Friday, March 2, 2012

2/3 - Epi 200 ... I Hate you ... Because You have the Power to Hurt Me

2nd Mar Fri

My title after the first half of the episode was going to be Unravelling ... the DVD coming to Mami, Anjali and Nani figuring out what really happened at the pag phera ... and Anjali realizing more and more that Arnav and Khushi are both hiding something from the family.

And then ArHi happened ... :) :) :)

I love, love, love ArHi confrontations ... these two actors just take them to a different level completely ... :">

Mandir scene - one more rite of marriage - Arnav acknowledges Khushi as his wife publicly in Devi Maiyya's mandir - the wedding carried out in the dead of night with no witnesses, now is approved and sanctioned in the same mandir in front of Devi Maiyya herself and a hundred other people ... and Khushi's bidaai takes place from her divine mother's house as Arnav declares her to be his wife, and carries her out in front of the world.Again loved the expression in Khushi's eyes as he carries her out ... again searching, searching ... looking desperately for answers ... she can't hide her despair, her hope, her sadness ... what was happening between them, and what happened ... why?!

Payash ... am liking Akash more and more - he reassures Babuji that Khushi will be accepted by his family, he will take care. Didn't like Buaji returning Khushi's shagun :( Forgave Garima slightly for giving Khushi her pag phera shagun ... although she said she would never forgive her - Garimaji, you will have to eat your words some time.

Arnav Khushi enter the house with another small spat - again Arnav reminds Khushi he doesn't want to upset Di, Khushi refusing to hold his hand ... you go girl!!! ... but gives in because she doesn't want to upset Anjali either ... and she covers for him again to Anjali ... yes, everything was all right ...

Arnav was scared as to what Khushi would say ... would she give him away, would she say anything to Anjali ... but no, she covered for him ... as usual ...and Anjali was relieved ... for the moment.
Arnav wants to talk to Khushi in their room ... call me foolish, but I went hayyeeee at that one :"> ... keeping their fights very private as always ... Manodrama's snide remark about "private talks" :)

Again loved the way Khushi closed the door so firmly ... okay, we're alone, now talk ... and I want answers ...
And again their confrontation, heated, fiery, fierce back and forth ... until she tells him ... do you even know how much you hurt me ... and he comes right back with ... and how about how much you hurt me???!!!
And Khushi goes silent ... utterly and completely baffled, shell-shocked ... what does he mean??? She???!!! ... hurt him???!!! ... when ... how ... what did she do ...???

But even revealing that much was tough for him ... he can't reveal his own vulnerability, his huge insecurity, the enormous hurt, the anguish he went through when he saw her with Shyam ... he falls silent ...
No, Khushi is not having that ... she physically blocks his way ... tiny fierce little tigress ... not this time, you don't run away ... what did I do??? How did I hurt you ... you have to tell me ...

Did I mention that I LOVE these fierce ArHi confrontations???!!! And simply loved Khushi's fearlessness ... and Arnav's passion ... both actors were fabulous!!! 

*sigh* ... Anjali, can you stop disturbing a newlywed couple - he said he wanted to talk to his wife in private ... do you not understand what that means??? Okay, Payash told you that Khushi is not yet forgiven by her family, that she and Arnav were lying ... but seriously, do you have to investigate right away???!!!

And Arnav runs away ... as usual ... from his feelings, from his wife's questions ... from facing his fears ...
Anjali questions Khushi ... Khushi admits that yes, everyone is angry with her, everyone hates her ... her parents, Payal, even Anjali ... Anjali corrects her, no, we don't hate you, but we're hurt at what you and Chotey did ... why you did it this way ...
What is Khushi to reply ... when she doesn't have the answers herself? And for once, she runs away as well ...

The CU made me change the title of this post :)) ... I changed it again to the main theme ... :)

Khushi is disturbed ... very disturbed ... and she's making jalebis =D> I was waiting for that one!!!
And as she fires, she thinks ... first her frustration and anger ... what do I reply to everyone, when I don't know the answers myself ... and the one who has the answers, won't give them ...
And then the moment we were all waiting for ... =D> bitiya ke dimaag ki batti jai ... that trip to her DM's temple was fruitful in more ways than one ...
How did I hurt him ... what did I do ...
Could he have found out about Shyamji and ...

Dia juming up and down in joy ... bitiya ki batti jali!!! :)) <:-P
Note of caution ... for Chrissake, don't go to ask RS about this ... go directly to Arnav ...
SN - what happened about the 2 hour challenge?

*edited - finally!!!* Blame two rounds of unsuccessful download attempts for the delay :(

Have incorporated some symbolic interpretations from Sathya's post for the first scene, which I found very apt ...
Arnav sees Khushi, Khushi sees Arnav ... in the mandir of the goddess whom he doesn't believe in, and she has forsworn very recently,  ... but still her footsteps automatically took her there when she was thrown out of her own maayka, with her pag phera rasam incomplete ... and he followed when the bell struck - this was the only place she could be ...
She entered the temple to find a refuge because she thought she had nowhere else to go ... she didn't want to attend the aarti, to pray, because she felt her friend had left her side, she was sulking, she had no intention of re-approaching her ... he of course, never entered with the intent of going anywhere near DM ... he entered the temple only to find his Khushi.
And in their game of hide and seek, both went closer and closer to the Mother ... till they were standing at her feet ... and DM had the last laugh ... you said you would not come to me, and yet here you are, both of you ...
 - never again, Arnav, make the claim that you write your destiny, because DM just showed you very comprehensively that you don't ...
 - and never again, Khushi, tell your Mother that you won't talk to her because she left your side, because she didn't, and she's just about to prove it to you ...

So Arnav calls out furiously to Khushi, what are you trying to do, come home with me right now ... she tries to ignore him, and he loses it and shouts ... creating pin-drop silence all round ... oops, did he just do that? Shout out to his wife in the middle of a temple ... all eyes on him ... on them ... Well, he can never stand it if she ignores him ...
What the hell do you think you're doing?!
One brave bystander interjects, Arnav tells him that it's their personal matter, butt out!

And that's enough to raise her temper ...
Don't talk to me like that in front of everyone! And what are you even doing here?
He's mad, he just went nuts looking for her all over town, and as usual she's hale and hearty, and fighting fit ... how many times does this make it that she disappeared on him and didn't answer his calls, worried him to pieces and then reappeared without a scratch?
Stop this drama and go sit in the car!
No, I won't!  I'm not going anywhere with you ... I'm mad and upset, and you'd better know it ... wifespeak again ... :))
Hubby loses his temper ... oh, he never found it since it went missing ... Khushi, listen to me or else ...
Or else what?! What will you do? Pick me up and carry me out?!
That was a direct challenge, and ODB never turns down a direct challenge, especially not from ODG.
Khushi, I can do that too ... and you know it ... 
Oh yes, she does, maybe subconsciously that's why she issued it ... ;) ... and hang on, did he just acknowledge that she knows him well enough ...
You can't ...
Khushi, I'm warning you  ... don't push my buttons ... now when did she ever not do that? So he grabs her hand as the first step, and she fights him off ... but of course ...
Leave me ...
Innocent bystander decides to risk his neck again ... don't manhandle the girl, that's not nice ...

Pat comes the answer, without even thinking about it ... You stop interfering, this is my wife and I'm taking her home with me ... you have a problem with that? Anybody want to try stopping me?
Khushi stops struggling and stares ... DM gives a big satisfied chuckle ... =)) Mission accomplished.

Barely two nights ago (in IPK Narnia land) he married her in the middle of the night, DM their only witness, and told her he would never acknowledge her status or her rights as his wife ... today, in front of a multitude of witnesses he did both ... she belongs to me, and I'm taking her home. 
She came to DM's mandir feeling completely lost ... homeless and alone ... she leaves with her husband, going to their home, acknowledged in the eyes of the world as his lawful wedded wife ...

And just in case she thought he forgot her challenge, he picks her up in his arms and walks down the temple steps with her ... her bidaai from her mother's house, and her grihapravesh into her husband's ... the car is almost their home, seeing the number of very private ArHi moments it has seen ...
And Khushi stares at him as he walks ... her eyes filling, all fight gone ... she is his wife, she belongs to him ... she finally belongs, she has a place of her own ...
But under what circumstances ... where they were and where they are now, so much has happened, and she doesn't even understand the reasons why ...
Loved the look he gave her as he picked her up ... I can do this, you are mine ... I have the right ...
And hers as he walked ... yes, you have, I never denied that ... but why this way ... does it have to be this way?

And the pause at the end of the steps ... she wipes her tears, still questioning him with her eyes, then looking down and holding him again ... I wanted this always, but why this way ...?
You are mine, that's all that matters ...

We wanted him to carry her over the threshold - at latest count, he's carried her over the threshold of his house, his room, from her divine maayka into his car ...

Khushi recovers her fight in the car, Arnav has had enough ... stop the drama, you know I don't like it.
Again - you know ... again acknowledging that he knows she knows him ... knows a lot about him ... she's his wife, after all ...
And he should know her well enough to know that shutting her up isn't so easy ...
Yeah? What about the drama you did in carrying me out in front of everyone ...?
He finally shuts her up ... don't say another word till we reach home now ... Mulishly, sulking, she complies ...
And wear your seatbelt ... hubby talk again ... wifey now on silent treatment ... slowly, slowly crawling back to their old equation of fighting, squabbling, sulking ... the familiarity, the sense of belonging ...

In between was Payash - Akash assures Babuji that R's will accept Khushi, he knows Babuji is most concerned about her ... the shaadi ka DVD appears ... and Garima gives a shagun for Khushi after all.


Back home at RM, Arnav waits impatiently for a still sulking Khushi at the front door ...
What?! You want to carry me over the threshold again now?
His eyes said he wouldn't mind ... but he just reached for her hand instead ... but Khushi still sulking, withdraws it silently ... nope, you don't hold my hand just like that, buster ... 
Of course he's not going to like that, so he grabs it anyway ... of course she fights him off ... till he explains ...hold my hand, I want Di to think everything went off well at your house, otherwise she'll get worried ...
She stops struggling, but still fires back ... so you want me to lie?
He shoots a salvo back which confuses her again, enough to keep her quiet as he rings the bell and stands hand in hand ... shouldn't be difficult for you, it's a habit ... 
And as she stands baffled, he gets breathing space ...

Mami's two oneliners ... Arnav bitwa and exstra bahurani ...
guttrar goon ... love birds ...

Anjali starts to cross question Khushi about her visit home ... Arnav tense, not happy at Mami's taunts, ready to step in at Anjali's questions ... but Khushi does the needful ... it went off fine, Anjaliji ...
Not convinced, Anjali is ready to ask more ... Arnav steps in to save her from further grilling.
Khushi, come upstairs, I need to talk to you ...
(hayeee ... Sadda HAQ ... :">  Methinks Arnav bitwa is very soon going to appreciate this marriage business if it means he can speak to Khushi in private at any time, whenever he wants, without sundry family members wondering or questioning ... and always assuming tigress wifey permits him to get away with such behaviour, of course :) )

Anjali still doleful ... well, at least the rasam got done, ... even if I still don't know what's going on ...

Khushi has gotten into the wife act very fast - enter room, shut door firmly ... this is MY room, OUR room ... now talk, Mr. Raizada ... I'm listening ... can't promise that for too long ...
And the Arhi confrntation  ... :"> :"> :">
His first gripe, and major one - answer the phone when I call you ... and don't disappear on me again ... I won't come crazily looking for you every time ...
Like I just did ... the last few times ...
Told you she wouldn't listen quietly for too long ... some do's and don'ts from her side fired right back ...
And you don't hold my hand like that, and don't shout at me in front of everyone like that ... and oh yes, I didn't take your call because I didn't want to  ... savvy? I didn't want to talk to you, I didn't want to come back here with you ...

In the meantime, Payash return home, and tell Anjali and Nani what really happened at GH with Khushi ... Payal won a few more Brownie points by showing her relief that Khushi was back home safely ...

Back to ArHi ... Arnav gets his turn to talk ... 'What you want doesn't matter ... I want that our family doesn't get to know the truth, so we will play this drama out ...'
'Why?! Why should we?! Why should things happen always the way you want? Me, me, me ... always about you and what you want ... have you ever thought about what I want? What I feel? How much what you say, what you do hurts me ...'
What she wants? What she feels? That's what's been eating him up all along ... that's what's been tormenting him for so many days ...
'And what about the hurt you gave me?!!!'

And it's out ... finally ... out in the open between them ... he was hurt ... deeply, painfully, piercingly hurt ... by her ...
And Khushi stops in her tracks ... shocked ... stunned speechless ... as he stares at her, gripping her tightly but neither of them even notice that ... as they stare at each other, at the truth flaming between them ...
You have the power to hurt me like nobody else can ... you hurt me, dammit ...

A soft, breathy 'kya ...' barely audible through her shock ... what did I do?!!!
And the sound recalls him to his senses, what he just almost admitted ... again he was unmasked, vulnerable and exposed in front of her ... he leaves her and moves away as quickly as he can, not meeting her eyes ... was it the first time he admitted it to himself as well? That everything he did with Khushi was not because she could have hurt his Di ... it was because she hurt him ...

Khushi struggling, desperately trying to make sense of this shattering new disclosure ... what did I do that hurt you so much?! 

What is he to answer? You broke my heart? You loved another man? No, he's not ready to confess his love yet ... not by a long way ... silence again his only defence.
But she's not letting up ... when did I hurt you? What was it I did that ... Tell me!!!
He can't ... he has to leave right away ... but she stops him, arms outstretched ... no, you don't! Not till you tell me ... you don't leave this way ... not till you tell me what you're accusing me of ... 

Saved by the bell ... or the knock ... Anjali, the ever-loving, ever-interfering ever-present Di ... and Arnav gets his reprieve ...

Why did Anjali have to come right now? After Arnav said very clearly he wanted to talk to his wife alone? x(
*shiddat alert* - I want a scene where Anjali comes interfering, Arnav tells her to get lost because he's having a private conversation with his wife ... and shuts the door in her face ... if she does this when they're making out, it will be even better ... :))

Anjali tells Khushi mournfully that she knows what happened at GH, of course Khushi is upset ... really, Anjali? And you're here to do what exactly? Rub it in? And add that even you are upset, as upset as Khushi's parents and sister ... because Khushi and Arnav made a mistake and won't tell anyone why ...
Not quite sure what Anjali accomplished except to be KMH and upset Khushi further ...

Anjali's holier-than-thou attitude, her need to know everything and her conviction that she can fix everything better than anyone else, is starting to get to me ... as is her dependence and her fixation with her Chotey's life ...

So Jalebi Bai emerges after a long, long gap ... Khushi put up with all the taunts, the insults, the heartbreak ... but what her going was the fact that somehow, she doesn't know how, when or where ... she hurt Arnav ...
Or does she ... ? The only secret she is hiding from him ... could it be that?

Ghanti baji ... batti jalli ... she may not arrive at the right conclusion immediately ... but she's on the right track ... and once Khushi is on the right track, and DM has given the green signal ... it's all systems go ...


157 comments:

  1. waiting for ur detailed post Diyu.......even I was laughing gleefully at her batti jaling moment......even the scene where he tells her of how much she has hurt him was good...awesommeeee.......that means she knows now that he is hurting cause of her......

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  2. Hey Dia welcome home !!

    ok just posted these comments in earlier post..

    Can i say loved the Arhi today. Spot on everything. Loved their confrontation always just them and always private.

    Yep loved the way ODG covered for bitwa and bitwa wanting to have a private meeting and yes Dia hayyeeee at that one :"> Loved how khushi closes the door and says now it just me we wont act get out whats in your mind i am here ,say what you want and I will take it..
    And as always when bitwa goes all macho the Bitiya goes all Xena and she knows him too well to push his buttons and Bitwa in anger loses his control on emotions and spills. Loved Barun today he was bang on as usual. and SANS was fantastic with voice and expression.


    sorry am on rant mood.. happy that atleast some of them are using their brains and thats has to be our shanka devi. DM thought it was no use just directing these 2 idots. so i better do it through help of Saraswati ma and tell shanka devi to do the rest. Jai DM. you rock

    SN
    Ok now can we have that Shiddat of Khushi taking the charge of all "in love couple moments" and especially infornt of RS and make a point that it was him there. Go girl u proved to be smarter than the dark horse.


    Akash and Payal redeems themselves some miles by promising bauji to make his family accept khushi and also telling RB and Nani the truth.
    Now Payal tell your JI the truth of RS and team up with khushi to bring out the truth.

    Girls there are some spoiler by someone from sets regarding the new promo. Holi celebrations and our bitwa and bitiya are drunk and their Dil goes Dhak Dhak. Promo to shown on Tuesday night.
    Here is the link http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2817831

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    1. Aarthi if this promo is actually true and not just some crazy rumour then this will officially be devi Maiyya sanctioned bhaang...fed up of giving them sign after sign she decides..maybe they need to be a little less 'present' and things might actually move forward...Eeee I soooo want a nice holi episode!!! pls pls pls DM ...shiddat se maang rahe hai!!

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    2. It probably is true ... the previous spoiler on the promo was about the 2 hour challenge, and it was true ... and wouldn't be surprised if cv's decided to put in some pleasant scenes after the TRP drop - besides,I think the worst of the hate is over ... the R's have accepted Khushi, as vouched for by Anjali and Akash, the Guptas will take longer, but Garima made a start by sending the shagun, so that's a tacit acceptance of the marriage ...

      and the biggest - ArHi have made huge progress - from
      I Hate You ... I Hate You Too
      to
      You Hurt me ... You Hurt Me Too ...

      Both admitting out loud that farak padta hai, BAHUT farak padta hai ... you have the power to hurt me beyond any other hurt ...

      So now it's a great time for them to start losing their inhibitions ... and for us to have a good Holi :))) ... please Devi Maiyya ... *shiddat alert*

      Updated the shiddat post ... hey Devi maiyya, if this is true, you're giving us more than we asked for ...
      By the time show ends, we'll all be major bhakts of Devi Maiyya!

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    3. So true Dia...I am becoming a ardent fan of Devi Maiyya ...soon to convert to total DM bhakt!!

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    4. Arti: Bitiya as Xena...woah that is good one!

      Promo_ I want her to get drunk and atleast tell if not, Arnavji you have any idea how much I love you to

      Why do you want me to get married to you for 6 months only, how will I live without you, You have any idea how much I Care about you, Why do you keep pushing me away, Why do you keep breaking my heart, you did it in Diwali and you are doing it now, Dont you care for me at all, you do know that I would never hurt you right?

      Any, Some or all of the above....Yeah I am getting greedy, mushy, cheesy, filmy here, lol.

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  3. Hayyyeeeee!!!!...Haven’t stopped grinning since8:30....

    The mandir scene was right up there with the all the Arhi mandir scenes. First off I loved the aarti music...was that an IPKKND thing or is there actually such aarti music?...the background score was beautiful.

    Poor girl, dodging his glances and trying to hide...his eyes searching for only her, completely oblivious to the world around them...his world pretty much starts and stops with her. I liked how he said she’s my wife! Who’s going to stop me?-totally HOT! Total HAQ! And of course he just needs a reason to carry her.

    I loved Khushi’s expression here...pulled at my heart and even Arnav’s , he has a hard time tearing his face away from hers. She looked so sad...how did it come to this? It looked like he also wanted say something ...but back to business in the car though he does tell her not to talk-he can’t take anymore.

    She doesn’t let him hold her hand. GOOD GIRL! Establishing ground rules isn't far off! And once again he gives her ‘vaasta’ of someone she cares about. And she doesn’t disappoint...she goes along with the facade to save Anjali from any distress.

    The Arhi confrontation was amazing. Finally finally Khushi holds her own and doesn’t dissolve into tears in front of him. The part where he grabs her and says ‘what about the hurt you’ve given me?’ was excellent. It was like Arnav had been dying to ask her this since that night, every part of him has been yearning for some answer but yet he couldn’t bear to hear the words. And now when it slips out, the answer to the only question he seemingly doesn’t know the answer too, he can’t tell her what he’s talking about.

    He thinks she’s asking why would it bother you that I love another man and he cannot let her know now just how much that hurt him that would tantamount to a declaration that he loved her- he can’t let her know that. Not now.

    He cannot answer and he tries to walk away...she blocks him again...she wants to know what she has done...in her mind she has always done whatever she could to protect him, from himself, from his rash decisions in fact even when the shyaam truth was revealed to her it was concern for him and what would happen to him once his sister broke that she held her tongue...so what has she possibly done that has hurt him so deeply...And of course Anjali interrupts...

    However the Anjali conversation was also very important and I’m just so glad to see this taking action, firm, rolling her eyes at mamiji’s vapid comments Anjali. She’s picking up on things much faster...are they preparing her character for the big reveal...so they can show that even Anjali has the traits of Devi Maiyya when she needs to? The conversation itself was so sensible and reasonable- No one hates you! In fact we like you-(we would have loved to welcome you into our house)-she tears up at this...somewhere thats exactly what she had begun to hope for...and then Anjali asks again...WHY?? And Khushi takes a leaf out of her husband’s book and walks away.

    I think Khushi making jalebis is to Arnav taking solo car drives...both these activities spur on the minds of ODG and ODB respectively...clarity...finally after his huge clue she guesses right...and on cue the freaking weekend comes leaving us waiting ...

    SN 1: So mami has the dvd? Whoot whoot? Or not not?

    SN 2: Aakash slowly and steadily proving his worth...opposite of his brother he compliments Arnav in his own way....steady, silent, not a decision maker , not rash, believes in the inherent goodness of people and doesn’t lose faith so quickly.

    SN 3: the blackmail promo was in different clothes for both Khushi and Arnav...doubt it’s going to happen.

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    1. Garg: I loooooooved the arti music too, infact i loved the bg in the whole episodes cos most of the old ones were back.

      I have watched this almost 3 times since morning and think will watch it more times by the time monday comes.

      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1725213&TPN=52

      I am actually listening to the scenes as I type this, lol.

      I loved the way you put this {quote)It was like Arnav had been dying to ask her this since that night, every part of him has been yearning for some answer but yet he couldn’t bear to hear the words. And now when it slips out, the answer to the only question he seemingly doesn’t know the answer too, he can’t tell her what he’s talking about.

      He thinks she’s asking why would it bother you that I love another man and he cannot let her know now just how much that hurt him that would tantamount to a declaration that he loved her- he can’t let her know that. Not now.

      He cannot answer and he tries to walk away...she blocks him again...she wants to know what she has done...in her mind she has always done whatever she could to protect him, from himself, from his rash decisions in fact even when the shyaam truth was revealed to her it was concern for him and what would happen to him once his sister broke that she held her tongue...so what has she possibly done that has hurt him so deeply..(/quote)

      The promo always gets shot first and then they do the actual scene also setting tends to be different,so never go by the promo per se.

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    2. Kya Dilemma Hai?

      Arnav knows Khushi has the answer to the one question he needs answered but dare not ask afraid of her reply

      Khushi knows Arnav has the answer to the one question she needs answered, is not afraid to ask but he does not reply

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  4. Dia,

    Fab scenes...episode raised to a diff level by these two wonderful actors..the screens just comes alive when it has these two in the frame...they don't need dialogues yaar and if they have they do complete justice to it...

    dia, I think the blackmail will still happen becos Khushi will try to needle Arnav by threatening to leave in her attempt to get Arnav to fess up.. Arnav will issue the payal threat and I think Khushi will come back hopefully not becos of that threat but she gets the feeling that she is closer to solving the mystery( it will be an anti-climax if she meekly agrees, so unlike khushi)

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    1. But I was wondering why she's in the yellow sari again and Arnav in the black suit...they shot this promo earlier and I dunno now where they'll fit the scene in...

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    2. Hey Gargi...thats no big deal....they always do that...shooting promos sep and the main scene differently....

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  5. Dia, Gargi

    whats this thing about the DVD and that too at the Guptas..Did they have some guys recording apart from NK's amateurish attempt? Is that a red herring, CVs having some nice fun at our expense, I guess.. what could it have recorded..the all important terrace scene but how...Do video recorders at marriages leave cameras at various places to record key aspects? aaj kal shaadi mein kya hota, pata nahin...This serial is driving me nuts for sure...I am like wanting to clutch at straws....dimaag ka ilaaz bahut zaroori hain...

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    1. Rekha,
      Agar logically socha jaye (difficult with IPKKND ;) ) then both sides should have had a photographer to make the shaadi ka videos - that's the way it's usually done, and both groom and bride's side make their own albums ... at least that's the way I remember from my wedding and my cousin's ...

      So hopefully NK was not the only photographer, or maybe he was from the R side, and the G's had their own photographer ...

      but is this just a red herring or will it actually lead to something ... and if this DVD will reveal something then what was the need for showing NK all over the place with a camcorder? Just to give him something to do?

      Hey DM, raksha karna ... ham sab ke dimaag ki :)))

      But yep, promos are always shot with different clothes if they're done early enough - I guess the actors just shoot them in whatever clothes they're wearing that particular day ...

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    2. Rekha I hope that if this dvd does contain proof of ODG's innocence or Snakewa's treachery then they mention that its a combination of professional photography and NK's home videos otherwise what was the point of NK spending 2 weeks behind that outdated camcorder?

      In the weddings I've attended there is professional recording and photography while usually cousins or close friends keep cameras and video recorders handy for the candid wedding moments...

      Hopefully NK is the one who has unwittingly caught a 'candid' moment of his Jija...Afterall he hasn't said his final goodbye yet so perhaps he gives Anjali Di/Khushi another dvd, either that or the cv's have just forgotten about poor NK and delivered proof for Khushi's exoneration into the hands of Manodrama...

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    3. Rekha, Dia, Gargi: Here in South we use a common guy who does the album plus dvd. and ofcourse family plus friend who record for their own purposes. Heck there are two wide screen tvs placed so guests can watch the proceedings easily.

      Yahan par toh naak ke liye bhi mujhay photographer nahin nazar aaya forget videowala. So we have to assume that R House has cameras installed all over the place and they got one guy to edit all the footage. That is the only way I can see terrace scene getting captured.

      DVD has to be a red herring again.

      I think they probably realized NK has become quite popular and even if he comes has couple of scenes in a week, that will do.

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    4. Girls,
      I saw the terrace episode again just becos I am mad...I saw some funny contraption in couple of scenes when RS is talking to KKG....bright light behind these two....they did not focus on it so if u don't look carefully, u r sure to miss it.For all u know it could be halogen lights that are common in marriages..
      Or could it be that the DVD indeed has something? If it turns to be a red herring...I will rue the time i spent watching that epi again...like a mad woman....

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  6. - what's wrong with these sisters!! first the father's sister - overbearing, dictates everything - who she will take along, what she will take along and despite being all loving and concerned about the brother - cant seem to read his mind - Babuji is practically shouting out loud - well done khushi - you got yourself a rich handsome cool dude - way better than the snakewa!!
    secondly - the husband's sister - who really needs to take lessons on basic etiquette! Leave a newly married couple alone - even if they are having an argument, let them make up on their own (what if they were in the middle of a patchup! or if was consoling her after a bad day!!!) And i am not liking Anjali here at all - OK so she told Khushi - we all liked you (please note the "liked" bit -not like, as in the present - liked, as in the past) but we are still upset - you caused us pain etc etc - woman - you know your brother - go ask him - why put the girl through more torture when you have supposedly come to sooth her!!
    - Finally - the couple! - glad to see that she is already laying down the rules - very glad to see she is picking up the meaning behind ODB's rudeness - very very glad she is using her mind - asking question, trying to get answers but not waiting for them - thinking on her own!!!
    Hope all that you guys wrote about her leading the fake scenes, does happen! also hope that she gets an answer to the question / doubt that has entered her mind real quick - and from the right person - not any more poison from RS!
    ps. ODG's mind is finally working - maybe she should add a pac pf mentos in the jalebis and feed them to her DB!!
    and i love mami!! 'guttar goon, love birds!!', Arnav bitwa aure extra bahu!! ROFL ROFL... she is too good

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    1. I so agree with you Mona...the sisters in IPKKND land seem to be cause of some major problems...

      Sister 1: Babuji is totally ok with Hottie damaadji, and Garima is wallflower...what is buaji's problem!! First she forced Khushi to engaged to Snakewas and then when she did way better on her own she's being a royal cow.

      Sister 2: Payal is somewhat redeeming herself under guidance of her much more sensible patiji but still needs to wake up and grow a voice. How has she lived with spirited khushi all these years and remained docile bharatiya naari?

      Sister 3: Tragedy Queen. So much has been said about her don't need to elaborate. But must say I'm relieved that she's stopped crying and started questioning ...even if she is being total KMH(Kebab mein haddi)

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    2. Oh, I agree completely ... Buaji is overbearing, and rides roughshod over Garima on everything related to Khushi and Payal - and ignores Shashi completely. In fact, Khushi is the only one who bothers about him at all, Garima and Buaji treat him as though he's lost his mind along with his speech! And Khushi has found herself an eligible bachelor - not a slimy deceiving cheat who's already married ... Buaji should remember the bad decision she made on Khushi's behalf the last time round, and thank her lucky stars that despite that, Khushi has found herself such a good husband.

      Payal has redeemed herself the last couple of days - she never had a spine, but she tries to silently support Khushi as best she can without upsetting her goody-goody image with everyone.

      As for Anjali - Khushi is going to have serious issues with this over-possessive sis-in-law for sure. Just how rude was that - your bro specifically said he wanted to talk to his wife alone, they go up to their room ... why is it so necessary to interrupt them? What was the all-fired hurry to question Khushi - Anjali already heard from Payash what really happened at the GH ... did she go to comfort Khushi or to upset her more? And okay, she's started asking questions - but she needs to check her timing - and basic etiquette - don't disturb a married couple when they're having a private talk ...

      I can foresee it really bothering Anjali when Arnav starts getting closer to Khushi ... so when the Shyam truth breaks, and especially if it transpires that Arnav knew this all along, Anjali might go completely haywire ...

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    3. Dia,

      Hope u r enjoying urself with family :)

      I posted a comment about Anjali and what about her unsettles me. If you think about it, in Arnav's house, she has always fixed problems. She considers herself as the one who understands people and sorts their issues.
      - She grasped Akash was in love
      - She told him to propose to Payal
      - She spoke to Shyam to ensure Nani allows La to stay at RM
      - She made sure Khushi came to RM to train La
      - She made Arnav get Khushi back around rakhi
      - She tricked Khushi to come back for La
      - She convinced Arnav for Payash sangeet

      But now for a while, she is not able to fix anything
      - She was not told of Arnav and La breaking up
      - She does not know why that engagement ended
      - She does not know why Arnav and Khushi got married
      - She does not know what the imp thing was her bro wanted to tell her that night
      - She does not know why Arnav and Khushi remain silent about "them" though there seems to be tension b/w them

      Somewhere she realizes that her brother has been taking more control of his life into his hands. He is making his own decisions solo. And it is not sitting well with Anjali. (like teenagers growing up and out of the parents fold)

      And yes like you rightly said, as Arnav and Khushi grow closer, how much more insecure will she get? She is alreay upset bcos both are silent about this wedding to her. She feels sidelined from both their lives. Khushi's confidence, zest for life and her ability to rebound from troubles will give Anjali a complex in the future. (Arnav perhaps is subtly hinting at this. Today Arnav tells her to relax nad chill but we have seen him getting irritated at her intrusionm in the poolside mehendi scene with Khushi and also post wedding when he asked her to can the drama)

      Shyam is sure to latch on and play with her insecurities to his advantage.

      Funnily she is always saying Relax Chotey! while she is the one who is usually hyper.

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    4. Mona loved mami yaar. It does makes me wonder though and I hope you and the others answer this for me?

      Assume arnav finds out shyam is after khushi and had married to protect her, even if the love confession had not happened and he had somehow convinced her and they had gotten married the way they did, yes khushi would have hesitated and arnav would have said we can explain it to our families later -

      Mami's constant reference to phati saree and extra bahu, would he have kept quiet, ignored it or corrected it rightaway.

      Good point about the sisters, lol.

      And exactly my thought, he said come upstairs I want to talk to you, why not give them privacy, why tapkofying and why spying on them so much.

      Kuch toh gadbad hai, Anjali seems unusually stern did you guys noticed?

      Dia: Very good point, khushi has married a guy who is an eligible bachelor, is from on the richest and respected families in Delhi, has class, has helped their other daughter get married into his family and from their fav damaad they know he is the Power centre, decision maker of the family. And they are furious she married him and brought them disrepute.

      Heloooooooooo, what if khushi had indeed married shyam and they had found out that she was a second wife and that guy had no intention of divorcing his first wife. What would have been khushi's status in the society then, Wouldn't that have been more damaging than this?

      Sandy: You have put it brilliantly. Anjali I don't think ever thought she would not be the centre of chotay's universe. Yes she wanted him to marry but I dont think she was threatened by La cos somewhere I think she correctly sensed that between La and Anjali, Arnav would always give priority to Anjali.

      Now it is different, He is slowly moving away from her. Is not letting in on major decisions, his break up with La and even when She found out he liked Khushi (Maybe I am going a bit extreme with this)but she figured Khushi would be under her control, status and all, dunno how to put it clearly.

      I dont think she ever bargained for the fact that Arnav move away from her cos of Khushi. He got married didnt tell her, Demands that khushi be given the respect she deserves as his wife, irritated with Anjali for her drama and with pag pheray lies to her.

      Maybe as a lot of you gals have rightly pointed out, maybe she is aware of Shyam's duplicity, she can't control Shyam now Arnav is rebelling.

      Makes you wonder if Anjali is a closet control freak.

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    5. Shwetha,

      Anjali = closet control freak - i think yes. But teh beauty is she does not appear to be one. She appears to be all compromising whereas it is Arnav who is the compromiser.

      U know, I read a post somewhere about whether Anjali heard just the 1st part of the Arnav conversation about Shyam cheating on her? Or did she follow him up to the terrace and saw some part of the Shyam Khushi conversation? Does she think Arnav married Khushi in a hurry to protect her and hence the emphasis on the rasam, more to convince herself that Khushi is now someone else's wife and no issue for her?

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    6. I think I wrote that that Anjali heard only the first part and not with whom she was cheating or like you say it is a possibility that she did hear it fully and knows why Arnav is doing this so she wants to make sure Khushi is with Arnav permanently.

      Sach bolon, I dont think CVs have decided which way she is going to go?

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    7. Shwetha isi matter pe I wrote anotehr bak bakky comment again on this post in reply to another comment of urs.

      Actually CVs are sitting on a lot of good possibilities. They are jsut evaluating audience reaction and TRP baba to see where to go.

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  7. Total paisa vasool with today's episode!!

    DM! Thank you! Fabulous episode...Khushi back to trying to dodge ASR, ASR chasing pagalon ki tarah, by his own admission.....proclaiming to everyone in front of DM, that she is HIS biwi ! Back off everyone, she is MY wife! DM is the one having a good laugh!! Bitwa is saying it to everyone...MERI patni! Meri wife! Pretty soon, he will be saying it to ODG too, 'Tum Meri ho, sirf meri!' Its coming. Had palpitations watching these ARSHI moments after a long drought. The connection between these two is palpable...Can't get over the chemistry here!

    Now that ODG has now got a clue that he feels that she has hurt him also......Now that its out there, she will find out. Going back to the La days, Khushi was the only one who could get to the heart of the matter with ASR. Now this is a matter of her own life and she will get to the bottom of this....Only I wish we did not have this weekend in between to figure out what to do with ourselves till we can witness the rest of this drama.

    Real life is so tame in comparison !! LOL.....DM, raksha karna indeed!

    Akash was so sweet...promising to look after Khushi. Hopefully, Payal will start to share somethings with Akash and it will help unravel this situation.

    But on another note, I hope that Khushi does not have to try and prove her innocence to LG. I hope that he realizes that every time he has thought the worst of her, he has been proven wrong! Hopefully he will come to this realization soon and the truth is revealed some other way and he starts to woo her all over again!

    I think it is time for a maha episode too !!

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    1. Indeed 17th March isn't looking that far...though I'll be very disappointed if bitwa and KKG sort things out without anymore tricks from Shyaam. Really wanted some mind games between ASR and Resident Raizada Reptilewa(RRR).

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    2. RRR - ROFL

      Just how many nicknames are we gonna come up with for this guy yaar.

      Btw for the 3 sisters:

      Buaji - Dadagiri Queen - DQ
      Payal - laundry Queen - LQ
      Anjali - Tragedy Queen - TQ

      And seriously what is with Anji being a KMH - abbe iski life main shaadi ke baad isne kuch kiya ya nahi. no wonder RRR is roving around.

      I wish she will stop all her rasam sambhar nonsense now and focus on some much needed Iron tablets and folic acid for self...

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    3. Hey sandy! Glad you're back;-)

      Rrey RRR is an all talk spaz. Kuch karta tho hain Nahi sirf face twitch karte rehta hain. Yep tragedy queen needs some supplements and RRR needs some muscle relaxant for that facial twitch!

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    4. wow sandy, hilarious! Gargi, RRR is really apt. lets call him that from now on.

      the tragedy queen is turning out to be less smiles and more eyerolls. Now that she knows bitwa gave her a barefaced lie about "his wife" being okay, i suppose he has proved that his priorities in life have changed.. di is #2 now..

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    5. Sandy: Agar kuch nahin kiya hota toh pregnant kaisay hoti bey...unless she is faking her pregnancy.

      Harini: Ya once Abhaas gets well and we are back to arnav vs shyam, bitwa will be meri biwi sirf meri hai, ho sakey to apni biwi ko sambhal warna...

      All: Any first holi after marriage rasam that we should know about?

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    6. Jaya,

      See that is teh thing right. Just cos he has a wife, Di is not #2. She is still #1 to him but there are things he can / feels to share only with his wife. Yeh baat TQ ko hajam nahi ho rahi. There is no way to compare the 2 kinds of love ya!

      Shweths,

      Abbe ofc kuch kiya hoga re tabhi to preggers - ROFL

      Faking her pregnancy - wohi toh is she capable of that duplicity?
      Did she just hear the first part of Arnav saying KP cheating on u?
      Or did she follow ODB to the terrace and saw a bit of something there; the scenes post ODB left?
      Will the DVD (if not a red herring) show Anjali going up to the terrace behind Arnav? Cos she did look at Arnav when he went up to tell Khushi his feelings.
      And looking at her KMH tendencies these past few epis, I will not be surprised if she wanted to be there when bro confessed.

      U know the last part of that RS ODG scene has Khushi saying "You are such a low class man. Whether you are married or not, I can never marry you. And for TQ's sukh, she should leave you. Don't dare come near me again"

      There was also a spoiler saying Shyam situational expose to Anji is being planned. Is this about enlightening us as an audience that she knew all along. Is this that zabardast twist? But spoiler / twist aside, at this point in the story this is still an option for me.

      See thing is if Anji tells Arnav that she knew about Shyam and she heard Khushi say these things, he will believe her. To him there is no higher portal of truth. At the same time, it will also open his eyes to how far his Di can go just to maintain her pretence of truth. The only thing here is this will paint Anji a very dark grey.

      As to why she did not immediately tell her brother - she needs to have accepted it to herself. She knew Khushi didn't want to have anything to do with RRR. And to her keeping the peace is key. And Khushi and Anjali never had a conversartion post this terrace scene till after that sudden wedding. The only interaction was in the family scene where Anji was again lapping up her hubby saying things such as a little angel will complete my happiness - did anji believe it?

      Is her insistence to complete all the rasams more to ensure to herself the legality of this marriage thereby completely removing Khushi out of Shyam's orbit (Anji knew Khushi's fiance's name; she saw that ring so did she connect some dots after seeing the terrace scene, if she saw it). And she is capable of justifying to herself that K kept quiet for Anji's sake since everyine is always out to keep her happy na..

      And IF main ppl keep saying she does not show the reports to anyone. But would madam lie? Can't figure that one out yet even after the psych analysis I did!

      Thoda jyaada ho gaya kya?

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    7. We have seen madam can be very manipulative and absolutely ruthless when she wants to be. Her threatening with the contract terms to khushi when bitwa himself never followed it up and never brought it up agian, is a proof of that.

      I also think maybe all this is cos she makes sure Khushi has no feelings towards Shyam and actually loves Arnav. Once that is done I think she can start manipulating Shyam. Shyam needs her for the money, that is one thing that she can use to keep him around cos she loves him.

      See the pattern here, Arnav married khushi cos he loves her and can't bear her to be with someone else. Anjali will continue with the marriage cos she loves him and she cannot see shyam with someone else.

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    8. Harini: I thought I replied to your comment, dunno kahan gayab ho gaya,lol.

      As for the connection, I loved the way he kept on hinting, you know I dont like this, You know, You know and she is like I KNOWWWWWW!!!!

      Hamaray Family, wah wah...Upar aa jao, waiting for the day he says hamara ghar, hamara kamra....hayeeeeeee moment in the making.

      WHY DOES HE CALL HER KKG, ISN'T SHE KSR NOW?

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    9. hahaha Sandy I think its gonna be tough for TQ to fake pregnancy in those totally sheer pallu's of hers...either that or she's going to need a new wardrobe to hide the fake baby bump...

      Oh God I really hope Anjali isn't that twisted in the head that she's keeping Shyaam around even though she knows...and if thats the case then why hasn't she spoken to Arnav...obviously if she knows about the terrace scene she also knows Arnav knows and will act against Shyaam...knowing the pre Khuhsi - Arnav of yore maybe even threaten him...so if loves hubby so much wouldn't she protect him from Arnav's POA...assuming he had a better one than he does right now...??? Dude it'll be way too twisted and weird if Anji knows

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    10. Shwetha,

      Loved the way you paraphrased it: "I also think maybe all this is cos she makes sure Khushi has no feelings towards Shyam and actually loves Arnav. Once that is done I think she can start manipulating Shyam. Shyam needs her for the money, that is one thing that she can use to keep him around cos she loves him"

      Gargi,

      I know it's weird but somehow if they treat this character gray, it makes for some thrilling story telling possibilities. Also I like how Shwetha put it about binding RRR to herself. Mybe she has so many complexes she needs a happily Ever After (cos her mum did not get one?)

      Chances are they may never go this path given how pious and sati saavitri type her character is. But if they do, it will be interesting.

      Let us step back. Assume the preggers is true. Assume she never saw Arnav leave the terrace - that is why she keeps asking why this hasty decision - cos she is not sure.

      She has been suddenly harping on rasams and their proper completion. Why? To ensure that Khushi Arnav marriage is totally legit from the cultural angle, that Khushi is irreocably bound to Arnav, that Khushi is no threat to her as she is no longer single she knows Khushi sets a lot of importance by the instituion of marriage). Now when the 6 months thing comes up, she will be jolted because then again everything unravels.

      Also if TQ only heard the absolute last part of the the terrace scene - she could have realized that Shyam was Khushi's fiance. She was the only one at that time who said, there could be many Shyam apart from mine.

      About why she does not tell Arnav? - Well fits right with her character of I am Ms Fix-It. I will fix this myself. She considers herself to be the problem solver for others so why go to others to get hers fixed.

      Or she may have brought it up, but she gets the pregnancy results. Maybe that is why she was shocked. Its like she gets anothe opportunity to set things right in her marriage. Another reason by which to bind her husband.

      Or maybe like Arnav does not want Di stressed and does the HMC act. Maybe Anji is doing the HMC act to keep the rest of the family relaxed. I wonder under what circumstances these 2 got married? Even she does not know of RRR's murdering tendencies.

      TQ believes in Khushi's goodness. Plus she is married now. Even if RS manipulates her, what would be the reason for TQ to ask her bro to leave Khushi? She has never given TQ any reason to believe that Khushi had designs for her husband.

      In her questioning of Khushi just after the wedding and even today, are her Qs basically asking: what was your need to go along with my bro's harebrained idea of a shotgun wedding? Were you threatened? Did you need protecting?

      Women are supposed to be perceptive of philandering husbands. And Anji is really paranoid. She goes hyper when her bro goes missing for 3 hours without calling her. How come she is relatively relaxed about her hubby going missing for hours without telling her. Is TQ really that blur? Or she knows something and is hiding it?

      Not sure how the CVs will play this one. Maybe I am reading too much into her..pata nahi

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  8. two quick questions to all -
    1) What were you guys referring to in the earlier posts - what pheras? did ODB&G take pheras ever (how is one pending?) or were you referring to the times they end up in a mandir?
    2)Is there any reference to a video recording revealing something imp? or is you conjuncture that NK has a camcorder so there could be something there?

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    1. Mona, recall during mehendi, haldi and wedding NK was running around with camcorder. Ab shaadi ki DVD aiyee hai mami ke haath.

      Like Lakshmi gayabofied the necklace from Khushi's bag, hope she gets the wedding DVD to Arnav / Khushi. At this stage with bitiya's bulb flickering, if she sees Arnav and Shyam kind of at logger heads in some scene, she may have some epiphanies.

      Hmm.. this could be like the buaji ka shaadi ka joda and the scorpion too. Not an actual role to play but an indication of things to come (K's wedding, poisoning Arnav's mind) - so maybe this is about getting ODB or ODG to start connecting dots.

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    2. echo, what pheras? where? if it includes all the times he has dragged her by the hand, I might get that, but no.. I dont think they ever walked around a fire..?

      (Loved barun today. sanaya was great especially in the room fight scene. and on the temple steps, in his arms. gosh... I cried there. )

      I would have thought payal would go up and give the shagun to khushi first..before sitting down for gupshup. Also, why was mami so happy with the DVD? She came to see the return gifts, right? why did she run away with the DVD?

      being the 200th episode, this sped up the plot and makes up for the past 2 weeks drag. why? some major plot twist coming up?

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    3. Mona, Actually Dia is the best person to answer that and I believe she answered that in on of her posts. The whole idea is their engagement, mehendi, haldi have been symbolic so the pheras too seem to have technically happend with the diya scene and couple of others which I can't think of to be honest, let me see if I can find it.

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    4. Shweths,

      Will see what Dia has to say. Pheras ka pata nahi. But kanyaadaan is key both north and south.

      You know I always thought that on the night of the haldi, when Khushi came down to the havan wearing his bangles (like the red choodas). There was a havan in front of all family. Arnav took prasad from Anjali (nanand touching the mangalsutra analogy), Buaji asked Khushi to take the prasad, and Khushi raised her hands to Arnav to take DM's prasad / blessing.

      And they zoomed in on that scene. It for some reason reminded me of kanyaadaan.

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    5. U know Dia mentioned that scene in her post, that it looked like the newly wedded wife was taking prasad or blessing something. I think the kanyadaan was during payash marriage when bua asks khushi to keep the shagun ki thaali somewhere, she gives it to her and arnav takes it and keeps it.

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    6. Hi girls, regarding the pheras, there was a discussion in Sathya's post in early Feb about ArHi having metaphorically completed 4 pheras. This was when they did the fourth walk when Arnav comes to GH on the morning of the wedding to give the shaadi ka joda and sees Khushi outside, she sees him and they do that parallel walk to Rabba Ve. So the discussion was that there had been three previous walks - the dargah, the temple after the bandagement, the cliff walk after Payash union, this the fourth one - ergo four pheras - they are symbolically married.

      Discussion was also whether there are four pheras or seven, - if seven, then the Diwali walk inside the circle of diyas and one more could count , and there was one phera left - but four pheras and seven steps make the wedding complete, so we agreed that the pheras were complete.

      Kanyadaan again was mentioned in Sathya's post - during Payash wedding when Buaji tells Khushi to take the shagun ki thaali and give it to Arnav ... that was supposed to be the symbolic kanyadaan ... Buaji handing over Khushi with shagun to Arnav.

      Agree with Jaya - shouldn't Payal have gone to give Khushi's pag phera ka shagun first before sitting down to gup shup? Or at least, when Akash asked about Khushi being back, then she should have mentioned it along with the news that Khushi's pag phera was left incomplete.

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  9. I always wondered what unsettled me about Anjali.

    Today I found a word which I think fits - self righteousness.

    I believe I am always right.
    I always mean good / I never meant harm.
    I did it everyone's best interests.
    I know what is best for everyone.
    I always conduct myself with utmost propriety.
    I am able to solve everyone's problems.
    I am very perceptive of people and their needs.

    Such people I think can have very biased outlook to life, events and other people.

    And here is where she differs from Arnav.

    Arnav understands he has vulnerabilities that he needs to mask.
    His stance is I do what is necessary, to hell with the world.
    He looks at situations as they are.
    He never tries to be good to people so that they are not hurt.
    He speaks his mind if others do not agree.
    He is perceived as a non-conformist since he refuses to blend in

    When was the last time some said NO to something Anjali wanted? And how did she react?
    Did something happen to her when her first wedding broke? (like she had a mental breakdown or a sitaution similar to Vidya Balan in Bhool Bhulaiya?)
    Is that why everyone says yes to her for anything and everything?

    Has the repeated display of affection and acceptance of her wishes and decrees resulted in her forgetting to appreciate thier value? Does she now just take it for granted as her due?
    Has she convinced herself that everyone loves me because I am so good. What's not to love about me?(constant re-affirmation from her bro, nani, mami nad hubby about their love and doing it all for her)

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  10. hope you guys saw this http://www.rangmunch.tv/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=391:iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon-scores-a-double-century\

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    1. Sandy, Jaya...As far as the producers are concerned, Anjali is more damaged than Arnav...I guess in a way they are right, Arnav atleast has self esteem, Anjali's depends on others loving her.

      So the character can go either way. The only thing is they wont make her go all dark cos Anjali is quite popular with her poojas and all, so for Trps sake they will show her as being manipulated and quickly sudhrofying.

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    2. Shweths,

      "Arnav atleast has self esteem, Anjali's depends on others loving her." - Very true.

      Manipulation and sudharofying is mostly what will happen. After all reel life hai

      But it will be interesting if they make her walk a gray line albeit for a short while. Anjali's esteem depends on her brother's and husband's love. She is assured of one. When the other dagmagaaos, does she go the route she went to bring la into the house for Arnav would be interesting to see.

      They can always justify it as her devotion to her hubby cos of the circumstances in which he married her. Hence her need to give him a second chance.

      I know I am clutching at straws, but at some point in this story I want the Arnav Anjali relationship also under a scanner.

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  11. Weekend - Hence Random thoughts:
    - knew you ladies would see eye to eye with me on the sisters bit :D
    - @HAA - exactly what i was thinking - and also that despite ODB being labelled 'Main, Main" - (all about himself) i actually feel that he and ODG are the only two selfless people around - yes Khushi is all soft, caring with a heart and all that - so her being selfless is obvious - BUT ODB too never does anything for himself (just does things his way) - see he did not want to be a business tycoon for himself - he had to get his DI BACK into that Lucknow mansion!, he did not want to marry Khushi like this but he could think of this as the only way of keeping her away from RRR/KJ (ps. love both titles!) and save his sister. Does not believe in God but always does what his sister says - Does not believe in Love (or so he thought!!) but went all out to get Payal and Akash married, Even with La - got her home to spike Nani's guns but kept her at a distance (initial scenes when La comes into his room) because the family had yet to accept her!
    So like in the first few scenes when RRR comes home and he is standing outside the kitchen enjoying his family's happiness - that's him - despite his exterior, his family's happiness is all that he wants. And being the gussay wala types plus the natural leader - he became this beast!
    - Now the worry - ideally (and i think we are all one on this) we would looooove to see ODG give ODB the silent treatment, him ask (no, beg) for forgiveness etc etc. BUT a thought crossed my mind after yesterdays episode - Now that she knows 'He is hurting' and that her batti is finally working and she is connecting the dots - Could it be that she gets all "i will prove my innocence' mode - Bharti nari style - get into he is hurt coz he found out (and not - how dare he think i could brake up a family!!) - Hope that does not happen (from what i read earlier - this show was first called Vaidehi), i don't want ODG to sacrifice her respect and her character.

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    1. Even I was wondering the same thing...I hope Khushi is properly outraged at what he's done and what he thought of her and doesn't just end up feeling bad that she hurt him.

      Yep I said this earlier too...both Arnav and Khushi are way too selfless... Martyr King and Queen of daytime tele...

      Just hope Khushi is appropriatelt indignant and outraged with Arnav at least.

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    2. Gargi,

      Yday Arnav for the first time shared his pain with her. (The stars scene was more of affirmation needed by a child who misses his Ma)

      In the hospital scene, Khushi had said, I cannot afford to lose my babuji again. Her biggest fear and pain. But till date Arnav has been dancing around at the edges, never really letting Khushi in. Today for the first time given the turmoil that has been ripping at him, given Khushi's accusation that you only care about yourself and not me (which would have cut him) he lets slip "And what of the hurt that you have caused me?" She says do you even know how much your words and actions hurt me? And he has voice the same back to her - What of the hurt that you and your actions have given me? (SN: thereby resoundingly accepting that she matters, he cares about her reaction to him - and the hate he has professed is his reaction to some action of hers)

      Earlier he said you should not have difficulty lying, after all you have practice and are an expert. In Khushi's mind the only lie that she had told him is by not disclosing her fiance's real identity.

      Arnav accused Khushi of being good at acting - she will construe it to mean acting happy and normal around the R family inspite of RS having been her fiance.

      Khushi will go tell Arnav about the engagement. She will reason with him that it was to save him from this very hurt that she hid that fact from him. And this is where Arnav's batti will light.

      Later much later when Khushi realizes that the terrace incident was the trigger, she will definitely profess her disappointment in him - for not having trusted her enough, for not giving her a chance to justify. She will accept his reasons, agree with his need to save his Di but she wil show her indignation too.

      But she will eventually forgive him too - kindred souls wanting to protect and nurture

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    3. HAA and Gargi,
      but going by the earlier scenes, the chances are that when she starts to talk to ODB, he will storm out - and she will be - all peechey peechey trying to prove her innocence. I hope she dose that but i also hope that she gets to be the hurt party at him for not trusting her!

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    4. Mona, these two are the most selfless souls when it comes to their families, which is why when they truly get together, I want them to be a little selfish and start living their own life.

      Sandy: True, this was the first time he put himself first wrt khushi, his happiness, his love and although he can think he married Khushi for Anjali's sake, we know it isn't so. If shyam was cheating with some other girl, there is no way Arnav would have married that girl. Him marrying khushi is one simple fact, he cannot see her with someone else.

      She will fight with him, I dont think rather I hope I will prove it to you mode.

      She will be how could you think of the worst of me, You think the worst of me? Fine I don't care anymore, I wont talk to you, I will go away and give him an ultimatum. Bitwa will then be forced to THINK.

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  12. Sandy,
    Loved your two posts on Anjali - you've hit the nail on the head. Together with Gul's latest interview where again she emphasizes that Anjali is the more damaged character, this makes me sure that Anjali will be the next stumbling block for ArHi.

    Am going out for the afternoon, will come back and edit the episode post in detail as well as my take on Anjali ...

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    1. Dia,

      Also thought of one more thing. The other night Khushi challenged DM saying, you sat by and mutely watched so much happen to me. How could you let me get married to someone who says
      1) He will not consider me his wife
      2) He will not give me the status of his wife
      And we agreed that DM gave a gentle smile to the sound of conches.

      Yday to the sound of the same conches, right in front of her, in her darbar / home, she made sure that Arnav had to accept Khushi as his wife to the world. Give her that status.

      Where the other night he dragged her up the steps, today he lifts her up like a valuable possession and carries her out of her home (on the stairs that tear made me think of how girls cry at their bidaai. Today Khushi held onto his collar with lesser hesitation)

      And in the privacy of their room, he tells her "What of the hurt you have caused me?" And at that moment, he has started to give her the right of his wife / life partner. Thus far he has shared her happiness and pain, maybe shared a bit of his happiness with her but today he let her in on his pain. Baby step but a step nonetheless

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    2. Plus, baby foundations laid by Khushi for Arnav to start trusting her.

      She knows this is all a facade, a naatak. But he tells her Di's peace of mind is important to me and she complied. More such actions and he will wonder, if she can hurt Di in a bigger way why not in these small ways too? For whom is she maintaining silence? Me?

      And again coming back to that kheer scene on Monday, whatever happens, when he gets her that water (Shhwets and me yday said - Arnav's concern for Khushi is always genuine), Khushi lets him know that she knows he did the whole kheer thing bcos Anji was standing there and she went alongwith it so that Anji does not get distressed further.

      Let him her her silent "your actions have hurt me, I know this was a playact but you told me you do not want her stressed and I will help you make sure of that"

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    3. Today,Arnav has realized to himself that what Khushi did hurt HIM.
      Till date in all his face off it was she did it to Di, I will punish both for what you have done to Di. But today he has confessed to himself that what he did to her is bcos of his "hurt". Now when the truth hits, there is no hiding for Arnav behind his excuse that Di's life was at stake. Repentance will be more torturous.

      Also, in the Anjali Khushi convo, when she began to list people who were hurt by the sudden wedding, she named herself first, followed by K's parents and Payal. She did not even mention Nani. Intentional? Only the mention of the key people who matter in ArHi's lives?
      And Anjali is the only one who matters in both their lives? (man you are gonna be a major stumbling block when the time comes)

      Actually she already is by being a KMH and delaying a confrontation b/w ArHi
      1st time : When khushi is to get ready for Grihapravesh
      2nd time: Morning after SR
      3rd time: After pag phere when the Why conversation has made progress. The Why question is now partially anwered. It will progress to How and WHen?

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    4. I was going to add that in my main post ... about Arnav declaring Khushi to be in wife in front of the entire world ... I think I did mention it ...
      He married her at night, with no witnesses, and told her it would be a marriage in name only, he would never give her the status and respect of a wife, he would not recognise her rights as a wife ... well, Bitwa did the mistake of saying this in Khushi's DM's temple, and DM don't like people being mean to Khushi, nor challenging her! So Bitwa comes back to eat his words in the same temple, declare her status publicly to the world, pronounce her as unequivocally HIS WIFE, and no one dare interfere between the two of them ... and he is taking her home ...

      Khushi complained to her DM that you watched me get married in such a way and you did nothing ... DM reassured her that bitiya, I'm there all along for you, when you feel you're alone, when you don't feel me next to you, it's because I'm carrying you in my arms, and I will never let you fall.

      Yes, Arnav has to start seeing this side of her ... that while keeping up the questions in private, she maintains the facade in public - because HE wants it that way, and she complies, she never lets him down. And Anjali's well-being is important to her, not only because of his threat aboout Payal, but also because she genuinely cares about Anjali, her health, her well-being, her baby ... in which case, would she really be conspiring to break up her marriage?

      I want Khushi to see Anjali for herself, realize why Arnav is doing the HMC act and go along, without his even having to ask her or explain this time ... and later when he tries to tell her that Anjali was watching, she just says - I know, I went along because I saw her and I didn't want her to get distressed ... not because 'you' didn't want her to get distressed, but 'I' ...

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  13. Dia, Hayeeeeeeeee moment for me was when he said khushi upar aao, mujhay tumsay baat karni hai...Sadda haq. Just as Bitiya didn't give him away, Bitwa on his part made sure she would not have to face more annoying questions from his DI.. Minusing some miles from RTRW just for that.

    Hayeeeeeeee moment 2, Agli baar main tumhain paaglo ki tarah dhoondhatay hue nahin aaonga. Dude admittin he went nuts looking for her.

    Shiddats completed:

    After the proclamation of marriage publicly, bitwa carries her home in this case it is his car. Well considering they have spent as much time in his car and had such great moments, it is their second home. So grihapravesh completed too.

    Holding hands, check. Makes you wonder when all gets sorted, will bitwa ever leave her hand, hayeeeeee.

    CU : Diya, Bitwa can easily fake romance, but concern for her, he can never fake that.

    Saw the spoiler, With cautious optimism can I hope that maybe just maybe their differences are settled and she tells him the truth about Shyam.

    Reason of Caution: Arnav finding out about Shyam, hearing Khushi's version deserves a promo of its own.

    So maybe it is just the Bhaang effect,lol let us hope.

    Will catch up with the comments later:)

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    1. Shweths,

      Aaj all ArHi moments were totally Hayyeee. I thin kRS is shooting again and so the pace has picked up some.

      They never had post wedding games, toh woh kami bhi aaj poori ho gayi - with hide and seek in temple ;)

      Car grihapravesh also done :) (That CARRY shiddat was so powerful, he has now carried her thrice in a week; into his house, into his room, into his vehicle - bas ab bed baaki hai - maybe a drunk arnav and holi will see that happen too!)

      He held her hand as he walked into RM today(like a newly married couple would. This couple has only been getting symbolically married ya!)

      And in the room says Hamari family ko lagna chahiye we are a HMC. Hamaari family - Hayyyyeeee!! (matlab khushi is a part of ur family too kya bitwa?, heart has accepted, now brain needs to accept)

      ROFL - on the phone bit.
      Last time she went missing, he told her never to do it to him again. Today he said the same thing differently. He could not say dont give me heart attacks going missing, so he said, answer ur phone and tell me whenever you are going anyplace (i hope khushi calls him to say inane things like i am going to the kitchen / terrace / poolside / (MIG alert) bath ;))

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    2. Sandyyyyyyy...@telling him inane things, bitwa working on Lappy, Arnavji, Hmm..Hum Kitchen jaa rahay haan, Arnavji hum neechay jaa rahen hain...She is sooooooo capable of doing that. ROFL Second one was Tum Kya karnay ki koshish kar rahi ho, That was too good

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    3. @shwetha, that so did it for me too :D - the agli baar main tunhay paglon ki tarhan ... finally accepted it to her - i go nuts every time you go missing!!
      And also liked her honest response - did not pick upo the phone coz you were calling and i did not want to talk to you!!
      ps - how are they planning holi? in Narnia (sorry IPK land) they got married on the 14th fo Feb - its been four days since - so holi should be a long way off

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  14. More Bak Bak:

    Teej pe DQ had said, Shivji ke jaise pati milenge - Arnav broke Khushi's fast and today he is her pati. Very Shivji type too - jhat se gussa, tendency to reduce things to ashes in anger but capable of high passion too

    Wonder what gift Garima sent for Khushi? DM channeling herself?
    What do girls usually get for pag pheres as gift?

    Payal will always be Khushi's guardian angel after DM till Arnav takes on the mantle. Akash will be the ever obedient and supportive Lakshman to Khushi - indulging her pranks and giving her the strength when she needs a boost.

    So many possibilities : New entry, camcorder, DVD, 2 hour blackmail, Holi

    Did the 2 hour blackmail plan change? Or will Khushi realize Arnav's need for her presence to continue naatak and use this excuse to get himto fess up some more?

    Like Buaji's wedding lehenga which was just a hint that Khushi will get married on the same day as Payal, is the wedding DVD a hint of something? NK's DVD is the only on that could have anything? Or is NK going to stick around for Holi and there catch a Shyam Arnav faceoff that Khushi sees?


    Will Lakshmi switch DVDs? When Shyam tried to entrap Khushi earlier with the necklace, Lakshmi was her savior? Now when he is has entrapped her with a lie, will Lakshmi again be her exonerator?

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  15. I hate proving I'm not a robot:-( and I had soooo many replies so combined them all(sheepishly grinning)...

    @ Shweths

    **Shiddat Alert**

    ....LOVE your ...

    “Why did you want me to get married to you for 6 months only, how will I live without you. Do you have any idea how much I care about you? why do you keep pushing me away? Why do you keep breaking my heart, you did it in Diwali and you are doing it now! Dont you care for me at all? You do know that I would never hurt you right?”

    ....scene!!!

    I really want her to be drunk...Like mami trying to sabotage Laundry queen and Khushi accidently has the bhaang and Arnav winds up taking care of her!! And then everything you said...

    Or

    They both have bhaang and both spill, and both end up falling asleep on that massive bed of his and when they wake up next morning she’s all awkward and embarrassed and he asks his favourite question...’Khushi? Tum thik ho na?’

    ***Shiddat Alert***

    Also I saw the link Shweths!! The water giving part is genuine na??

    @Rekha, Dia, Sandy,Shweths...

    Thanks! didn’t know the promo’s were shot like that...hope the holi promo is in white sari and white pyjama kurta though;-)

    @Sandy

    1. Superb Anjali psychoanalysis...this one is a real case study for psych students...

    2. Also she’s got to stop interrupting the ‘WHY’ moments...strike one. Strike two. Strike three. She’s out!! Please let Arhi talk now and do whatever else they have to in their bedroom ALONE(**MIG**)...seriously if they were an actual newlywed couple Arnav would get very annoyed with his Di’s constant KMH role.

    3. Also agree with you and Mona...

    “Later much later when Khushi realizes that the terrace incident was the trigger, she will definitely profess her disappointment in him - for not having trusted her enough, for not giving her a chance to justify. She will accept his reasons, agree with his need to save his Di but she wil show her indignation too. But she will eventually forgive him too - kindred souls wanting to protect and nurture”

    ...after seeing her reaction on Friday at the thought of him finding out about Shyaam, she might be hurt but she’ll forgive just as quickly :(

    4. Sandy, Shweths, Mona...I loved his...’mujhay tumse baat karna hai’ line and her... ‘Ab kya chahiye humse’, ’mujhay aapse koi baat nahin karna hai’

    Also loved her... ‘Ab ghar mein bhi uthakar le jaoge?’ ...ROFL even bitya knows how much he likes carrying her... (seriously guys we put a lot of shiddat in that wish...feeling the after effects 2 weeks later too...)

    5. Sandy you wont believe....but they showed Khushi and Arnav’s wedding on previous Monday which was Mahashivratri(as in real life it was mahashivratri) and I was just thinking how apt is it considering their Jodi is like Shiv and Parvati...and you’re right...she wanted shivji jaise pati and she got exactly that...they’re too right together...(feel weird gushing about fake people’s tumultuous relationship)

    @ Mona...yep they pretty much skip from pooja to tyuahar to shaadi's...they have one of those special time turners like professor slughorn...can make time slow down and speed up to their convenience ;-D

    @ All....Eeeeee....I want the holi shiddat to come true!! guys pls pls pray :-D

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    1. ROFL ‘Ab ghar mein bhi uthakar le jaoge?’ I could almost see the smirk at the end of the question :)

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    2. Gargi,

      All Arnav's dialogues to Khushi today were super! I loved all their scnes and nok jhok. Normalcy back in their equation. Tom and Jerry.

      And hayee the Haq Arnav has on her. Even in the temple, she goes aap uthaake leke jaayenge humain and he goes, main kar saktha hoon khushi aur tum yeh jaanti ho - bitiya never challenge bitwa. he always rises to the bait.

      And Hayyeeee..even in all that anger he reminds her of the seatbelt.

      Socho how stunned Khushi would have been to know she has hurt him bad enough for him to rain such hatred and horror on her. She who always wanted to protect him - the very thought of having hurt him so bad is going to jhinjhodo her. No wonder the jalebi's made a comeback :)

      I tell you when I finished that comment on Anjali - I was like whoa! RS is a very tame villain compared to her.

      That car locking scene - the last time he locked the doors on her was on the Janmashtami night when he was going to drop her. It was then he told her not to interfere in his life and she gave him that speech on how he is insulting La by not marrying her. It ended ih her being left in the moddle of the road and Arnav backing the vehicle such that she was splattered with mud. Then too bitwa went looking for her as he was worried about her having reached home safely. And realized she calls him Rakshas Laad Governor.

      (HAA pats self for instant recall of ArHi scenes though she may forget if there is enough toothpaste stock in the house)

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    3. I know Sandy!! the moment he said..'aur jo tajleef tunmen mujhe di?' she instantly forgets about what he's done and doing to her...her only thought...why is he in pain? and because of me??...

      Can't live with each other or without...

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  16. @ sandy, i hope the pag phera gift is khushi's Natraj prize. good idea to remind them both of that chemistry that flared between them.

    SN1 I hope some reason comes and payal talks to akash about the whole shyam story.. but they are secondary characters, probably won't happen.

    SN2 why was the wedding video in a plain cd case? okay, the idea may have been last minute, but is it so difficult for the CVs to print a cd cover?

    SN3 he went into the mandir, yes, but he did not even acknowledge that DM was there.. his whole attention was on ODG. and yes, he said she's my wife..(awww such Haq) no wonder she cried in his arms.. he said it in front of everyone and god! (and flashback: RRR carried anjali once and she was like, what are you doing.. sabke samne... and he said, sabke samne phere bhi toh lee thi..) he has the right to carry her :D total win for ODG. that was a squee moment.

    but then, poor barun. had to carry sans all down the temple steps god knows how many times :) remember the SBS on grihapravesh :D

    SN4. it was funny when he pressed the window button to lock the doors of the car. (I think i have seen that scrap of scene before)its okay, they recycled a scene, but why do the CVs let us think that ODG does not know how to unlock a locked car door? ... okay, she did not want to leave, but that editing was a little too much. one sentence of dialogue would have been much better than the whole lock scene.

    buajis wedding lehenga was a filler episode in itself.. way to drag the serial without anything important happening.. just some laughs. ODG wore the ASR-selected lehenga for her wedding, right? (okay, payash wedding, but the fact remains.)

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    1. I know poor Barun...just cause the CV's love to make Arnav carry Khushi every 5 episodes Barun winds up weightlifting all day long...Its a good thing Sanaya is so tiny and light...

      Bet Akshay would get a hernia if Payash had so many fainting and carrying scenes:-p...

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    2. @Gargi....hernia (lol) i remember in one of the sbs segment, when Payash love track was about to start...Barun had a piece of advice for Akshay....."in closeups, place her on the stool" he also added later that 'his girl weighs 750 kgs'

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    3. Jaya,

      Her pag phere gift netter not be the Natraj Murti. It was already Khushi's na.

      On SN1: Payal will defend Khushi to Arnav about RRR. She told Arnav that Khushi was blamed in Lucknow. She told Arnav that Khushi got scolded. And she will be (better be) the one to tell Arnav that Khushi was forced into that engagement and she had wanted to fess up the truth but in both cases gave in to family pressure.

      Payal is very defensive / protective of Khushi.

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    4. @all: I saw the segment too, bhaiya oh bhaiya and barun giving tips to akash. Plz dont misunderstand I think making the girl lie on a bench, he could have been referring to his first costar...cos I just saw a glimpse of that scene where he is hugging her from behind...well let us put it this way, he really would have had to reach out to make sure both his hands met. So If that heroine was there and he had to lift her, I am sure Barun would have either Quit the show for health reasons or got that costar annual gym membership as a gift.

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    5. Shwetha.......i think the PH have showed it as a marriage for the masses who can digest Live-in.....its like take it the way you want...and open-end kind-off thing.....

      Personally, i would have liked it to be a live-in offer from Arnav, so that it would have kept both in character, Arnav not believing in marriage and Khushi rejecting cause live-in is an insult to her.....also then the family's anger would have been logical cause both families are traditional.....

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  17. Hey all.....fantastic discussion everybody......you guys have already said everything i felt.....But I hope ODG keeps her dimaag ki batti on and think in the direction of Shyam truth, cause i feel the cv's won't let it come so easily to her.....so maybe she will put this thought aside thinking that had ASR known about shyam, he wudnt have tolerated him anywhere near Anji....

    I hop she sees ASR-Shyam interaction and realize how strained it has become.....

    Dia....still waiting for ur detailed post, u know how much i look forward to reading it.....

    for the new promo...if its true..then i like Gargi's idea, of just her being drunk and talking bt being so in love with him and him breaking her heart twice.....

    Simply loved the way Sanaya ran towards the Arti crowd on seeing Arnav approach....... this Girl is just too good with comedy.....somebody mentioned that she worked on Housefull 2 which will release in April, look forward to see her, if its true.....will be a joy....

    I was reading bt the review of Paris, London, Newyork today....and it said the movie would have been better if the leads shared a better chemisty and the only people i thought about at that moment were our SaRun.....like if only they had been cast.....hehehe.....

    Did u guys read Gul Khan latest Interview.....Didi ki Saut.....yukksss...the name sucks big time......also i think they had this thought of marrying her to shyam initially and then later looking at our responses changed the track.....thank God for that....

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    1. ewww thanks Cvs for never marrying ODG to the RRR. I hated that after jadoo he nasha he, ASR announced his engmt to La and the broken hearted girl went and accepted the stupid sagaai ka ring from snakewa.. (And remember lol at bitwa rolling and rolling the whole bandage on bitiya's ring finger.. to the accompaniment of every shubh sound in the galaxy. )

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    2. yeah Jaya, even i hated that track.......was dying for the truth to come out, also ASR-LA engagement track was too much to handle.....wud've have been so dark, if the story had taken Shyam-Khushi marriage route....

      they had a similar track in Geet, the female lead marries the much married younger brother / villain...and conceives the baby as well....and later falls in love with the elder brother....dont know how they handled it, cause i just watch the initial episodes....it seemed pretty complicated that time, but i guess they made it look cool.......but there the villain wanted her property, so it wasnt taht bad.....here the villain is lusting after khushi....its so dirty.....seeing him win and marry khushi would have gone totally against the audience.....

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    3. of course they changed it, they cannot make a tv show that people don't want to watch.. and, la was such a blonde bimbo that we turned out liking her.., somewhere i thought ASR announced the engmt to prevent her public humiliation..

      didi ki saut.. my foot!

      now, if it was vaidehi, does it mean that she has to go through agni pariksha to prove her virtue?

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    4. well technically she already is isn't she now from Arnav prove your innocence and then later maybe from others..There is Anjali and later the full family.yuck.

      Okay are they really married or not?

      Sindoor, mangalsutra, public proclamation, grihapravesh all done..So are they really married or is the marriage incomplete.

      Pheres we don't know?

      So any ideas?

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    5. Shwetha.......i think the PH have showed it as a marriage for the masses who can digest Live-in.....its like take it the way you want...an open-end kind-off thing.....

      Personally, i would have liked it to be a live-in offer from Arnav, so that it would have kept both in character, Arnav not believing in marriage and Khushi rejecting cause live-in is an insult to her.....also then the family's anger would have been logical cause both families are traditional.....

      edit : i posted by mistake to ur earlier comment.......hehehe

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    6. Geetu,

      I had alwyas felt that their marriage should be a. The way they got married, even Dia called it a thinly veiled live-in (outright live-in will not gel with masses for leads). I thought they went the marry me now for 6 months (the 6 months being a substitue for the live in and also to prevent any rejection of Khushi to be perceived as her rejection of Arnav.)

      Sigh these are the times you wish it was a novel and not prime time show on Indian telly

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    7. I think now they are properly married...Apart from North India a lot of cultures in India don't consider the pheras the binding part of the marriage but instead put more emphasis on the mangal sutra and sindoor...

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    8. I think they will go through another full marriage at some point, after a whole new lot of trials and tribulations ... in the PH's previous show Geet, the marriage was a huge affair ... so maybe after their first confession, this will happen ... and the first confessions is still a long while away, according to me! :)

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  18. BTW.....Did you guys read the post on IF about Karan (NK)'s tweets.....it mentioned that he is back to IPK shoots after a week of holiday...does that mean they are retaining him.....

    will be good to see him around.....

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      Maybe they will have NK around till after Holi in ArHi land.

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    2. Yea Sandy...maybe he is there only for Holi....

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  19. Dia, Shweths, Sandy...I don't know how I feel about the Shyaam misunderstanding getting cleared up...I mean what purpose will have served? I'm undecided on the whole MU getting cleared and Arhi coming together already...

    I don’t want the misunderstanding to clear right away...I want more angst so that there is no way Khushi agrees to stay beyond the decided 6 months...I want there to be a separation track... I want to see them longing for each other and unable to be together...Both of them realising that they cannot do without the other in their life. Then I want them to come together over something big...

    Like:

    Khushi has returned to Gupta household and they’ve accepted her back. Babuji has a stroke and is hospitalized. Khushi is doing everything and taking care of everything. The Raizada’s arrive with Payal, all rush to the Gupta ladies; Aakash takes charge of the situation and treatment plan for his father-in-law. Khushi slips away from everyone. Arnav looks for her frantically finds her in the same waiting room area the last time her father was hospitalized and this time he rushes to her and pulls her into his arms without any hesitation...flashback of that incomplete hug where he just couldn’t hug her back...she collapses against him and breaks down completely and he carefully sits down and makes her sit on his lap and holds her while she cries. No words. Neither of them says a single word.

    Or

    Khushi has returned to Gupta household and they’ve accepted her back. Anjali has a complication in her pregnancy. She’s rushed to the hospital. Payal tells Khushi who immediately heads to the hospital. Anjali is in surgery prospects are bad. Arnav is yelling at the doctors, shouting and fuming in helplessness at whoever he can while the surgeon operates in the OT. Nani, Mama, Mami, Aakash, Payal all there stricken, none of them able to calm Arnav or stop him, just watch him powerlessly. He’s completely broken and scared. Khushi arrives with rest of the Gupta family in tow. Sees Arnav and how frightened he is and approaches him in full view of the whole family and takes his hand. He stops and looks at her with that completely broken –help me- look. She takes his hand leads him away from everyone and to the small mandir in the hospital. Wipes his tear streaked face makes him light a diya and prays out loud on his behalf to Devi Maiyya, then in the mandir hugs him tight, makes him put his arms around her and hugs him and says Anjali Di will be fine she won’t leave you and nor will I.

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    1. Gargi ...

      *shiddat alert* ... can we have both the above please??? Since I can't decide which one I want more ...

      Do you realize we haven't had a SINGLE hug between the leads? Two kisses yes - no hug.

      I WANT A HUG ... two would be even better.

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    2. I know they've never hugged each other properly...I would kiss the television screen at either of the above scenario's...

      But somehow I want second option more...Khushi is actually stronger than him(is it a woman thing?) and I really want second scene to happen...and for her take his hand in front of their families...accept him publicly and privately with all his bluster and broodiness and say I'm never going to leave you.

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    3. HHUUMM! interesting.. and chances of both coming true are fairly high - both scenarios are possible (infact don't think that ODB's Di will ever carry her baby to term in any case)and personally would not mind either (of the scenes - not Di's kid) :D
      However, in the second one i would not like ODG taking ODB to the mandir, she will be doing what Anjali has been doing all along, forcing him to do these things for her sake - it would be more meaningful if he did it on his own or asked Khushi for help in how to pray, you know that kind of stuff...
      And to your earlier point - i understand your point on separation but i don't want this track to continue for six months - it will become one of the many Ekta K stories out there - yes i understand your reasons for a separation - that should happen but the MU needs to clear up - relationships do get affected by such MU - plus they need to fight off the bad guy together (how, don't ask me - haven't thought it through and that will kind of depend on how low RRR is going to stoop!)

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    4. I like both. Except I want all this to happen when Khushi is still in RM. Dunno why.

      What I am hoping from this holi track is Arnav realizes that maybe what Shyam lied to him about Khushi. Which is why I want the bhang sequence Khushi telling him how she feels. So Bitwa goes, What if I am wrong about KHushi and Shyam lied to me. Let MU not be cleared rightaway or atleast for another 2 weeks cos Rather than Khushi telling him, I want Arnav to come to that conclusion on his own.

      Arnav slipped and Khushi had her Menthos moment. Sameway let Khushi slip and Arnav have his.

      Let it be a journey of both finding out the truth.

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    5. @ gargi, I love that second scene, when she will be able to calm him with a touch. aakhir dil ka rishtha hain, and i want it to be in full public, just like you said. shiddat!

      I dont want her to stay at gupta house ever again.. mucho bettero if this happens when she's still at RM. I hate that buaji( you know, she's so true to life.. i have had unmarried women relatives cook up schemes in their head and impose it on others..and very easy to influence ODG, she is an orphan..)

      I want ODG to be drunk and call the RRR a snakewa. Privately or not, it has to happen. shiddat!

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    6. Yeah actually I agree I want Gupta's to accept her but for her to never be near that awful interfering buaji's influnece...okay so Dia had also suggested this to me last time when I insisited on separation...ODG does walk out of ASR's life but then he goes after her and convince her to stay back for Di, Nani, her own families izzat etc and she agrees but they're not together...but because ODG says so and then one of the above scenes and they're finally together! until the next calamity hits IPK land of course...

      and Jaya seriously want holi to happen and I want her to be drunk...

      ASR to take care of her for her to fess up just how in love with him she is...

      or...Shyaam to try and take care of and she totally jhidkofies him in front of Arnav and says something to the effect of haat mat lagao humme- humare pati humara dhyaan rakh sakte hain and of course promptly has trouble walking and an utterly confused Arnav is left to take care of her...

      Like Shwetha even I want Arnav to figure out the MU on his own rather than khushi try and prove her innocence...

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    7. yes gargi, ODB wont know what to do when he is expected to take care of his "wife" in front of everyone else. it would be hilarious to have a What the! moment during holi.

      I sort of miss the old arrogance that was ASR. I mean, as soon as he fell in love, he turned into such a charmer and (mere hisaab se) lost his edge. of course, i enjoyed the bits like the waiter drama and the bindi scene along with everybody else, but now he's become more of a chocolate hero than the bad boy. Know what I mean?

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    8. Oh Yeah I really miss some of the snarky impatient Arnav scenes. Right now he really really hates her but before when he used to just find her annoying and ajeeb and couldn't understand his attraction for her there were some really great ASR moments...

      But they had to progress...And anyway Arnav in love is still not chocolate boy hero types IMO...he's still a little uncomfortable in that role...the sari scene was such a perfect contrast between guys like Akash, NK and ASR...

      NK so openly happily tells her pick my sari, You look beautiful, you'e so sweet etc...I just don't see ASR doing that even when they're properly together -just doesn't suit him...and its fun to watch him enjoy himself making her uncomfortable and give her back handed compliments...(post teri meri sequence...vaise yeh rang tumpe itna bura bhi nahi lagta...mujhe thank you nahi kahogi?...tum hamesha peeche kyun jaati ho?)

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    9. @Gargi, Shwetha, Jaya and Dia,
      I agree, want this MU sorted, want her to walk out et all but not go back to the Guptas, he has to get her back - their problems are theirs alone, they can sort it out!

      So want ODB to figure out things on his own, use his brains and his heart!! its ok if ODG provides some inkling of her innocence and HE puts 2 and 2 together! even better if he does it in his style, with his kind of arrogance (or SADA HAQ rather) - despite being the pro women's lib kinds am a sucker for ODB taking care of ODG and she willingly belonging to him :D

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    10. Mona even I prefer when they keep their issues to themselves...and to their credit they do actually keep EVERYTHING that happened and happens between them very private...another reason why the Gupta's are so shocked...at least in RM nani and Anjali had gotten clued in to the gutta goo love birds lol...So yeah keeping it all between themselves...

      You know I wouldn't mind if the separation track was kept just between them either. I mean that the rest of the family never coming to know what Arnav did to Khushi. She finds out, and is hurt and they have a separation track but for the sake of Di etc he convinces her to stay in RM and eventually they sort it out (scene 1/2 pls pls pls!)...and she protects him even through all this by not letting anyone come to know exactly how they got married...

      But I'm torn...

      I somehow also want Nani to know, her opinion matters and I want Arnav to tell her and the rest of the family, protect Khuhsi's reputation-wipe the slate clean for her and take the blame on himself...him to be the one to defend her to them all and explain how there was no fault of hers...

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    11. Me too want him to find it out on his own......as it is dont think he will believe her since he has already accepted that she was acting out earlier......so if she tries to prove her innocence he will think she is lying again....

      this is what i should happen..she will doubt that he knows that shyam is a cheat but wont delve much on it since shyam is still around....but she will try to find out how has she hurt him.....he will start seeing how much she really cares for anjali as much as her care for payal.....and probbaly will have his mentos moment that when he blackmailed her bt her jiji's marriage, she could have used shyam's trump card against him....saying if he stops payash wedding, she will ask shyam to dump anjali....but since she didnt do taht...maybe she isnt involved....and then he will start softening towards her.....slowly the trust starts building again....she is still confused but again hopefull....in-between shyam is pre-occupied with his failure plans....then when they are about to confess again shyam plays his card right and tells khushi the reason arnav married her.........she's all broken that he didnt trust her....and offers to leave since 6 months are over.....he is shocked and confused, dont know how to stop her........in desperation asks her to stay back for anjl's delivery (thats why only 6 months contract initially)........she is sad that he asked for anjali and not cause he wants her to stay, agrees...but stays aloof.......nnow in these remaining 3 months he tries everything to prove to her, how much he loves her, but she doesnt believe him, thinks he is play-acting for anjali's sake.....

      finally he confesses that he loves her dammit....and shyam who was poisoning anjali's mind against khushi.....plays his final move (dont know what he will tell anji) but she will ask arnav to choose between her and khushi.......now here....i cant think of what arnav will do........since the beginning we have been fed with this thought that he will let go of his khushi (happiness) for anji but the spoilers said that once their (ArHi) trust is build he will go against the world (here i think it means anji, as for him, his world is anji) so he might go against anji and leave the house with khushi......

      wow.....that was a long comment.....phew

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    12. @ Gargi,

      Oh i so agree - i def want nani to know - in fact i wanted ODG's father to know too - i know i am going to sound like an old dhakyanusi hag but i so wanted one of the two elders to bless them together - say that they knew what this couple had done for the family and that they completely appreciated it - and ODB looks at ODG with pride "yes, she looked after everything" kind of smile and she is all - 'its my family after all'

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    13. Especially if Babuji is going to be exitting...I know he has unwavering faith in Khushi but still I want for him to know the truth and for Arnav to say to him don't worry I will always look after her and be there for her. What Akash said was sweet and damn brotherly but I want Arnav to make his sadda haq stance clear to babuji too, before/because he has another stroke/relapse/exits the show whichever.

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    14. This became a long thread!!!
      I agree with Shweths ... I would like if ODG now made a slip and Arnav started connecting the dots, and figured out on his own that she loves him ... the upcoming Holi drunk act is a good time to do that one.

      Also agree that Khushi shouldn't go back to GH - let Arnav beg her to stay on at RM, and then their further story progress ... I really do want that one of him losing his cool over Di, and Khushi being the one to hold him together by being his strength, holding his hand in full view of the entire family, reassuring him that she is there for him ... even better, it could happen after another of their fights ... so like the way they were not talking to each other, then the talking to his mom under the stars happened and they started talking again instantly, it would be beautiful if he sees that even in the middle of their fight, if he needs her, she's there for him instantly ... always.

      I want her to cry in his arms ... but that one in private :)

      I want Babuji and Nani to know the truth, especially Nani to know that she went through all this for Anjali ... then Khushi's place as far as Nani is concerned will be set in stone ...

      Agree with Geetu, that Khushi will only tell him/ know of the Shyam being her fiance bit initially, and not the lies Shyam has told Arnav ... and Arnav figures out that part on his own ... that will prolong the truth coming out in stages (we need to reach 500 episodes, remember ;) ) ... so that builds the junoon in Arnav even more to get back against Shyam ... and then Shyam works on Anjali ...

      Phew!!! This could go on for years!!! Well, we're not complaining! The more ArHi the better!

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    15. @geetanjali, i love your story. 500 episodes, and fully entertaining.. no dragging. and tense till the end.. you should step into the screenplay world!

      mona, gargi,. dia, yes. bitwa has to learn that this girl was in love with him . then he will get added guilt that he misused his power over her. and he starts treating her nicely.. and ODG will get all confused. let him never explain the whole thing. until, in the middle of a shouting match, it falls out.. he he now i am writing the story, not analysing the episodes.

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  20. Edited main post finally! :)))

    NK is going to be around for a bit longer? That's great news - I really like him! If he's there till Holi, it will liven up things a lot ... we might get a song and dance, because he can dance well!

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    1. When I was reading your full post I got that funny feeling in my stomach; associated with flights landing, roller coasters lurching and when that guy your crushing on smiles and looks precisely at you.

      So well put...Well worth the wait Dia!!!...totally Haayyyeee:-D

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    2. There is no confirmation of that yet. I think he was referring to the fact that he was back after a week's absence as he came only during the pag phera scene was absent during muh dikhai...I think the PH would have asked him to stay a bit longer, maybe just shoot for a day when they can all his scenes just so his character stays.

      GOOD NEWS: Apparantly Abhaas is okay now, so I think we can expect more Arnav vs Shyam

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  21. Dia - I have to say that today's post has been one of your best since the time I have gotten hooked to your blog. You have captured every scene , every moment in great detail . And of course love your personal takes/views to each scene. Thanks for taking the time to update even while travelling. I know how hectic India visits can get :-)
    Am in a bt of rush today but will spend the evening / later tonight reading everyone's comments. All of you are such wonderful writers.
    And I have become a fan of your shiddats. Are you sure , one of you don't work for the PH :-)
    I have a good mind to send a link to LM . Lovely ideas

    Till later,

    Sahana

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    1. Sahana.....when I started reading Dia's blog, i was convinced that she was from the cv's.......she would explain it so beautifully, i would read it and watch the episode again and then understand and enjoy it better.....

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    2. Aww, thanks so much, guys, this post was made after reading all the discussions here, so for this, everyone can take a collective bow :)))

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    3. Dia,

      Truly a wonderful post. I love the new title: I Hate You Because You have the Power to Hurt Me. Looking forward to the day when the title would read

      I Hate You Because You have the Power to Hurt Me - because I have given you the power to let you hurt me (once when bitwa's battui's light up?)

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  22. Dia: Hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy what a post ya!!!I loved the touch of DM bringing together two of her roothay huay Kiddos not only together but closer to her. Ya, I still believe Arnav is only gussa with DM for what happened and is not exactly an atheist.

    And what about how you hurt me...Barun nailed it there. And Sanaya's shocked and soft, I did what???

    I still can't get Sanaya's Aap kya chahtay hain humsay during bandagement scene out of my head...that still ranks equal with so many of barun's thud moments.

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  23. Dia, lovely post. I loved your explanation of the mandir step tears. makes perfect sense.

    anjali's dialogue makes a point.. ODG's mom and bua harped on her and asserted that she was not allowed to be part of their family because of her sheer selfishness,which, according to them, was due to her being not sagi beti.. whatever they think in their mind, this is what they told her. Khushi was shattered and had nowhere to go. the only person who supports her (, gets her, only person she can talk to..)is arnav, and that too is such a quagmire.

    anjali's affirmation, even in past tense, is that we love you, even though what you did was wrong. we are sad because of that, but we will (a long road later) forgive you because we love you.

    and then the question.. untold.. we wanted you to marry him khushi,we would have been happy to do all the rasms and sambars and welcome you into our house as bahu.. but why did you elope? what was the emergency? why can't you tell us? what did you (expect to )gain with an emergency wedding?

    and that is the question that triggers ODG's dimag ki batti.

    so I beleive anjali's conversation was very necessary.

    p.s. and it also reminded ODG that she was important, she had a firm place in raizada house and their hearts, she was not as orphaned as she thought.

    anjali is chote's di.. she has been mother to him for so long. lets assume she was talking with the mother's voice..and always wanted his happiness. she can see that he is not happy, he is lying to her, he looks like he is dead inside, she wants some answers. is that meddling?

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    1. Hey Dia..
      The GR8 awards are on Sony TV today at 5.30pm Indian Time...I guess you might already know about this..hope you see this message in case you did not know ;-)

      TC!

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    2. Thanks, Appy, I didn't know ... and I saw this in time ... yippee, will watch them! Thanks a ton *hugs*

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    3. Jaya,
      I have no objections to Anjali's dialogues about telling Khushi that yes, we knew you, we liked you, we don't have any objection per se to your being Chotey's wife, it's just the way you both did it that hurt us ...

      But what I didn't like was her timing ... was it essential to go to their room right then to say it? Ok, we know it was to interrupt ODG's questioning, otherwise Arnav was having a hard time holding his quiet in front of her ... but in terms of her character, it seemed another of Anjali's self-righteous 'I am Ms Fix-it' turns (as Sandy so accurately termed it).
      So Anjali discovers that Khushi and Arnav have been lying about the pag phera, she guesses correctly that Khushi is very upset about it and she wants to talk to her ... to reassure her that Khushi has a place in heir house even if she has been thrown out of her own ...
      But Arnav knows that also, it's very clear from what Payal said ... and Arnav has taken his wife to their room to talk to her alone ... he brought her back to RM holding her hand, already making a statement that he's with her all the way, regardless of what happened at her parents' house ... what was the need for Anjali to rush to speak to Khushi with that reassurance? Why did she have to interrupt the couple's private talk? She could have waited, right? That was what got me again a little suspicious about Anjali's character ... and the fact that she didn't really land up reassuring Khushi at all, she just upset her all over again ... so it was more like she needed to know what had happened, because she was the only one left out ... Arnav Khushi knew the truth, and even more, Payal and Akash also knew the truth ... only she didn't ...

      And also, the cv's culd actually turn this another way later ... Anjali getting insecure at Arnav-Khushi's growing closeness because it means losing her place in Arnav's life. This adds t the Anjali discussions we've been having above. I am getting more and more intrigued by her character - it has suddenly gotten a lot of possible shades added.

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    4. Dia, Jaya,

      In continuation of the various posts that have dissected Anjali's character, here's my two-pence addition..
      The thing that rankles me is the sudden rigidity that seems to have crept in to her characterisation, almost fishy...If the CVs intend to use it some way in the future, they are really laying the background to it...the phsychoanalysis that many have done for Anjali will be well-worth it....else I find it all very strange..

      Anjali's insistence on rasams to the point of ignoring the meaning behind it is so strange..Its like saying I don't like what u guys have done...but I want the ceremonial aftermath to be handled well...some hypocrisy this...it also so reeks of a person who is delusional. Like all I care is that the world must work in a way I determine..else i will find a way to fix in the way i like it to be, your feelings be damned..no doubt they have still kept it very civil at this stage, but I can accept that she can so easily go over the edge
      Before the MU, i used to think of a scenario when Arnav and Khushi are involved and the sudden unfolding of the Shyam fiasco and I used to wonder how can LG reconcile to a relationship with KKG in this background with the Di shadow looming over them.. But luckily that did not happen, I am glad Arnav is aware of the shyam truth (though, warped) and has already forged a relationship with Khushi, however fragile. This gives him the ammuninition to save his relationship with KKG in a better manner than in the earlier scenario and sets up the Arnav-KKG-Anjali equation rather well..

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    5. Jaya, Rekha,
      Yap, Anjali's character is becoming strange for sure ... in Sandy's and Shwetha's analysis above, they pointed out that Anjali is behaving like a closet control freak, and that her insistence on rasams is becoming obsessive ... as though she wants to ensure the legality of the marriage at all costs to the family, which includes Shyam - and ensure Khushi is accepted by everyone as a Raizada bahu and Arna's wife.

      Surprisingly, she doesn't seem to be worried about the marriage per se - if it was actually legal, did they take the pheras or not - it's more about her - HER feelings have been hurt by both Arnav and Khushi, Arnav is her Chotey, so he should have told her, confided in her, and Khushi was the girl SHE had chosen for Arnav, so Khushi should have come into the house via the Nani Anjali arranged marriage route, as Anjali's choice for Arnav.
      She challenged Arnav's choice of La, but was forced to bend back and accept La when Arnav threatened to walk out of the house and live with La, similarly, she challenged him about Khushi and was forced back again and had to accept Khushi.

      Now what is bothering her more? The way the marriage was conducted? Or the fact that SHE is in the dark about the reason? That's one point - is it her usual worry about traditions, riti rivaz, part of her obsession that things will go wrong if the gods are not appeased, because so many things went wrong with them in the past? Or is it that she is always the one who is understanding, approachable to all, everyone's confidante, and now she seems to have lost that place?

      Or are the cv's laying the foundation for the next revelation ... that she did suspect Shyam all along, maybe she did overhear that terrace conversation, or somehow she has known about Shyam's lack of feelings for her always, and has ignored it as long as he keeps paying her lip-service, lets her stay in her maayka and live her own life but under the guise of being a happily married woman. Because face it, she has a great life - she rules the Raizada house, everyone bows to all her wishes and she is the undisputed kingpin there.
      But although she doesn't care whether Shyam loves her or not, but she DOES want that facade of a happy marriage, she definitely doesn't want her marriage to break. One extreme - she fakes her pregnancy. Not so extreme - pregnancy is real, but she planned it when she realized Shyam was straying ... and she does know about Shyam Khushi, knows that Khushi will not break her marriage (either because she overheard them or because she actually knows Khushi better than Arnav does) ... so Khushi being Arnav's wife is even better for her - Khushi is well and truly out of Shyam's reach, and Arnav is the one husband who will stick to Khushi even if he finds out about Shyam wanting her - any other husband might throw out his wife if Shyam fed him the same lies, but Arnav won't, because he will save his sister's marriage regardless of his own feelings. And so she wants to make sure of Khushi's position in the house, hence the insistence on all the rasams. Not realizing the depth of Arnav's feelings in all this ...

      Phew!!! Did I make any sense at all?

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    6. Okay I'm kind of going against the current here but in all honesty I don't think Anjali overheard the terrace conversation. There is no justifiable reason for her to allow Khushi to enter RM even as a married woman. Its too absurd. Also 'If' her husband was cheating on her with Khushi and she knew she would not be okay with Arnav marrying Khushi-no matter what she is she genuinely cares about Arnav and would not want him to sacrifice his reputation and happiness for her sake.

      As for the rasams...somewhere I wonder if her insistence that things happens the way our culture sees fit is because perhaps when she got married it did not happen that way and for her brothers' weddings she does not want anything left incomplete. They must have the best most auspicious start she can give them.

      And I must agree with Jaya on this...I don't know if you can call her meddling and controlling. No doubt her going to their room when he says he wants to talk to Khushi privately was a faux pas..but that was more for timing in the serial and to give Arnav an out than a reflection on Anjali.

      Anjali can see the turmoil and pain both Arnav and khushi are going through and also see the friction between them. As an elder sister who is the only person left in her brother's immediate family I don't think its wrong for her to be so worried and intrusive. Clearly something is wrong. I have a younger brother with a huge age gap and we are very close and if I could see something is bothering him and he's not telling anyone...I would be stern and persistent too-simply because unless he doesn't tell someone no one can help him or understand why he's upset.

      It would have been a different thing if ASR and ODG were genuinely okay and just waiting for the families to cool down-but clearly there's more to it than that...And Arnav has realized that his Di has realized this ...hence the kheer sequence to pacify di and assure her that he's happy and he's never cared what the world thinks but things are good between him and his wife.

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    7. Gargi,

      Finally it comes down to whether Anjali is all white or has shades of gray and or can get gray enough to tend towards black.

      I am ok with your possibility too. She did not hear anything. She wants the rasams done for the sake of completeness and auspiciousness. Fine. she did all the R family bit. She got K dropped off to her house for that rasam. But if G family refused to do it, what can anybody have done.

      What grates is her choosing to repeat emphasisze about the importance of the rasams to her. About her having been very hurt by it all.

      Both Arnav and Khushi know she sets a lot in store by these things. Both know she has been hurt. So far the only thing they did against her beliefs is the secret marriage.

      Whythe need to tell Khushi - tho u tried to hide it from me I know all did not go well. Is he emphasis on I know instead of not going well?

      Why not read Arnav Khushi's pained looks as the result of teh family's hurt and their anger towards them. What cause does Anji have to guess there is friction b/w Arnav and Khushi? Only that Arnav forgot the bangles, but is that reason enough? Any tension between them can easily be attributed to the family atmosphere too. She believes they had a SR. Arnav agrees to drop K for her pag phere, he went to pick her up. He silenced guests for behaving rudely to his wife. Khushi's torment could be her family being riitha with her.

      The Anji of yore wud have said hum jaante hain aapne yeh humaare liye kiya / aapne yeh isliye kiya. Now why no hum jaante hain - hence wondering if her not jaanana is upsetting her. where was her concern when her bro looked distracted on payash wedding (thrilled byher pregnancy u may say and yes possible. too happy being pregnant to notice).

      Through it all her steadfastedness has been to know why. Nani and mami have stopped asking why and have just accpeted Khushi as the bahu and moved on.

      "There is no justifiable reason for her to allow Khushi to enter RM even as a married woman. Its too absurd. Also 'If' her husband was cheating on her with Khushi and she knew she would not be okay with Arnav marrying Khushi-no matter what she is she genuinely cares about Arnav and would not want him to sacrifice his reputation and happiness for her sake" - She could not say anything once Arnav said he will walk out if Khushi is not accepted. Arnav means much more to Anji than any other issues like you said. So she had to allow Khushi in. And maybe her insistence of the rasams and constant probing of Khushi is to figure out if Khushi genuinely loves Arnav.

      Concern for her bro's happiness - totally acceptable and applicable. Qn is does she also have an ulterior motive?

      Just exploring possible thoughts here - not sure how much sense i have made here.

      Its just my mind wondering, today Khushi stood abandoned by her family. What would be a similar abandonement for Arnav in the future such that he feels orphaned again? Would Anjali make Arnav leave Khushi after Shyam truth expose - she has always inherently believed in Khushi;s goodness and if by then arnav believes her then she would have no reason to doubt Khushi. Chotey's words should be enough. Or does she make Arnav leave Khushi at a later date? If yes why?

      We have so far had confrontations b/w
      Shyam - Khushi
      Shyam - Arnav
      Arnav - Khushi / Lhushi - Arnav (Rabba Ve Rabbe Ve!!)

      I want to also see / will be very interesting to se in what setup they occur
      Anjali - Arnav
      Anjali - Khushi

      Anjali Shyam may also happen.

      And no I am not hell bent on making her an evil one. Its just this feeling that the CVs are toying with some kind of googly with her. :) :) :)

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    8. awesome discussion about Anjali...the cv's have made it so meaty...isnt it ? can take it any route and still seem plausible....

      I agree with Dia's last para....if u guys have seen pakistani serial shehre-dil key darwaaze....just watched a few episodes.....i read on IF that IPK is based on that novel....though i watched the serial, which it seems is slightly different...there the sister knew that her husband was planning to marry the female lead (as its allowed in Islam) and she forces her brother to marry the girl.....

      So maybe they want to take it that way but with the big twist that they are talking about.....

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    9. Hum i kind of agree with Gargi - i know i am really pissed at Anjali being all controlling and freakish but is she that grey?? don't know - also was just thinking - is she so fixated on the ceremonies because of what happened at her 'first wedding' - could it be that somethings were done and others not - so the wedding could be annulled or broke up - so she feels that if the Gods are not appeased, it would be catastrophic?

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    10. Mona and Gargi, I do agree, the cv's haven't shown Anjali veering down the grey path yet ... these were just thoughts that came up because of Gul's interview and the slightly abnormal fixation she has been showing on completing all the rasams ...
      It could be because of her past and what happened at her wedding, it could be because she's just over-possessive of Arnav again because of their past, and if we get Anjali to go more grey, it could be because of all we just discussed :)

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  24. How does the Post comments (atom) page work? When I click on it, it open a script page and I don't know what to do after that!!

    Help Me please:-(

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    1. Gargi let me try my best to explain. Click on latest post of Dia'a blog. Scroll down you will see comments (without the comments being visible).

      Click comments and then you can see all the comments on this post.

      Now if you have firefox go to Bookmarks, click it will open. You can see subscribe to this page option with an arrow mark. click on the arrow mark, you will get 3 options, subscribe to r&r atom, r&r rss, r&r (the last one) atom comments.

      Now since this is march, first i clicked the r&r rss for all the posts dia will make for this month.

      Then again bookmarks - subscribe - this time r&r last one comments.

      Click and now in your bookmark toolbar, you should have both R&R POSTS, r&r comments.

      Hope this helps:)

      Oh and the comment feed subscription you have to change everytime the new post is up, i think..atleast that is what i do.

      So basically on tuesday morning, when i see the new post is up, i will delete this post wala comment feed and subscribe to the new post feed.

      Hope i didnt confuse more.

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    2. Thank You Shweths!!!!

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  25. My Arhi song for this weekend (they played it on the last SBB segment and I looked it up. Its from Tanu weds Manu)

    Kitne dafe dil ne kaha, dil ki suni kitne dafe
    Waise toh teri na mein bhi maine dhoond li apni khushi
    Tu jo agar haan kahe toh baat hogi aur hi
    Dil hi rakhne ko kabhi, upar upar se sahi keh dena haan
    Keh dena haan yun hi
    Kitne dafe dil ne kaha, dil ki suni kitne dafe


    IP rumours:
    1. Apparently there is this new promo of ArHi and holi for SPA in the same clothes as the Intl's jodi promo. If true, can be quite hayyeeee, I think ;)
    2. Abhaas met with an accident!

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    1. I read that SPA rumour and spent three hours with SP on silent through some torturous serials ... lord, how much crap is there on SP! But didn't see the ArHi promo :(((

      Maybe it will air during IPK tonight ...

      Read the Abhaas accident news - so that may be why the ME got postponed too ... which means they might actually have a fairly detailed track planned out already. Here's hoping ...

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  26. Girls,

    Never in my life I had thought I'd been worrying about Snakewa. But with Shyam out injured, how will Arhi story move forward? Our ODB won't do anything unless given a big push by Snakewa.


    I also think they had to cancel the ME because o Abhaas's accident. The schedule got pushed out because they won't be able to reach the milestone before ME.

    Thoughts?

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    1. The ME is cancelled??:-(

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    2. Gargs,

      I saw that too :( IF is rife with rumours flying thick and fast. New holi bhang promo, RRR met with an accident and not shooting and the latest *ahem* spoiler w/o a confession. Total blankout by the PH also.

      So now I am just looking at the precap for today and our shiddats for this week. Some girl power to K. Some HMC in front of RRR, Nihaarofying and getting carried away.

      Bas it na sa khwaab hai ;-)

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    3. PH means Production House, In this case 4 lions.

      @rumors on consummation:

      Thou shall not believe the spoilers

      Thou shall nt believe the promo

      Thou shall not believe the actual scene too...Kya pata break ke baad pata chalay sapna tha,lol.

      You know today in Sathya's thread, we just goofed around about that, the common consensus if it were to happen, when it happens, there should be no regret on either side, no diwali type fights, both should know what they are doing...Okay that didn't come out right..I mean they should be conscious of what they are doing...

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    4. So Girls, that blackmail promo is now history? I know CVs tend to have back-up scenarios all the time but this really takes the cake...no no..make it bakery. They show a promo and now have decided based on reactions, that it is stupid and have dumped it? Chalo acchha hain... CVs tell us your ideas in advance and we will iron out the discrepancies for u?

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    5. Sandy I'm with you...not taking any of the rumours seriously...simply I'll get all happy and then none of it will happen!...:-(

      Guys on a totally different note...I know the epi aired friday but I was just thinking about the much discussed Anajli scene and realised the cv's could have done the interruption differently.

      Instead of Anjali who knew Arnav wanted to speak to Khushi privately, Payal should have been the one to provide him an out on the pretext of giving khushi her gift...It makes more sense that Arnav would see Payal and leave her alone with Khushi rather than walking away from his sister calling out his name. Payal could have given the gift to khushi and reiterated how broken her parents were and to please explain...It makes more sense than Anjali getting all worked up out of the blue I think. And Khushi could have been overcome with emotion at her gift and sisters perseverance and run off to take refuge in the kitchen with her jalebis and switch on her dimaag ki batti...

      maybe we would have gone a little easier on Anjali then...Lol...oh well that was friday...lets see what's in store for today...

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    6. Gargi re..

      tu abhi tak us scene pe atki hai. shiddat scnees pe dhyaan de. aur phir kya pataa aaj RRR aa jaayega.

      Rekha,

      We still have today and tomorrow till the next promo airs. Maybe they will do something with the last promo. Also, now that Khushi knows Arnva is hurt and he needs her help with this naatka, easier for her to call the bluff when he says I will drop Payal home. Having said they need to be HMC to avoid Di stress, she can askso u think dropping Payal home will not stress her? And me not coming back will not stress her..BS - come clean as to why I need to do this naatak and continue to lie for u.

      Better yet, if she airs her man ki batti and asks, is it bcos of SHyam cos then I am ready!!Hahaha yeh thods jyaada hi ho jaayega

      And I am sure the CVs know of this blog and are silently stalking it :)

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    7. Hahaha..yeah I'm getting to influenced by Arhi...my dimaag ki batti got lit 3 days later on that scene...

      hehehe..if they are stalking us then folks we better up the wishlist;-)

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  27. Hi Diya,

    Atlast I tapkafied here also:))) LOL already missing the emotes.
    Loved your analysis for Friday epi..one of the best in recent times.
    You gals have a nice place here..very cosy and homely!
    Me have to get used to it here...hope I get some help if I am wrong in posting..I have to get intro to other members here...glad to see many here with similar thoughts.

    Shwethu, me here:) When buaji gave the clothes to kushi first thought was about your wishlist..here goes Shwetha's wish of him taking her to shopping..LOL

    You all are pants at words and I feel so juvenile...so sorry excuse me all!

    Coming to epi..loved the lift..what a smooth one it was..I can drool on Arnie here right..hehehe...and her getting emotional..that feeling of belonging sinking into her for the first time after he pronounced her as his wife:)) absolutely loved that scene..have watched it plenty times already.

    Will come back tomorrow after epi..actually was thinking of dropping here from tomorrow but then I thought let me do it today itself being Monday why start on Tuesday...LOL..so much for my analysis..ROFL

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    1. FINALLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY....Look who tapkofied, Hello hi, Welcome.

      Oye, Bua's gathri does not count I am just hoping atleast once he sees her in her night Kurtis either pink or purple, Heck I drool over her in that...Bitwa kya cheez hai...Aye hayee kitna cheesy na, lol.

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    2. *rofl rofl rofl* guess what Prove what Iam not a robot was..

      ASERCUT....as in ASR's Haircut...Looks like Blogger too got so used to our Haircut shiddat....

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    3. Thanks for the welcome Shwethu..hugs back at you:))
      Do I have to prove everytime that I am not a robot...cant I skip it???

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    4. Look who's hereeeee :))))) Welcome shelcome, Zu *hugs*

      Kindly attend to Members introduction post and post your credentials there :)))

      Half an hour to the next episode, I just managed to land up here - need to catch up with all the news and gossip ...

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  28. Sorry for spamming, check this thread interesting discussion on consummation...http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2827963

    And guess what I am thinking now - MIG Alert..

    No I have not seen either of those couples nor am I going to..

    My Dimagwa goes...Wow full 8-9 minutes, will we get lucky or will they cut it short like Teri Meri?

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    1. Shweths,

      Teri Meri was nearly 6 min bey! yeh toh poora 1st segment hona chaahiye ;) And with their chemistry, seriously screens may combust :p

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    2. Shwethu that link has both ekta shows..and ekta comes out with some hot hot SRs..so stop ur dreams in track...ur not getting anything like that...if you want to know how SR will be check out geet's SR thats what u will get..Nissar is too much into subtlism..where is the angry button?

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    3. Sandy, Teri meri was barely 3 minutes that was passionate.. I think rest was rabba vey with loads of FBs....Dil maangay more...Yeah, Let them create a record of 10-12 minutes,lol.

      *SHIDDAT* WITH YOU on this Sandy, 1ST FULL segment should be them*Hayeeeeeeee*

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    4. Oyeee hoyeeeeee ... what news is this???
      *SHIDDAT ALERT* ... Let the full force be with this one :))) And make sure to have fire extinguishers ready!!!

      Nope, I haven't seen either of the couples, and with my internet speed, I won't manage to either, so forget it, not interested ... I only want to see ArHi now.

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  29. Dia,

    Heard the earth tremored in your part of the world today. All well with you I hope. TC

    Any other ladies in that part of the world, hope all is well with you.

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  30. Shwethu that link has both ekta shows..and ekta comes out with some hot hot SRs..so stop ur dreams in track...ur not getting anything like that...if you want to know how SR will be check out geet's SR thats what u will get..Nissar is too much into subtlism..where is the angry button?

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    1. I dont even want to know what happened at Geet, let us see jab hoga tab dekhengay...Waisay aur kar bhi kya saktay hain, lol

      Zu, YOU have to do the robot thing everytime and emotions...you have to spell it out.

      @Dia: There was an earthquake in Delhi? Hope you & your family is fine.

      @Rekha, Gargi, Sandy: Till the 2 hours thing happens, we wont get a new promo.

      And also at Anjali, the max they might show she knew all along, but with all her poojas and thalis they will never make her negative..The beauty of this show is so far except no one is white or black..everyone has their own grey shades, so let us see.

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    2. Shwetha,
      even the blog "backend" is not immune to bitwa's charms hehehe..
      NICE CUT THAT!!

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    3. Except for RRR you mean...who's totally barmy and walking between charcoal grey and midnight black. His only defense is his wife is totally loony.

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    4. Gargi...oops meant to type in shyam..my keyboard skills are slower than my thoughts lol.

      Waisay, good point wife is pooja obsessed, suffocates him and you know the weirdest part, he genuinely believes he is in love with khushi.

      Rekha: I know right:)

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    5. All fine, girls, thanks for asking, it was a mild tremor when I am, nothing happened.

      Gargi, ROFL at your comment about RRR's defense being his loony wife!

      Rekha, too true!!

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  31. Woohoo 150 comments!!! Wanna bet if C happens we will touch 200, lol.

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  32. NEW TAGLINE ALERT:

    Khushi issues a challenge to Arnav..Will Arnav tell the truth about Arhi marriage to the families?

    Ae le lo...we are back to challenge, shart again...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

    Gargi - C = Consummation.

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  33. EEEEEE,

    were we right or were we right - bitwa's concern teh only real part of that kheer scene was also misinterpreted by ODG. And she said it..yippee..u can stop it now..

    and the precap - O.M.G!

    calling the bluff and kitne style main..dia new post jaldeeeeee

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  34. Who was it Sandy or Gargi who said the she will push the water away....

    START GLOATING...DUHHHHHHHH

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    1. :):) Jumping up and down when I saw it happen..Yes Yes Yes..I wanted this! I wanted this! and so did all the R&R ladies.

      Khushi ki gaddi nikal padi re...

      Shwets, if not for playact how THUD and Hayyeee where bitwas' dialogues to bitiya today....

      Big C ho ya na ho - bas yeh nok khok chalta rahe and holi is coming - RAIN SONG / WET IN POOL / DRENCHED FOR HOLI *SHIDDAT ALERT*

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  35. Shiddat Shiddat Shiddat.....
    KP take advantage of Holi and tries to rub gulal on ODG's face. She hides behind Bitwa and holds his shirt for support. He gets all protective towards his girl. Then he sees Anjali there & thinks it's all an act and punishes her by grabbing hold of her and rubs color on her face..

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