Shiddats for the Week
More ArHi romance ... some chori chori chupke chupke stuff, as Khushi goes to GH.
SN - Don't know why I'm surprised, actually ... they just agreed to accept each other as man and wife, and big C not happening yet ... so there had to be a separation! As long as it is accompanied by some serious wooing, am okay :)
Payal to retain and grow that newly developed - sorry, re-emerged spine of hers ... you go, girl!!!
Khushi stand as a brick for Arnav, help him deal with his crazy, insecure depressed sister ... some more of those 'look after yourself' scenes, some Khushi looking after Arnav scenes ...
One put down of Mami by Arnav ... please, just one! She's begging for it now. :)) Utkarshaji must be as unhappy as DB was ... she played a great role for two months, and now is back to typical nasty saas.
More Payash, and less Anjali, especially Crybaby Anjali. If she starts growing a spine, then give her some more screen space ... four minutes is about my upper limit for Cryanji.
Teej ... a really good one, complete with Arnav breaking Khushi's fast lovingly in GH ... and hopefully teaching his bratty brother to do the same. But if you don't have time for Payash, it's ok, we don't mind, Nani will ensure the basic minimum for them anyway.
Added - Khushi to wear the red saree Arnav gifted her on her birthday, for Teej.
Shiddats realised last week ... the force was with us, but we were pretty modest in our demands :))
We got some ArHi romance, and more wooing after the birthday party.
Didn't get star gazing yet :( ... Never mind, we are patient people ...
Better wardrobes for the leads, especially Sanaya! Why was she given that teekha lime and lemon to wear for the romantic scenes? Why not the red or the purple?
Sama, you got your shiddat!!! ... more on Anjali's thought process and Nani involved ... Omigosh, looks like cv's are really stalking this place!!!
Aaru wanted Shyamu back ... looks like the start was made with that blank call ... girls, this is getting scary :))
Gargi wanted Arnav to go on a business trip and slyly get Khushi to accompany him ... Arnav went on a business trip to Agra, which got aborted, he asked Khushi to come with him ... she refused and then wished that she'd gone :)
More shiddats? And more discussions here ladies, or should I open a separate discussion post?
Can we have khushi wear the red saree Arnav bought for her on her birthday please....
ReplyDeleteArhi to talk to each other and sort out the issues including contract
Payal to blast Akash like she blasted Arnav post GH scene or pack up and leave rather than taking those underhand remarks from mami....
Can we have the next havan soon as everytime there is a havan in RM some secrets comes stumbling out of the cupboard infront of someone or the other.
Can we have NK and Arnav scene after Khushi leaves RM where NK stands as Arnav's support like he supported khushi during KN....
If VLR is coming back to RM, can NK please fill in Arnav completely about what happened during KN track...
A lovely Teej for Arhi, they really deserve some time together, for each other. Just want them to be at complete peace with each other on Teej, just feeling the beautiful relationship they share and feeling their love for each other....
Ain't demanding at all, am I?
Dia I also wanted a proper reason for Akash and specially Mami not confronting Guptas. It came late with Nani's declaration but yet it did so am happy.
ReplyDeleteShiddat for week -
ArHi mature convo.....gussa ya shant
ArHi car ride
ArHi evening chai over pakoras. ASR can demand time with biwi alone. Garima-Buaji will be more than happy unlike RMwasis
ArHi late night weird phone convo
More of NK-Akash ... NK "dude Akash tum kyoun Nannav ke gussa chra rahe ho, copy cat"
Nani reassuring payal that you are doing just fine. A mins convo boosting her confidence.
Anjali-Arnav convo. Let her have her answers ASR. What she does is her problem.
Cvs give a complete picture of Anjalis psych by the end of this week. Plain and simple even for lay viewers.
About Anjali I want within this weeks cvs to spell it out in words. Bold large font. DB is not pulling it off. Its us seeing things the way we want. Even though we interpret ArHi or Shyaam from our POV but intial reactions are usually same as BS SI and AM conveys them beautifully. NK is loveable as he is pleasant and clear character. Even AD and DP does clear justice to whatever they are provided. UN, JT and &AP stands out with their role.
DeleteThe problem is also with the behind the scene segments. If I hadn't heard the DB interview where she asked viewers to support her, or about the GH tweets, then I would have assumed that the way they are portraying Anjali, is exactly the way we are reading her ... that she is MEANT to be going a little grey and selfish.
DeleteJust think about it ... for most of the show, Anjali has been this sweet, clingy sister, but she has always been well-meaning. Ineffectual, but well-meaning. And one of her biggest dreams in life has always been that her brother get true love in his life, that he get a girl who can live up to that letter of their mother's ... the "gussa seh sake aur pyaar soot samet lauta sake". That has been Anjali's dream more than Arnav's. Even the "saansein ruk jayengi" dialogue was about - I hope you get the love of your life, the way that I have got mine. And she didn't say her breaths would stop if she lost her brother, they would stop if she lost her HUSBAND.
And now her dialogues are - "Jab se tumhe pyaar ho gaya hai, jab se tumne hamare sawalon ka jawab dena band kar diya hai, tab se sab kuch badal gaya hai."
So two problems here ... in the writing, or in the execution - or both.
Her saansein have not stopped because her husband is not around ... she barely thinks about her husband these days. Her saansein seem to be stopping because she's losing her brother's support.
There I do fault the writers more than the actress - they haven't shown her thinking too much about Shyam, except that one scene with Nani. It's been much more about her getting disturbed with Arnav's closeness to Khushi. Very dog in the manger attitude - you can be happy as long as I'm happy ... but the moment I'm sad, you lose your right to be happy too.
And there I repeat, Anjali cannot be called a mother figure to Arnav. A mother would never be sad to see her son happy, in fact a mother would hide her own sorrow to help keep her children strong.
So yes, Anjali is going grey ... and DB had better get used to that and to the reactions that will elicit.
Dia I agree that Anji saansein haven't stopped cause her hubby is not there but somehow i feel Anji is not possessive about Arnav it's only her inferiority complex isn't it? While Shyam was around to run around her day in and out she did not mind Arnav not running around her all the time. In fact during KN track she hardly ever missed her brother b'coz her hubby was around. I think Anji character is very much 'out of sight, out of mind' kind if superficial character. She did not throw many hysterics fir Arnav during KN track as he was out of sight and now isn't thinking much ant Shyam as he is out of sight. Hers is a very childish character where she can focus only on people who are in front of her... IMO if chotey also leaves RM along with khushi her first steps would be to bring shyam back purely b'coz she meeds someone particularly Arnav or Shyam to be available 24x7 for her...
DeleteIs she really going grey? Hasn't she always wanted one of the two of them to run around her... When you put 2 and 2 together ie out of sight out of mind, now that shyam's not there she wants Arnav to be there all the time. If Arnav does not relent then she will want to bring Shyam back.
Just picture this hypothetically, if Arnav asks khushi to leave or stops caring for her as much as he is doong now and gives all his time to his Di, will Di even think about Shyam or think about bringing him back... IMO if Arnav does just this Di will be very satisfied to have her chotey to herself and very quickly forget VLR....
Very well put Dia....
Deleteher dialogues, her mannerisms, her acting are not protraying any sympathy from us, then why is she expecting it......if she wants us to sympathise then please portray the character like that....
Abhaas is such a good example...his scene with Khushi on the road after his truth is out.....the irritation and helplessness when he was searching for the scorpion and Anji was doting on him....
even after the RM hall confrontation..when ASR threw him out, my god that expression he had for anji, though i hated him for insulting khushi, at that moment i felt bad for him
Abhaas's every expression was so good, that even though we, who have witnessed his bad side, wud get confused for a moment.....
ASR looks angry in the Khushi leaving RM video, so i guess he is angry with Khushi for leaving.....i want him to pack his bag and khushi to stop him from leaving as Di needs him here...i want her to say it...
I want ASR to make jalebis to woo Khushi...i dont know how they'll manage that, but please do....
Exactly Dia DB is the problem. Her character have been shown to not have consistencies from the beginning and her character have been narrated to her. How can she demand for sympathy after knowing what she is going to play. Bracing herself up for chappals is what would have been a smart move. It's her. Even GH din't rant about why aren't you people being sympathetic to the poor soul. He kept his rent to bro-sis relationship (I din't mind that ... I heard it from Gul when things where all jolly and reading previous interviews and articles even before they started the show they never really hid it). Even to his rent we have no idea the amount to provocation. Recently he was bashed to a level that he tweeted apology to fans for posting 300th celebration pic without BS. The point is ... script is not demanding sympathy nor anybody else. Why DB???
DeleteSometimes I feel this is done deliberately ... actors don't pull a media stunt to pressurize PH and go off free. At the fast pace they are taking this Anjali track (it can also be because DB cannot pull it off, seeing that she IS stuck with 3 expressions and body language. I'm crying, I'm fainting and I'm sulking. ), if target was audience sympathy, they wouldn't have rushed with her emotions. They know this track won't be long but enough to kill DB. She of course is making the task absolutely easy for them.
They are already at a point where Shyaam will re-enter. I remember reading one of Gul's where she said sometime we need to increase the meat of role due to audience connecting with the character in reference to Shyaam. Definitley Abbas portrayal of Shyaam did it. Similarly Anjalis character got stagnated at a point.
I feel this is deliberate by PH as I have yet to see an actor who messed in media and went unpunished. A very simple example, Deepika and Sonam had to apologize to Mr.&Mrs. Rishi for all the rubbish they said about their son in Koffee with Karan. They were also excluded from a show at the last moment which toured round the world.
When I think of DB I remember a dialogue from movie Nayak played by Anil Kapoor -
"Ine kya pata, yeh toh bas apna muh fadh kar aye hain"
Sama, even i had the same thought, that PH ke haatho me sab hai...they can kill the character, if they want to....but wud they really do that....
Deletei am assuming u meant they are trying to reduce her popularity as Anji because she held them at ransom, is it ?
Sama,
DeleteI can't comment about PH angle, really don't know how it works...but would like to think it would be stupid on the part of PH to cut its nose to spite its face...
I would imagine the PH is sticking to their storyline, Gul mentioned that Anjali was a damaged character....fragile in a sense, Arnav had roughened up....so i assume armtwisting, even if being given into in some sense, would still establish the character as envisaged by the makers....that of person whose reality is altered due to circumstances.
The debates could be more becos of
1)the anxiety of viewers who have not had a glimpse of some real happiness being shared by the leads
2)DB trying to garner some sympathy for her character, when its really not required
3) a certain cageyness on the part of writers on how to introduce changes in Anji's behav in the situation
PH thingy is just a thought but it is very much there at the back of my mind. Its kind of humiliating for people to think that they cannot even control a low profile actress, isn't it. So they bid their time. Just my thought.
DeleteI don't have any problem with Anjali the way she is behaving. Not at all, neither with the storyline. Her very thing about how can others even smile when I am devastated is apt with her character. Moreover its her Chote, for whom she meant the world. Though she never really cared what Chote went through when things are not as per her liking.
Like the fact that she always sided Khushi and asked Chote to behave ... a proper thing to do as an elder sister because he was being inhumanly rude.
but .... a big BUT and it makes perfect sense now though I could not digest it then..... she went against her Chote and his preferences .... scold him or over-ruled him INFRONT of a stranger who is also his employ and later her, so again basically his because SHE liked Khushi &her nuskes.
On a later thought not just Chote, she even debated very much with her ShyaamJi to whom she is a devotee.
I totally agree with you on this -
Delete2)DB trying to garner some sympathy for her character, when its really not required
this IS the most damaging factor.
Sympathy is something her character does not require now. It will when Shyaam comes back. She torn between bro and husband. Abbas will do the job. No worries.
Some more thoughts on Anjali, trying to get a complete character sketch ... leave DB out of the picture :)
DeleteAnjali loves Arnav - beyond doubt. She always wanted his happiness, she always wanted him to find true love, the way she thought she had found her own true love.
However, she knew her position in his life, and she felt it was unassailable. She was number one for him, and would always be. AT RB last year, she was delighted when Arnav said he would sacrifice his happiness for her, and Mami agreed. Any loving older sister would immediately say, no, I would never ask you to do that, I would instead sacrifice my happiness for you. Nope, Anjali is happy with the idea, it keeps her importance in Arnav's world intact, it PROVES Arnav loves her.
Insecurity here? She needs that proof?
She always thought she knew him inside out ... but she was not completely correct in this. When Khushi first started becoming an obsession with him, she had no clue about it, even though he mentioned Khushi more than once. See the GH episodes and after ... Anjali thinks he's talking about La, while he twice brings up Khushi's name ... when he rushes off to GH to rescue Khushi, the entire family thinks he has gone to La because of the fight with family.
However, when Arnav told her about Khushi beig stuck in the GH, Anjali did correctly read his feelings - she called GH to check on Khushi in his hearing, after Khushi's resignation drama, she correctly read Arnav's anger for the frustration it was that Khushi didn't give him a chance to explain.
However, once La moved in, Anjali forgot about Khushi, and assumed La was Arnav's real choice ... like one of you said, though, she never really accepted La the way she was, she tried to mould her into what she and Nani thought La should be.
Arnav never wanted that, he was happy with La the way she was, he told La she needn't change for him, but Di had to be happy.
We first saw Anjali's manipulation skills here - getting Khushi back to RM by using the contract that even Arnav didn't want to use, by twisting Arnav to accept Khushi at RM through emotional blackmail.
Why did Anjali try to change La at that time? She had accepted La for Arnav, but she wanted to make Nani happy? Or she herself felt La didn't fit the idea of a R bahu, so she set about changing her?
Again disregarding Arnav's wishes in the matter. And putting her own wishes first.
Anjali's unhappiness at the breaking of the La engagement ... she is non-confrontational, now she has got her wish, Arnav loves La, Nani has accepted her, peace in the house finally. And then Arnav goes and dumps La, and doesn't even tell her why. Neither does La. Anjali feels shut out, but Payash are happening, so she is busy, and she accepts Arnav's word fairly soon, without asking further questions. And she knows it's not a bitter break up - not one of Arnav's blind rages, when he doesn't know what he's doing.
contd...
DeleteShe does know that Arnav gets affected by Khushi, that he even listens to her, that she can use Khushi to manipulate him ... even if Khushi is scared to do so ... she doesn't mind exposing Khushi to Arnav's temper, to get what she wants out of Arnav.
She sees Arnav's feelings for Khushi and vice versa only when they virtually hit her on the head with a sledge hammer - the kiss in front of everyone. Once that opens her eyes, then she picks up all the hints she has been missing so far, and decides to push them together. She loves Khushi, Khushi loves her, Khushi is still very unsure and nervous around Arnav and asks Anjali for help in understanding him, dealing with him. Anjali is very much major domo in their lives.
The secret marriage dents Anjali's confidence slightly ... how come SHE was not told the reason. She tries to put her foot down ... Arnav tells her he will walk out with Khushi. She backtracks, and accepts the marriage - on her terms. SHE lays down the ground rules, and Nani lets her - SHE decides there will be Grihapravesh etc ...
Tension continues between Arhi, and Anjali is needed to sort out their problems, move Khushi's clothes, tell Arnav he cares for Khushi because he doesn't see it himself, tell Khushi she cares for Arnav ... Anjali is doing all the controlling. Arnav Khushi may have gotten married, but they still need her to set up their lives.
Again insecurity ... the need to be needed.
And of course, on the other side, she is happy, content, her perfect life in place, expecting her child, with a loving doting husband by her side ... she has it all, she can guide everyone else. She is the perfect one, everyone looks up to her.
For a woman who had so many complexes - handicap, marriage breaking, mother dying on wedding day, father maybe unfaithful(?) ... she's got her life back together, she now has a life everyone will envy.
And now things fall apart ... husband kicked out, brother doesn't need her any more ... all her old complexes back, she will be a burden, she is unlucky, no one loves her.
My question in all this is, why does she not make a single push to go to her husband? He was trying to pacify HER all along, plead to her ... is it because she does subconsciously know that Khushi was telling the truth? And that Shyam did go after Khushi? Thereby deepening her complex further, that he was with her only for her money, and she couldn't ignore that any more?
Hence her absolute lack of attempt in going after Shyam, and sticking to Arnav ... she knows she was never first in Shyam's life, but she can at least be first in Arnav's, because even after his marriage, she has remained the most important person for him, more than his wife.
Dia honestly after your post I can't help but feel bad for Anjali..your portrayal evokes that feeling of pity yet simultaneous sympathy...hmm wish the writing/directing/acting also did the same..
DeleteDon’t know if this is a new thought.
ReplyDeleteJust occurred to me.
Dia ended her edit on Thursday with, “potted plant- time to revive another memory”
From then I’ve been wondering. What memory with the potted plant?
At the beginning of yesterday’s episode, again, that potted plant puzzled me. It looked a little odd there.
And now Mads gives news that she is going back to GH.
Awww…. *tubelight* That was where the potted plant incident occurred. I even remember cribbing about the ‘potted plant RV’!
ASR said he is going to revive the happy memories. I thought that’d include only the pre-wedding ones. I’d forgotten, they had happy memories post wedding in GH.
Arnav and Khushi reach GH; she takes the potted plant out.-RV-.
He finds his way around the rangoli guided by her and she gives him a helping hand on the last step.
Here the Rangoli was replaced by the rose carpet. He did not intend this to play out as a memory, but the script writer did- hence the potted plant here.
And there it was on reaching GH, here she is leaving RM and on her way to GH.
P7 news:
Gives me hope.
By the look on ASR’s face, he has still not manao- fied her.
More wooing …….
So my shiddats are:
Recreation of GH scenes-
Golgoppas, ladder scene, RAIN HUG (or at least wet hug!) !
A song for Khushi's feeling based in where the story is poised now....
ReplyDeleteBechain hai meri nazar
Hai pyaar ka aisa asar
Naa chup raho itna kaho
Hum aapke, aapke hai kaun....
I have missed being on R&R today(sat) been busy.....have glanced at posts...interesting discussions.....the potted plant...making an appearance, thanks Opti, for that insight.....
ReplyDeleteIt is like an exam that one prepares for when one is watching IPK..itne discussions on syllabi...phir bhi kuch important reh jata hain.....
The significance of the accident on the way to Satsang...(satya ke sang) and its linkage to past has been brought by Doods in Redux..my ears always perk up at the mention of past like gargs..I am finding one thing believable in that post that the scene on friday was a recreation of a past scene.......and the linkage to Khushi in that accident...BUt how Khushi is responsible for Arnav's bura ateet is something i have not understood nor will i ever......
instead it seems Khushi has been paying for RM sins for a while now..
I also don't understand how Khushi can be responsible ... a linked past I can understand, a common accident that killed his father and her parents, something like that ... but Khushi was just 8/10/12 years old at the time, how can she be responsible? It has to be just a LINK ...
DeleteA thot here:
DeleteIf it really has any significance, sounds like this is the laying of a future track. Considering that mention of Kumars(which I interpret as Khushi's real parents) in 3 months,I wonder if it could mean the past will catch up with them around that time.
Hey Su, couldn't respond to one of ur posts that made very interesting reading.....(the elephant in the room one)
ReplyDeleteSu, its not about giving Anji a chance.....thats for the Cvs to work out..In my mind there is no confusion...If they wish to give Anji a positive/grey/black/delusional outlook in this track, they have to make inroads in their narrative.....As a viewer, willing to accept any turn they give this character, just an expectation that it must be logical(agreed within the confines of IPK logic)...thats all......
My bigger expectation is not linked to Anji,its linked to ARHI, i hope their story does not turn to being one of love that sacrifices and gets that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow becos everyone has seen how they have suffered. I hope for once, their love walks the talk...setting things right around rather than things getting set right after their bout of suffering....
Ignoring everything else,
DeleteThe one Q I’d like answered is this:
Di was married for three years, to a seemingly decent guy.
Why wouldn’t he let her go? ASR acted like he was the primary caretaker of Anjali, even though she was married (much before he knew about Shyam.)
The day the reality strikes her, he goes to her room, puts his head on her lap, holds her hand.
*Why isn’t anyone seeing incest here?*
Why didn’t the whole family come and stand around then to make it look normal?
And after that, when Anjali tells him to leave her alone, he says, “You can’t do this to me!”
Why is it that he is talking about “ME” at that moment when he should know that her hurt lies deeper and “HE” cannot replace her husband. Of course, for ASR, he should be the main person in Di’s life. Even after she was married, he never let Shyam take over that position. And Anjali ALLOWED it to be so.
I am not blaming either of them for clinging on to each other.
All I am saying is, if Anji seems to be clinging on to him at the darkest hour in her life, ASR was clinging on even when things were fine.
There is no incest here. Yes, there is possessiveness. Chhote was possessive about Di even after she got married. And now Anji is showing possessiveness, not because she is not the numero uno, but because he seems to be hiding things from her the day he fell in love.
I’d like to repeat this point. We should not comment on this sibling relationship based on our life experiences. These two have gone through so much together. They will be possessive about each other. All of us can accept it when the spouse takes over in our sibling’s life because:
1. Our parents were our primary caretakers till we got married. And they are still around.
2. We have our spouses.
Yes, I don’t cup my brother’s face. That is because I cling on to my mother/ hubby when I need support.
For ASR and Anjali, for a long time, they had only each other. They will always look out for each other. If ASR had got jilted by Khushi, he’d have found comfort in Di(May be he wouldn’t show it or cling on to her, but that is also because he is a guy.)
All of us know one thing for sure.
Anjali WILL come in between Chhote and Khushi.
Maybe not because of possessiveness, but because she believes ASR is blind in love and he threw Shyam out WITHOUT A FAIR TRIAL.
Or may be because she is possessive and wants her SIL kicked out.
That is not the point I am arguing.
Within *s is the question I ask.
Su - i dont think ASR did not let her go - in fact in the beginning it was quite clear that Anji was with her husband- only when he was out on tours did she come to the maika - and then the problems started coz she was there forever - remember her anger at TF for not being around - remember her wanting to go home but he always played everyone to keep her in RM - He always showed Anji was not fit enough to stay alone - basically he made sure that she was always perceived as fragile and he could not bare to see her hurt, so he swallowed his pride to keep his wife safe by staying with a family that he claimed was his own!
DeleteAs for cupping his face - that is an Anji thing - dont like it -but she has been doing that to everyone!!
Su, you have a valid point there ... but as Mona says, when the show started it seemed Anjali had just come to stay in her maika ... yes, Arnav did want her to stay on, and I remember a conversation when he asked Shyam to let her stay on as long as Shyam was on tour, as they would worry if she was alone. And then Shyam seemed a little annoyed, but then agreed ... he was already at GH then, I think.
DeleteBut yes, Arnav and Anjali both have been always possessive about each other, except that Arnav accepted Shyam as being the primary person in Anjali's life. I was going through some of the old posts, and in one when Shyam has just come home after Teej, I wrote that Arnav is an outsider in his own home ... the rest of the family is happy and enjoying with damaadji, while he stays and watches from the outside.
So I don't think Arnav was as possessive about Anjali as she is about him. Her happiness was most important to him, but not in a clingy way, not that she had to be around him 24/7 ... as long as she was happy, that was all he wanted.
I remember that post.....Dia....where u wrote about Arnav leaning on that pillar in his home and watching that scene...hain na?
DeleteArnav was never shown possessive ever, concerned yes......
Anji has been shown protective,concerned,loving, touchy (i don't , and a person who cannot accept anything wrong in her world....mangalsutra incident.
Until the revelation incident, Anji was also happy with Arnav-Khushi relationship; yes, it was also apparent, she is very particular about how things should be in her world, has adjustment issues to bad omens etc....but i also remember her as a person who made attempts to bring peace in her household during the Arnav-nani war....or the mami-akash phase......but een then, it was not a real attempt to face the issue, her style has always been avoid confrontation, buy peace in some form....in the past it was lets all forget matters that are causing strife, lets buy peace, sweep it under the carpet..
In many ways, she is showing similar tendencies.....in that sense i see where the CVs are moving.....she will want to keep her flock together by some means...in her flock, Khushi is understandably not present....fair enuf too...
Touchy...by that not i don't mean touchy-feely...LOL..ate some words
DeleteYep, Rekha, that one ... entire family in the kitchen, I think, Shyam making jalebis, and Arnav watching from the outside.
DeleteI agree with you about Anjali's character sketch - peace at any cost, hates confrontations and fights, cannot handle them, and escapes the situation by crying rather than actually attempting to do anything positive or active. In the Payash matter, she kept encouraging Akash, but when Mami made any remarks, she stopped Akash from fighting back or fighting for his love ... it took Arnav and Khushi to do anything about it.
So she has always been a weak character, unable to handle any problems, and going to pieces when her world falls apart is very true to that character. So is the plea to Arnav to restore her world ... almost as though if Shyam is loving on the surface, that's enough for her, she doesn't want to dig deep below the surface for fear of what she might see. And that would explain her reactions to every slip Shyam made ... she saw, but turned a blind eye.
Rekhs yes Anji was shown loving caring person and although she tried to bring prace during La track, she never faced the issue head on she always ran away from the real issue, brushed it under the carpet. Not just during La track but always. She seems to glace over things.... Be it La track, payash confession i mean she teased Akash about payal encouraged him but did nothing to help him, never stood up said a word to mami for her remarks to Payal and Khushi even before the shyam revealation....
DeleteI think even now as long as she can have Arnav to herself rest wouldn't matter to her... Although she made a big thing about Arnav lying to her about the agra meeting, the conversation that followed about how Arnav has changed since his marriage IMO implied hiw Arnav's world does not revolve around her any longer. How khushi has become more important to him...
Dia hugsssss.... this is spooky we wrote nearly the same things about Anji at almost same time... No wonder we can't sympathise with her!!!!
DeleteUJ *rofl* ... spooky ... we even brought in the same example! Soul sisters!!! *hugs*
DeleteDia,
Delete'Arnav is an outsider in his own home ... the rest of the family is happy and enjoying with damaadji, while he stays and watches from the outside.'
I've not watched this episode. Could it have been that he was silently enjoying the happiness that Shyam had brought home and to his Di.
Anjali showed the same happiness when she took him to the mirror and showed him that he cared for Khushi the way he cared for his di. And there was no jealousy there.She was only happy that he had bestowed the same honour on Khushi.
'as though if Shyam is loving on the surface, that's enough for her, she doesn't want to dig deep below the surface for fear of what she might see.': She is willing to dig now, isn't she?
She asked nani, "who is telling the truth, my husband or my sister- in-law?"
To me, it looks like she is willing to believe so long as someone gives her proof.
Rekha,
'her style has always been avoid confrontation, buy peace in some form....in the past it was lets all forget matters that are causing strife, lets buy peace, sweep it under the carpet..'
I feel you made a good point here. This is something I missed in Anjali's character, b'coz I've not watched early on. But there was also an Anjali who fought with Chhote for Khushi even when she was an outsider. She had no business to tell him that he is being unfair to Khushi, a total stranger to her.(Of course, it can be argued that she had nothing to lose there) May be, that is why I feel Anjali will not be shallow if the truth is proven to her.
On possessiveness: I was trying to make only one point here. That di is as important to Chhote as Chhote is to Di.
Khushi is his soulmate. There is no question of choosing Khushi over Di. She is bonded to him for life now. If he has to choose, he will choose Khushi. And personally, I feel(I know none of you think of Anji will act this way), Anjali will accept happiness in Chhote's life.But when VLR comes that equation will change.
1. Will Arhi leave di at his disposal?
2. Will Arnav be able to convince di that Shyam is a creep?
Wanted to add:
Delete3. Will Shyam convince Anjali that Khushi is a gold digger?( What is he coming back for?)
lovely discussion gals....
Deleteone more point i was wondering about is all the 3 characters age when they faced the life changing issues...
how much age affects when we are faced with life changing situations
When the Malliks died, Arnav was 15 i guess and Anjali was atleast 18, since they show her wedding in the fb's and Khushi was 8...so Anjali was the eldest..and supposedly the mature person....so is it possible that her mind got more damaged then ASR's.....also though they were thrown out of sheesh mahal...they were taken in by the Raizada's and all of them, even Mami loves them like their own....so even on this account, you can't call them deprived of elderly love...atleast for Anjali....
Was she a pampered doll in her parents house and hence cudnt handle the pressure of being responsible for her little brother..........Did they have a bad patch between their being kicked out and Nani taking them in....why do they hate their father......If Anjali was pampered then most probably both parents pampered her, if she has seen some turmoil in their parents life, then she's not that sheltered from the pains of life...
Su,
DeleteI agree Anji will not be shallow when truth is proved to her but it will have to a time, when she is ready for the truth, not before......
she has swept a few truths already under the carpet, agreed the situation is making her so....which is why i say that she will take time to accept it....it would probably be something she sees/hears for herself...not thru a third person....
Su,
DeleteImportant is one thing, possessive is a different thing. Anjali was not so possessive about Arnav as long as she had Shyam, she was happy to hand over charge of Arnav's medicines etc to Khushi, she was happy that Khushi would look after him. But even then, it seems she was happy as long as she was doing the handing over, i.e again, she was the one in control, the deciding factor.
This part is a little iffy, because all along, Anjali never had any doubt about her place and her importance in Arnav's life, because she had never really been in conflict with Khushi over it, except for immediately after the wedding when she was equally angry with both of them. I forget who she melted with first, but I think it was Arnav. She finally forgave Khushi only at Holi. And Khushi always tried to win Anjali over, even while fighting all the time with Arnav, Anjali was needed to show Khushi and Arnav their feelings, so Anjali was still the person they needed. She came higher on the priority list for both Khushi and Arnav.
The other side of course is that till then Khushi never felt truly Arnav's wife, so she never took over all those duties herself. The first time Khushi worried about Arnav's medicines was the night he left for London. But after he came back, Khushi took over those duties herself, the night before he had hugged her after the confrontation where he had taken her side, so she was confident about her place.
Arnav on the other hand was never shown to be possessive about Anjali. His insecurity only came out when she was angry, stopped speaking to him or left RM. It wasn't about his place in her life, it was 'don't leave me' ... but even her anger with him about his marriage, didn't make him spill the beans. And he never resented Shyam being more important for her ... not to my memory.
Geetu, my reading of Anjali and her complexes - yes she was born into a good family, pampered a lot ... but she is handicapped, and her marriage broke on the wedding day, probably at the pandal - from the fb's. Her mother died under a cloud ... After all this, she had a tough time getting married again ... the tragedy happened ten years ago, and she has been married to Shyam for just three years.
DeleteFor a girl like her, who has no other job or goal in life than marriage, this would be enough to give her a huge complex as it is ... her handicap itself would be enough to make her feel inadequate, her wedding breaking would add to it, her mother's death on the day even more so - people would say things like 'she is unlucky for her own mother' etc. And the way the two characters have been shown, it seems that it was Arnav who grew up overnight to take care of her, not that she, the elder sister, grew up to become a mother.
Most insecure people need to be needed - that is their strongest need. Khushi has that need too, because she is an orphan and she has always felt insecure in some corner of her heart ... hence she completely subjugates her own desires and pain, to keep others happy, to do things for them, so that they want to have her around.
Anjali's need has surfaced now ... but it was actually always there, expressed in a different way, the way she always kept clinging to Shyam, telling him she was completely dependent on him, she was lucky to have him ... feeding his ego all the time - she knew that she was the richer of the two, and it would be easy for the world to think he married a lame girl just for her money, so she tried to make him feel that she knew that was NOT the reason. Make him feel it? or convince herself that he had married her because he loved her?
And again, that is why the sudden insecurity about the brother makes less sense. If anything, the insecurity should be about Khushi, that this young beautiful able-bodied girl has taken over her husband and her brother both. And that is also why I think it makes much more sense if Anjali has been unconsciously manipulating her way to reach this point all along ... to blame Khushi. But in that case, the execution sucks!
Forgot to add ... the first night Khushi showed concern for Arnav's medicines was the night he left for London. And that night when she broke down in Anjali's lap, Anjali said ... if he didn't stop for me, do you think he would stop for anyone else?
DeleteSo Anjali was perfectly happy with Arnav's love for Khushi, because till then it had not overtaken his love for her. Anjali knew Arnav's plan for London, Khushi didn't. Anjali knew Arnav had a separate travel pack of medicines, Khushi didn't. Anjali was still number one in Arnav's life, over his wife. The problems happened because she lost her position in both men's life on the same day, to the same woman. Double whammy.
Exactly, we wondered about that remark then too.....but doesn't it sound specially ominous and imagine when it is being said to a wife....A sister telling a wife.....these aspects have always been there, Dia.
Deletei for one did not want an Arhi separation - could never understand how moving out would solve anything - don't get me wrong, when ODB was rude to her, she should have walked out with her head held high and all that but now, now when her husband knows all and is trying to make all right, why a separation? was she guilty, was she in the wrong, then why another punishment for her? - so no i did not like the idea at all - it would have been ok if she still acted miffed with ODB to keep the distance - but they had to be under the same roof. If Buaji's illness is the reason for the separation, then i am happy.
ReplyDelete-So as far as Arhi is concerned - only shiddat - loads of Arhi moments and with dialogues too :D
-Bro bonding please
-Blast from the past please (or atleast some ref)
- Akash to get a blasting from ODB!
Mona,
DeleteWith you on this one. Moving out solving issues did not appeal t me too. It seemes like Khushi running away from issues. But yes if the story demands a temporary separation and he reason is going to be baui or buaji's illness then fine.
Perhaps it is time to bring the Guptas upto speed on what is happening at RM before Arnav can tell everyone about the truth of his marriage with Khushi?
Plus without Khushi I thik the primary onus of sorting matters at RM will fall on Arnav as he will be more clued in to happenings?
Blast from the past nahi poori ki poori baad aayegi I think.
And oh yeah Akash is going to get a dressing down like Preeto's husband did from Arnav.
Sandy Mona agree that moving out seems like running away but i have been thinking about khushi moving out and it appeals for the time being. Arnav and khushi need some time out. At the moment arnav is only thinking about wooing her back and thinks she is angry about not wishing HBD. Arnav is not thinking of the real reason, he doesn't have the time to think about the real reason as he is using his time to placate Di and woo Khushi.
DeleteIf khushi leaves he will get the much needed time to think not just about the contract but also about what he has done with her post marriage...
It will also give khushi a break from RM vaasis and solitute to think what she really wants, give her time to think about corxistence of rajkumar and shaitaan....
The judaai during KN track made him say ILU and this judaai will perhaps make him realise khushi's importance in his life make him realise that perhaps khushi is the only most important person in his life...
And as you say it will help to increase Gupta's knowledge about the current affairs at RM.
UJ,
DeleteJudaai is fine. And yes it will give Arnav more focus on the relationships.
My point is more about why judaai and hence if it is because someone at home is unwell fine. Somehow Khushi citing the contract and leaving after the whole "I wont mind agar tum mujhe apan pati maan lo" and all other stuff they have shared, is to me unlike the Khushi I know - a person who stays and fights
Unless they show her sacrificing for Arnav's sake but here again I want Arnav to stop her and not let her go.
But if she is at Guptas Arnav is going to keep going to meet her and make no bones about it so the situation at RM is just going to keep escalating to a point of combustion.
Sandy that's the priblem isn't it? Won't mind agar tum mujhe apna pati maan logi... For the rest of this life or just for the period of the contract???? Arnav has not clarified that to khushi yet. The poor girl is probably thinking pati maan lo till the end of the contract... Hence i don't really mind... I hope A and K sort out the confusion about the contract soon.
DeleteArnav never made bones about having a living in with La why should or wiuld he do that about meeting his legally wedded wife. If things boil to the point of steaming that will lead to another confrontation isn't it? Everytime Arnav has opened his mouth whether with khushi to say marry me, you are impotant to me or to nani has been followed by a confrontation.... Aur considering the number of skeletons in the closet ek aur dhamaka toe banta hai....
UJ - i get your point but i think we are being unfair to ODB if we think he is only trying to win back ODG coz of not wishing her a HBday - He talked of the Contract and made his promise before the Bday
DeleteAlso thought of something else while reading your post - Yes our dear boy has not specified 'pati for contract period or pati for life' BUT ODB for all his rudeness and cruelty was never a cheat -
1)even he wanted a live in with La - he was honest about it - he never said - this will lead to a a wedding - Also 'I love La so i want to stay with her' was never communicated, he always said - when two people want to be together..
2) he was hurt and angry with ODG and he forced her to say yes - but he married her - i mean in a mandir, in front of DM, with sindoor and all - When he said we shall act as H&W for 6 months, he could also have said, here take this sindor and consider this done
To cut a long story short - He honestly told her that he loved her - all the moments since the KN and specially after the return are pretty clear - he loves her and wants her to know it too - so there is no ambiguity about the "mrs ASR for life bit" -
Having said that i am pretty sure the CV have not had ODB say it out loud is coz they have to keep the point open for ODB&G to use in case of a fight :D
Mona i abs agree that OBD is very very honest. He never made false promises to La or ODG. And yes agree he made that promise the other day while she was gazing at stars after bringing up the contract but ODB has not really realised the full extent of the hurt caused post marriage.
DeleteI am talking about contract because as viewers we know what ODB is thinking and he wants to null and void contract have her as his wife and partner for the rest of the life but ODG does not know this yet. Everytime ODG starts melting and reciprocating he breaks her heart how is she to know it wont happen this time. That's the reason she needs his words and hence unless and until he spells this out to her I don't have a problem with her throwing the contract in his face....
I wanted Khushi to leave RM because she has had enough of cold shouldering and gallis by the RM vaasis. Her hubby can never romance her freely without crybaby making an appearance and playing spoil sport. She has no grouse with her hubby (although she can throw up a furore over the six-month bond so that he comes up with a more permanent bond for them). Arnav can keep visiting Khushi at GH. Di need not be any wiser. After all he does keep late hours at work. He does not have to lie to her. He just needn't tell her the truth. If she demands, he should tell her not only the present truth but everything since Payash's wedding and let her deal with it. Enough of sympathies for this woman who is so absorbed in her own world she cannot see the rest.
DeleteKhushi staying on and fighting Anj is not advisable at the point.
Opti
I am actually happy with the physical judaai coming now ... at the point when both have more or less accepted to each other that they are married for life. Yes, ODB does need to put it into words for ODG ... there have been too many times when he has turned around and hurt her every time she melted ... but after the last hug, only those words about 'forever' remain to be said ... he has said almost everything else - I don't mind being your husband, you have agreed that I'm your husband ... just specify the time period involved and we're all done. I agree with UJ, he HAS TO say the words.
DeleteBut like I said quite some time back, the family situation cannot be settled, and Arhi can never have a normal happy married life, till Anjali comes to know the entire truth. Till then, either Khushi stays at RM, and stays out of sight, and keeps getting insulted, or she moves to GH, she smiles and is happy, and Arnav can visit her there and romance her to his heart's content, because the Gupats actually approve ... unlike the R's, who think he's committing a sin every time he smiles at his wife. So it will build up Khushi's confidence in his feelings also, plus gives him some time to deal with his crybaby sister, and realise the depth of her problems, which he does need to do as well.
Now his equation with Khushi is settled, he can visit her freely, so his mind should be more free to think about his sister now, which he really hasn't been doing so far.
Like I said, for him throwing Shyam out was the closure of a chapter, but it opened two more chapters for him - - dealing with his treatment of Khushi and making up for it - Started, Work In Progress ... and long may that progress continue :)))
and dealing with the fallout on Anjali - which, because of dealing with Khushi, had actually been ignored.
And Khushi at RM, is too unhappy with the constant insults and has to stay quiet, but she can be more help to him from GH, if they actually start TALKING and discussing how to deal with Anjali ... SHIDDAT! ...
I want to see Khushi helping to show him how to tackle Di, help her to move on ... Khushi tried, it backfired on her because she was the wrong person to give that advice, but the advice is the correct one, and someone has to tell Anjali the truth and give her the push to pull herself together.
And since Sanaya is on leave till Tuesday, she could have canned at least some solo phone call scenes :)))
While Khushi staying on and fighting Anji is not possible/advisable....i hope it does not de-generate into a one soapy drama where the insults, sufferings are heaped and then one fine day...everyday agrees "bahut ho gaya". I hope the leads get to play out their love story becos while the other relationship is very central, the love story also has a voice, a beautiful voice at that
DeleteHere the voice is not about the chemistry rather the quintessence of this love tale is how a difficult relationship will find a way to be together becos staying apart is just not an option....Sansein ruk jayegi and so ironically mentioned by Di herself, well she will recognise that one day but i hope the leads also recognise it too...
Opti,
ReplyDeleteThanks for repasting ur earlier thought. I am going to go with rice being Anjali and Khushi being the daal. After all Khushi's favourite colour is yellow. Besides it is Khushi who has been an influencing factor in both Anjali and Arnsv's lives. Like you said daal goes with both roti and rice.
Besides Anjali is right now the raw one. The one who has been through life but with huge blinkers. She needs to be boiled and cooked for her to realize life's true flavours.
Opti,
DeleteOne more things. When I saw the 1 change to 1/2 the main thought in mind was dichotomy or doghlapan.(I recall Sama asked me)
You see the nature of relationships - how they are and what you perceived them to be.
Also the duplicity of people; 2 faces of a coin. SOmthing to your face and quite another behind your back
ok i think we have all lost it completely - we now think of ODB&G adn Rice and Dal in the same breath!!!!
DeleteHawww Sandy!! Sorry yaar ... me and my gold fish memory.
DeleteHey everyone*hugs*
ReplyDeleteHaving a busy weekend, but catching up everything over phone. Great discussion everyone:)
SAMAAAAAAAAAAAAA: This one is for you if you have ever said Settle down class as in Sit down class.
Daughter and I are studying Social studies, I give her a worksheet.
And I get it back with Definition of Nomads:
People who do not sit and keep moving around:)
ROFL ROFL, I swear I burst out laughing and thought of you, I wondered how many such funny and not so funny answers you must have come across:)
Shiddats:
Khushi will wear that saree on Teej only to Manao him.
(I am guessing He was not in favor of her leaving and she convinced him somehow cos of Buaji or something.)
I want Both of them to TERRIBLY miss each other. Him in their bedroom with her memories and Her in her bedroom in GH with his memories. (Dunno if that will happen cos Sanaya is on leave)
Once she comes back,
I WANT HIM to start the Wooing Track with the help of Garima and Buaji........Remember who we discussed that.
So he makes a point to visit her at GH before heading to RM.
And one such time I want them to have an argument and ASR storms off.
Next day is Teej, So he is waiting for her either at that Teej Temple or the one where they got married and she comes up in that saree.
They technically get married again at that temple. They come back to GH, get her stuff (Official Bidaai) and head to RM (Official Grihapravesh).
And chances are they will find Shyam alrealdy in there or the next morning.
*Hugs everyone*
Shwethu,
DeleteMaybe she find you nomadic :P
Yaar I am battling slanting lines. Never realized that someone who loves doodling all over would have such resisteance to slanting lines!
Adding my shiddat to all ur wishes. And when she is at GH, please one scene where he visits and they steal sometime on the back porch. Maybe see a shooting star together?
Oh and one more - If she wears the saree he got her - can she please wear those red bangles too that he got her.
DeleteAnd this time she takes teh initiative to show him when giving him prasad.
aaawwww hugs to BG Jr. She got the gist right. Good girl!
DeleteIn my teachers room we have a *Kolaveri Alert* when we come across these definations.
A literature Q: Why couldn't he take both the paths?
A: Obviously! He is one, how can he split into two.
Another one that got my MIG cap on -
"Teacher he turned me wet"
Shiddat to all you said about Teej.
Sandy you think they still got the bangles. They seem to have lost Ma ke kangans.
Shwetha- loved you shiddats + the bangles, but like Sama am not sure they still have those (if they show the wrong one, be it in number, shape, size or colour, we shall catch the blooper - So i think they will avoid that :D) - so if there can be some reference to 'Ma key Kangan' and the letter - after all ODG does not know they are ma key kangan
DeleteAnd please starry nights + tea + missing each other..
Shweths Sandy love your Teej sequence. Hope it plays out like that. Just want to add that I want ASR to keep vrat on Teej. I know i know he diabetic but he used to having only meds by now what with KN and KKG keeping him hungry all day.... I want ASR to break her fast and then say Khushi mujhe paani nahi pilaogi, mera vrat nahi thodogi? And khushi to go all hayeee.... You fasted for me? And then get a tab bit angry with concern ki aap kyun din bhar bhukhe rahe? Aapki sugar low ho gai toe. Aapko apna dhyaan rakhna chahiye.... Blah blah blah.... I know it won't happen but phir bhi the die hard romantic in me just wants ASR to keep vrat and KKGSR to break his vrat.... SP nayi soch wife to break hubby's vrat!!!
DeleteMona they might get the sequence of the bangles or the numbers wrong and we might catch the blooper but when have the CVs cared for the bloopers abd don't you think it would play out really beautifully I mean from scene POV and ODB-G relation POV for ODG to wear the bangles although the seq or number might be wrong. If they get it right then toe it'll be icing on the cake....
Shwethu, *rofl* at your nomads!
DeleteAnd adding full Shiddat force to your shiddats ... Khushi can be shown in GH alone with her memories ... Sanaya would have canned some solo shots before going for sure. I want lots of Arnav missing her like crazy and dying to be with her, yet unable to go because of his Delusional Di ... can we have him set up the stars to remind HIMSELF of her? And put up that picture he broke ... or the bangle one NK took ... get the room ready for her return, and tell himself he will get her back and this time for good.
Shiddat to the Teej one ... he breaks her fast and marries her in the temple, and tells her, this time is for keeps, and I will bring you home to the welcome you deserve, very soon.
If the GH visit is just for Sanaya's leave, maybe Khushi will go back after Teej, after he has reassured her the marriage is for ever.
If it is part of the story, it will be longer, and Shyam's re-entry will happen first.
UJ,
DeleteI think Arnav will fast. His last mention to NK on love isstory was how Khushi made him faint by keeping him hungry all day.
Ladies,
I am now reconciled to physical judaai after all this talk of phone convos. True Khushi staying on would have been insulting. I am also totally with you on Arnav spelling it ou for Khushi that they are together for ever. I think he will if you go by the ME promo. He said humeshaa there.
And tru her not being around will get Arnav to focus on his family and hopefully start setting straight people one by one. I have a feeling Teej happens and he brings home his new bride only to realize Anjali has been speaking to Shyam and maybe brought him home with Mami and Akash's blessings.
And somewhere I have felt that Shyam needs to see Arnav and Khushi happy together for him to feel the pinch real bad to try and shatter the marriage and bring out the forced wedding truth, maybe by chuglifying to Payal. This time he will want to hurt Khushi by shattering her happiness and also hurt ASR for the slap and insult he suffered.
I know all of you are very particular that Khushi should not be in the same house as VLR but with Arnav around and Snake trying to get back in his wife's good books he will steer clear of Khushi.
This one came out in March. I saw it only today.
ReplyDeleteSorry if I am just repeating it. (Pretty sure I must be!)
http://www.tellytadka.net/behind-the-scene-byte/hitesh-kewalya-writer-iss-pyaar-ko/
This guy could be the reason I started watching IPKKND regularly.
B’coz what attracted me was: “WHO writes dialogues like this?”- Mami’s dialogues.
I absolutely love this guy.
He just rrrrrooockkkkks!
“Darti hain par karti hain”: Love you, KKG.
(The second half is on humse hain life. But do watch what he has to say at the end.
He makes a cute analogy about television and your father returning home from work. Liked it!)
Can we have ODB&G sharing a quiet evening under the stars before she leaves............he can start wooing her in earnest once she is at GH.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Payal needs to give a "whack" to her hubby dearest - koi bimari hai RM mai to treat your wife in a such a manner?
Loved the OS you wrote Dia - shiddat to having it realised (even some part of it)!
Aki
I am only asking, no hoping for one thing. That they finally get that kiss. Is it too much to ask, maybe with Khushi and Arnav it probably is.
ReplyDeleteLin
So the latest spoilers state the Khushi is leaving RM because the contract period is over but she lies to Arnav. Now this is really interesting. Now he will get her to say yes to the marriage not because she has no choice but she really wants to. Hopefully he does major wooing in GH away from crybaby's eyes. They should have another marriage, not for the sake of their siblings but for their own sakes. I want them to take the seven vows of marriage in their own unique way.
ReplyDeleteNow Anji meets Shyam secretly, Arnav needn't feel guilty meeting Khushi secretly. Whatg is good for the goose should also be good for the gander.
Opti
Opti...the problem with Anji is she doesnt follow the goose and gander theory......atleast not at the moment...heheheh
DeleteOpti,
Delete"They should have another marriage, not for the sake of their siblings but for their own sakes. I want them to take the seven vows of marriage in their own unique way."
I have a good feeling about this happening.
Can the contract be over? Just 2 days back, they said 2 months!Things can't move so fast, even in Arhiland!
DeleteSu when was the 2 months to contract finishing mentioned? I don't recall this bring said in any of the Epis....
DeleteActually only Barun said it in an offscreen segment. Time period has not been mentioned on the show.
Deleteyes it was offscreen ... The very segment which showed khushis age to be 25 .... also Barun and Sanaya's take on "why K is leaving?". Barun gave reason as "acha he permanently janese temporarily jaiye" Sanaya said "gas ki problem ke baad wapas ajaongi" I don't remember the exact words.... None of them said she isn't leaving.
DeleteMishti's spoiler might have few grammatical mistakes ... like K will bring up the end of contract ... she will leave jhoot bolke as she will have to at the end of contract.
Last spoiler she said soon Shyaam will spill the reason why he married Anjali and also this will bring back their past.
Dur dur thak dikhai nahi deraha.
Dia Sama yup remember that SBS/SBB.... So this was only mentioned off screen so onscreen CVs can play around with timelines as they please i guess.... No winder Nani asked Khushi to stay away from Anji 'kuch samay' rather than specifying any kind of timelines...
DeleteDia jhappis and hugsss.... The OS you wrote finally managed to read it after a day full of pooja and friends and food.... The OS left me in arhi dreamland. It was a pure pleasure to read it and I will be reading it a few more times. How I wish it play out the way you wrote it. It would make sense for everyone in RM but ofc CVs want to give is more drama.... and so they prefer not sorting Arhi and Di out just yet!!!!
Opti you have spelt out the similarities and differences in last year's and this episode so beautifully.... Superb. The only other thing I want to add is that like Payal found courage and voice to blast ASR after GH epi last year, she has started to find her voice again. I so hope you gives it back to Akash and Mami in one of the coming days and pack off from RM. just like bubaliya had cut her picture from the rest of the family.
Oh just realised during babbly track, NK was away touring, ASR and khushi were at GH and Payal well bubbly cut her picture from the rest of the family. Isn't it reminiscent of whats happening might happen. We have not had any scenes between NK and mami or NK and Akash so basically mami and akash are neglecting what info NK has to offer, khushi will soon leave RM and ASR might physically leave RM or not is questionnable but with khushi gine from RM he will be there only half heartedly so consider nearly not there. Hope payal will leave soon even if she doesn't leave she hardly a part of the family other than in name...
Sandy kudos for drawing in the similarities between holi seq and whats happening now. So khushi pulls ramanchi first then lies may be about babuji or buaji's ill health and leaves. Then came the arnav's love fir K in his intoxicated state.... I have a feeling when VLR breaks the news of forced marriage and A forced K, anji will think A was so madly in love with K then that he forced her and hence believe that Arnav is abs blinded by K live and can't see the her POV....
More later. Have to dash.
Hey Dia,
ReplyDeleteloved your OS.....wish the cv's would follow it....if not now maybe in future.....
Am i missing something? What OS? Is it on yesterday's post? Dia you write OS'? Wow!!!! I'm in awe...
DeleteUJ, I write when I hate the way things are going and am frustrated with the story, or when I think of scenes I'd like to see. This OS was the first ... bringing together many of our discussions here :)))
Deletehttp://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3107560
Dia lovely OS. Have read it a few times now. Send it to the CVs hopefully they will see a nayi soch and make the leads strong enough rather than just pandering to Di's king sized weaknesses.... I abs loved the dining table scene. I would love love love to see that so the 'all is honky dory' in my world ka pardha is lifted from Di's eyes and the poolside one I would like for Arhi coz they truly deserve that happiness and those blissful moments.... Kudos to you....
DeleteShwethu....
ReplyDeleteNomads *rofl*...
kya baat hain....
actually becos of ARHI,us definition se toh hum sab bhi nomads hi hain....am also not able to sit around for a while....itching to get ARHI going.....
Anji lying to Chote is not surprising.....she is avoiding confrontation as is her wont.....her expecting truth from Chote is something else....its about how Chote who has never done this in the past can do it now....
Rekha,
DeleteAnji lying to chote I was expecting - she will say tit for tat. U lied to me for spending time with your wife. I lied to you about spedning time with my spouse.
Plus have you noticed, Anjali who always though non-confrontational considered Mami to be over exaggeraing, these days is very quick to pick up Mami's line of thot wrt Khushi.
One thing I forund weird and which sets the tine for Anjali's attitude is her first mentioning his marriage and then about him having stopped answering her qustion whereas in reality it was the other way round. He stopped answering her questions and then got married. She is seeing only what she wants to see now.
DeleteYep....
DeleteIn moments of strife, sometimes every thot that supports our line of thinking is like a lifeline....If Anji has a strong feeling that Khushi is the perpetrator, Mami's words will be work as a balm...
And in a Anji continuing to bide time is well within graph....she will outright not accuse, innuendos on "what is the cause of change" will suffice for now....in a way perhaps she doesn't want to hear from Arnav that truth she would like to escape that Khushi matters a great deal to Arnav.....strangely like Arnav in the marriage track....wanting to escape hearing what VLR meant to Khushi
It's human nature, though, isn't it? We all do see what we want to see ... take me, I've been wanting Anjali to go grey, so I pick up all the signs which point me towards that ... there are plenty of signs that she is merely insecure and very weak, but to prove my argument I can very conveniently ignore those.
DeleteSimilarly, Anjali deep down knows she liked Khushi all through, she felt Khushi was the right person for Arnav, she wanted them to get married, she even held up a mirror to Arnav herself to show him his feelings ...
but right now, she doesn't want to remember all that ... she doesn't remember that he never told her the reason he broke his engagement to La, that he was not the one to tell her about La in the first place, that he was never the one to share his feelings with her, she always had to prod and coax them out of him ... and even then, sometimes he told her, sometimes he didn't ...
Now all she sees is what she wants to see ... she wants to paint Khushi black, because Khushi is the cause of her perfect world being shattered. The words she said to Arnav the first day after he stopped her abortion are probably the closest reflection of her true feelings ... that she's been left alone, abandoned by her husband, her child will not know its father, people will shun her, and it's all because of a 'buri nazar' namely Khushi.
She's getting more and more obvious in her accusations now, that's all.
And unfortunately she believed Arnav's words, and Mami's ... that Arnav will do anything for Anjali, even sacrifice his own happiness ... and it seems to her that Arnav is not ready to do that. And in her twisted depressed delusional state, she really believes that if he did, things would go back to what they were.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it about the episode on July 20th but there is an uncanny similarity as well as a contrast between the episode telecast this year and the one telecast last year (July 20 2011).
ReplyDeleteJuly 20, 2011- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNb3ajmw80
Arnav is pruning his plant while recollecting Khushi's tirade just minutes ago. He hears her words echoing that she holds her name 'Khushi Kumari Gupta' to be more valuable than his contract. In her eyes, he has lost but he will not accept his fault. She tells him that she is well not because of him but inspite of him. She does not wish to have any relationship with a man who deliberately puts her life at risk. She tells him that she will break the contract and asks him to do whatever he wants to do.She shoves the contract paper in his hand and tells him that she cares two hoots for his job. One can see Arnav's frustration build on as he keep recollecting those words which are hurtful but true and he loses his temper and picking up the pot, with the plant he was so tenderly taking care of only minutes before, he throws it down and breaks it and Anjali comes in to witness it. Ironically Anjali asks him if his anger is because of Khushi daring to question him or because she did not let him give his explanation.
Opti
(Cotd)
Part 2
ReplyDeleteCut to the episode on July 20, 2012 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3apzifN5HzY
This time we see a frightened Khushi picking up a pot to ward off the unseen dangers. As Arnav is the one who nurtures those plants, she was unconsciously seeking his support by holding on to the plant. She used that plant to open the door of their bedroom (which had shut automatically because of the strong winds).
Breaking off from my scene narration to point out the symbolism in this scene. Their bedroom signifies their marital life. Both Khushi and Arnav have been unable to enjoy their marital life (in other words have been shut out from it) by the forces of destiny (the brewing storm in the form of Creepo Shyam and Weepy Anj). Khushi pries open that door with the help of the pot (which symbolises Arnav's care). This means together they will face the tough forces against them and find their own happiness.
Coming back to the narration bit, Khushi leaves the confines of their bedroom and comes into the hall, muttering her prayers to DM but also holding on to the pot tightly. She sees a shadow, gets more nervous and screams out who is there. A lightning falls on the face of the man in darkness and she sees it is her very own Arnavji. She drops the pot (who wants a symbol when the real man is around) and rushes into his waiting arms.
Now see the contrast. A year ago, Arnav had picked up the pot to throw it down in frustration at Khushi and her bitter but true words. Now Khushi throws down the pot because she is relieved to see her husband.
A year ago Khushi broke the contract because he did not value her life. Now, Arnav staged a surprise for her to show how much he values her in his life. She had told him earlier in the day that she did not consider him as her husband because he had forced her into a contract marriage. He tried to make her see that he no longer considers their marriage to be just a contract. Although he flippantly said he does not mind being called a husband, in reality he WANTS her to recognise and accept him as her husband. Both the contracts were drawn up at his instance and were totally unfair and illegal but she maintained them to the best of her ability till it became just too much.
A year ago, she had told him that he had lost the challenge because he did not play fair. This time she was the one who lost the challenge by running into his arms. This time too he did not play fair but after the initial indignation, she gave in because she too wanted him as her husband as much as he wanted her to be his wife.
Last time Anjali witnessed Arnav's frustration and anger and correctly guessed that it was because Khushi did not let him explain. Now the entire family, including Anjali walked in on them when they nearly kissed and Anjali is the one who does not let him explain this time.
Opti
OPTI,
DeleteBrilliant......an uncanny similarity/difference.....beautifully brought out in ur post*applause*
somehow the irony of Anji words keeps coming back to me....right from the post-GH episode...when she calls GH/Payal to enquire after Khushi's wellbeing.....and informs Arnav that Khushi is well when he is waiting(tho not willing to show it) to hear abt it......
And a few days later when they have that epic conversation and Anji actually wishes for Arnav to have that someone in his life who will understand him and drive away all his pain....
Anji will see it when she can rise above her own pain..."pyar hisaab karke, naap tolke nahin hota, pyar toh bas ho jata hain"
Opti,
DeleteNice one bey!!
I did think fo the Khushi Arnav confrontation in the hall..
Hum aapki wajah se nahi, aapke bawajood theek hain!!
Yes, Sandy, then she had said, "hum aapke wajah se nahi balki aapke baawajood theek hai". Now she tells him, "Devi Maiyya ke Lac Lac shukar hai ki aap vaapas aagayaa hai. Aap jaanthe hai hum kitna dhar gayi?" so she was well despite him then but now she is well only because he is back.
DeleteOpti
Opti,
DeleteThis is how one contract he forced on her ended.
How will the other forced contract end?
Nothing ominous, just a thought that had occurred to me.
As per the spoilers Su, the contract is near its end and Khushi leaves the house because it has ended but lies to Arnav about why she was leaving. This contract has to be renewed or rather restructured into a life time commitment to being there for each other. So I guess it just lapsed to pave way for a new beginning in the lives of these two love birds. They have had their share of thorns. Now it is time for the bed of roses (the carpet of roses has already been laid out).
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Opti
Opti,
DeleteThis was brilliant ... so many similarities! Loved your compare/contrast of the two situations.
Then she said she was all right despite him, now she accepts she felt safe and secure only because of him.
To quote your last point, last time Anjali correctly guessed his frustration and anger ...
yes, and additionally ... if I remember right, last time also, the confrontation was witnessed by the entire family - or the three ladies, Nani, Anjali and Mami, here too, the entire family witnessed their togetherness. So another similarity.
But the difference, like you said, this time Anjali has completely read him wrong ... not about his preference - there she was right ;) he wanted to spend time with his wife ... but about his intentions - he truly intended to go with Anjali for the satsang.
Opti / Dia,
DeleteReading thru this and your points on Anajli understanding. Fri Anjali accused Arnav of having changed. But come to think of it when was it that Anjali stopped picking the correct vibes about Arnav?
Diwali I think. She knew Khushi affected him and hence all the hide and seek but the moment Arnav announced his engagement to Laavnya, Anjali tuned out on the Arnav being affected by Khushi. She assumed Arnav was in love with La and he was irked by khushi. She never realized that moment to be one where he had found the girl of his dreams and that as he had told her he had kept himself away from her. Plus he ahd suck to his adage of family and Di's happiness first.
Arnav actually from that point on was highly tuned to both women and balancing them in his life until Anjali woke up again around mehendi. And why then because of the previous night Teri Meri incident. Khushi stood alone and a man for whom winning was all important gave up his ego and helped her win. He was changed from that day on. And Anjali picked it up but failed to recognize just how monumental a change that was.
But yeah she was happy, and by extension he had permission to be happy.
As for Anjali accepting Arnav's breakup with La, I think she reconciled quickly with it because in the first place she agreed to it so that Arnav would not leave the house. She thought his happiness was with her but if you notice she set about changing La into a girl that Nani and she would approve of and not acept her as she was. Non confrontational and shooting the gun from Nani's shoulder. Also La never never had a lion's share of his attention even when she was his proclaimed girlfriend.
Plus this was a period when Shyam was barely at RM as Khushi was there. So Anjali was heavily tuned into Arnav. From Diwali onwards Shyam started spending more time at RM as Khushi had more or less stopped coming and I think Anjali got diverted to him and herself.
Anjali is able to see good and get the good vibes only when things are good with her. If her life is in shambles or having a downward moment, she projects the same onto others or expects others to solve it for her. And Arnav had been doing that all this while. For the first time he has actually stood up for himself and done what is right and not for her good / protection and she is coming apart.
Interstingly we have no idea how Arnav adjusted to and accepted Shyam in his life and went about sharing Anjali with him.
Opti beautifully compared. Went back and watched both last year's GH epi and friday's epi. The inly thing I want to add is that last year when she hits him (pushes him) exactly like she did in Friday's epi, he holds both her hands and pins her against the wall with a lot of anger but on friday when hits him and asks him aapne kiya ye sab he holds both her hands and pins her against himself full of love and affection for her....
DeleteForgot to mention. Then she said she holds her name "Khushi Kumari Gupta" more valuable than his contract. Now, he gently reminds her of her challenge that the day she runs into his arms she will accept him as her husband and how she did exactly what she swore she wouldn't. He then softly, yet proudly addresses her as 'Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada' a name which which is now more valuable to him than the stupid 6-month contract he foreced her to sign for he will never let even her name get separated from his (leave alone letting her separate from him)
ReplyDeleteOpti
Opti,
DeleteThat name of Khushi Kumari Gupta will come up again because Arnav in anger that day placed blame on KKG for Di's unhappiness. And unless he is able to rectify those words he carelessly let loose, Khushi will not agree to go back to RM once she leaves is my guess.
Agree, she wouldn't and shouldn't go back till she is his wife in the true sense of the word and more importantly I don't want her anywhere near RM if Shyam the Creep gets back there.
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Random Shiddat -
ReplyDeleteI know everyone is saying ODG should see, feel and know what ODG has been going through - re-watched a couple of old epi (post wedding) and one thing was very very clear - ODB knows - he saw it all - he knew when mami was taunting, he knew how hurt she was when buaji left without her for pagphers, he saw her cry her eyes out - and surprisingly, if i can read his expressions correctly - then
even then, even when he felt she deserved all the pain - he could not stand it - he was in pain coz she was in pain
So - i want ODB&G to talk about that time - for him to apologize and also tell her how much he suffered by causing her pain - i guess i want him to tell her that he loved her and was about to tell her when the tsunami hit
Mona,
DeleteYou left out 'munh- dikhayee', the humiliation she had to suffer!
"So - i want ODB&G to talk about that time - for him to apologize and also tell her how much he suffered by causing her pain":
Just wondering,if all this happens now and they get married and all, how does RTR happen?
May be there is no RTR after all!
All the hurt and pain can be erased with "sorry"?
He doesn't have to feel even an inch of the pain?
I am pretty heartless! May be this is what too much of Shyam and Anjali does to me!
Mona,
DeleteSorry...
Kaan pakadke sorry. This was your shiddat, really too much of Anji on me!
Haha Su - i know its irritating if you feel there is no RTR - but my view point has always been diff. here - what do you consider a RTR? - that ODB feel sorry and the pain that he caused - i agree - but also remember that he too was not having a joy ride - he too was suffering - (yes because he had been blind to gut feeling and only responded to the 'fact he saw', agreed but suffering he was)
DeleteNow given that they both know how much one matters to the other - will one person's suffering not effect the other - if ODB is hurt, ODG will hurt too, right? Oh I am not saying that Let off ODB - i am saying that all this - his finding out the truth, him supporting his wife, him handling anji is all part of the rtr -
And why i want him to say (or rather why i want them) to talk of the past is for them to know that they were both waiting, wanting, loving each other and from now on no more MUs coz they know what one did to them - basically that hey need to communicate - not only with their eyes but with words!
Mona,
DeleteThank You....
We think alike here:"his finding out the truth, him supporting his wife, him handling anji is all part of the rtr"
And here:- "will one person's suffering not effect the other - if ODB is hurt, ODG will hurt too, right?"
May be a little differently here:
If ODG is hurt, ODB will hurt too.It has happened in the past, it could happen in the future too.
Anyway, good for you , you don't believe in RTR, because if things go the way all of you are predicting, I cannot see any scope for RTR.
So, I'll wait for RTR(may be they scrapped it and no one seems to want it now) until they marry again(which has been promised, alright).
In the mean time, yeah, I hope they PUT IT DOWN IN WORDS, including ASR telling her how the MU cleared for him.
(btw, it will not irritate me if there is no RTR, b'coz it will be painful to watch! Any Arhi separation any way will be painful and if there is RTR it will be unbearable!)
Hola girls,
ReplyDeleteHope y'all are having a good weekend.
I got muddled up with the ArHi story and realized I was letting some personal hopes to colour my perception of what could happen. And as in recent times, when in doubt, think about Holi episde:)
The part I think is happening now is the bit where Arnav having wiped out the colour from Khushi's cheeks tells her that their hearbeats have become one. Then they are happily in each other's embrace when Di calls out asking them to come for lemon pickle to get rid of the "nasha".
Fri when I saw Khushi first fight and then hug him in my mind she had accepted what he said abotu being her hubby. But yes the contract will play on her mind, especially afetr the way Arnav reacted the last time Di got upset. He found it so easy to blame it all on Khushi. Plus Khushi is going to pull a ramanchi on Arnav for scaring her so he could win his bet. And maybe tells him he needs to try again just like at Holi and what did she do then, she tricked him into believing something. (that he was drinking thandai whereas it was actually bhang). ANd then ran away from him. And in that duration, he had flirted and danced with her, admired her looks, been smitten. That was also when Anjali and Nani saw firsthand just how much in love he was.
Going back to Holi, Besides just as they were finding each other Di called adn they started to walk out only for Khushi's dupatta to fall - her pride, her honour and she told Arnav to move on while she would get whatever is needed and come join him. But he insisted that he would wait. He lovingly told her I'm waiting when she asked him if he would wait for her or her heartbeats. And she walksback for her dupatta.
So ArHi separation seems to be inevitable. Not too happy because they had just gotten together but oh well if they could hook me on last year b4 these 2 idiots got married and stayed in the same house, hopefully they will keep us all hooked.
For Teej perhaps Arnav recreates the memory reminding her that they are already ordained to be together because he broke her fast last year.
In Beauty and the Beast it is just as the last rose petal falls and the Beast is almost dead that Belle comes rushing back to save him. Just like Khushi had been so relieved to see Arnav alive and well when she first saw him without barriers at the KN place, she will perhaps be so happy to see him one day that she will run to him and hug him - wholeheartedly losing her bet that day.
Plus Arnav still needs to make her smile. And her smile is dependant on all the family being happy.
Goin back to Holi, then Anjali comes to Arnav asking where Khushi was and he replies in the dupatta - in a shroud, under a veil of wrong understnading by Anjali. And just as Shyam voices the forced wedding bit, Anjali rescues Khushi and brings her to Arnav.
So perhaps then the time comes when the brother stands up to his sister and lets her know in clear terms why he believes Khushi, ust what Khushi did to keep everyone happy. And Mami says Arnav has been true to his word- he has sacrificed his happiness for his Di's. And this year Anjali goes to bring back Khushi where last year Arnav went at Raksha Bandhan. (Arnav and Anjali seem to be swapping roles within RM at the moment). Or Arnav goes missing and Anjali is forced to ask for Khushi's help in finding him. And Arnav has reached a point of breaking down with his guilt of what he has done to Khushi?
But she still cannot believe Shyam is behind the kidnapping or decides to give him one last chance on account of the baby leading to Janmashtami.
Sandy, quick one before I rush for dinner ...
DeleteYour B&B reminded me ... Beauty tells Beast she loves him only when the last petal falls and his time is about to run out = last day of contract?
Sandy,
DeleteWant to ask u, will u be happy, if Anji got Khushi for Arnav.......
makes for drama....but isn't the essence of the love story lost in it somewhere?
that they need a third person intervention to feel right about being together
or am i too demanding?
Dia,
DeleteBelle comes back when Beast is about to die pining for her and tells him she loves him, always has. By then the villagers too know that the Beast is no myth but a reality - meaning the whole gory truth about ASR's hand in Khushi's initial humiliation, Payal's wedding breaking - all of it comes out in my opinion. And also maybe the Guptas realize that Khushi was forced into the marriage by ASR. This mostly would be way beyond the time the contract ends. And it will be a closire of what began on Fri - where Khushi loves him not because he loves her but despite all that he has done to her.
The final test Paravthi had to clear before becoming Shiva's wife was to be told by a disguised Shiva himself on how Shiva is uncouth and lives with corpses. The answer to that by Parvathi was however he may be, he was, is and always will be my husband. The only one for me.
Last day of contract I think will hold importance from erasure of Arnav Rekha viewpoint; the fact that they are indeed husband and wife in each other's eyes and will always have each other in the journey of life. Earlier like Arnav was always there for Khushi, she will now always be there for him, to catch him whenever he stumbles.
Rekha,
DeleteAnjali will not bring her back to Arnav as in from love story angle. She will bring Arnav's wife back to RM, where she belongs because she is the reason for Arnav's wife leaving his home.
Khushi and Arnav are now each others forever. If you see the tagline now, it says Mohabbat Door Jaane Na De. Nafrat Paas Aane Na De. So the mohabbat has already kicked in. Arnav should in the next 2 weeks realize Khushi is still hung up on the contract and erase it between them by committing himself to her in marriage forever. Again like the last time, just them and DM under the watchful eyes of both parents. But Mrs. ASR is then going to refuse to go back and embrace her husband's riches and wealth because her honour, her pride is still at stake. (Arnav's 1st peetal bartan moment). Perhaps Shyam is back at RM by now and Khushi refuses to come back to a house where he lives.
I actually rethought my timelines a bit. So Teej is Arnav and Khushi getting the contract out of the way between them.
Raksha Bandhan I think will be the family realizing just how much Arnav and Khushi have been through just for Anjali's sake, how Arnav gave away his happiness for his Di. Maybe Arnav has a first meltdown with his Di and tells her you are the reason she left, now you will be the one to bring her back. He may go missing like Anjali did and Khushi comes to know of this and finds him(Arnav's 2nd peetal bartan moment). At this point whether Arnav goes back to RM or comes to GH I am still wndering about. Maybe GH - he loves Anjali but is unable to make her see reason so he makes his worst fear come true, of having to stay away from her.
And at Janmashtami Arnav will indeed become the evil mama Kans for his Di's child because he will finally bring out the true nature of Shyam before all especially Anjali. Maybe Babuji also speaks up by now.
And last year it was at Diwali that Nani got a bahu for her naatin. Perhaps the Guptas are finding it difficult to field queries on why Khushi continues to be at her maika. Maybe Babuji's illness was used as an excuse and by now he is better but Khushi is yet to go back home.
The near miss kiss comes full circle. The meeting with the Kumars happens in 3 months in Agra (Mallika-e-Hindustan comes home in full glory).
SN: I realized that my issue with Khushi going away was not being able to see her come home anytime soon given some of the umbrella statements made. Maybe I am wrong and TRPs will dictate another story.
But NK did tell Khushi she has gone back 1 year. And Arnav told her he is trying to recreate all that had happened between them in the past. And one thing that did happen was Khushi moved from Lucknow to Delhi to her buaji's house. Plus Nani told Khushi that night she should stay away from Anjali for a while (the for some time) was dubbed over to prevent audiences from going into a panic I think.
Beech main there will be Anji's wedding anniversary, their parents barsi. Nani may also keep finding excuses to call Khushi to RM to see Payal or maybe the Payash rift needs some TLC so ArHi again meet up to scheme for the same. Besides all the time Khushi was at GH, the ArHiness was really somthing last year. So yeah maybe history repeats.
Dia,
DeleteIf Arnav leaves RM to go to GH at Raksha Bandhan I can perhaos think that he accepts his share of the blame in the whole sory and Khushi professes her love for him - and it will be just before the contract which has been nulled and voided anyways is to end.
Shyam I think will come in by Teej / next week and they will show him brainwashing Anjali. So the villain is back for revenge and the Ani character is redeemed. She is good at heart but is being misled.
And after Teej, maybe Khushi does come back to RM with Arnav but Shyam manages to manipulate Anjali successfully this time and prevents Khushi from entering the house. Or Khushi and ASR before they entered the hosue while returning from KN decided that Khushi and Shyam shoudl not have to stay under the same roof anymore. So she leaves. ASR needs o understand his Di's blind devoion and start getting evidence against Shyam.
Shyam will curry favour with Anjali hoping to gain back the will only to learn later that Khushi is the new beneficiary. And then when he stes ou to hurt Khushi I think ASR will really hit him and leave RM.
Rekha,
DeleteMy only wish is that as they unfold the future epis, the past keeps coming up btween Arnav and Anjali and Arnav and Khushi.
DIa,
DeleteLast point for above, I want Arnav back in GH by RakshaBandhan having handed over the care of the family to Akash and Co. Because as Shyam comes closer to Anjali breaching the family circle, Khushi moves awy with the phone from Arnav clutched in her hands and together they go away from the family (The Scotland phone call) and she has her dream of aaoge jab tum o saajna. ANd payal told Khushi during that call, ab toh muskuraade khushi, arnavji ka phoen bhi aa gaya hai..!
Plus Shyam gets overconfident only in Arnav's absence. So thinking Arnav is out for good he will start to overplay his hand with Anjali too. Hopefully Lakshmi, Mamaji and HP will do their bit in this period.
If they do this well, given that they are starting teh Arnav Khushi story all over again but with love as the binding factor, this is going to be good. Some telepathic conversations, him pining, her pining, and then the stolen moments together at GH, Shuklaji's dabba service at office, the time spent cherished.
But I hope they execute well.
D,
DeleteOk sheepishly, one more last this time
Khsuhi told Buaji taht if she told Arnav and came would he have let her. Also that she ran away. So Khushi darling is going to lie to him. And Arnav when he comes looking for her, he asks her how she could come when he had told her not to and also taht she had not informed him. And the first scene is him, Khushi, DM and the thaal. They are alone for a moment. SO I have a good feeling about Khushi going to her maika, Arnav finding out and then clearing her head about this whole contract thing. And maybe the manant ki chhabi comes back to Khushi now. Bcos when it was with her things were passionate between these two. But he holds on to her paayal.
Maa ke kangan ANjali will give Khushi when she finally waes up from her slumber.
Plus from now on Arnav will strive to be that perfect husband that Khushi described to Garima. SO that when teh truth comes out, GH will know that thought he erred, he also tried to make up for it.
Do you think Arnav will realize Khushi actually lied and ran because she will again leave her stars behind at RM for him?
Dia,
DeleteSheepishly..jst adding to my earlier thought.
Khsuhi told Buaji on her bday that she had come bhaagke and had she told Arnav then he wouldnt have let her come. But Arnav eventually figures out that she went (maybe he finds her stars or that her clothes are gone from teh closet) and figures what she is trying to do.
And when he initially came to GH, he was all pissed but for a while they were alone with thaali and DM. So Teej is Arnav making sure Khsuhi si in no doub that she is Mrs. Arnav Singh Raizada for this lifetime and all other lifetimes to come - like that elderly lady blessed them.
And then it will be about winning back her smile. Kyun paakar bhi tumko khoya hai
and him saying in the latest promo that I will win you back.
He will also use this period to be the perfect husband that Khushi described to Garima so that when teh truth comes out GH will find it easier to forgive him for their daughter's sake. When Payal could then her parents are th ones who taughte her is it not.
Sandy,
DeleteAgree with you about most of the timelines.
Yes, I also noticed that Khushi told buaji that she ran away, because Arnav would not have let her come otherwise. Again the same thing will happen, he will not want to let her go, but after the rose petal fiasco, she will not want to stay.
Teej - Khushi will fast, Arnav break her fast, and the contract marriage is expelled finally - their marriage is for keeps, but in front of DM alone. I think Khushi will still not return, for the same reason, that Arnav needs to tell Anjali the truth first.
Also, Shyam re-enters at Teej - with a hidden meeting with Anjali - first contact.
Shyam continues to wheedle his way back into Anjali's heart, and create more doubts about Arnav's blind faith in Khushi. Arhi keep meeting at GH, Arnav trying to balance his sister and Khushi, but Anjali catches him going to meet Khushi and gets more convinced with Shyam's story of blind faith, her trust in Arnav's decision lessening.
Raksha Bandhan - Anjali drops the bomb on Arnav, that she wants Shyam back as her RB gift from Arnav - previous year's promise, witnessed by Mami, that Arnav can give up his Khushi for Anjali. Anjali knows he loves Khushi, yet she asks this of him. By now firmly convinced that Shyam is pure as driven snow.
Hence the way for Khushi to come back is also not clear yet.
So Arnav has to agree, and he leaves RM and goes to GH, leaving Akash to take care of Anjali. By this time, unless Arnav is a complete idiot, he will at least tell Akash the full truth, so that Akash is on guard. If he doesn't do that, he will ask Payal to be on guard - Payal these days is a far better bet than Akash. And then he has all the time in the world to woo her and win back her smile, and be the perfect pati she described.
And they both keep tabs through Payal and Akash on what is happening at RM. Arnav's absence also gets Shyam overconfident, and he exposes himself to the next two people ... see Barsi below.
Between RB and Diwali are three milestones ... Janamashtami, parents barsi and Shyali anniversary. I don't remember the order. Will Anjali actually have the baby? In any case, the matter of the will pops up again, and this time the wealth is divided between Anjali's baby and Khushi. Again Shyam is stumped. Janamshtami is 10th Aug - too soon for anything major to happen.
Barsi - Arnav Khushi have to attend. So some dhamaka will happen then too. Last time, Arnav apologised to Khushi for the first time after the barsi ... this time, will the rest of the family - Akash and Mami come to know the truth?
So maybe the final showdown between Shyam, Anjali and Arnav happens only around Shyali's anniversary ... and Anjali finally sees her husband's truth. And that's when she gets Khushi back to RM herself ... so then we have the re-wedding starting around Dusshera and ending by Diwali.
Sandy Dia ... A big bear wala hug to both of you. Absolutely loved each and every thought :D
DeleteDia,
DeleteFrom Khushi's POV, Akash is angry, Payal is angry and asked her to stay out, Di is angry, Mami is angry. Nani asked her to stay out of Di's way. Only Arnav wants her to stay and tehre too she has that contract doubt in her head. So she makes and excuse and leaves so that he is not continually shunned by Di also he does not spend so muh time trying to make her smile. And excuse is needed bcos he already told her he would stop her if she tried to leave plus the girl will be worried about him breaking payal akash with mami already angry. So hide true reason for her jiji and arnav's sake and leave.
Teej is today but yet to happen in IPK land. Teej I think will happen by end of this week or early next week. I am expecting Janmashtami to air only by end August/early Sep in IPK land - creative liberty.
Teej I think both will end up fasting and Arnav will have a fainting spell royally scolded by Khushi and perhaps she feeds him jalebis. Plus Arnav may notice Akash Payal cooling off and give some advice to Akash on looking out for Payal. That way the base condition of the contract is soothed. I am sure soon Arnav will begin to berate Mami about her name calling too.
Shyam Anjali wedding anniversary is between Teej and RB (looked it up during food bill thots). Maybe the truth behind Anjali Shyam wedding comes out here.
I am guessing Shyam is going to confess his indiscretion with Khushi but ask for a chance to Anji because of the child.
Even I get this feeling that RB is when Arnav confesses to teh family about it all. Arnav tries reasngin with her about SHyam only to realize that Anjali will walk out again. For his sister's sake he will ask her to stay back but he will leave to go to GH. There he will confess to Khushi's parents so that the stage is set for the final Shyam khulaasa before Anjali. (On Fri, he tried reasoning with her, she asks him to leave, family tries leaves and then Arnav goes back and makes her have teh pill).
With Arnav around like you said, though she will be in touch with Shyam Anji will still be miffed about Arnav meeting Khushi. And he will not hide it. He will tell her or Nani where he is going. So she is taken in by Shyam. Once Arnav leaves, it is all Shyam and once Anjali zones in on him, the dots should begin to connect.
Anjali will have the baby just after Janmashtami. Maybe early Sep by stretching times. Last year La called the police to RM asking for a BG check on Khushi on janmashtami so guessing police come to RM looking for Shyam this year.
The parents barsi comes just after Janmashtami. The past unfolds more here. And perhaps this year Anjali will go upto Khushi and apologize.
Once the child is born, Arnav will handover all to the baby with a power of atorney to Khushi. So the next person Shyam will look to kill is the baby or Khushi. Any attempt on Khushi's life is going to get Arnav all frenzied up in earnest. Shyam begins to get desperate after failed attempts on Khushi's life and then he targets the baby. Maybe a kidnaping like with Arnav and Anjali gets hyper this time and realizes teh truth by Navratri o finally eradicate Shyam from her life. Vijaydashmi is in late Oct this year I think.
And then begins her redemption with Arnav and Khushi and planing for a big fat Indian wedding.
D,
DeleteOur show promos are also puzzles :)
Simple se check BV and Mahadev promos. Whenever Mahadev main Shiv Parvathi vivaah happening, I guess apne show main Teej will be then ;)
TRP fight. I have a feeling the played around ME and last week due to that. Abhi Mahadev main bhi wooing shuroo hai Parvathi ka from Shiv. Mum saw this weekend and was telling me.
BV I think is slacking as lead fell sick. Mum watches JDJ where lead got eliminated this week and told me.
Me added it all up in the IPK context for my "ta da" moment :P
Sandy Dia hugsss to both of you. Very powerfully written hope the CVs read this. Sandy yaar tussi great ho! Kya retention hai Arhi timelines and scenes ka....
DeleteIf I remember right babuji found out shyam's true face after janmashtami rather just before diwali (nainitaal trip). When do you think babuji's truth will surface? Khushi is going to be very very upset when she finds out babuji's truth and Arnav will be hopping mad as khushi will be upset and he also respects babuji as khushi's foster father....
I am not convinced Anji will actually have a baby. I get a feeling and this is purely gut feeling that the baby will be harmed before birth. Don't know why i get this feeling i'm unable put my finger on incidences but i just get a feeling that Anji will not have baby. I think as you say Will will make Anji's baby the beneficiary with POA in K name. Shyam will try to harm K and after failed attempts he will harm the baby but I feel he will harm the unborn baby. I think Anji loose her child due to Shyam....
UJ,
DeleteThe timelines I had because I looked them up when I did the food bill thinking.
Oh so babuji comes to know of Shyam around janmashtami. Awesome. then taht is when Arnav goes all bets are off and brings out Shyam in true blue glory in front of his sister including babuji's truth.
Baby has to be born is my feeling because only then can Anjali give him a chance as a father and he will mess that up too and by Navratri she is also done with him.
UJ,
DeleteBesides they have clearly told us they are recreating hitory. So the future play should be a closure / undoing of stuff from when these 2 met plus teh new bit will be the infusion o fhe larger picture their pasts that will be added in at the appropriate times.
Like I told Rekha, I am going to keep my options open on ASR being half brother of Anjali till they discard it totally. The other thought I had on this was that Nani had another daughter younger to Anjali's mom who is Arnav's mom and her Didi ki saut. ANd the sisters kept quiet to keep th family together. Here too it is the seemingly younger sis Khushi who is being thought of as Di's saut?
And Shyam is this younger sister's jilted lover Possible that she was teh youngest and about the same age as Anjali or maybe just a little older than Anjali. Khushi's parents got killed in an accident caused either by this younger sis or Arnav's dad in getting to each other. Because of th accident teh family instead of going on to the destination went back home to discover the truth. Maybe that was teh day the family came to know about Arnav's existence. Till then he might have been in an orphanage / boarding school.
The whole scandal came out into the open on Anjali's wedding day and Shyam then too stepped in as the well wisher saving Anjali's honour like he did with Khushi - an opportunist.
Sandy - seriously how do you think of all this - sorry to act as blooper marker but how can Shyam be the jilted lover of Arnav's mom - their ages are not that apart?
DeleteSecondly - Arnav was not in an orphanage - remember Anji telling the birthday wish story and the "when you said your first words.." story - so no they have been together always
Kya twist hai, Arnav's mother is Anjali's aunt and Shyam the jilted lover......
DeleteBut Sandy, the age difference between Shyam and Arnav isn't much...at the most must be 10 years...so how is it possible, unless Arnav's mother (anjali's aunt) was 10 years elder to Shyam....
Sandy,
Deletethe event that shakes the R family or Malik family foundation is that suicide event....thats was is shown repeatedly....which means, mostly all was well until then...
where is the question of a muddled past for Arnav/Anji having diff mothers/fathers before that stage
the only other glimpse we had which was kind at odds with that smiling Master Arnav was the balloon incident....
On diff mother/fathers ....diff fathers is very remote considering indian sensibilities...and diff mothers is possible but what is the need to complicate story to such an extent.....two calamities.....meaning father was infidel twice over once with Arnav's mother and then again with someone a few years later...kuch baat hazam nahin hui
so, i think the half-brother thing somehow doesn't fit......
Is there a new promo out for the upcoming track?
ReplyDeleteSince Khushi flew into ASR's arms, I assume that the story line for last promo about him manaofying his biwi is over...rite? No?
Aki,
DeleteNo new promo. And no ASR manofying his biwi is not yet done. Had it been that kiss would have been a success not a miss.
Totally with you Sandy ... ASR not done yet. Not till he makes all these promises out loud to khushi - @4:35
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50RTsWClftA&feature=fvst
Dia and Sandy,
DeleteI like the timelines and the scenarios as described u both....one becos there is some action for the leads.....
i wld have been very disapppointed with a scenario at RB, if Arnav gets Shyam back but continues to stay on in RM.....thats a no-no, it dilutes what ASR stands for...itna jukna acceptable nahin hain....let him get VLR for Anji but let him move away......
Thanks Sandy. Guess that means Khushi will call foul and walk - hallelujah! I was afraid that they might finish the wooing track quickly, but am glad that it is misfoundesd as he DOES have a long way to go before he can claim her love.
DeleteSama - thanks for the link - brought back lovely memories!
The link to last year's July episode had me watching few other episodes and the similarities in the current track was striking. Around those episodes Arnav is fighting for his relationship with La and threatens to walk out as he wants to lead his life his way. Will he fight for Khushi the same way? At that time it was Nani against that relationship and this time around it will be Anjali.
ReplyDeleteAnjali makes a comment about how she trusts that Chotey will always make the right decision and has the right reasons for making those decisions. She will not challenge him in the fear of losing her Chotey.
And lastly, Mami makes a comment about Damadji's absence and whether he is having an affair. Is she now feeling somewhat responsible - even guilty to an extent?
God...there are so many ways CVs can make some sense. But they are hell bent on leading all tracks to incompeletion. Crying, fainting, typical saas comments, and half baked romance.
I cannot imagine Nani accepting Shyam back in RM after knowing what a down right creep and manipulator he is. She was firm about her own grandson when he wanted to bring in La and ensured that La slept in the guest room. Would she not object to Shyam's coming back, especially since his sins are far grievous than a bachelor wanting to live-in with his girl friend? I would be seriously disappointed in her if she allows this for the sake of Anjali's mental health because it is bound to take a bigger beating when Anjali comes to know of Shyam's truth in all its ugliness as it is bound to happen because she very well knows this man is beyond redemption. Or does her fear that her great grand child's life may be in danger going to override her resentment of the man?
ReplyDeleteAnyway there are a couple of things that I did not like about this PH in their earlier show. First, their immature way of handling pregnancy (using that as an excuse for advancing the story line at first and then getting rid of the baby in the most gruesome way after months to prolong the story). And the second more serious matter was belittling the wrong done to a woman by the man who tricked the female lead into a fake marriage (when he was already married), impregnated her and left her to her fate. The woman nearly lost her life trying to protect that kid. She ends up marrying the brother of the man who duped her but they messed up the entire plot when they showed her not only forgive the man who had wronged her (despite no great penitence on his part) but also showed her playing cupid for him and that too for her cousin sister. The show completely lost its sheen after that indigestable plot.
Now coming to the present show again we have a pregnancy which is conveniently being used to advance the story (still not sure whether they will show a gross miscarriage at a latter stage). Like the earlier show the relationships here are fairly tangled with the liaisons between family members. While in the earlier case it was the elder brother who ended up marrying the younger brother's discard, here it is the bro-in-law who is leching on his saala's wife, while the said saala lives under the impression that his wife is equally into the affair. Now that this tangled knot is undone and the lecher has been thrown out, if at any point in the story they show Arshi being forced to compromise yet again and let Shyam and Khushi live under the same roof, it would be hugely disappointing. Abuse by a family member is no joke and should be shown to get the serious punishment it really deserves because there are millions of victims who go through this torture silently for want of support of their family. I want to see a righteous woman like Nani take serious objection to letting that manipulator back into the house. In their eagerness to show how the family empathises with Anj's pain, they should not belittle the pain Khushi had to go through for no fault of hers. While a hot Arnav in pursuit of his wife is an eye candy, I still want to see a hugely repentant Arnav who swears that he will never let his wife go through any more pain, not even for his Di.
Opti
Opti, I agree with you ... especially on Nani not allowing Shyam back into the house. It would have to be something really major for her to allow it ... maybe Anjali will threaten to walk off with him if he is not allowed back. I really don't know how they can work Shyam coming back to stay at RM if Nani is convinced he is guilty.
DeleteOn the other hand, how will Shyam expose himself to Anjali unless he is back in the house? I really hope the PH doesn't make the same mistake twice though ... as far as I know, in Geet, Dev was not a murderer, here Shyam is pretty non-redeemable.
Opti,
DeleteI have a feeling when Nani objects, Anjali is going to mouth Mmai's words about how Nani has a soft corner for Khushi. Plus have this feeling that Nani si being biased. If she can allow La into teh house for chotey's sake why not Shyam against whom there is no proof. Or like Arnav did last year, she will threaten to leave. And none of the RMwaasis can allow that knowing how dangerous Shyam is. Plus Shyam may not openly come into RM immediately. He will get into Anjali's good books, brainwash her, get her aligned to his way of thinking. Remember he is like Peter Pettigrew. Unless he is sure of his bets he will not put his feet in especially now that he knows Arnav is not going to take his word. So he needs Anjali totally primed and brainwashed before he attempts entry into RM.
Another point, Nani is hung up on how the family was broken into pieces after whatever indiscretion Arnav's father ddi. And this time too she cites family untiy as tehreason for Khushi and Payal's silence. So to her keeping the family together is going to be of utmost importance alongwith Anjali and the unborn child's health.
I get this feeling that Arnav will not allow for Khushi to live under the same roof as Shyam (though the thought did cross my mind earlier). Besides initially when Shyam enters he will be very wary because Anjali will have her eyes peeled on him and Khushi. So even if Khushi is in RM for whatever reason Shyam will avoid her as the plague. I get a feeling Nani may get Khushi to come on some excuse or maybe for Arnav's parents barsi.
Gut feeling seems that the day Arnav realizes Anjali wants Shyam in RM, he himself will leave RM.
I really do hope you are right Dia, 'cos I am with Opti on this one - this kind of abuse should not be let off the hook/lightly just for the sake of drama - they need to show its just course and Khushi should not be subjected to any more of such behaviour.
DeleteSince this story is about RTRs and recreating past scenes, Buaji also has her own RTR to walk in forcing Khushi into an unwanted engagement - will she now try and protect Khushi by not letting her return to RM if VLR returns?
Wondering what jhoot will Khushi actually say to Arnav in the context of her leaving?
DeleteIt can't be something really silly.....so...
"Main isse zyada bhi ghir sakthi hoon"....is it something she says that really gets Arnav's goat.....brings out the angry, possessive side in him....
Rekha,
DeleteThat girl is going to not think so much. She will make something up and get caught in it once they reach GH leading Arnav to falre up at her.
Its like that mosquito bat incident at GH. She meant one thing and Arnav thought he was agreeing to something else.
Ladies thought to ponder:
DeleteKhsuhi manages to come over to GH. Then what? Payal calls enquiring about Buaji? - was suddenly reminded of that sccene where Khushi sprays Arnav with water and then he enters teh house followed by Khushi and Garima is on teh phone to Payal. Payal it was who made Arnav realize something was amiss on pag phera day when Khushi did not come back home.
Sandy, I don't care if Shyam tries to trap Khushi again in RM or not. That is besides the point. No woman should be made to live under the same roof as the man who not only blatantly declared his 'love' or rather lust for her but also left her to die and tried to kill her husband. Just for the sake of convenience in story telling, I would not like to see Arshi living under the same roof as that criminal. If Nani has any sensitivity she would not expect them to either. Family unity is one but not at the cost of one's peace of mind. If Arnav's parents' barsi is the reason, Nani better ensure that Shyam is nowhere in the scene. She can give an ultimatum to Anj saying if she wants her brother to attend this function, Shyam has to be out. In other words, Nani should make it clear that if at all she is letting Shyam in, it is only because of Anj. She herself has no regard for her damaad. She can and should keep putting him in place, snubbing him when he tries to sweet talk her (just as she did La). No room for catering to Anj's delicate sensitivities. Anj should be told that she cannot have everything. If she wants her hubby around, fine but she cannot expect him to be treated with the respect he was given before.
ReplyDeleteRekha, I believe Khushi will use Buaji's health as a excuse to leave RM. Maybe after they land in GH, Arnav knows she lied and confronts her when she spills out that the contract is over.
Opti
Opti,
DeleteI am not saying I am happy about ArHi living in RM with Shyam. I dont want it either. So Khushi is anyways not there. And that is why if Anjali insists on Shyam coming in I would like it if Arnav walks out.
And yes Khushi has borne enough and should not be subjected to more. But it is only now that her husband iss getting a glimpse of what she would have actually gone through post their hurried wedding. ANd in addition to that he subjected her to hate and pain.
Nani will keep putting Shyam in place no doubt. As to Nani agreeing like Dia said bele, something will happen which will tie her hands and she will unwillingly agree. The baby's health perhaps. And the unity part will not be forever. For now it is unity to Nani. You think in a while she will not realize why Khushi walked out. Or rather there will come a day when teh children's happiness becomes paramount and like she gave into La coming and living, she will give up the family unity jaap to set things right.
Khushi knows how dangerous Shyam is but she and Arnav will also realize how dangerous it would be to leave Anjali alone with his man. So they turn tables on him, Arnav walks out, SHyam is stuck at RM with all the family on lookput for him and he starts to get restless. Because he has neevr been able to take it that people put up with him or give him respect only because of Anjali.
The multiple senario envisaged is simply because of TRP these guiys may tweak execution.
But like Dia, initially I foresee Shyam working from outside. Then he only has Anjali to manage rather than be subjected to scrutiny by all the family.
Also Khushi's lie will be easily caught and then she will throw teh contract in his face and he will realize just how cut and hurt she was with his word sof that night. She wil lsay so what if I acccepted you as my husband and you did me as your wife, it will all end with the contract.Better today than later. And Khushi may sut tell him that a man who would go to such extents to save his siters wedding would not break her sisters.
Just re-reading all the comments on Shyam not being allowed back into RM by Nani ... and more and more I feel it will be very difficult for him to actually regain entry into the house.
ReplyDeleteArnav has told Nani that he heard it directly from Shyam, that Anjali means nothing to him. Not Khushi's word, but aankhon dekha, kaanon suna. So Nani knows that not only does Shyam not care for Anjali, but also has his evil eye on Khushi ...
Will Nani check the PG story with Buaji at all? Or will she just decide that since Arnav has confirmed Khushi's version, then the PG story is also true, hence Shyam has deceived both families - that too for a very long time.
In which case, again, I don't see how Nani or Arnav will allow Shyam back into the house, under any circumstances at all, even if Anjali does the biggest nautanki ... because this is not about her feelings, it is about her safety. And Shyam trying to come back into the house means he is up to something again.
So I'm actually having a re-think - will Shyam physically enter the house at all? Or will it all be manipulation from outside? And at RB, when Anjali asks for Shyam to be brought back, then Nani also puts her foot down, and it's Anjali who tries to leave the house. Or since I don't see her having the guts to walk out, she does a miscarriage drama ... and Nani very reluctantly allows Shyam in to see her. Arnav then says that if Shyam comes into the house, he will walk out ... and he does just that ...
I'm putting this as an alternative to Shyam actually moving into the house because I do feel that both Nani and Arnav will resist this with all their might, and so will Khushi from behind Arnav's shoulder, because she is scared of the danger to Arnav's life - she has seen with her own eyes and knows beyond doubt that Shyam is the kidnapper. So she also goes hysterical and tells Arnav he cannot stay in the same house as Shyam.
After that, things move the same way as we predicted ...
'tells Arnav he cannot stay in the same house as Shyam.'
DeleteDia,
If this happpens:
I feel she will fear more for Anjali and will make sure Arnav stays in RM right next to di where Shyam can be constantly monitored by him.
But Opti, just by allowing Shyam into the house (which by the way IS Arnav's), isn't Nani sowing the seeds of destruction of the very unity she is so keen to protect?
ReplyDeleteSaw a couple of Air force officers go by the other day, they were wearing aviators - and my instant reaction was 'Nah, you can't carry it off!' :D
ReplyDeleteCan i please add - return of the aviators and the cravat please - pretty please :D:D:D
seconded!!...the aviators for sure...cravat only if they upgrade Khushi's wardrobe to match up ...
DeleteOh no!! I had written a long post titled 'sucks to be Arnav' on Friday night and it didn't get posted:-(...
ReplyDeleteOh well you guys have discussed everything so wonderfully...
my two cents...
1. Someone please please kiss this guy!!;-)
...I'm feeling bad for him...first his huge MU was KMh and Now his huge khandaan is KHM...never going to manage to kiss his own wife...ROFL!
2. Good for you Payal- I think you should take a stand and walk out and only agree to return if Akash bitwa installs a lock on your door and if mamaji comes back so that mami's focus returns to her own bedroom!
3. Khushi...total ostrich moment when she tries to scatter the petals...and total aww moment when bitwa refuses to feel bad- hey we're legally married!!
4. someone please whack mamiji!...Arnav you better stop this PH and KB crap.
5. Finally Shyaam called? I hope we get some good action on the Shyaam manipulating Anji front...all this crying is BO-RING!!
6. Arnav stuck in the non traditional tug of war..Big sis is definitely playing...only problem is wife isn't playing- she's willingly letting go and letting big sis have him... only problem is he doesn't want her to let go...hmmm
7. Anjali really doesn't seem to care about this kid...:-s....disturbing.
Gargi,
DeleteAnji seems to be going the Bubbly way. Paper pe looks good - execution sucks! (Point 7)
With u on 4. Need to see that ASAP - this week. Like he told off Lavanya for calling her chamkeeli.
Point 6 - Hmm indeed - bechaara arnav rey!
Yes point 4 pronto and esp the PH and KBT ....the writers seem too much in love with their creation, get off ur high horses....
DeleteOn point 7, the funny part is Anji is not very concerned abt VLR or kid....only looks to wilt around people and blackmail in turns
Point 1: ROFL
DeleteShiddats....
ReplyDelete1. new clothes for bitya. no more gota. no more velvet. no more nylon - chiffons, gergettes and crepe if not cute cotton kurtis. Seriously.
(Guys you have to see Jeevika's wardrobe- i cannot follow that show but i have to say both lawyer boy and Jeevika have such a nice wardrobe...:-( grrr)
2. Is it confirmed that Khushi is going back to GH?...hmm can we have some stolen Arhi moments, Arnav sneaking out to meet her...
3. Ditto to your Teej shiddat...
4. Continue the Nannav NK bonding...
5. Payal to stand up to MIL- screw her husband intervening. She should tell her to back off herself. (never gonna happen I know)
6. I want a trip:-) I'm going to hold onto this shiddat. Keeping the faith alive. A trip with Arhi...with a very shy -secretly willing Khushi and Arnav with his same -'so what! she's my wife!' attitude...
Gargs,
DeleteNew clothes for bitiya and vitwa. He is wearing the same shirt almost back to back now..eww!!
Point 2 is a given :) But yes dhiddat to it too
Would love to see point 4 and some more copyat Nannav..but chances are NK will be WOL for a while again
SHIDDAT for point 5 but to Akash. Man I want to see that guest house waali Payal with Akash. She has started let it continue. No tears rather that indignant one at teh restaurant.
Tu aur tere trips...Babes I am wishing for an explosive car scene - cozy and combustible - like chudi tootne waali raat.
hehehe yeah i'm a lil obsessed with the trip idea:-)...you never know...maybe if enough shiddat behind it;-)
Deletebut absolutely yes shiddat to car scenes...integral part of Arhi romance so yes please car ride ton banta hai...
"One for the road"...all shiddat force behind u...
DeleteGargi,
DeleteMe too. Big shiddat for the trip esp.
DABH went to S'pore.
Behna want to Mumbai.
Can't these two atleast go on a picnic (not likely with ASR) or business trip? Next trip to Agra? Go, bitiya, go...
Dia,
ReplyDelete1. Khushi trying to erase the rose carpet:
He has laid a bed of roses for her. She will refuse it because she sees herself as a thorn in Arnav- Anjali
2. Have you noticed this?
BOTH KHUSHI AND ANJALI HAVE THE SAME FBs: That fb of Arnav and Anjali with Khushi in the bg.
I feel this has great significance. It means that even though Khushi knows ASR loves her, she perceives herself as an outsider/INTRUDER in the sibling relation. (Kuch cheezein toh badli jaa sakti hain: She can only change things related to her, and that she will do, because she can’t see the brother in Arnavji suffering.-Hum unse jhoot bolkar aaye hain)
3. On your title for Friday and subsequent discussion where you said you can see only grey Anjali:
Please concentrate on the NEXT dialogue after that.’ jab se tumne hamare sawalon ka jawab dena band kar diya hai’ The discussions on IF have painted her not grey, but BLACK. When I watch now, I don’t even see a grey Anjali, I guess because each of us sees what we want to believe. I hope the true colours come out soon.
Anjali- Shyam:
a) Everything in Anjali’s room is Radhe- Shyam now.(Almost like she has been re-decorating her room each episode). Really, there is a new idol/ painting each day.
b) Shyam plays the flute= Shyam gave CDs to Anjali: He will ‘sing a song’ to her about Khushi. (Whether the CDs had any other significance?- front- front…)
c) You had written in your edit sometime back, ‘Anjali will be in grey till she gets white-washed’(or something similar); I’d mentioned the same day ‘Anjali will be grey till someone pours water on her’! Dilly-dallying a bit here, but, who threw water at Anjali?(Babli- soap- poolside) I think she will know the truth through Shyam (words or actions), much later probably.
Also, Cds.. Loudspeaker..
DeleteMami is only too wiling to believe phati saree is evil..
May be the song will be sung to the whole of RM.
Dia, Rekha,
ReplyDeleteAbout that discussion on dood’s post:
I am strongly feeling now that she might have a point.
NK did mention ‘door ghatna’:
I think he meant a “durghatna” which is a door-Ghatna, might occur after 3 months.
This accident may also be related to Arhi(may have involved someone from either of their past) and we may get to see it after 3 months- the next stumbling block(?) in ARHI union.
‘Almost sure it is a future track’.
Didn't get the 'satsang' bit here.
Sandy described satsang as a satya ka sang or sangath....seen in that light, probably in the past Anji's mom was also going somewhere/temple and she came back home to face the truth (satya ka samna, kind)
DeleteWhile Doods has a point on linkage.....i don't buy Khushi being responsible for Arnav's bad past in any way....in any sense, she was only eight years then...what harm can an eight year old cause?
Rekha,
DeleteThanx for explaining 'satsang'. Yes. Mother- temple- truth. Makes sense.
I feel IPKKND will live up to the title name right till the end. Their love will be tested in all kinds of ways. MU is over. Another separation will happen. And just as they fight everything and come back together, something else has to come up.
'i don't buy Khushi being responsible for Arnav's bad past in any way..': Me too. Her parents could have been responsible and that may be how their pasts are linked.
But, don't you think ASR will fight tooth and nail to keep her if 'his' family was the one that was wronged. So long as the decision is in HIS hands, he can pooh pooh the past and declare that only the present matters.
WHAT IF it is the other way around? His father/family destroyed HER family and may be there is one surviving member who will come back for revenge.
(The accident on the way to satsang may have involved that person, who was coming in search of Khushi- someone from her father's family?)
And if this person comes to know how the Raizadas have ill treated Khushi, ASR forced her into a contract marriage- his anger will know no bounds. Heer will be separated from her Ranjha again.....
I'll stop here. I am wary to predict future tracks in detail, I'd rather wait for the events to unfold themselves.
B'coz I love the CV's magic.
I do feel very strongly about the accident, Rekha. Accidents are frequently used in movies as a turning point in the story, and in this show which is full of symbolisms, "door ghatna" really signifies something, esp since it was mentioned on the same day.
And on the very same day was mentioned Kumars and 3 months.
Deletewhat the - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_YRcVWX8Y&feature=g-all-u ??
ReplyDeletethree questions -
1. Is Sanaya really on a leave??
2. Was this shot before she left on one?
3. Can we expect some ArHi scenes throughout her leave? :))
Madsie Hi5 again >:D<
DeleteOh yes we can expect many ArHi moments ahead !
OMG..hi5 fr the hi5! >:D<
Deletelol yea Hi5!!
DeleteIs Sanaya really on leave cause my first reaction was it is been said to cool people off about less screen space b***s*** @IF & there was also a speculation about her leave a week ago after Mohit's interview. You know adding 2 and 2 together to 22.
Or maybe they might have canned few scenes, hence no precaps last 2 episodes. Story is at a point where they can at least pull off 2 days without khushi being onscreen over 15 mins.
Awwwww - CHANNA VE coming up!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_YRcVWX8Y&feature=youtu.be
hi5 sama!! :D the second time.. lol! :)
DeleteSama/Mads - thanks - the one time i don't mind seeing food during the day :D:D:D
DeleteMona fasting? Me can't this week :(
DeleteWell we had a shiddat of khushi eating all jalebis and ASR looks all amused. I think we are getting that with channas.
yup, and thank God for air conditioning! - really makes life easy :D
Deletefast or no fast - make up at the iftar :D
Mads and Sama thank you!!:-)
Delete>:D<
DeleteMona of course Iftar ... yummm ... over an hour to go ... making mint lassi :D :D
Sama - where are u? aren't you in india? we still have 2.5 hours here
Deletethe crux of the matter is
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB82GAku6nc
and a funny MIG post.. for all the grownups on the blog :p
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3109426
What's the age bar BBE??
DeleteJaya - hilarious :D:D:D - the crux of the matter is just too good - got to go home and watch it in peace - as it is my colleagues think i am nuts, chuckling to myself!!
Deletethe crux of the matter - ASR POV
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx6NUZiA4JY
ROFL!!!
DeleteWait when was the message in the bottle scene??
ROFL!!! Sama...those VMs are EPIC!!!! :D :D tooooo good yaar!!! :D :D
Deleteespecially liked the end part!! 'Aap much car kyun nahin rate hon!!' ..'much karma nahin the ton hums yeh rishta manvaya kyun!!''...ROFL ROFL
DeleteKhushi's dream after ILU. Here -
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEqcW4bIVmA
best part in khushi's POV waala VM is the maker's thoughts on the jaadu hai nasha hai kiss "mentally denying the fact that this is on star plus" :P :D LMAO!! EXACTLY what I keep on reminding myself when I get irritated with all the interruptions.. :P or rather, used to... now I fnd another person to put all the blame upon.. :P D*coughs*B.. :P
Deleteoh now..that was on the water-water fight kiss.. :P
Deletebtw...IMO the topmost example will be the very latest one with Raizada clan entering through the main door! :P LMAOO!! :P I was sooo embarassed on behalf of khushi, if one could have a photograph of me I think I'd have my cheeks red!! :P Really, ASR.. the LIVING ROOM ... of all the places?! :P
ROFL ROFL ROFL.. cant pin point the best parts - all are so damn good - AIL, DIL.. 'personal best 25 sec" - hilarious!
Deletesama, thanks for that one! lmao "ting ting ting darwaza band kar lo..."
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ReplyDeletespoiler pics!!! :) :) today seems to be a treat.. and CVs are smart-asses!! :S
wow its a spoiler treat...perfect Monday blues pick-me-up:-)
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ReplyDeletereally...what IS the age limit on IF?! :P :S read some of the comments.. they are worse.. beginning from via-agra.. :P
obviously there are some "ladies" who are seriously frustrated at the living room rabba- ve- phiss.
Deleteand putting yourself in khushi's shoes, like madsie said(she has the best recent experience.. what with a fiance and all..)getting caught in the living room by the full family is turrible, turrible! and our dear girl, never been kissed yet.. UST ki bhi hadh hoti hai na?
there is no real age limit on IF.. they just close posts that the mods think offensive.. MIG isnt offensive as long as it is not downright vulgar i guess..
more romance huh?? sooooo happy!! i saw the first episode in telugu..it was hilarious!! Khushi is Indu and ASR is Arjun!! laugh riot!
ReplyDeletehow will they lip-sync all the "khushee" calls to "induu"?
DeleteAnita, for fun's sake....do let us know if the WTs...are retained....
Deletea post in defense of anjali ;D
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