anything Khushi, just nothing" if it still holds true ??

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    2. Sandy, dint knew the bg story for sitaphal and ramphal....thanks for sharing it with us.....its connected so well to the current track....

      just wondering, will the khushi kidnapping track (which the cv's wanted to follow, b4 barun's movie came-up) will still happen..... as i assume after this sitaphal thing, Ravan must've kidnapped Sita, isnt it ? so will a similar thing happen in IPK.....

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    3. Sandy,
      Beautiful!
      Bill decoding will take some time for me to grasp.
      What did you major in? Mathematics? History? Mythology? Geography? Literature? I am seeing stars here. Astrology?
      *Hugs*
      Please don't go missing on the weekend again.

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    4. Geetu,

      aare let the first KN track get over !!!! yes CV's were suppose to have Khushi kidnapping sometime after holi i suppose, so may be we can, when the whole truth of shyam is out asking Arnav to transfer the property in return of khushi ?? that sounds interesting..

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    5. Aaru,

      i have this habit of jumping guns *grins* have to learn to hold my horses :D

      the spoilers i had heard bt khushi kidnapping was that payal confronts asr bt khushi's depressing mood and reveals the truth, which VLR overhears....and since VLR's truth is out to Bitwa, he kidnaps Bitiya, hires a fren as cop to inform Bitwa that Bitiya died in an accident......

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    6. Geetu,

      Don't ask me to look into the future yaar :)
      Btw what Khushi is undergoing now is no less than Sita's captivity at Lanka at Ashoka Vatika don't you think?

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    7. no Sandy i won't

      yeah it is an emotional captivity for Sita

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    8. Sandy, thanks! I hadn't heard this story about sitaphal before :))) sitaphal ... from Sita's tears, when Ram went missing ... lovely - and so apt for the current situation. And ends in Ram-Sita milan ... :)))

      NK is really being the faithful Lakshman ... always there to give rock-solid support ... and ready to provide an alibi and witness when he will be required!

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  25. Sandy, never knew why sitaphal is so called....seriously......never knew of ramphal.....u have some knowledge of mytho tales......

    Interesting...me always thot that NK's wordplay is all goofy....soche ka padi now......

    BTW Yaar, tell me one thing if the PH is having an ace up its sleeve in terms of the way they are proceeding with the story telling...they have been steadfast pretty much.....people have been crying no MU and all that, yet they have gone about their tale as they may have decided.....if thats the case, why is their promo so bad? Why are they not able to highlight things in a better manner....or is it their strategy? Them being guarded on the actual twist in the track...not able to decide where it is gud or bad

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    1. Rekha,

      Wordplay when there is a odd word out needs to be thought of, NK or otherwise. But usually NK because his Hindi is supposed to be weak.

      For now, the high point is the milan. Showing anything else in the promo would give their game up is my thought.

      There were a few more things in yday's epi that caught my attention

      1. the Chandni Chowk Devi Mayya mandir - came up at Teej last year I think.

      Plus Mami climbed from the road to the temple in pain.

      2. Anjali is the executor - Shyam's executor has been named. From now on, she will first need to clear her vision of impurities, bring in auspiciousness into herself and finally armed with the knowledge and wisdom execute the man who has deceived her.

      Anjali may react misguidedly but I have a good feeling about how this is all going to go. ASR is going to be the maverick ace ; the googly in the whole upcoming story.


      I am trying to cystallize some thoughts around
      Narada - Parvati - Shiva - clue to finding each other
      Shiva - Parvati tapasya for their actions (Parvati for Sati's actions in her past and to try and understand why Shiva did penance for her. Shiva for being unable to prevent Sati's destruction)
      Shiva's Rudra Tandava when Sati immolated herself
      Shiva's burning down of Kamadeva (Cupid) for trying to influence him
      Parvati's declaration of why only Shiva can and will be her soulmate
      The marriage of Shiv and Parvati to bring down Tarakasura

      SN: Shiva Parvati have been one of my all time favs - thanks to Amar Chitra Katha :)

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    2. Talking about Ashoka Vatika reminded me of Vaidehi and hence the thoughts below. Take the spirit of the thought not the actual happening and sequence.

      1. Anjali's life so far has been like her being in an Ashoka Vatika (A-shoka = without shok / unhappiness). She is the Janaki who was adopted by Mama Mami
      She is the Mythili who was chereished by her Nani and her brother
      She thinks herself to be the Sita lucky to have a husband like Ram in her life (Sita was won by Ram in a Swayamvar and Anjali's hand was 'won' / taken by Shyam in some such public circumstances)
      She then became pregnant with her husband's child and her world was complete

      2. She is now or soon going to be in pain, held captive because of her unacceptance of Ravana and expects Ram to rescue her from this Lanka.(alomost like the Raavan story that Mani Ratnam made where the Ram is in reality the dark character)

      3. She seems to be at the point now where she will have to give an agni-pareeksha; trial by fire

      4. She has complete faith that "her lord" will accept her wholeheartedly after this and they will return home to their kingdom. And they did for a short while.

      5. But in the actual story, Ram abandoned a pregnant Sita who lived in a hermitage to give birth to Lav and Kush

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    3. sandy, what yaar? here i am trying to pack for a 2 months vacation, and you have pulled out all ppl in the puranas!! sita, gita, shiva, sati.... even narada!! now forget krishna and hanuman, start on aesop's fables, and grimm fairytales.. :D

      my head is too full right now, and everyone, consider this my leave application! will keep watching the show and coming here to read, but writing will depend on the availability of internet and computers through all the places i go. will definitely miss chatting will each and every one of you, but dont worry, i'll be around! ((hugs))

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    4. J,

      u pulling my leg *pout pout* - haan haan now I will bring in the cats and dogs of my mohalla too :P:P

      Dude, Sita, Hanuman, Krishna, Shiva Parvati, Sati - were in the picture already.

      Only new addition is Narada.

      Maiiyyaaa u r going on 2 month long chutti - hum sab BBE ke binaa kaisan rahenge - come on tells me pleeej!!!

      Huggs J - Have a ala time wherever you are going...You will be missed

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    5. Well one more *ducks to avoid flying objects*

      (J this is all bcos u told me to think of fables and mind landed on Harry Potter and Prisoner of Azkaban)

      Azkaban, a place that is meant to hold you within its walls by draining out hope and sucking out happiness. Sirus Black was incarcerated there for a crime he did not commit but he remained sane because his only thoughts were not of escape but of guilt. Guilt for having failed in his duty.

      Then came a day he realized Peter Pettigrew was alive and his target was Harry Potter. Realizing the urgency to get to Harry and protect him, Sirius Black decided to escape from Azkaban. He returned weakened and even though Harry initially was terrified of him, together they managed to unmask teh true face of Peter Pettigrew.

      Peter Pettigrew was scum that had been in hiding waiting for the right time so that he would not be accused of treachery. He needed to be sure of the direction of the tides before raising his head.

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    6. J, two months vacation???!!! Some people have all the luck!!! Enjoy yourself and have fun ... and yes, keep popping in from time to time with your eagle eye for blooper spotting! Will miss you!

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  26. Either Arnav will support Khushi and both will leave RM (less probably scenario since Daljeet said in her interview that future episodes will focus on the brother-sister envious bond again).. or Anjali might go into a shock and somehow harm her baby (maybe!) and hence, Arnav will become illogical again and Khushi will be kicked out of RM.
    And it will take a while before NK could prove Khushi's innocence. I have a feeling that Shyam might again find some refuge but that will be highly frustrating.

    MK

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  27. This is highly frustrating, if it is true that the writers gave in to daljeet's demand IMO this is unprofessional, have never seen anything like this. They do remember that this is a love story right? Well I hope they do. First bs movie and then now db's demand of screen space, I wish they should let her go. I mean the actors are not the boss of the writers right? It's the other way around. ~cheng

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    1. Cheng,
      Hi!
      Long time na!
      I don't think they give in to anyone's demands other than Barun and Sanaya. Everyone including Daljeet knows that she is not indispensable. Anjali track was bound to happen sometime or the other. Maybe this is the best time.
      We are all bugged that this is stretching on. But keeping our faith that monsoon will come.

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    2. Su,

      Huggs! I said the exact same thing to Mads below :)

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    3. Hey Cheng....

      ASR to choose between Di and Khushi was always on the cards.... Gul had mentioned in the interview that 'Arnav will destroy Khushi's life and later realize how wrong he was and then how he balances between Anjali and Khushi is the crux of the story'

      We are assuming that Daljeet has hastened the plot....what shud've happened after a couple of months is happening now, when we are not sure if ASR-KKG MU is clear or not....

      also i had assumed that the drama will be something on the lines of Anjali feeling insecure cause she is not the most important person in her chotte's life anymore and that they have started hiding things from her....this will create a rift between khushi-anjali and shyam will add his poison to it.... Anjali thinking of Khushi having an affair with Shyam is a googly, esp after she saw the way Khushi was missing Arnav when he left for london/scotland...

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    4. I asked this Qn on the Rangmunch article and I ask again. Arnav / ASR already had his chance between Di and Khushi and he chose Di.

      Would it not make more sense for Anjali to have to make a choice now between Chotey and Shyam?

      And yday her first thought was for Chotey. Besides if Anji is as rosy tinted glasses as she has been potrayed, she will want to protect chotey AND give Shyam a chance at redemption / repentance.

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    5. Sandy, Anji keeping mum for chotey won't happen cause everytime Khushi-Arnav are close to confession something happens to drift them apart, and now they have confessed...so they will spent some rabba ve moments b4 reaching RM, but once they reach, the bomb blast happens...drifting them apart......

      Arnav may or maynot trust Khushi, depending on the situation...(his heart may, but his mind though doesnt MU her but is confused) and once he knows the truth....then he will go for her...and then Anji will have to choose between Shyam and Chote.......she will choose Shyam initially, but Shyam is used to digging his own grave he will do that again...and she will realize the whole truth.....

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  28. ok..I am going to be blatantly honest..I am not having good feelings towards Daljeet Bhanot. Or, as somebody mentioned above, if she hadn't declared the fact that she negotiated with the CVs public, maybe I would have felt slightly better towards her. Because its obvious, the story is being manipulated to suit her needs...

    @dia and aaru : I am having a strong dejavu here... I hope things dont get as ugly as they had been when RP had issues abt her character and storyline.. atleast I can say that her frustration then was valid, since MJHT was supposed to be about two love stories.. here, the name itself suggests 'iss pyar ko kya naam doon?' meaning, the crux of the show IS and will ALWAYS be a love story... agree, it is also abt the bro-sis raizadas...but that is probably the second most imp thing...not the first..I don't understand why she is making such a fuss.. I dont see the other veteran actors in the show saying anything..or even if they are, its not reaching the public ears..

    anyhow, if I were to ignore the fact that daljeet was behind the introduction of this sudden twist and MU in the show and just imagine that this is what the writers intended to show in the first place, even then...some things make absolutely no sense to me -

    1. like dia said, how come mami has all of a sudden stopped using her brains? she has seen with her own eyes how worried khushi is abt arnav missing.. plus she knows that arnav is kidnapped..what abt the strong bonding they shared a couple of weeks ago? Now I can understand why they suddenly stopped the bonding b/w the two of them and why they kept mami out of the loop of all the khushi-NK sluething.. they were probably building up for this... chalo, woh bhi understandable hai, ki mami is not expected to choose parayi ladki over her family..obviously she will first believe in her own family..care abt her own family.. still, its irritating and hurtful to see that khushi lost the trust of even mami.

    2. what has making shyam sign the divorce pprs got to do with him taking her towards the plc where arnav is kidnapped? or is it just to make him believe her even more that she is out for revenge? I can understand her making him sign the will (however illogical it may be) to ensure that she rights the wrong she has done... but divorce? and then worrying that di doesnt find out about this? if her motive is to keep di away from shyam because he is evil, then she has to tell di..and if her motive is to protect di because she wont be able to tolerate this 'sadma'..then what good is making shyam signing the divorce pprs going to do? :S

    I am thoroughly confused...hope tonight's episode brings some answers.. and please, CVs, let ArHi meet in this week atleast..!

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    1. 'the crux of the show IS and will ALWAYS be a love story...'
      It will be. I feel they are just testing the love at different levels. I also feel that the story will always be about Arhi only.And that is why Daljeet is not indispensable. She will be missed, but she can always be replaced.

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    2. Madsieee,

      Gehri saans lo!!! Inhale Exhale!!

      Now IPKKND is all about shades of love - different kinds (akin to the movie Love Actually). The love story is the binding thread of the plot whatever maybe the circumstances so it is not getting sidelined.

      DB's grouse with PH should have been about being shown preggers in the show I think. She is yet to have a baby bump and by the 5th / 6th month u have to start showing.

      Rest these drama quotients were always meant to happen. Why now - well am sure there is something good around the corner.

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    3. @ Mads,
      My first reaction to DB ‘s notice was the same, it’s going to be on lines with RP , although when DB was signed- it was Di ki saut " so she would have been a parallel lead but not a main one just like RP..
      One more thing that surprised me was PH agreeing to it, even when the DB fan base isn't as strong as RP.
      May be they did have this track in mind all along, but had to get it fore front because of DB.

      And agree with you on the logical part of mami going head fast with telling Anji even if it’s in her character, but she does tend to be smart and analysing also , why did they not show her even once to think how K could do this ? What I saw few days back is truth or now what I am seeing truth? In any case Anji should be warned ?? I would have accepted the MU more easily .

      And don't ask for reasons of divorce, I have been breaking my head with a reason, only logical thing I can get this case is in case something happens to Arnav , and Shyam claims to be the sole owner of the property, than she can get these papers out and say that he had signed it which is latest changes along with the divorce papers which will give Anji her rights and get her out of his hold...
      Since they don't know of the conditions laid by Arnav in regards to his will.
      I really wish with all these legal things she would have even signed a paper stating she takes no claims or rights in Arnav's property. That would be "sone pe shuaga" , and throw back at Mrs ASR.

      Now with the breaking the bond b/w mami and khushi - they might even show arhi MU .. I have lost the faith in the tele convo of Arhi also..
      the only hope there I have is , that they can't have one more MU as well as Arhi separation together and lose the whole set of non saas bhau viewers...

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    4. Aaru : assuming that they signed the paper, incase something happens to ASR, that means she doesnt want to save ASR, she just doesnt want Shyam to get the property, doesnt make much sense........i think she was trying to goad him to believe that she wants ASR alive and to win her trust he will have to release ASR unharmed.....so that she can hurt ASR and then he can win her.......but why the signing of WILL thats still a question mark...

      Mads : another MU if happens between ArHi, wud ideally be the last one...cause trp baba wont allow for more......(it mite not happen, but just saying)

      also think of it this way, Khushi was stained because of Shyam (grease stain).... to remove the stain, she has to scrub herself hard, during the process she will get hurt...but eventually she will cleanse herself of all the dirt....

      this is the only thought thats consoling me from the day Anji saw Khushi feeding Kheer to Shyam

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    5. Geetu,

      you again reminded me of Holi epi.

      Especially the part where Khushi washes her face with rose water and then Arnav comes looking for her and she tells him how she feels around him. He carries her back to the polside and washes away the colour on her face.

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    6. that holi sequence was awesome, wasnt it, Sandy

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    7. Mads and cheng ... as others have already said, I don't think DB's threats would make the writers change the entire storyline ... at most, they might have have made them either bring in her MU a little early ... or more likely, she might not want to go too grey and there may have been issues about that.

      The Arnav vs Anjali track was always on the cards ever since the tentative title was known - Didi ki Sout ... a brother will have a tough time to choose, but he will have to make that choice for sure ...

      Also, in the initial story sketch, it was actually the brother-sister bond that was center of the story, and how the entry of the heroine changes it ... the love story took off because of the unprecedented chemistry of the leads and took complete center stage.

      I remember a very heated discussion with a couple of MJHT friends, who were not keen that Sanaya do this show, because the outline of the story at that time seemed to indicate that the brother and sister would be the main focus, and Khushi would only be a catalyst, she would be the love interest but nothing more than that. So that must be what Daljeet was promised as well - she would not be the main romantic lead, but she would be one out of four main leads, the fourth being Shyam. Look at it that way, and yes, she has been short-changed in terms of character - the other three have shown major growth and changes, while she has diminished as a character if anything ... and because of this need for Arhi and Shyam to hide everything major from Di, she has been pretty much sidelined in the recent track, and the GH one before that too.

      Dunno if that was her major crib ... in which case it is justified and I for one, would welcome Di doing more than just cry and have hysterics ... if she would turn grey, it would be interesting, and as we discussed, such a devout woman could never turn black, so this would give her character some room for growth ...

      But if it was all about the baby bump, I have no sympathy for her ... as a married woman, she should have been prepared for that one. Either way, making this discussion so public wasn't in very good taste and has diminished my regard for her ... so you will probably see me picking more holes in Anjali's character and DB's acting from now on! :))) I'm mean!!!

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    8. Dia...."so you will probably see me picking more holes in Anjali's character and DB's acting from now on! :))) I'm mean!!!"

      *rofl*....

      Heroines in telly land have a short shelf life...there are main leads in 2 serials max and then they are MA to someone just a couple of years younger than them...I am not saying that is fair...i am only saying thats how their industry works so not having bargained for a baby bump in a married woman's role is the height of delusion...

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  29. Dia,

    Nice edit. I like the Manthara-Kaikeyi bit. Kaikeyi called in a vachan owed to her leading to Ram banwaas and Sita chose to follow him.

    I am waiting to see if they play some more with Arnav finding the KN's phone the first time round. He could always ring up the number Boss and have heard Shyam's voice or he sees the no and knows its Shyam. Is that the sudden need to push the pawns to give up the king. Feint a blow to get a response?

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    1. Dia,

      I am also game for it not being a dream! Let mami tell it all to Anjali and let her go on to tell Anjali how she almost melted towards Khushi given that Arnav was kidnapped. Agar sach bolna hi hai toh poora sach bol hi do naa..

      And yep by the time ladies come home, NK and Khushi are missing in search of Arnav. When they all get back, or maybe NK gets back first, ArHi later RM is in an explosive state.

      I am feeling the buzz after a long time.

      SN: The will is a joke because none of this matters. It is only a sutradhar in taking the story forward. For Shyam it will always have to be a choice between AR wealth and Khushi.

      My guess on why divorce papers was kinda there. Of course the undoing earlier sign matters but Shyam let go of the bird in hand for the one he saw in the bush. ANd now he will be in a hurry to dispose of Arnav?

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    2. Sandy, I do hope that Arnav's sudden return of confidence is not just because of BS's return, but because Arnav has figured out who the Boss is :))) Because they did make it clear that KN didn't get his phone back, he bought a new one. Hopefully Arnav has been putting some of his mechanic skills to good use!

      If we're talking about loops, when Khushi and NK went to get ghee for the havan, Arnav followed them, listened to their explanations, then sent NK back home so that he could have some alone time with wifey ;)

      So this time too, NK-Khushi go looking for Arnav, find him, Arnav hears their story about how no one except Mami know he's been kidnapped ... and HOPEFULLY that Shyam is the KN ... Arnav dispatches NK back home to soothe everyone, so that he can go somewhere and clean up, and he doesn't want to alarm the gharwalas - or Di ... and get his alone time with wifey of course! :)))

      Am looking forward to the post-finding Arnav part ... until he is found, we can guess what happens, but we have no clue what will happen after that ...

      And agree, the signing of papers was just a red herring ... doesn't mean anything much, because anyway Arnav is coming back alive!

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  30. totally off-topic, but still...
    just heard that Nora Ephron passed away yesterday..she was behind classics like When Harry Met Sally and Sleepless in Seattle...great film-maker...even her recent Julie and Julia was a sweet movie...respect to the amazing personality.... RIP, Nora Ephron..
    Misha

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  31. Okay thats it I've read every single comment and now I'm super confused and can think of hundreds of different options but there's only one thing I can really be a hundred percent I want..

    Arnav Singh Raizada breaking the hell out..I don't want his wifey saving him I want him to break out. Also before any more story progress I want a well deserved good rabba vey (advice to cv's -use the monsoon to your advantage).

    Whether he believes or misunderstands Khushi is upto the CV's and star demands but ASR persona better be back...no more rothdu ASR and no more dragging. ASR better get decent 15 minute screen time...enough of Shyaam and Anjali they're boring me...!!

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    1. Gargss,

      Tathaastu! after reading my sitaphal waal comment u doubt that RV?? and tears monsoon - sab hoga - btw when did that rain hug epi air last yr?

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    2. Gargi,

      SHIDDAT..i want ASR only for a few days...Khushi ke saath romance karle, office jaa, one-liners use ker, kuch bhi kar..bas shyamu, anjali aur baaki sab ko replace kar!!
      waise bhi biwi nee bohot kaam kar liya...ab teri baari hai!!!!

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  32. Wow sime lovely lovely conments.
    Sandy love the mytho ki baarish and hope ki ek dhuwadhaar baarish IPK mein bhi ho. All they need to do is call a round table conference with all RM vaasis and GH vaasis and thrash out the MUs but ausa hoga nahi warna humein drama kaise milega?

    Bhagavat gita was narrated by krushna to arjuna just before the kurukshetra war coz Arjuna was not sure if he was doing the right thing or not. Krishna through his narration convinced Arjuna that it was the right thing to do. Arnav and khushi's stary convo where K tell A ye toe vishwas ki baat. The one thing that A really lacks is vishwas and he has had that narration now. Although arjuna was convinced that its the right thing to do after the narration he was never completely happy with the war with fighting his own. Similarly although A now has the much needed vishwas it will be hard for him to fight/go against his di and R family and stand bu khushi but stand by her he will coz that is the right thing to do.
    I also felt that mami telling anji the truth was a bit like hanumaan lagaoing aag in lanka with his tail. Mami ne chingari toe laga di hai aur chingari will become a full blown fire and lead to a war. It's a matter of time.
    Arjuna is responsible for bhishma demise. Bhishma was very happy that it was arjuna who freed him of his shapath. Shapath that had become a curse for him. Similarly, arnav will be the one to reveal the truth to Anji (although anji might even hear Shyam gloating about it) and anji although heartbroken will be relieved to come out of the marriage that has absolutely no meaning to it.
    UJ

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    1. UJ,

      One more thought crossed the mind - "kal shaam suraj dhalne se pehle main yahaan se bhaag jaaonga" - almost like Arjuna's vow to take revenge for Abhimanyu before sundown the next day nai?

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    2. Sandy Hugs this did not cross my mind. It is absolutely true. So will the boss turn up at the warehouse? Will Shyam's identity be revealed to him? Was it a bewildered look that ASR was sporting in the milan promo? Suraj dhalne se pehle will A and S have their 1 on 1? Ufff!!!!! Come on CVs suspense is killing....
      UJ

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    3. Uj, nice!!! I hadn't thought of it in these terms at all ... in terms of Arnav fighting that war with his family. And his ending Di's marriage ... that part is very true, because that marriage has to break.

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  33. I was going to ask Dia about the title.
    Googled it and got it, so no need to trouble Dia.
    If there are other ignorant people like me out there, this is for you. Purely c&P from wiki:

    'hoist with one's own petard', means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall into one's own trap," literally implying that one could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one's own bomb.
    A petard was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications. The term has a French origin and dates back to the sixteenth century

    William Shakespeare used the now proverbial phrase "hoist with his own petard" in Hamlet, in which the word "hoist" is the (now archaic) past participle of the earlier form "hoise" for the verb "hoist".[3][4]
    In the following passage, the "letters" refer to instructions (written by his uncle Claudius, the King) to be carried sealed to the King of England, by Hamlet, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, the latter being two schoolfellows of Hamlet. The letters, as Hamlet suspects, contain a death warrant against Hamlet, who will later open and modify them to instead request the execution of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. Enginer refers to a military engineer, the spelling reflecting Elizabethan stress.
    There's letters seal'd: and my two schoolfellows,
    Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd,
    They bear the mandate; they must sweep my way
    And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;
    For 'tis the sport to have the enginer
    Hoist with his own petar; and 't shall go hard
    But I will delve one yard below their mines
    And blow them at the moon: O, 'tis most sweet,
    When in one line two crafts directly meet.

    After modifying the letters, Hamlet escapes the ship and returns to Denmark. Hamlet's actual meaning is "cause the bomb maker to be blown up with his own bomb", metaphorically turning the tables on Claudius, whose messengers are killed instead of Hamlet. Also note here, Shakespeare's probable off-color pun "hoist with his own petar", i.e., flatulate, as the reason for the spelling "petar" rather than "petard".

    So, GREAT title!
    Thanx Dia, for making me take my mind off IPK for some time.

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  34. Girls,

    Did not know that i have to now dig this deep in to Hindu mythology/folklore/epics for decoding a hindi serial...

    I actually thot my info on it is reasonably gud....but i guess i know less that i thot i did....

    Sandy...Narada means a wisdom giver......will mami dig deeper to get to the wisdom of things...narada had an inimitable style of letting his wisdom take shape....he had the advantage of knowledge and used it to let Lord's will prevail....Will mami uses her nosiness or nardaness to let DM's will prevail?

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    1. Rekha,

      Absolutely! I do believe so that mami with her nosiness though seemingly making trouble will actually make way for DM's will or good to happen. And she is like Narad na - making gossip, doing chugli but always meaning well and no real harm at the end of the day.

      The other reason Narad appeals is because of the Hari Mukh incident with Narad which resulted in him cursing Vishnu with separation from his wife in one of his avatars and only a moneky being able to help him save his wife and bring them together (Ram - Sita - Hanuman) :)

      Plus Shiva initially rebukes and rejects Parvati due to her darkness. When she is heartbroken on being separated from him, it is Narada who preaches to her about doing sincere penance to attain Shiva eventually leading to Shiva accepting Parvati.

      This is one thing about IPK which fascinates me. Maybe teh writer is influenced maybe not but I am able to connect to the serial on the lines of music, movies, myth and it just makes it all so much more fun and appealing.

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    2. Sandy,

      Agree on Mami as the Narad as well as she actually making a way for goodness by telling the truth at the temple.
      Anji had to know, the only thing stored was the time and by whom, mami fits the bill to T,
      For one like Narad she needs to talk and know about everything around herself, hence her step towards inbestigation when K left her out of loop.
      Like Narad when she knows the things she needs to go and confied the truth to the person concerned, she did exactly that, she never thought the consequences and that is what not sitting good with ... Agree today she got the shock of her life and she is emotional. But at least a small dil/dimaag thinking and justification to the bond they had for those few days!!

      But ones she will know about the truth she isn't going to stop.
      Like Narad she will guide Anji to penance to attain the forgiveness from both khushi and arnav..

      Sandy agree - for me too its fascination to connect to different aspects of knowledge which we have gained thru experencing our life.
      although don't I have a say with words !! love to read different views which add little more masala to knowledge we have ...

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    3. Aaru,

      See you thought of Mami pushing Anji whereas in my mind I was only thinking of Mami pushing Khushi towards Arnav.

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  35. @ Sandy

    ‘I asked this Qn on the Rangmunch article and I ask again. Arnav / ASR already had his chance between Di and Khushi and he chose Di.

    Would it not make more sense for Anjali to have to make a choice now between Chotey and Shyam?’

    Sandy,
    So much has happened from then.That was a time when ASR was aware of his feelings, but he did not know of her feelings. He was taking a risk by confessing to her, because she had not responded after diwali. Remember how he tried to get “ILU” out of her after her kiss. He was desperate to get to know about her feelings.
    Now, the whole Arhi equation has changed, even though Khushi never got to prove her innocence. ASR has not got any new proof that his dil speaks the truth more than his dimag. Still, something happened between the airport and the Arhipathy.(Of course lots! What I mean is there has been introspections on both sides.)
    ASR’s introspection started in the GH after he witnessed 2 convos( with friends and Garima) which made him see Khushi in a different light. His thought process STARTED there. Her explanation of the terrace scene, he desperately wanted to believe, but she could not explain the hug and the dialogue. He still wanted to give her a chance to prove herself, which is why he came out of the airport….That last dialogue:” Why am I feeling like this about leaving her?” –him looking at HIS FEELINGS.
    Kidnap chair fbs: she has cared for him in so many ways.
    That ILU- maybe “I LOVE YOU, KHUSHI even though I don’t know if you love me as much as I love you”.
    The hut scene- his realization that she loves him back, that is why she took the trouble to come looking for him and was willing to give herself to him. And he knew her love would make her sacrifice even her safety, hence the hit on her head.
    Teri- meri: beautiful realization explained so well by you and Ayesha.

    We have discussed all this over and over again. We don’t have ASR’s introspection,(which will remain a mystery for some more time) so it is all ‘MAYBE’
    But the last Arhipathy, both of them are CLEAR about their feelings for each other. Now they are seeing that the feelings are MUTUAL. ( They know this in their hearts, but it may not be evident when they actually meet in person. I think they will still be shy about their feelings when they meet next)

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    1. Therefore, shall we put ASR to test again and see how he fares this time?
      But this time, I feel he may not even be given a choice.
      I feel Khushi will walk out of his life and save him from the dilemma of choosing between Di and her.
      Remember the last scene inTM2: She walks away and he looks on unbelievingly. He may not even know the real reason behind her leaving.
      Is this possible? Ask the CVs.
      They’ve screwed up big time with NK in the loop and jumping to Anji MU. I take back my words.
      I bow to the CVs’ wisdom because I’ve been proven wonderfully wrong before too.

      Remember, I wrote about the MU clearing in 2 steps and how they had jumped 2 steps at one go. I remember you writing that 2 steps may have made more sense. Actually it doesn’t. Remember the silent treatment Khushi gave ASR(B&B). It lasted only for one day. That was actually the best among all the methods she had chosen. Do you know why the CVs made her revert back to OTT?
      The silent Khushi would have been unbearable for ASR and he would have realized his feelings then and there in another 2 days. If the MU had cleared in 2 steps, Khushi would have kept out of his way out of guilt and that would have made him seek her out. I feel they are jumping 2 steps here also, but there is a reason for it. We will find it retrospectively. (Just like there is a reason for mami being the one to inform Anji.)

      To answer your Q, you yourself answered the importance of Anji in IPK.
      After Arhi, I feel the best character they’ve developed is mami’s. Maybe she will be the first one to realize her mistake when the explosion settles down. The trouble maker might be the trouble shooter ultimately for the rest of the family.

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    2. Su,

      Thank u for replying! Huggs!

      Dekhte hain how the CVs take this.

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  36. Jaya,
    Watched the diwali link you posted yesterday.
    Just like you said, that ‘kis mitti ki bani hai’ look! Didn’t something else strike you?
    Khushi’s fake bubbly behaviour, ASR’s confused look, the entire car convo where he repeats the gold digger dialogue- it is like the same sequence replayed after the suicide terrace. Recently someone in R&R had mentioned that events repeat with Arhi. So true! Even after the highway confrontation, ASR had told her that she is now inventing a new story to trap him. But he so desperately wanted to believe her now.

    Actually I felt bad for ASR after watching the diwal epis. Poor guy, he kept denying the truth about his love and the day he decided to accept it and confess it, the whole gold digger angle was thrown on his face again and added to it the ‘di ki souten’ shock. Almost felt like he is justified in doing what he did. The contract wedding has been an equal torture for him and now he has to go through RTR also! He has to bear the cross twice over!
    He’d better think twice before MUing her again.* wicked smile*

    Hey, happy hols! Will miss you loads!
    Who will tell us about the bloopers now?
    2 months is too long. Please make your appearance whenever you can!

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    1. Hey J,

      2months of holiday??? thats great and enjoy your self, and do come and give BBE updates regularly..
      And we will miss you , so come back here whenever you have time ..

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  37. J,

    Have a wonderful vacation.....do read all our mad comments....we will try to spot bloopers but don't expect too much from us....Thats ur baby ..we will expect an blooper omnibus on ur return....

    Have a grt grt time...and when ARHI have their milan....we will have an ARHIPATHY with u....

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  38. BTW,why Kiddu is not tying up apna bitwa....out of ropes.....is he? Jaya, i am trying BBEgiri practice......hehehe...but u get back soon

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  39. Just realized -
    when ODB&G had everything going for them - when romance was in full swing and there was no reason to disbelieve her - ODB went ahead and MU-ed the love of his life

    and now when there will be proof against her (mami overhearing the wrong things, her getting the signatures etc etc) - i just know ODB will not MU her anymore

    More than anything else - it was his own past, his own insecurities that had led to it - now that he knows and believes in his love for her - there will be no more MUs!! :D:D:D

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