Friday, July 6, 2012

6/7 - Epi 291 ... Thappadwa Ve :)))

Friday 6th July

Quick update - first the precap ... who the *&^* wants to see Di going all hysterical, for Gods' sakes?!!! Show us the guy who just came back home after fifteen days in captivity, show us the girl who risked her life to save him ... who the heck is interested in Di and her hysterics??!!! Yeah, right her world just got blown apart, yadda yadda ... if she'd been the slightest bit observant, she would have remembered a lot of slips that Shyam had made all through, and connected them ... including finding her husband in her brother's room on more than one occasion ... she had it coming!!!

Second rant ... what the heck ... why did Arnav wait so long to give that thappad??!!! Why did Khushi have to plead with him to trust her? After NK said what she did was to get Shyam's trust, Arnav should not have needed any further proof ... not after hearing Shyam go on about how Khushi was the one leading a married man on ... when that was the one thing he knew was blatantly false! Why did he let Shyam insult Khushi for so long?!

Arnav's RTR did not get any miles subtracted today ... what he gained for giving the slaps, he lost for Khushi having to plead her case ...

Liked Payal and NK today ... Payal gave out the news of the engagement very succinctly and effectively ... NK gave out the explanation of why Khushi tried to gain Shyam's trust ... and without getting the pen-drive, they would not have had the motive for the kidnapping ... or known that Shyam was indeed behind it ...

Shyam got too much screen space today ... oh well, his last chance of being in the spotlight ... after this, he's out till he gets back in new improved, more villainous mode ... I'm actually waiting for it ... the alternative is watching weepy, hysterical Di being the centre of attraction ... boring!!!

I won my bet ... thappad happened today :)))

Episode was good on the whole, except for the last bit ... and it was never actually explained why Arnav made his decision. So Arnav has not come out with the whole truth yet ... now he's the one hiding secrets ... as to why he married Khushi, and that he actually knew of Shyam's treachery for almost as long as Khushi did, and did absolutely nothing about it. Yep, Arnav is in the dock now ...

Short update - mostly thoughts, will update more as they strike me ... and after reading the takes here, some changes in initial thoughts too ;) Thanks, Sandy, UJ, Opti, Su, for giving me different perspectives.

On first watch, I was completely :-o … WT* ??? That’s all? Slap and Get Out?! But nobody proved anything, it was just Creep’s word against Khushi’s and pffft, the big man delivered his verdict … what the heck did he have to wait for so long for?! Fell totally flat for me … I was hoping for Shyam to firmly put his foot in his mouth and get caught out … 

On re-watch though … has Shyam does exactly that? Expressions of the family seemed to indicate that they were not completely swayed by his blustering and bad-mouthing … and some of them know that what Shyam was saying was false … 

Akash knows that Payal was not trying to trap him, she was in fact backing off because of the social difference ... he had to in fact plead and beg her to marry him … and so does Arnav

NK heard the paying guest truth for the first time, but he could put it together very well with what he had already seen, and he knows now the entire picture …and it confirmed for him what he had already seen ... Creepwa lusting after Khushi ... he now had the time perspective of how long it had been going on ...

Mami and Nani have seen Khushi worry for Arnav when he went missing, Anjali saw her love for Arnav, she was the first to point it out to Khushi … did they entirely believe Shyam when he claimed Khushi was running after him? Even if they weren’t sure, it’s a start … there is room for doubt in their minds ... and the first thought of questioning whether Shyam is indeed telling the truth and nothing but the truth ... if he could lie about this, he can lie about other things.

When Khushi told Anjali that she didn’t want to tell her about the engagement, I felt at that point that Anjali did not entirely disbelieve her … and neither did Arnav … besides, Arnav got the confirmation from Payal about Khushi’s engagement story … I felt that was when the scales tipped for him, he’d heard enough, and he knew that whatever Khushi was saying was the truth ... what she had been saying, and whatever she was now going to say ... 
But he also saw that was a huge blow for Anjali, which made a telling impact ... he was looking out for his sister at that point, that was why he started to take her away … 

And so did Shyam, which was why he forced Anjali to stay back … and went into fifth gear with his accusation … Shyam could not let Anjali leave, the other RM members were silent now, even Mami had stopped accusing Khushi and they were all silently listening to her, he had to have someone to shield him. Arnav was protective of Anjali seeing her condition ... Shyam, her husband, the one supposed to be most concerned about her health, who had always stepped in to stop other people from talking when the truth looked like coming out ... now was least concerned about his wife's condition ... and insistent on hearing the entire "truth" and having his say.

I was okay with the family keeping quiet - they did need to give them both a hearing … neither had proof to back up their claims, it was one’s word against the other, and for the Raizada family, it was obviously more difficult to believe Khushi over a man who’d been a well-loved and respected part of the family for the last three years and had never put a foot wrong … 

Also, like Opti and I said yesterday ... for Arnav it was like looking in a mirror, these were all accusations he had leveled at Khushi himself, and hearing them from Shyam would have been a shocker, bringing home to him how badly he had misjudged her and how badly he had treated her, knowing them now to be false.

Creepwa's long spiel was dragged ... but it was needed ... not just for him to spew all his venom, but also for the family to see the ugliness of the man behind the mask emerging ... how he could stoop to level such disgusting charges against two women of the family ... without a shred of proof ... and when each member of the house knew some facts which were completely contrary to what VLR was saying. When VLR levelled the charge against Payal about her wanting to marry into a rich family hence her quiet, Mami, who had always accused her of doing exactly that, was silent, and Akash looked incredulous because he knew that accusation was false, and so did Arnav. When VLR accused Khushi of wanting to bring Arnav down, Khushi admitted it up front and NK was quick to clarify that Khushi had done it only to win his trust ... also confirming that NK knew of this and it was part of Khushi's plan ...

I will add here ... whatever Khushi said, this time she had someone or the other to back her up in different parts of her story ... Payal confirmed her story about Shyam being the PG and her fiance, NK confirmed that she had tried to win Shyam's trust, and the reason for it ... Arnav himself knew that Shyam was lying about not being in love with Khusi, and Khushi being the one chasing him ... Mami knew that Khushi had been hunting frantically for Arnav, even putting herself in danger ... and again, Nani and Anjali have seen Khushi's love and worry for her husband ...
But then again, they have all also seen Shyam's worry and care for his wife ... so which one of these is a lie? However, the big difference ... the holes Shyam tried to poke in Khushi's story can be proved to be false, but Shyam's own story will not stand up to any probing at all ... he claims that Khushi was pursuing him, but no one in the RM has seen any evidence of that, except for those two instances of Anjali seeing Shyam and Khushi together ... and those too were during the time period that Khushi admitted to trying to win Shyam's trust, and NK confirmed that part.

Payal was good ... her testimony was needed and she did it very well ... but the family's reactions were muted ... they should have been much more dramatic ...

Khushi started her accusations by prefacing them with an apology to Anjali, that what she was going to say would hurt her ... when Payal told about the engagement, Khushi again apologised for her quiet ... and repeated Creepwa's words back to Anjali ... it was she, Khushi who had kept quiet ... hum sab jaante hue anjaan bane rahe ...
Whatever Shyam was saying he did ... kept quiet while Khushi was throwing herself at him, was actually applicable the other way around ... Khushi kept quiet while Shyam made advances, kept ignoring him, hoping he would get the hint and back off ... making the whole situation worse ... 

And finally … when Khushi made that plea to Arnav ... please look into my eyes, and then make your decision … at first watch, I didn’t like it … what happened to all that trust, that atoot vishwas and all that jazz? :( :-o

But on reflection … after reading Sandy's post ... this was déjà vu of the airport scene … when she begged Arnav to believe her, he asked her for proof, and she was trying desperately to supply proof, to produce a witness … and she couldn’t. Now she laid out all the facts on the table, including the damaging ones that yes, she told Shyam she wanted to bring down Arnav, but only to win Shyam’s trust … she even got close to a man she hated, because she needed to find Arnav (loved NK for backing her up there and saying that Khushi lied to Shyam to deceive him) … she does not have a shred of proof, she only has her word … and he can see the truth in her eyes … again déjà vu to the Sethi brothers time, when she said a person can always be caught out in lies when they don’t meet the eyes … 
And she said her piece ... gave him all the facts, her side of the story ... and then left it up to him ... I have no proof this time, all I have is the truth ... I have told you everything I know ... the rest is your call. 

And Big Boss delivers his verdict … in not one, but two tight slaps … one for his sister, one for his wife … placing Khushi at the same level as Anjali … the two most important people in his life ... loved Khushi's tearful, almost disbelieving look and the beginning of the smallest smile when he said that ... :">
And finally doing what he should have done much earlier ... throwing Shyam out of the house.

But picture baaki hai mere dost … there are still more revelations to come … the biggest one … Arnav has known about Shyam’s kameena ways almost as long as Khushi has, and also kept quiet in front of the family and Di. Why did he not say a word about that, when it would have been the clincher?  Would it have been too much of a shock for Anjali to realize that her brother knew her husband was a kameena, and did absolutely nothing about it? Except to marry the girl concerned? Now I can see the rift between Anjali and Arhi develop … and with due reason … Anjali is the wronged wife – she had the right to know, she has the right to decide Shyam’s punishment. 

201 comments:

  1. YES !!! YES !!! YES !!!

    FAATTAAAKKKKKKKKK :D :D :D

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    1. Yeh meri Di ko dhoka dene ke liye

      Aur

      Yeh meri Patni ke saath battamizi karne ke liye

      Dil mein sukoon sa!!

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    2. sama yes dil khush hua !!

      but something was missing there .. don't know what but K confronting that he did say that and then just asking to trust is something not sitting well with me ..

      may be need to watch it again ...

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    3. typo error I mean but when K agreed of ruining Arnav, and then asking to trust her is not sitting well with me .. did I miss something there ??

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    4. Aaru that's the part that din't go well with me either !!

      But what I liked is what followed the TG .... Anjali's reaction .... till now she was lost as to what was happening but as soon as her Chote slapped her KP, it was as though .... "It is true ... it's got to be true"

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    5. Oh when she told about the ruining part I am fine with that ..... she explained it fully ... no doubt there even with the family members let alone Arnav

      Think that kind of took the momentum away from me was K asking A to trust her ... it was almost a plead.

      But then there was nothing else left.

      K's reaction after he said .... meri Patni se battamizi karne ke liye .... explained why she pleaded A to trust her ..... she is yet to know that A now trusts her completely

      I also loved A's reaction when he was listening to what she has done to get him back home ... how much she has gone through .... serves him right.

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    6. yes sama what followed was good and her chote was the last blow she had to take for the wall of glass to break ...

      now what am looking forward is why did not arnav come out with shyams true face in front of the family .. he had the proof that shyam said he loved K ?? maybe we expected too much there ..

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    7. think I need the re watch for this .. am not able to relate there ...

      any one has link for this part ???

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    8. Ayega ayega ... once Di is taken care of .... do you think Nani and Mami will keep mum ... nopes

      All will ask him why he did so .... it cannot be what happened then and there .... Mami will also attack Payal .... Akash is not going take it easy either .... that's where A will speak up .... how much that is to be seen.

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    9. I am not sure and so i need fortification here.....but this is what i thot......

      I thot Arnav was really controlling himself as things were going out of control....in fact there is one scene when he is about to say something but one look at his Di and he tends to rein in his real feelings BUT when Khushi makes that plea....thats when he responds.....HE COULD NOT HOLD IT BACK ANYMORE....

      On why he let it play out to this level, i am still collecting my thots and crystallising...thats for another post

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    10. Agreed Rekhs
      that he was controlling himself.. but that dialouge was not needed.. one look from K should have been enough.. it does not matter if they had planned this out or not .. now seeing today .. it seems it was like they never planned for a confrontation there ..

      also agree that K's plea was last straw but then why not one line regarding that I know your true face not today but from six months back ..

      Or would have been the reason that if he says that he knows his true face he has to explain is marriage which would have gone against K because he did not believe her ..
      today byu not letting out the reason he has infact he has safeguarded that ??

      but then RM ppl are not convinced that VRL is creep, how is that going to be handled .. he has actually put K in fix instead of clearing her image infront of everyone ..
      its like VRL statement of K patofying ASR is true ..

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    11. Aaru, this is complex.....really...god i never thot i would ever send so much time and energy discussing a fictional character..and his mysterious actions....WHY ASR DID U HAVE TO HAVE SO MUCH IMPACT ON MY LIFE?

      Sometimes our expectations of how an character should play out overshadow the analysis of the actual actions of the characters...why he did, what he did....

      Honestly,I had a deep sense of disappointment that his first thot as this sordid drama played out was of only Di not Khushi.....this comes from my expectation that ARHI's love story deserves a better voice.....but at one level if Arnav had only thot of Khushi, it may also be a inconsistency with the characterisation of Arnav as conceived by the writer...

      This is a mental adjustment i had to make when i was watching the epi....knowing tat nothing has happened to let Arnav not think of Di's welfare.....first and foremost...yes he is deeply in love with Khushi and I am rationalising this aspect, he derives strength from Khuhsi but gives his strength to Anji, a more fragile being.....

      CVs have to bring more layering to make this an ARHI love story.....DB has indeed driven a hard bargain.....

      Sorry i am rambling....still assimilating......

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    12. Ok lets also accept that ASR could not have opened his mouth without compromising Khushi and his fragile marriage equation....which also brings me to the point that this drama is far from over.......

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    13. I know rekhs

      ASR is a complex and to keep in character he had to stand by his Di, he did want to slap vrl the moment he called K a gold digger and characterless, but one look at his di he gulped it down .. and agree the bro was in forefront today .. and bro had to be forefornt.. and K knew that bro in him would be at the top .. what is that when you have just got your love of life back and you leave her to be lashed to the wolves ?? agreed you never thought it would go this far .. but then when you slapped vrl why did he say mere biwi se batamizi kar ne ke liye .. he should have said biwi ki badnami or meri biwi ko joota sabit karne ke liye ..
      for me the dialouge missed the ASR punch ..

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    14. Which is the reason the title Didi ki saut is what this is as of today....For a while, i am going to stop building romantic castles in the air

      For a long time, i was having doubt on his shatir dimag but everyone has been telling me he possesses one and so i bought that too....anyways i was happy thinking chodo shatir dimag na sahi, ASR is in love with KKGSR.....Thats enuf....

      Ab toh usme bhi doubt aa raha hain....

      All those of u who think this is still an ARHI love story, make it right for poor souls like who are confused, want to believe but don't know how......I never signed up for anything else....GUL can i continue my belief or AM IN THE WRONG VEHICLE, Do i need to get off?

      DID he not speak anything only becos he did not want to bring out the issue of their marriage, am i right in thinking that?

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    15. Hey Aaru - sorry for butting in but to me the dialogue "mere biwi se batamizi kar ne ke liye" made better sense than "biwi ki badnami or meri biwi ko joota sabit karne ke liye" - see batameezi engulfs a lot more than rude language - so he was actually talking about a lot more than just that evening - he was talking about all the 'mis-behavior' TF had subjected ODG to!

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  2. yes Double dhmaka,
    2 fataak but .........
    and a heavy dose of drama .. man can't handle so much ...

    but alas --- ek mere patni se batamezze karle ke liye chalo maaf kiya bitwa for all the chupke for all the while when that creep was accusing your wife ...

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  3. SandyJi .... Tussi great ho!!!


    "He will walk up to both of them and Shyam will smirk thinking Khushi is going to get thrown out but surprise surprsie - he will end up getting slapped.

    And then complete blustering by Shyam wondering what just got pulled out from under his feet..Ha!!"

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    1. twine

      where are you ... man tell me now are you one of them .. but yes loved this expect the leading to the slap.. I mean why was all proof of NK and Khushi was made unusefull along with Bitiya agree to VRL on ruining Bitwa .. that is not sitting well .... and not even the bitwa confronted shyam about what he said ...

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    2. geetu

      I call Sandy twine - my twin sister its like I need to think and she writes it or puts it in her beautiful words exactly the way i would want it be said .. !!

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    3. Sama,

      HI FIVE!!

      U bet I was grinning and fist pumping when the ASR tune began and he started to walk. I almost rushed to R&R to say gloatwa vey ;)

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    4. aru,

      Twiney - personally very gratifying moment for me today :)

      Plus when the bonus thappad happened and later Arnav threw Shyam out - I was all happy...Yday I was posting saying shaadi waale din he had clearly elucidated to Shyam that if Di was not preggers I wud have thrown u out this instant, so get accusttomed to living with her and saty awa from my wife khushi

      Chaanta 1: for di's dhoka
      Chaanta 2: for meri patni's insult

      CHaanta Lagaaa haai lagaa...:)

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    5. Oh and girls,

      did you realize that if you consider the epis starting Monday,

      Khushi first pulled an Anjaam climax on Shyam by getting him to believe in her and then showing her true colours

      Then since they entered RM, it has been that Karz song climax - saamna jab hua, phir wahi sab hua

      Aaj Shyam had his Khakee climax moment when he realized Khushi was the "queen" and not the "pawn" And Arnav had his Aks moment with "sach ke sar jab dhuaan uthe toh jhoot aag main jala hua hai"

      Anjali bechaari had her Aasha moment "sheesha ho ya dil ho aakhir toot jaata hai"

      So can I please request Godjee to give me my "Don climax bit too next week (transcribing from the video not from memory)
      "Mere dushman samajh rahe the ki main ab kabhi lautke na aaoungaa
      Ek gumnaami ka hi samunder hai usmein hi jaake doob jaaonga
      Abhi baaki meri kahaani hai
      Saari duniyaa ko jo sunaani hai
      Mujhe pehchaano dekho main hoon kaun
      Aa raha hoon palatke
      dekho main hoon Don...Boom!"

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    6. DON ka junoon ab bhi sar chadh kar bol raha hai :D :D

      Aap ki mano kamna puri ho!!

      Aur DON ki entry please make it Donish ... naha dhoke suited booted ... oh as its night casuals... out of that vest ... PULEEEEEJ

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  4. finallly........he accepted....khushi as important as Di.....waah....Bitiya's expression was awesome.......

    2 slaps....one for Di and one of Biwi.......

    but i thought Bitiya's dialogue b4 slap was lame....she shud've just called him and looked at him.....their eyes wud've done the magic.....

    when VLR asked Bitiya bt her ASR ko barbaad kar dungi dialogue and she accepted.....i got so scared looking at Bitwa's face....it had that mixture of 'you did all this for me and you really that' expression.......

    today it didn't look like a planned attack at all......
    Payal was good though......said everything important in little words......

    VLR had the nerve to call Payal also a gold digger....Payash are gonna be a pain to mend........

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    1. the first bart i missed. the second bart was fantastic.. the third bart was a bit geela. i esbecially did not like the "look into my eyes" dialogue.. totally looked like batchwork. there was no need for that, actually. arnavs bhataaks were fine, the dialogue really needed, but the way he bulled off snakewa somehow lacked the intensity that was there before.

      now you know one of my keys is broken :D

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    2. exactly Geetanjli...it didnt look like a planned attack...ASR was as shocked to hear certain things as the rest of the family...hope we get a FB post "sabke saamne saabit krne ke liye proof hai tumhare paas" ...

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    3. p b p b p b p b p b p b p b :D :D :D

      yes I think that's the part that everyone had problem with .... but somewhere it was needed to Q A's judgement by others.... if everything was clear and ASR said his part of the story ... how will family drama continue

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    5. i second that Jaya, that dialogue wasnt needed, they cudve done something better...

      Ayesha, me too want fb's, dont know when they'll show...holi confession fb's were shown after such a long time, hope this time they do it jaldi

      Sama, but it made him look lame....i mean after the soul convo...and she doing so much to get him back, wud've looked better if just a look from her conveyed what was needed.....and then its ASR, he has never answered anybody's query bt his judgement......

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    6. Jaya,
      *rofl*
      Did you mean the KB key or 'your' Key?

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    7. "wud've looked better if just a look from her conveyed what was needed....."...ditto...that dialogue was not needed...

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    8. Geeta ...I wrote this above to Aaru's Qs .... it was not about ASR ... it was Khushi .... she had nothing else left to do &she is had always been look into the eyes types, totally in character with khushi we know... she does not know yet how much ASR trusts her ... she only experienced the fact that he cares ... also loves ... she can dare dream ... but trust she is yet to know .... her expression after he said ... meri patni ke saath battamizi karne ke liye ... gave khushi some idea of A's sentiments.

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    9. i agree Sama, but what i wud've liked is she just reaching out to him with a simple 'Arnavji' and he turns around, sees into her eyes and knows the truth....walks upto to them, looking at her....and slap *hits VLR*

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    10. i know Geeta ... when I was watching even I said "this is not what I wanted" but when I explain it as I have done ... it makes me feel better

      ASR is a brother who finds his love & it is like his sister said .... tum jee nahi paoge!!

      that's exactly how its going ... Anjali accepting her pati is indeed KP is something but it should be her decision to penalize him ... hence VLR goes free as of now ... and as it is ASR does not have any proof ... Guptas will not be accepted as proof as they are ladki walas & can be painted exactly as VLR stated today

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    11. Hi guys, agree with you all ... that last bit missed the punch somehow ... Khushi having to plead her case lost the impact of that TRUST thing which had built up between them.

      She shouldn't have had to say the words ... just a look should have been enough ... now it looked like Arnav was weighing her words against his KJ's ... whereas he should have been convinced of her innocence a long time back, when Payal corroborated the engagement story, NK corroborated the reason for Khushi winning Shyam's trust, and most of all, HIS OWN KNOWLEDGE of Shyam lusting after Khushi ... not the other way around! THAT should have been the clincher ... not Khushi's pleading.

      A bit disappointing ...

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    12. exactly dia

      khushi pleading just took the whole trust built.. it got worst for me because they had shown K almost dead and he getting back with is love and trust in that love ...

      NK was more supportive of K then him

      I really hope this wasn't just to give DB screen space and the bargain she did ..

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    13. Yes Dia this is getting too repetitive ... every time they are just not doing something right with the crucial moment ... I started watching this serial for its strong hero next comes chemistry... After 200th episode I am not seeing him much ... not together at least ... if they get something right ... they get something wrong at the same instance ... and the show is reaching 300th episodes ... its not a joke having to wait 100 epis and yet not see light.

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  5. Dia,

    yet to see epi.....BUT U WON THE WAGER ON HANGOUT......YIPEEEEE!!

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    1. Rekha aaj thappad nahi hota toh cvs ko juthe padte .... lol

      Aur yeh NK bhi nah .... hamesha dil jeet leta hai :D

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    2. Although not every happy with the last 10mins of the episode

      this post does make me feel better

      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3078546

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    3. Geetu,
      Bitiya's dialogue b4 slap was lame....
      I think all of us felt this.

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    4. Dia, sany opti and others pls make me feel better about this episode ,

      shwets where are you need your dandaa !!!

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    5. Aaru, the episode is worth it.... u get to see ASR slap VLR
      one slap for his Di and one slap for his Wife.....

      also he confessed that Bitiya is as important for him as Di...infront of the whole family....and Bitiya was surprised at that confession... so watch it....its good epi

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  6. SaRun offscreen pics

    http://starplus.startv.in/gallery.aspx?sid=124&aid=9215

    I love the one on bike :)

    http://starplus.startv.in/gallery.aspx?sid=124&aid=9215&page=12#more

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    1. Sama, i liked the bike one too....these two are magic together...just posing for pic, and its worth seeing

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    2. Nice pics Sama, Thanx.

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    3. Geeta there were around 50 photo-shoots with different actresses before SaRun was finalized for ArHi .... Magic ... oh absolutely!!

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    4. yes Sama PH was lucky to get the right combo...

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  7. THE LORD OF THE RINGS(Khushi): THE RETURN OF THE KING(ASR)

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  8. First response : Open mouthed, WOWEEE!
    Second response: I want to celebrate!- did too, by being extra nice to hubby- handed over the remote to him.
    Third response: WHAT WAS THAT?
    Ek hi epi main sab kuchh!
    Aur bas do thapad and get out? WT!!!


    Did they even run a proper promo for such an epic epi?
    And no 11 pm re-runs.
    What’s happening?

    Hey, hey I am not complaining.
    Now I can have a peaceful weekend!

    Loved :ASR’s dialogue before the thapad.

    Could have done without: Khushi’s aankhon mein dekho dialogue.He should’ve acted without her having to say that.

    Now having doubts on: ASR’s shatir dimag. Do thapad one each for Di and Khushi.
    What about kidnap and attempted murder? Serious crimes. ??? And you let him roam free?

    Seriously miffed about one thing only: PROMOOO! BOOHOOO! When will these guys learn?

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  9. Okay so i have been following your blog for many months now esp for the super comments and analysis that follow each episode.i am sooo sure there are so many more such people following it.and it feels so good to know that there are many people out there who love the show as much as i do.
    My story of IPKKND is pretty strange.I started watching it this april.A week before my exams,i happened to randomly watch one episode on tv(one where khushi and arnav go to khushi's parent's house)i loved the main leads a lot and saw some videos on youtube and then there was no stopping me.I spent 2 full days(no exaggeration here) watching every video of arnav and khushi i could catch hold of.I had a lot of catching up to do in terms of the story.and i didnt mind spending two days over it a week before my final sem exams.That has to show how much i LOVED the show.and shortly after,i found this blog on googling something related to the show and ever since i have been an ardent follower.Its almost a ritual to read the blog every single day.
    the reason i am writing all this down is today's episode which i loved soooooo much!esp arnav's slap for doing 'battameezi with his wife' i smiled all through the scene!arnav is such a hottie!
    anyway i will keep following this blog and am looking fwd to reading views on today's super awesome episode!
    Love the blog!
    -Reayana

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    1. hey Rea

      welcome to mad cafe .. and we are looking forward to read your view here !!

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    2. Welcome Reayana.....will love to have u around...do share your views as well......

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    3. welcome Reayana!! i tell you this cafe is as much an addiction as IPK ;)
      keep writing ur views here...

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    4. Nice to hear how you fell in love with IPK even though you seemed to have started watching it through the bad patches. Proves the magic is still there! HUGS and welcome!

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    5. Reayana hugs and welcome!!! hope to see you around.
      UJ

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    6. Thanks all :D
      well I am already an addict of this blog..i religiously follow it! would love to share views too! :)
      -Reayana

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    7. Hi welcome Reayana...a unique name...nice...

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    8. Welcome Reeayana, and join the club of ArHi addicts :)))

      You might be surprised to know that many people on this blog have similar stories and have also spent sleepless nights catching up with all the old episodes once they got hooked. Not me ... I'm smart - I've been following the show from day one :)))

      Join in with posting your views ... the more the merrier in this crazy virtual cafe of ours!

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    9. haha i wish i were that smart!
      thanks a lot rekha and dia :)
      -Reayana

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    10. "Not me ... I'm smart - I've been following the show from day one :)))"

      ROFL

      Salute Blog Queen .... Dia I realized (haila yahan bhi realization) all have a title each except you ... Aisa kyoun hota hai??

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  10. Good episode. The making of the next track........ payash in trouble and ofc di is going to be hard to convince. Anj's expressions when ASR slapped VLR felt like 'ye kya ho raha hai. stop this. my hubby hasn't really done anything. you are all blaming him for nothing.' if A had not stopped VLR from going to his di, di would have gladly opened her arms to her creepwa hubby. So khushi ki agnipariksha abhi baki hai ya rather Arhi ki agni pariksha baki hai.

    Jab do pyaar karne wale samne khade hote hai toe jubaan nahi bolti, ankhe bolti hai... and khushi's ankhe spoke of her innocence. Although ASR should not need any conformation from her eyes anymore, it should come only from his own heart.

    Too much has happened for ASR to take in. Now that VLR has been chucked out, once di is taken care of there will be more discussion amongst the family. Mami will confirm lots with NK. Arnav and khushi need to talk. Arnav's FBs yet to come from airport to coming back to RM.

    The thappad has laid the foundations for VLR to be nastier. The two most important people in ASR's life di and khushi - ASR is yet to realise that VLR has attempted to kill each of them. ASR can forgive shyam his own attempted murder but an attempt on di's or K's life.... let's see how CVs choose to bring out three attacks on di and ofc babuji as well. Khushi will let ASR know that it was VLR who tied her up and left her on the road.
    UJ

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    1. yes today it did lay out for future .. but lot things were incomplete..

      I hope ASR clears his action of throwing VRL out ..

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    2. UJ ... aap thik ho ! howz recovery coming along?

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    3. Sama haan much better now, thank you for asking.
      Aaru, Sabr karo sab hoga. A has to clear a lot of things including ILU and trust building while in captivity.

      First thing first though, will someone attend to Khushi's head wound? or the truth therapy clear it out for her?
      will ASR have a decent shower. I think Anj fainted because of the stench and it will be K fainting next.
      UJ

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    4. Hi UJ,

      Glad u are on the mend....

      The baniyan has far oulived its use.....ab sab RM vasi bimar padne wale hain

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    5. UJ good good :)

      K fainting ... A carrying her back to their room .... Hayeeeeee

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    6. Sama *SHIDDAT* to K faiting and A carrying her back. Honestly di has had eough of love and care and cushioned world. Can we have K soaking up the TLC for a while now so she feels ready for the next attack.
      UJ

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    7. UJ, rightly said ... lots of things need to be clarified still ... today was the just the start. I'm looking forward to the NK-Mami talk, I really hope they show NK talking in front of the entire family, barring Arnav and Anjali probably, and Khushi, of course ... he has to tell them what all Khushi went through to get information out of Creepwa. Icing on the cake would be if they actually recovered the pendrive and Khush's phone so that they could open it and see the evidence for themselves ... and have it proved beyond doubt. I do want that to happen ... but I wanted it only AFTER Arnav has already trusted Khushi enough to believe her.

      I think the reason for things coming out this way is that Arnav's role in the whole thing has not yet come out at all ... the fact that he KNEW Shyam's true colors and did nothing about it for so long ... marrying Khushi doesn't really count as it was of no use whatsoever, except to put her even more in Snakewa's way. So in a way he is as culpable as she was, in this whole kaand. And he needs to realise that.

      Girls, DB's contract has kicked in ... all the carrying lovingly to room and tucking in will be Arnav for his blessed Di ... RMvaasis seem to have forgotten the guy who got kidnapped and the girl who risked her life to save him, including two life-threatening events in the last few hours! IDIOTSSSS!!!!

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    8. Forgot ... UJ, hope you're feeling better now!!!

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    9. Dia : DB did mention that she was missing the Arnav-Anjali bond shown earlier....so all this just to show that.....why does she forget that her chote is married now... this is against DB not anjali.....

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    10. I refuse it to be DB .... PH is confident about their own creation and this is what it was suppose to be in first place .... if an actress with profile as DB could tweak circumstance to her liking .... they really shouldn't be in business for long

      "who the *&^* wants to see Di going all hysterical, for Gods' sakes?!!! Show us the guy who just came back home after fifteen days in captivity, show us the girl who risked her life to save him ... who the heck is interested in Di and her hysterics??!!!" absolutely or show these two taking care of Di together

      Like Reayana got hooked during April ... worst phase at its peak starting to move towards its end .... yet she is hooked ... ArHi it is !!!

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    11. Cant wait for the phase to end..I liked the phase as long as arnav wasnt kidnapped! but now is gng to more than make up for it.I remember the first scene of theirs that i saw.she cries and bids farewell to everyone at RM and he says 'theek hai.nai jaate'.that was so cute and lil did i know their magic would work the way it did on me someday

      -Reayana

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    12. Sama, 2-3 points made me feel its DB...first she mentioned in her pre-decision interview that she was 99% sure of leaving, and if PH loves her then she wud decide otherwise....and post decision interview she said she was missing the arnav-anjali bond a lot....so i connected it that way.....

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  11. the two fataaakkkk's relieved me so much...:))dnt know how this weekend wud have passed had they not happened today...
    the "meri patni se badtamizi krne ke liye" dialogue was too good and "bas ek baar meri aankhon mein dekhiye Arnavji" was equally bad - out of place for Arhi...

    i am happy Arhi marriage secret is still a secret between them... neither let it out...not even by mistake....

    payaash's tough times ahead...
    mami must be supportive of gupta sisters now(may be silently)...bubbly track ka kuch to fayda hona chahiye...

    also family go down the memory lane one by one - they all knew guptas had a PG named Shyam...who then got engaged to khushi - and then engagement broke...isshmart mami ki dimaag ki batti to jalni chahiye - she pointed out shyam's absence from RM long back...

    i have three questions now...
    one, how will Arhi marriage secret come out now that Arhi love and care for each other is so open...so clear to all...???
    two, how Arhi are gonna be reminded of 'six month contract' now that their love is absolutely transparent to the other...??
    three, how family will believe khushi now that she dnt have any proof...???(i feel they dnt need any proof - k's life is like an open book to them since past one year - all they have to do is think peacefully)

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    1. I read somewhere that due to anjali and arnav's now tensed equation,Khushi chooses to walk out of RM as the six month period comes to an end without confessing her love to arnav.
      I am praying thats wrong!i want Arhi together!!
      But again i also saw a video that said the reason shyam is out of the pic is so tht the viewers can now see the arhi romance! :D
      -Reayana

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    2. Reayana, remember that dialogue on the roadside, when ASR said that its hard to give up the name, the money and the status that comes by being with a Raizada....only a pagal will let go of it....that has to come into place sometime.....so bitiya will leave shantivan, just for Di....stating that Di more important then everything... and Di will get her back in Bitwa's life....

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    3. Ayesha marriage secret will come out coz of VLR. he will let the cat out coz he is the only one who knows it was a frced marriage other than Arhi. He will probably reveal it to Anji in an attempt to win her trust back.
      Khushi will probably walk out of RM due to di or may be coz di wants VLR to come back home. Rakhi is coming and that may be what she asks for rakhi, for A to bring Creepwa back to RM.
      Proof will be needed for Anji whether it is physical evidence or VLR confessing in a confrontation. It will robably be another confrontation between Arhi and VLR witnessed by Anji.
      Although the other thought doing rounds in my mind is that it's VLR's daughter who will get him entry back to RM and leading also to his demise. (ravana's first born).

      Reayana K leaving might not be a bad thing. We will then get to see A's junoon in bringing K back along with his RTR.
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    4. Won't it be a better plot if VLR reveals it to Guptas??

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    5. Exactly! this time around,we may not want di to brng her back.our hero is gonna do it.infact it will be nice to see him woo her!
      and i would really wanna see them renew their vows after the 6 month period..again alone..but with the pheras and arnav meaning every word(i think i saw a similar video of barun in baat humari pakki hai)
      -Reayana

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    6. K leaving or staying at RM makes no difference now...
      we will get Arhi moments and mind blowing Rabba ve's either way...hope so...*SHIDDAT*
      please DM grant this...

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    7. Geetu,

      Let Khushi walk off head held high, say Arnavji, I only wnated that u not to think badly of me. blah blah.....I wnat nothing else....then the penny drops for ASR...of the pagal in his life

      I DON"T want DI bringing back Kh in A's life.That idiot had better do something for a change

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    8. Reayana that would be nice for Arhi to renew vows although I would like to see a proper wedding - I want K to hve her dream wedding..... Althgouh I wouldn't mind if A keep a vrat with K on Teej and renew their vows secretly but once their marriage ka truth is out infront of all the family decides to get them married properly again.

      I am in two minds now. I surely want K to have her dream wedding but I also want A to keep vrat with K on Teej and renew their vows on this auspicious day.
      UJ

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    9. yaa arnav fasting for his lady love would be so damn cute!i so hope that happens!!! :D
      -Reayana

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    10. Rekha i dont have much hopes from that idiot.... if Di says she feels hurt when she sees KKG around, then KKG will defo leave...and ASR will give her up for DI...

      one thing i want right now is for KKG to ask ASR once everything is settled bt what is to be done now, since she has proven her innocence, should she go back to GH.... i want to see his reaction to this....

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    11. Geeta .... what would you like in your 'muh' .... I would love it!!

      Reayana ASR has been shown to fast earlier too ... on rakhi he does that along with his Di... so it will be totally in character.

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    12. OMG!he does fast?wow one of the drawbacks of starting to watch the serial late! now he ought to fast fr khushi too :P and Geetanjali i would love to see his reaction too!
      -Reayana

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    13. No worries Reayana .... anything you need on storyline ... you will get it in a jiffy here @R&R :D

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    14. Oh Sama....i love rabdi and basundi........dono chalegaa :P

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  12. Kurukshetra war is looming heavily on the horizon now. Today was just a tester. Arnav ka last dialogue - di ki prarthanao ka shukar karo ki mai tumhe aise hi chod raha hu, but creepwa will return with vengeance. Pehle khushi ne choda phir arnav chod raha hai. when will these people unedrstand musibat ko aise hi nahi chodte hai.

    That is exactly what yudhishthri did, kept putting off the war. They forgave duryodhan each time lakshagraha, drupadi vastra haran, vanvass and it was a cumulative effect of everything that led to kurukshetra. Krishna gaye the shantidhoot ban ke hastinapur. he also warned of the effects of the war. Arnav has done the same today. Himmat toe maine abhi dikhai nahi hai per jis din himmat dikhaunga......... So Mr Creepwa you have been warned.

    Will babuji play Amba's role. Amba was brought to war only to get rid of Bhishma. Here amba (babuji) will confirm VLR's deceit for Anj. Also confirm how he saw anj and shyam in the temple and how VLR said bhagwan ne do haath diye hai toe dono ka haath pakad ke rakhenge for Anj and Khushi.

    And while all the evidence gathering happens, looking forward to some tender Arhi moments as well. Khushi is battered and she deserves and needs A's TLC to gather herself again.
    UJ

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    1. UJ...happy to see u back with good health...may u get best from better soon...
      i am waiting for babuji to return soon...cause of his illness is something no one knows except creep and himself...not even single person in gupta family...

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  13. " it was never actually explained why Arnav made his decision."...
    Dia...not only this there are few other things unexplained from bitwa's side...am waiting eagerly for some FBs...

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  14. rama rama, kya yeh drama?! :S Godd..I was sooo bored throughout the ffirst part of the epi.. I swear I tried not to remember ekta kapoor's KSBKBT series..

    the last 2-3 mins was the only part totally and completely worth it! Arnav - a man personifying "action speaks louder than words" ... two thappads..one collar pakdoing and shyam is out of the house.. something which he should have done months ago.. nevertheless, its never too late..straight and to the point..no idhar udhar ki baatein, no pleading.. nothing.. two thappads.. one, for hurting his di..and the second, for hurting his beloved wife..and since both of them are THE most imp persons in his life (ah..that felt music to my ears..and I echoed khushi's smile) ..Shyam made a huge mistake by hurting them both..no, scratch that..he actually committed a crime in ASR's world.. the guy who would beat black and blue a man who would dare to just say something to khushi..and wouldn't stop short of killing the person who touched khushi..how could he stand silently when he heard her being butchered left, right and center, vocally?! Especially when he KNOWS that's not true at all.. I know this show is about arnav and anjali's envious relation and all that.. but somehow, for me, ArHi equation has stood above everything else.. :)

    Payal was brilliant today..loved her! But I somehow wanted much, much more wrt emotions from khushi/sanaya.. or maybe, they wanted to show that she was so numb with all the accusations being thrown at her...that she was incapable of reacting more.. and yes, her dialogue to arnav "humare aankhon mein dekhiye" was an absolute misfit.. didn't like it one bit..the second part would have been a lot better if that dialogue was cut out..

    after a long, long time.. a weekend that's going to make me rest in peace.. :)

    SN - Abhaas, u are brilliant!! and I am going to miss u a lot.. :(

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    1. The arhi equation stands way above for me too!i would hav been so disappointed had he not slapped him the second time around!i love it when he addresses her as 'meri patni'..music to the ears!i was smiling all through..weekend will surely be peaceful! :)
      -Reayana

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    2. same here.....was watching the havan wala scenes last nite....the way he tells NK to wait for the car and tells Bitiya to come with him...haayyeeee..sadda haq....

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  15. zor ka jhatka zoro se laga..thats what I felt during two slaps...My faltoo prediction is that KKG will walk out of RM after 6 months contract. She will feel humiliated by the accusations and if Di looses her baby, she will feel super guilty about everything that happened. And since the contract secret is between Arhi only, she will walk out and ASR will not be able to give any reasoning. ASR's 6 month dhamki will come to haunt him big time. Then ASR's RTR will start, he will try to convince her to come back, gather all evidence against Shyam to restore his wife's honor. And the RTR will be complete when he will accept to everyone that how he forced a contract marriage, but now he wants a proper marriage. I guess that to gather evidence against shayam, ASR may bring him back to house as well. For his Di's condition to stabilize, he will bring Shyam back but with the intention of trapping him. Thats why Abhaas is on a break after this. May be around Rakhi, this will be ASR's gift to his beloved Di. And in the middle of all this, his trips to GH will continue..

    Sukhi

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  16. Can some one give me the link to the last part of todays episode ??

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    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNtZND4pMR8&feature=share
      not a very good print but the part worth watching.


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTi7TE3dos
      awesome print.the entire second half

      -Reayana

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    2. thanks Reayana ... was about to post it :)

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  17. just saw the episode - finally the thappad!!!

    have not read through all your comments but the feeling I get is you guys seem upset with the last part of the epi - well to me that was best - it was the first part which was unnecessarily long drawn - NK and Payal were fine - succinct and said the needful - it was TF who just went on and on - i was getting irritated at ODB not reacting!! - then it hit me:

    see ODB could not react coz of his weeping sister (the center of his universe!) - that's why he tried to forestall the topic - will discuss this later, he said.

    Then he was about to react when TF was talking nonsense about ODG - again he stopped coz of DI dearest!!

    finally - ODG pleading her case - no i did not feel bad about it - my reason being - it was not a pleading - it was, as we have been saying all along - her word against anyone elses! Plus it was him believing her - just her word - no proof required - something he should have done earlier but had not - it was the acceptance - the trust he should have shown earlier, coming to rest now (am not so good with words but hope you guys get what i am trying to say) - So in short TF had to go the complete length - say the foulest things for ODB to say the best - 'the two most important people in my life and you dared to harm them!!"

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  18. Kya thappad maara ASR ne!!!! Yea Khushi need not have begged him to look and all but over all it was a nice episode...
    When the whole Payal thing was going on..I was urging A ash to speak up and tell everyone that Payal actually refused to marry him!!but of course that didn't happen!!!!
    What made me happy???ASR is finally back!! That dialogue and the thappad were well worth the wait!!!

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  19. I agree that the RMvasis have forgotten that ODB is diabetic and had been held prisoner for over 15 days AND that ODG risked her life to get him back (ok, to be fair they don't know the details of all the dishum dishum!) but still - they know the bare minimum - YET they are all worried about Anji? - WT? BUT to me - that was expected:

    see - Anji has always been the darling of the family - the one person the whole family considers the closest friend(mami, nani, akash and of course ODB) - right from the beginning she has been the nucleus who held the family together -under one roof (remember all the times she played peace maker between nani & mami, mami & akash, nani & ODB) - so in short - she is a central character here and i really don't think DB's fight with the CVs changed that equation - after all this whole drama happened coz of Di and trying to save the fragile lady from more harm - both from the ODG & ODB's side. So yes the reactions had to be based keeping her in mind - (also keeping this fact in mind, ODB's acceptance of trust and love for his wife in front of all becomes even more important and meaningful!)

    I also agree that Drama abhi baki hai meray dost - after all this is a daily soap - so a lot of questions will be answered in the coming episode - Anji's disbelief in anything but her husband - more questions from Akash (hopefully he will find his voice!), Mami and Nani - Some tension between Payash, Joining of dots by all (in terms of KKG's engagement, breakup, TF's frequent absence etc etc)

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    1. Joining dots .... I wonder if cvs remember what dots they left in first place ... but then they give us beautiful scenes with apt FBs ... which makes me believe they will join them one by one.

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  20. something to feel good ...flashback ...vm on nainital trip..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAjK60a9Wk8

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  21. Dia,

    THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE.
    I am back with one more really serious problem!

    Why do I feel like this is exactly what Shyam wanted!
    He was outright denying having any connection with Khushi and about the engagement and mud-slinging Khushi to get Saale Saab to react?

    He was not blind in confidence. He was not exactly cornered. He had the time to plan this out much earlier. Maybe, the day the codicil was revealed.

    He wanted this reaction from Arnav, he knew that ASR will be outraged when it comes to Khushi being besmirched and chhote reacted exactly as predicted. That is why he stopped ASR and DRAGGED him back into the argument.

    Because THERE IS NO WAY SHYAM WOULD’VE OVERLOOKED THE FACT THAT ASR KNOWS ABOUT HIM AND KHUSHI AND THAT IS WHAT LED TO THE WEDDING AND HIS WHOLE MONEY MUSEEBAT. Yet he went in the opposite direction, accusing Khushi, begging ASR to react.
    Learn, bitwa, learn - to control your temper.

    Why do I get this feeling there will be a part 2 to this very soon. Picture abhi baaki hai.

    Remember the promo.
    There Shyam said you ‘phasa’ofied me in answer to Khushi’s engagement dialogue.
    Neither was played today at that moment.Shyam never once said she entrapped him, he outright denied having any feelings from his side!
    Daal mein kuchh kaala hai……….
    IS SHYAM REALLY THIS SMART?

    What is Shyam trying to achieve here?
    Complete rift between siblings so he can hog Anjali’s share?

    There goes all hopes for a sane weekend.
    Hoping and praying for a busy weekend.
    Nahi toh Siberia hi jaana padega.

    Unrelated:
    Headlines today: Delhi has first showers.
    CVs, did U hear? Now what are you waiting for?
    Get that rain hug on before the monsoon gets over!
    But solve this mess first, please!

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    1. Aaah how about bitiya just standing clueless at poolside unaware that bitwa is watching her ... it starts raining ... still bitiya does not move ... bitwa comes and taps her ... she turns ... tears in her eyes ... this time HE gets his arms around first to hug her!!!

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    2. su, your question lights my batti..

      if ASR did shout out to everyone that he knew of the creep's bewafai, he would seriously break anjali's heart.. as di trusts her chotte too much, and him hiding such a matter will of course be a huge thing to anjali..

      hence ASR tried to use as little words as possible, and acted like he threw out shyam only based on his wife's words. the scene has not ended, so i hope there is more!

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    3. 'acted like he threw out shyam only based on his wife's words'

      Yes. Now do you understand the implications?

      ASR said "enough" and was taking Anjali to the room.
      Shyam said,"No. I want this to be cleared."
      When Anjali looks at this scene she sees her pati who wants to prove his innocence.

      What happens next?
      Shyam tries to prove his point, Khushi tears up and ASR slaps him and throws him out.

      Shyam has played everyone beautifully here.
      He cornered Khushi into pleading.
      That got him the response he wanted from ASR.
      And Anjali is left with the belief was Chhote was being unfair."Chance hi nahi diya mere pati parmeshwar ko!"
      Now Chhap gayi this baat in Anjali's brain. She feels Khushi has played everyone including Chhote!

      This is going to be a huge turning point in bro- sis relationship.
      Anjali is going to believe that ASR is blinded by Khushi's love. Hence his decisions are not fair any more.

      ISN'T THIS WHAT SHYAM WANTED?

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    4. Sama, SHIDDAT to your rain hug! I really want this to happen.

      :Ananya

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    5. su,
      anjali thinking that chote is blinded by his wife does not help shyam's aim of world domination err raizada money.

      if anjali thinks her husband is right, she can always leave and live with her husband.. whether arnav allows her or not.

      so, personally, i dont think that is what shyam wanted.

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  22. Dia,

    You did not like that part - *sigh*

    When did Krishna recite the Bhagvad Gita?
    Did he not know earlier itself that Arjuna would face the duvidha?
    Did he preempt it or wait for Arjuna to approach him?
    Wait for it the scene will continue to play out.


    "Aap humse ek baar pooch toh lete lekin aapko shaadi kane ki JALDI thi
    Aur tumse jyaada main KHUD pe vishwaas karta hoon
    Jo DEKHA jo suna uspe vishwaas hai
    maine apne kaanon se suna hai tumhe Shyam se kehte hue ki woh meri Di ko chhod kyun nahi deta
    Aur apni AANKHON se dekha hai tum dono ko ek saath..ek doosre ki baahon main

    Chap gaya hai mere dimaag main woh pal"

    "Arnavji humaari AANKHON main gaur se DEKHIYE aur KHUD faisla keejiyye..

    "Main naahi tumhe apni patni maanoonga aur naa hi tumhe patni ka darjaa doonga"

    "..Aur doosra meri patni ki beyizzati karne ke liye"

    Beech raaste se mandir tak ka safar!

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    1. Sandy - I don't know how you do it but you do it so well - have been saying the same thing for the past half hour (3 posts!) - but you said it so well -

      exactly - the bitya dialogues were required - they were a continuation of the earlier scenes and the perfect answer to all her statements then - what he should have done then - he did now - complete trust in her irrespective of what proof existed or not!

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    2. oh - and the only thing i did not like - not the bitya dialogue - but the fact that she kept looking down with tears in her eyes while TF spoke (in the beginning) - i would have preferred her to look him in the eye - this bechari look is what i cant stand

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    3. Sandy ... Hugs !! I came up with my own explanation to that dialogue ... of course yours make perfect sense :D

      I could relate more to what followed during and after the Thappads

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    4. Mona,

      Complete trust in her toh tha - that is why ASR kept quiet. There were times in today's epi when he almost jumped in but heheld himself back. Until she signalled to him saying "I'm done. I have done my best. Now it is all upto you."

      What happened to Arnav through out this slam fest Khushi is having had to watch everyone blame Khushi just like he did but now while witnessing and hearing the entire story. Hearing the reasons behind her past statements and actions. Til til maraa hogaa woh (not being able to do anything for the girl he loved, the only way to punish himself was stand there and feel each insult hurled at her hurt him manifold). Left upto him he would have run in grabbed her in his arms, silenced everyone and just taken off with her. But his Di needed his support and the family had to see the extent of the slur on Khushi before they could start appreciating how much she has given of herself. You wait for it. That ASR tune made me jump up in glee and I just knew I was getting a chacha waala scene - indicating one thing and doing just the opposite :)

      Oh and boy was I glad Shyam when he was at it got in how small girls dream big (indiretly grouping Mami in that bucket), Khushi wanting to harm ASR, Khushi trapping ASR - the whole works. my smile was a wide long. Shyam ki jab next dhulaai hogi naa I tell u bahut buri tarah se pitegaa woh. And it was needed also because of teh shots of the end - Notice when Khushi speaks ASR hears and when Shyam speaks Anjali is shown.)aapki galti ki sazaa saale saaheb ko chukaani padegi aur hum unse shukwaake rahenge)

      How many of you wanted a repeat of marriage but with Arnav facing the music - get ready gals Mon it shall start. ANd khushi will have to stay silent watching him relive it again because she was to begin but he would take it to a close.

      "Aapki galti ki sazaa saale saahab ko chukaani padegi"

      Khushi today saisd "Dekhkar andekha humne kiya, Jaankar anjaan hum bane...."

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    5. Monu,

      Had she looked TF in the eye, he would have immediately known something was wrong and tried to damage control. The whole point was to let him think Arnav will not support Khushi when it comes to it though she knew he definitely would.

      "Hum apne pati ke liye aur bhi gir sakte hain..." - to some effect

      Sama,
      When that ASR

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    6. oh yes of course complete trust tha - thats why ODB was silent for so long - completely agree - what i meant earlier was that the complete trust played out as part two of earlier scenes (airport - roadside fight) - no proofs required - just her word and the deal was done - so yes am in complete agreement with you :D

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    7. "Shyam ki jab next dhulaai hogi naa I tell u bahut buri tarah se pitegaa woh." Muaaaaaaah

      ME ... SHIDDAT

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    8. Sandy,

      Sama,
      When that ASR .... ???

      Complete karo

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    9. Samzz

      too excited :P

      ASR tune started and he walked I knew woh dikhaayega kuch aur karegaa kuch aur..oopar bhi wahi likha

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    10. Dia,

      Adding to the above thought, in the fight against Jayadratha, when did Krishna cast the illusion, when he knew Arjun was close to losing. ANd when did he he blaze it away with the Sudarshana Chakra -the blazing light of truth; when the enemy was lulled into temporary feeling of vistory and Krishna knew they were close by and Arjuna was ready for the kill. (while seeing the dialogue below, saw NK in the frame and realized this)

      Just realized one thing. When the thappad part is about to begin, Khushi for the first time turns to Arnav and tells him "Koi saboot nahi hai joh yeh sabit kar sake ki kya sach hai aur kya jhoot"

      .."Baat sach ya jhoot ki nahi hai, baat vishwaas ki hai.."

      "Khushi tumne yeh kya kar diya, mujhe is vishwaas pe vishwaas dilaa diya.."

      SN: Weekend is gonnaa be spent happily indulging in Tue to Fri epis :D

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    11. Sandy another thing I noticed is ... all through Shyaam accusing Khushi session ... Anjali was constantly looking at Khushi not her husband ... and it was not a look of disbelieve or mistrust ... Am I right?? ... if so how will that play out. or was she too numb??

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    12. Mona, I loved ur post....becos I for one did not have any problem with why Khushi made that plea.....there is no shame in that....In fact, that was the only aim why she acted in this manner.....she knew she had been cornered in this fight and she asked the one person she counts her own irrespective of their hisory

      If anything, it only proves the actions of the pagal....defenceless yet raging for battle against the wrongdoer.....

      My only question....why did Arnav wait for all of this to play out instead of shortening the agony...

      It has been partially answered by my sister of the heart....but Sandy, i have to ask, why should Arnav, arrogate to himself that role? He is not blemishless in this drama....he held back a secret from his sister just as Khushi did..

      Was Khushi alone in the dock becos Arnav joining her would have besmirched Khushi further...If so, i don't buy that....when will Arnav own up his part....in this drama going play out until all aspects are out in the open

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    13. Sandy,
      Your explanation of that scene is PERFECT! I love the way you completed the scenes with dialogues. Magic!

      I am not having problem with ASR waiting to hear that dialogue before reacting. It was the way Khushi said it.
      As if she was not convinced about his atoot vishwas in her.(After Arhipathy and all.)
      But since she went through something totally unexpected, I guess she was broken and needed his support.

      Also wondered if this shows that though bitwa will never MU his wife again, may be bitiya is unaware that patidev has long given up on proof. He has accepted her innocence without any evidence.

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    14. Rekha - thanks
      As to why ODB 'why did Arnav wait for all of this to play out instead of shortening the agony' - well two points:

      1) this is a daily soap - so they need the drama to be built up! (had it been a movie - he would have reacted 15 minutes ago)

      2) ODB had to wait till TF was at his worst - the whole - "these two people mean the world to me" type dialogue would have the desired impact only once TF had had his filthy say!

      Someone here also added that ODB should have spoken about his bit too - i don't think so - not yet - See his bit (as in his intentions) will never be questioned buy his family (and rightfully so, he has always been there for the family - KKG & TF were new entrants) - So him speaking up now would not have made sense - let ODG rest her case - ASR give the verdict (based on pure trust!) and then when the family is calmer ASR gives his parts - truly in character - him pleading before his family (before he threw out TF) would have been completely out of character for ASR

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  23. on rewatch - what i liked (apart from the thappad ki gunj of course!)

    - TF really must have been a damned good lawyer -he had arguments for everything - best ones - why was payal silent thus far?, why was Akash not aware of the 'alleged engagement'? - Payal's weak point!

    - He talked about small town (chotay ghar ki ladkiyan) dreams that the sisters had and hence entrapped the boys of the family - very right dialogues for mami and nani - they both reacted to this one dialogue (no doubt the reasons will come out later - some blast from the past kind of thing)


    - the only truth he uttered was done so well that it became a weak point for the Gupta - "you kept silent coz it would put your grand wedding in jeopardy!" - well that was partially true - remember Garima was all worried about telling Anji - and loosing the rishta for her daughter (payal had however said go ahead KKG!)
    Well done TF - good lawyer-giri skills + creepwa dimagh = a hateful villain well worth his salt!

    - Finally the final dialogues by ODB - very reminiscent of the thappads he gave that other guy in the beginning - very ASR style!

    - story ahead - very open - will Akash believe in KKG? will he be upset with his wife - how will the rest react?

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    1. 'TF really must have been a damned good lawyer'

      Sometimes I wonder why he does not do what he does best- lawyeri- he wil end up a millionare in no time!
      All his shortcuts are getting him nowhere.

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  24. New tweet .... ROFL

    Akshay Dogra ?@cupalwaysfull
    Firstly, akaash wanted to slap shyam but he was more concerned for anjali... She's the one who's life just changed forever...

    Secondly, there's no "security", they were all on leave!! Then, how could akaash call for security... *facepalm*... Sheesh!

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    1. haha - Akash is really funny - they should give the guy more scenes and dialogue - heck he can write his own and am pretty sure he will write witty ones!

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    2. I hope so too ... at least now ... his wife has such a thing about his beloved Di a secret... A man should speak up

      his newest:
      Akshay Dogra ?@cupalwaysfull
      Seriously people i cant do anything else but do my job... I portray akaash as he is put on paper.. Cut the poor guy some slack :)

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    3. Oh I totally missed the wife butchering part

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  25. My two cents on the last scene:


    Like many here, K pleading with A to believe her inspite of having no proof and A's delayed reaction in the form of the two thappads did not sit well with me either but on re-watch of the scene I get what they were trying to drive at.


    K has only witnessed A's disbelief in her words so far. He left her standing at the airport because she did not have proof for her innocence. At that time he had accused her of trying to ruin his Di's life. It was a similar situation today, only worse. She had to admit that she had told Shyam she wanted to ruin Arnav. So in his eyes she seemed to not only want his Di's life ruined but also his. Knowing how Arnav does not believe in anything other than hard proof, Khushi had no choice but to plead with him to look into her eyes and trust her. She cared enough for their relationship to want to save it.


    Now why did Arnav not act immediately on hearing Shyam slander her in front of his family? He knew K was telling the truth. Any doubts he may have had got wiped away in her selfless act of trying to save him. The outpourings of testimony from NK and Payal only fortified what he already knew. Arnav so desperately wanted to hasten that thappad but he cared enough for his Di to hold back his anger. He knew that his Di was barely holding up as her castle kept crumbling around her. He couldn't act in a manner which will crush her completely. Encouraged by his silence Shyam kept pushing up the bar and the dam had to break. He remained silent and thought his K was strong and can withstand the storm around her but those hauntingly agonised and pleading eyes did him in. He knew he had waited long enough and let the poor girl pay the price for someone else's sins. So he had to slap that creep even if it meant hurting his Di.


    Although Arnav told Shyam that Di and Khushi are the two most important women in his life, his action today actually showed that Khushi's place is even above his Di. Yes, he did hesitate a bit at first because of his strong bond with Di and the fact that she was pregnant, fragile and had to hear and digest so much in such a short time but then there is only so much he can take for his Di. He had to defend his wife's honour. I hope he does and tells the rest of the family his own failings. Di having fainted may not be aware of the entire truth till much later.


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    1. Opti,
      Your take is PERFECT.
      He believed her all through out.
      He kept silent because there was no proof for rest of the family. No one had any evidence and this battle of wits was too much on Di. He offered to take up all this drama later.

      Only point I want to make here is:

      'Encouraged by his silence Shyam kept pushing up the bar'

      And ASR lost his cool and reacted.
      Is this what Shyam wanted when he dragged him back into the argument?

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  26. Coming back with some thoughts after re-watching ...

    I think what has got me most dissatisfied is that I was expecting Shyam to expose himself somehow through his lies ... either that or Arnav to catch him in his lies ... and thus Shyam to be exposed in front of all very clearly.

    Now THAT did not happen. While I was happy that Arnav believed Khushi's word over the Snake's, but it leaves a lot up in the air in terms of the family. Sure Arnav believed Khushi, but the truth is still not out beyond any doubt. Everyone still has doubts about Khushi, did Arnav make the right decision etc., etc. Now unless Arnav comes back and explains that he knew Shyam was lying at a particular point, and hence he knew that Khushi was telling the truth all along, the family is not going to be convinced.

    Maybe Arnav will do that once Di is safely tucked away , maybe he felt that Di had had enough shocks for the day ... maybe he also needs to TALK to Khushi (SHIDDAT) and get all the details as to what happened in his absence and put the entire story together. NK, Mami, Arnav and Khushi need to have one big conference where they four put the entire story together, and the others - Akash, Nani and Payal listen ... Payal already put in her contribution - she can expand on it. Thus the whole family gets the entire story.

    If this was a real family, that's what they would do. Since it's IPK ... hmmm ...

    Also, like I said in the main post, Arnav's own role in the whole drama is not beyond reproach either. If Khushi and the Guptas kept quiet for Di's sake, Arnav did the same ... worse, he played God both with his Di and with an innocent girl's life. Today he kicked Shyam out of RM, but shouldn't the decision have been Di's? And for what did he kick Shyam out? For playing with Di's life, or for being Arnav's kidnapper? If for the latter, Arnav was justfied ... for the former, like it or not, Di has to make that decision. No matter how loving and protective her brother is, he cannot take that decision for her. So Shyam being a slimeball and getting engaged to Khushi should have come out more clearly for Arnav to be justified in throwing Shyam out.

    I would have LOVED for Payal to be clever and say - 'yes, call Buaji, and ask her for the pictures, we will show them to you,' and Shyam to slip up and say 'there were no pictures taken that night, you're lying,' ... or some such thing.

    Will add more tomorrow after I sort my thoughts out :)

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    1. Dia - yes ODB played God - then, when he decided not to tell his sister and marry ODG and now when he threw out the slime-ball - yes - he played God/judge jury and executioner! - he was very much in character - he was ASR the guy who wrote his own destiny.

      and two important reasons for doing so -
      1) he believes his wife - proof or no proof - her word was enough
      2) if they all sit down and discuss like a normal family - if they actually look at the proof etc - then of course there is no scope for TF - but then how will the story progress? - they have to leave some doubt somewhere - for the sake of the future tracks, somethings will have to be left open-ended.

      the most important point for now - ODB believe in his wife (irrespective of whether his family does so or not) and nothing can come between them anymore!

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    2. Dia,
      Like u, i am not agreeing to only one thing....and i will keep badgering Opti/Sandy/anyone here to give me the answers.....

      Why did Arnav not own up to his part in this drama.....jahan itna Khushi ne sun liya....woh baki bhi sun leti......Kyun nahin bola....I am ready to accept that he may not have wanted to say this before Shyam but he has to say before the others....

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    3. I fully agree with you Rekha. Arnav has to admit to what he did to Khushi under the misconception that she was having an affair with Shyam. He has to recount the terrace scene and tell everyone why he had forcefully married her. He had earlier avoided admitting to Aakash that he was responsible for the stalling of Payal's first wedding. It is high time the entire family comes to know that it was his actions which have affected the Gupta Sisters and not the other way around. For this to play out I want Mami to accuse the girls of breaking up the Raizada family. That should be trigger enough to restore the honour of these girls which he had shattered knowingly or unknowingly. When he recounts each and every incident I want him to go through the pain K went through. It has to be an agonising confession of all his guilt.


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    4. Dia, Rekha,
      Go through Opti's post right above.
      She along with Sandy have explained the last scene well.
      Look at it this way. It is not that ASR took that long to react. It is just that he didn't expect Khushi to break down like that. He thought she knew he'd trust her no matter what.
      Seeing those tears broke his calm and he reacted for her. At that moment he forgot his Di.

      Dia,
      'I was expecting Shyam to expose himself somehow through his lies':

      I beg you.PLEASE DON'T TAKE SHYAM FOR GRANTED.
      For all you know, this is how he had written the script for this part and everyone behaved as expected.

      Rekha,
      "Why did Arnav not own up to his part in this drama":

      Because he knew VLR was lying through his teeth!
      It was so obvious.
      He offered to continue all this drama later, when he could've called the Guptas and even their neighbours to prove that Shyam had lived there. Then he could've told them about the terrace scene too. VLR didn't give him that chance.
      This is what he denied him by getting himself thrown out.
      He made ASR behave like it was AUTOCRATIC rule. See how Nani and even Akash winced at his decision.

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    5. I meant Opti's post right above Dia's post!

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    6. Again, I feel this strongly.

      If Anjali was blind earlier, now she is totally brain washed.
      She will never trust Khushi and Chhote is blinded now in his love. That is how expertly Shyam argued his case so far. All for the benefit of Anjali. What remains to be seen is if he will be able to follow it up with further lies.

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    7. Su,

      for a while, me dimwit could not understand what u r trying to say.......
      I read ur earlier post and today's to get what u r saying....
      U r saying that VLR did all this to drive a wedge between the siblings....He did this once he knew that he has no chance with ASR_Khushi joining hands......SU.....u r perhaps the only one....who has read his actions minutely.....many of us have been in the ASR la-la-land

      This aspect will become apparent once Anji behaves as u have predicted......Seen in this light, Arnav tried to minimise the damage by speaking less but Khushi's tears made him play right into VLR's hands....Am i right?

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    8. Hey Su

      Agree with you that TF has succeeded in doing the impossible - planting a wedge in the sis-bro relationship! - something that all their past experiences could not achieve - yes - but was this what he wanted from the beginning - i don't think so - his motives were very very clear- he wanted money and ODG!

      Once he was cornered - he played everyone very well - said just the right things to get them worked up - leading to a verdict that was not based on "guilty beyond a vestige of doubt" (from Anjali's POA) - therefore, it opens up the possibility of his coming back at some point using Anjali and her weakness for her husband, child and a normal family!

      for now - she will not trust ODG at all - she will think her brother has lost it, is so smitten and blinded by his wife - (irony galore!) - that he does not trust his own BIL! - now the story gets really interesting - with ODG & B on one side and Di on the other - very different from the other soaps where the hero's sister (or bua if an older generation is involved!) is always the bad person for no reason - her the reason for her mistrusting ODG is well explained

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    9. Rekha,

      'He did this once he knew that he has no chance with ASR_Khushi joining hands.'- Now you got it!
      Like Jaya did in my second post today.

      *hugs* You took the trouble to go back and read yesterday's post. I am not sure when the deception started. But giving the CDs to Anjali- was that a dumb move or a smart one? You can read it either way.
      I'll repeat what I said yesterday.

      "He played into her hands beautifully in the first half.
      In the second half, he tied her up on the road and played'come get me if you can!'"

      That action of tying her up and leaving her fate to chance also makes more sense now if he had intended for all this to happen.

      Which is why I wonder again, "IS SHYAM REALLY THIS SMART?"


      Mona,
      'was this what he wanted from the beginning - i don't think so - his motives were very very clear- he wanted money and ODG!'

      You are right. Those were his motives. If he cannot get the girl, he'll get the money at least. And he knows he cannot get the girl with ASR's MU anymore. That MU is not there anymore. How about getting Anjali to hate and mistrust Khushi so much that she will deliver an ultimatum in Chhote's best interest.Then he can get the girl also out of RM.
      He can play Anjali like a fiddle!
      Let us see how he plays this further.

      And *huggggggs* for this: 'the reason for her mistrusting ODG is well explained'
      I hope no one will point fingers at how Anji blindly trusted her husband again.
      THIS IS THE STRENGTH OF THE SCRIPT!

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    10. Rekha,

      By now hopefully I don't have to answer this Q for you.
      Khushi's tears made him play right into VLR's hands....Am i right?:

      Yes. This is what it seems like to me.

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    11. Su,
      In reply to your post ... I wonder is this what SHYAM was trying to do ... or the CV's?

      Because the cv's need a reason for Shyam to come back after some time ... if he was completely discredited now, even in Anjali's eyes, then his chances of return would be minimal. This way, there is scope for Shyam to try to weasel his way back into RM using Anjali as his trap door. And they need a reason for Anjali to develop the rift with Arnav ... which is also probably why Arnav's truth did not emerge today. If Arnav had disclosed that he knew all along about Creepwa's designs on Khushi, and also that he had cut off Creepwa's allowance, then Anjali's house of cards would have collapsed completely ... she would have no faith left in Creepwa at all.

      The only difference between the two scenarios being whether or not VLR had the intent or not. I would like to believe that VLR DID actually get caught out by Arnav this time, and the reason he stopped Anjali from leaving with Arnav was because he had to keep striking before the RMvasis could start thinking too much and realise that Khushi's story was actually very easy to prove - he had to make the point that Khushi and Payal put it all together before they actually decided to call Buaji ...

      But as to wanting to put a rift between Anjali and Arnav ... why would he want that? Only to get Khushi? Because Arnav is sure as hell going to make sure he doesn't get the money any more, and that is VLR's first love, after all, not Khushi. If VLR creates rift between Anjali and Arnav, how will that help VLR in getting to Arnav's money?

      That's why I say, this is the CV's ploy, not necessarily Shyam's. Unless you can give me a good reason for VLR wanting that bro-sis rift ... you said Shyam engineered this hoping for a complete rift between the siblings so that he can hog Anjali's share ... but the rift he has engineered is from Anjali's side, not Arnav's ... Arnav will still watch out for Anjali and her money (now that he knows that Shyam is after it) like a hawk.

      That is why I will not give the credit YET to Shyam for engineering all this ... I still think he was caught on the back foot, he was confident that Arnav would not support Khushi and neither would the RM vasis ... Mami's and NK's invlovement took him by surprise, and most of all, this explained to me why Arnav and Khushi walked in separately ... to give Shyam the impression that they were not together yet ... she might have rescued Arnav because she loved him, as far as Shyam knew ... but Arnav loving her back to this extent, that he trusted her to this extent, came as a shock for Shyam. He did not know details of what happened the night Khushi and Arnav met, he didn't know that Arnav gave himself up to save Khushi, Arnav told the goons that Khushi ran away herself ... even the phone call Arnav made to Khushi can be explained by the fact that Khushi was the only one who knew that Arnav was kidnapped, that's why Arnav called her ... he didn't know that Arnav called her to check she was ok.

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    12. I agree with you Dia. Shyam was taken aback by the slap. He did not expect Arnav to support Khushi. He had seen him ignore her when she was begging him to believe her day before he left for London. He knew Arnav did not believe her when she had rushed to the airport in the hope of getting him to admit the truth and he stood her up. So at the time of kidnapping he was pretty much sure Arnav did not believe Khushi's words. That is why he kept harping on the fact that she had not a shred of proof to exonerate her. He knew Arnav was aware that he is a liar but he was also pretty confident that Arnav did not trust Khushi either. Arnav readily believed his earlier lies about Khushi loving him as well and forced a 'hate' marriage on her. This time he got Khushi to admit in her own words that she did want Arnav's ruin. He didn't bargain for NK to support Khushi and vouch for Khushi's good intent behind this damaging statement (not that Arnav needed such a proof of his wife's innocence from a third party at this point for he was already convinced of her innocence). So Shyam was caught in the back foot on this one. He tried to drive a wedge between Arshi and hope to get a reprieve from the heat he was facing. He hoped that Arnav's anger will be turned on Khushi and he can get behind his wife's pallu and win another life. Unfortunately for him Arnav is no longer the man he was able to fool six months back.


      Shyam cannot be written away, though. He will go lick his wounds, regroup his senses and come back to wreak vengeance. I would love to see Anj getting him back in RM only to ensure that she manages to get enough evidence against him to put him away for life. That would be the biggest twist when all along everyone will believe that Anj got him back because she cannot live without him and blindly trusts him.



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    13. dia.. great analysis. now you have made me really interested in seeing the next epi..

      i was feeling rather okay with not seeing next week's episodes.. now i'm a bit sad.

      su, thanks for raising the point that made us all think a bit more.

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    14. opti, you posted at the same time so did not see your comment.. thanks for your comments. (you write so expressively.. what i say in one sentence you will say in five.. and thus, any reader will understand clearly what you intend to express. )

      i usually do not think so deeply.. i've always had to eat my words/take a deeper look at the outer skin(of the episode) following your posts. really appreciate your comments.

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    15. Thanks Jaya but of late my brain is all the place and I don't get to express what I feel, at least not to my satisfaction. glad to know I still make some sense.


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  27. Hi guys! Episode was kind of ok but I have one question, when will they stop using bd for asr? What kind of never ending movie is he doing? I must say ph is so understanding I guess. ~cheng

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    1. Cheng,
      *smile*
      Worry not. Those scenes with BDs will be lesser now.
      I don't know if the movie is over yet. I read somewhere that it will take 6 months. I expect he has done most of his part in the movie and will need only shorter breaks from IPK till completion of the movie.

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  28. Girls

    If you are still wondering why Khushi had to speak up for Arnav to step in..

    From Heer Ranjha
    "Khushi bataa dena ki kab aana hai.."

    There needed to be a reversal to Arnav blackmailing Khushi soon after the wedding saying "Tum wahee karogi jo main chaahatha hoon.

    After HR"Theek hai toh aap hi bataa deejiye ki hum naaniji se kya kahin ki yeh necklace tooti kaise.."

    When they showed the Arnav Khushi scene outside the door just before entering RM - 2 scenes came to mind.
    1. One where he tells Khushi to behave normal so Di does not get stressed in this condition
    2. Arnav Khushi confrontation at the doorstep post Heer Ranjha.

    The hints of what we are missing I think lie there

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    1. Sandy, your explanation for the scene makes it so much better to watch....

      my point was that it cud've been an expressive type of scene where both look at each other and know what the other is saying....

      But ur explanation helped me understand it better.......

      another thought was that after that office scam scene, she had told him that jhoothe log hamesha nazare churate hai, aur sachchey log nazare milakar baat karte hai......that also came into play here.....

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    2. Geetu / Sandy -

      was reminded of that dialogue too (after the office scam epi) - yes ODG looked ODB in the eye - BUT TF did not look away either - so cant say that played out well here - Sandy's scenes make more sense here - the airport and HR tracks

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    3. Sandy, Opti and Su,

      Thanks to you girls for explaining things to me more clearly ... now I can see why Khushi asked him to intervene when she did and also why ODB kept silent for as long as he did. Although I do feel that for the TRP audience, it should have been spelled out more clearly ... maybe it will be cleared up in the next few episodes.

      Because one thing is very clear - this was not just the end of the MU track, this was a very strong beginning for the next couple of tracks ... a bro-sis rift, as well as the re-emergence of Shyam as the villain in the next phase, complete with a new set of equations - a hatred for BOTH ARNAV AND KHUSHI ...

      Once Shyam was exposed completely it would have been the end of him ... but Shyam is an integral part of the story, and he's not going to disappear so easily.

      Another thing, Rekha and others were also asking and I was also wondering - why is it that Arnav's role in the entire drama has not come out yet. Again, I think this will happen in the absence of Anjali ... he will keep it from her to soften the blow about her husband, or she will already go into hysterics and threatened miscarriage so the family will keep everything from her now ... he may or may not tell the rest of the family that he already knew about VLR. If he does, he gets their support for his action on VLR, but also their censure that he hid this truth from them all. And this would isolate Arhi and also Payal, from the family, not only from Anjali. It might be the cause of an Akash-Payal rift, which is also on the cards.

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    4. Arnav's silence:

      Girls,
      When all has Arnav been absolutely silent against a tirade / monologue from Khushi? and Why?
      (listing top 3 that came to my mind)

      1. Khushi comes to RM to resign after the guest house incident

      2. Khushi tells him about her parents and how she too is an orphan

      3. Khushi telling him how she was orphaned all over again by the sudden marriage

      Why did Arnav let Khushi lead the fight with Shyam? What does he know about her strength?

      What was Arnav's primary motive in marrying Khushi and all the rest that followed?
      1. Ensuring Di's health in her fragile state, she was pregnant and ensuring she faces no stress.

      Put together the answers to the Qs above and you will know why Arav did what he did only when he did and why the exit of Shyam was clean and quick.

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    5. Sandy, I agree with you on these, but my problem is, like I said below, with the execution. All the times you have mentioned, it was Arnav vs Khushi when he knew she was in the right, and was shying away from admitting it to himself.

      Here she is battling others - i.e Shyam and his own family ... and he has always come to her rescue at such times ... be it the goons in Nainital, the guests at the munh dikhayi after the wedding, the first Teri Meri at the sangeet, even telling Anjali he will leave with Khushi if Di doesn't accept their wedding ... he could never bear to see her get belittled or insulted ...

      Yes, he can see Anjali getting all pale and faint ... he tries to take her away ... Shyam stops him and proceeds to spew more venom ... here he KNOWS Creepwa is lying ... at the point when VLR accuses Khushi of running after him, that is the one point Arnav is absolutely sure about ... so what keeps him silent? Protecting his sister? From what??? What more is there to tell her that she hasn't heard already? How much more stress will she face if he shuts Shyam up with the whole truth? Would it not be better to make the break clean and quick, and leave no room for doubt, by adding his confirmation to NK and Payal?

      This way he has only prolonged the agony by still leaving Anjali in doubt as to whether Khushi was really right or not. One cannot then blame Khushi for hiding the truth to protect Di, and in the same breath, exonerate Arnav for doing the same thing ...

      In fact, the more I think about it, the more I feel Arnav was being a coward, not acknowledging to his family and to himself, his OWN mistake in ALSO doing exactly what Khushi did - hide the truth from Anjali. And that is what will boomerang on him later, by allowing Shyam that crack to enter the house again, by manipulating Anjali.

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  29. i seriously have loads to do but cant help myself - some nonsense ramblings:
    :D

    - in response to to some IF post - that ODG should leave- I ask why? she is not in the wrong - if she should have left it should have been after the terrace scene where ODB said it must be very tough to give up the money, name and fame of being Mrs ASR! - but of course it did not happen then, coz she wanted to prove herself and then the KN track - so the moment was lost - she does not need to leave now!

    - As to ODB going down on his knees asking for forgiveness - yes want that BUT no weepy weakling stuff - non of the 'despondent, dejected' hero of the KN scenes - I want ODB to realize his mistake and beg for forgiveness in ASR style - not too filmy but very heartfelt - like his first 'sorry' - after all he did what he thought was right and when he realized he made a mistake, be a man and own up but no soopy stuff - going crazy, harming himself type of crap! (sorry am a sucker for strong men! - do not misread this as arrogant men - just strong men - who make mistakes and say sorry!)

    - Just realized Our Stupid Cupid is out of the picture - so ODB will have to up his game, on his own!! does that equal to ASR type romance - flustered KKG and sure ASR?? - :D:D:D - ok i am in Arhi land for sure!!! (no need to worry about anything very serious right now - they will have a sick Di and confused family on their hands to sooth first - so no time for the big C, just enough RV moments to get us smiling :D)

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    1. Mona agree, I have said it time and again myself that harming oneself is a sign of weakness. Realising one's mistakes and owning up to them is strength. I want ASR to look KKG in her eye and own up to all his mistakes and say a heartfelt sorry. There can no bigger RTR for ASR.
      Mona *SHIDDAT* to confused khushi and confident ASR and CCKP moments...... Awww....
      UJ

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      We are the craziest fans EVER !!!

      Die hard fans of a love story & one thing we don't want ... that too united is their MILAN - The C way

      ROFL

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  30. this Shyipkfan girl is really good - i liked this vm - can someone please tell me the name of the movie the song belongs to - i like it (of course i do it is not an Arhi song ;))
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP7nQKsI1PY&feature=relmfu

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    1. mona, forgot google baba??
      the movie is Players.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5UMYmtDV-M

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    2. Jaya -hehe - true- had forgotten google baba, was too caught up in the song and ODB&G of course :D

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  31. I was wondering about the whole concept of love in this show. Arnav believed that Khushi had the hots of his brother-in-law and married her to prevent her from breaking up his sister's marriage but there was never a single day in his entire married life that he stopped loving her. yes, he was harsh with her. He punished her and claimed to hate her but even in the peak of his anger, he couldn't help feeling her pain and instinctively try to protect her.


    Going through yesterday's episode for the third time and observing Anjali's expressions closely when the truth kept tumbling out one after another I wonder whether Anjali already believes in the truth and knows that her husband is the cheat. There was no animosity in the look she gave Khushi when she was told that Shyam was Khushi's elusive ex-fiance. She looked overwhelmed and drained by the truth. Knowing Shyam is a crook is one thing but turning her feelings for him from love to hate is quite another. The woman practically worshiped him all these years. She may despise his actions but she would not be able to stop loving him. She will be as torn between her love and loyalty to her bro and her love and duty to her husband.


    She may know that Arnav is right in throwing that creep out of the house but she would not be able to throw him out of her heart. There may be another attempt on Arshi's life and this time Anjali may decide she has had enough and in the hope of getting enough evidence against her husband to put him away for life, she may use herself as the bait. No one will know what really is in her mind and may think that she wants Shyam because she loves him. Arnav may give in and get Shyam back. Only this time the seemingly innocent Anjali will lure Shyam in to complacency and get the evidence to put him away. Her love for her brother will win over her love for her husband.


    Opti

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    1. Opti,

      i missed the above post earlier....
      Quite an interesting post
      A couple of days ago, i was thinking about the concept of Trust/love vis-a-vis IPK....
      As viewers we have seen Anji's trust/love for her husband and on the other hand, we have seen Arnav's budding trust in Khushi.

      We have been egging on Arnav, probably calling him diff names thru his trust journey. At the same time, we have been wanting Anjali to give up her trust in Shyam. Thats becos we have been privy to all that is happening before and naturally we want justice for our heroes....
      But the fact remains...that Arnav had to battle his prejudices/pre-conceived notions before he could trust Khushi.
      We shouldn't therefore be surprised if Anji, takes her sweet time to wipe that sheen off her godly husband..

      what i mean is where is trust without understanding/knowledge/righteousness, it is always blind trust and that can actually be dangerous. However rose-tinted our world, its better to let it be enlightened from time to time..

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  32. After a good night's sleep and processing the wednesday, thursday and friday episodes here goes my thought process.....

    Did anyone feel that the three days played out like draupadi's vastraharan in bhari sabha? Yudhrishthir lost draupadi in the of chausar and she was dragged in the bhari sabha to be insulted. The pandavas protested against her insults but could do nothing more as they were rendered slaves in the same game. It was when dussashan started the dirty game of pulling her clothes that she calls upon Krishna's help who ofc helps her. Note that krishna helps her only when he is called upon.

    To me the epis seemed like the whole raizada family watching khushi being accused, VLR piling insult after insult on khushi.
    The pandavas being khushi (draupadi in this context), Arnav (krishna), NK and Payal; Kauravas Shyam, Dhrithrashtra Anjali (blindly faithful to her hubby as ever) and sabha ki janata remaining raizada family. Khushi was being slammed, discredited and NK-Payal (pandavas) could only protest and lay bare their side of the story. It was when khushi called upon help that Arnav steps in.

    After draupadi vastra haran, many vows of revenge were taken by Arjuna, bhima. After seeing khushi slandered in front of the whle family Arnav would have mentally vowed to nearly kill VLR but abhi samay sahi nahi hai. Kurukshetra war did not start straight after draupadi vastr hara but it was fuelled by it. Varstra haran was the last straw in the hat to set up the war.

    Arnav abhi toe maine himmat dhikai nahi hai, jis din himmat dhikhaunga uss din ke baad apni baki zindagi jail ke peeche katoge' indication of times to come. Khushi had to be slandered for arnav to burn with anger, burn for revenge. He will get the details from NK and mami which will further fuel his need for revenge.

    Lakshagragh incidence was bad enough but lacked the potential to fuel kurukshetra war similar di ko dhoka dena was bad enough but not bad enough to fuel the anger and rage of revenge in ASR. It was draupadi vastra haran in mahabharat and it is khushi sladering in IPK that will lead to the war.

    Khushi would have never herself given the details to ASR - things like kheer khilana and trying to win VLR's trust, going in his room on some pretext or the other, pendrive pasword khushi would never tell ASR about these things herself more out of sheer embarassment than anything else. Ghin being the right word I think. So this had to happen for ASR to realise the extend of damage and agony that khushi has gone through not just to bring him back but to preserve the happiness of his family.
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  33. Random thoughts

    Babuji will hardly testify in front of the whole raizada family after all guptas' testimony may not count anymore after the way VLR refuted payal and khushi as being gold diggers and sister supporting sister. Babuji will reveal his truth to ASR possibly when ASR is at gupta and guptas realise that thing have gone wrong because of creepwa. I also think that buaji needs to redeem herself for the forced VLR-K engagement. Will she reveal to A how difficult it was to convince K for engagement and how she agreed only on diwali night. Payal has had a two minutes fame and doubt she will get another chance to let ASR know of the circumstances under which K got engaged. I think for all this to come out Arhi specially Arnav needs to make a trip back to GH with an intention to dig out the truth and gather evidence.

    some thoughts:
    Arnav - insecure, untrusting, egoistic and short tempered. Actions come before thoughts.
    Khushi - naive, ever trusting, forgiving and wanting to do everything herself.
    Anjali - weak, egocentric, always in her bubble, blind faith
    Shyam - conniving, smooth talking leech, delusional and obssesive

    Arnav, Khushi and Anj need to redeem themselves. Khushi for hding the truth, for being naive. Arnav for not trusting his love for his own insecurities and Anji for being such a cry baby. Khushi's truth is out in the open now. Arnav's trust is out in the open. It's not building Anji's strength to face the truth. Anji's strength can only be Arhi not Arnav alone nor Khushi alone.
    UJ

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  34. Some random thoughts from me too ... if Arnav was keeping quiet to save his Di from more agony, was he doing the right thing? He has seen, more than any of the others, how keeping quiet has wreaked havoc in their lives - his, Khushi's and Anjali's ... why is he still trying to shield his Di? From what?! She has heard everything now ... isn't it time that she be given the entire truth, rather than more half-truths? And isn't he making the same mistake that he and Khushi made a few months ago ... that of assuming Di to be so fragile that it's better to shield her from the worst?


    Make her sit down, give her a glass of water ... and tell her, firmly and gently ... the way Khushi finally did ... I'm sorry you have to hear these things, Di, but it's time you saw the true face of your husband. When Anjali didn't crumble at Mami's words, when she managed to hear Khushi out all through, why shirk from giving her the final blow ... when he and the entire family are there to support her? It's not as though Anjali will be turned out on the street because she has a faithless husband ...

    All along we've been saying that Khushi's biggest fault was to not tell Anjali the truth at the right time ... why is Arnav perpetuating the same fault again?


    Regarding UJ's post above about the three people's RTR's ... Khushi has started her RTR ... heck, she's walked most of it, she's taken the onus of proof on herself, she's put herself through hell to make up for her faults, including risking her own life, not once, not twice but thrice ... and now she has told the complete and entire truth, aided by Payal and NK. She told Arnav once before too when he finally told her the reason for their marriage - he didn't believe her, and she tried to prove her innocence, THAT was what led to this kidnapping ... not her hiding the truth in the first place. That truth has been out to Arnav almost as long as it has been known to Khushi.

    Arnav has redeemed himself partially for not trusting Khushi ... but like I feel the Pandavas were weak for not protecting Draupadi during the vastraharan, similarly has come across as weak for not intervening when VLR was insulting his wife left, right and center, particularly AFTER VLR said the words that Arnav KNEW to be patently false viz., that VLR had no feelings for Khushi, and she was the one who was doing the chasing.

    Pandavas, or rather Yudhishtra, made the mistake of wagering Draupadi in the game of dice ... here, Arnav made the call of making Khushi the bait for Shyam to spill the truth ... so I will not call Arnav the Krishna here who stopped the cheerharan, he is the Yudhishtra who because of his weakness of gambling - read lack of trust, put Draupadi in this situation in the first place. He failed miserably here as a husband and protector ... and this is after he has acknowledged that he loves Khushi.

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    1. contd ...
      If the whole purpose of the last three episodes was to get Shyam to expose himself, it would have been a much better move .. they could have gotten Anjali out of the scene before the final breakdown so that she didn't witness the ultimate exposing and thus maintained her illusory world ... but this way was an anti-climax and left me very dissatisfied with the execution. Arnav came across more like a typical SP husband, who listens quietly for his mother's /sister's sake, while his wife, the good pavitra bahu has to prove her innocence to the world ... the most attractive thing about ASR was that he was different ... and that difference has been shattered now.

      The first thing my husband asked was - why is the guy keeping quiet for three whole episodes?! And that is what the regular audience will see too ...

      Also the way Khushi spoke her dialogues was all wrong ... she should not have pleaded, she should have said her piece quietly ... defeatedly if necessary for Shyam to keep thinking he was winning ... but not pleading for justice ... poor direction there, was it just to make Arnav the hero, and reduce the girl who had actually done all the work of finding him to an abla damsel in distress? That's like all SP serials ... I wanted the Khushi who will walk out with her head held high after she has proved her truth ... not one who is begging for justice.

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    2. BQ (dia) :D

      - had to add - ASR was not the typical SP hero here - firstly - he took the final decision, he threw out TF - without talking it out with Anji - very typical of a strong man thinking he knows what is best for his family (how true that is another point altogether!) - so basically he took the stand! - oh yes i completely agree that he should tell his sister and let her decide (after all its her decision!) but that is what we expect of sensible human beings - not strong fictional characters who have to write their fate! :D)

      - secondly - you are forgetting that he did go to his Di right in the beginning - he started by doing what KKG was doing yesterday - he said - DI i have to tell you something even though i know you will be shattered! - but the stupid lady fainted and he lost his resolve!

      - finally - he was silent coz THEY were trying to trap TF in his own web of lies. the only part where ODB looked a little shocked was when she agreed to having said that she would ruin ODB - that was the only part he did not know - the only part she wanted him to believe in her - and ofcourse he did. also like i said earlier - he had to be silent for three episodes coz this is a climax in a daily soap - they had to stretch it!!

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    3. Mona,

      I'm not talking about taking the final decision here ... I'm talking about listening to all the crap that VLR dished out, and letting his wife bear the burden ... even AFTER the point that Shyam did exactly what they wanted him to do ... i.e expose his own lies! YES, the whole purpose was to trap Shyam in his web of lies ... when Shyam did exactly that by claiming that Khushi was doing the running, wasn't that the time for ASR to chime in and say 'excuse me, but didn't you tell me a few months ago that you and Khushi were in love, she is your junoon and all that and the only person standing between the two of you is Rani Sahiba? Either you were lying then or you're lying now ... which is it?'
      What was the purpose of keeping quiet after that?! To spare Di? To spare Di WHAT?! Only the shock of knowing that HE also had known all along about the Creep? What else was left to spare her? Or did he keep quiet to not let out the truth of his and Khushi's marriage - which was HIS decision, and his decision alone?

      Yes, he went to tell Di right in the beginning about her Creepwa husband ... well, so did Khushi ... he stopped after Di fainted, Khushi stopped after Di had hysterics about a broken mangal sutra ... same situation, same reactions ... except that added problem was that Di was pregnant also. And Khushi went to tell Arnav about her terrace confrontation also, and kept quiet for the same reason, Di's pregnancy ... giving Shyam one more chance to reform ... isn't that exactly what Arnav did?

      What I'm saying is that in setting up the bro-sis conflict, the cv's compromised the effectiveness of the disclosure of Shyam's truth ... they could have achieved the same effect by making Shyam expose himself AFTER Anjali left the room ... it would have created more dramatic impact and not left this feeling of dissatisfaction. Right now I feel - what was all the drama about, when nothing finally got proved?!

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    4. "Also the way Khushi spoke her dialogues was all wrong ... she should not have pleaded, she should have said her piece quietly ... defeatedly if necessary for Shyam to keep thinking he was winning ... but not pleading for justice ..." I AGREED. i thought she should have said her piece with quiet dignity to arnav.. because she is now assured of his love. but then i thought again, and somehow, i dont think she is as sure of his TRUST..and loss of that scares her more than loss of his love. hence,

      however, we are all -viewers- of the show (i think ;) ) and somewhere, we take it into our hearts and want to see the story go our way.. but the story is actually in the hands of the creative team behind it.. we all download/upload our sentiments here, but we have to admit that the show is not ending.. they have to go another 200 episodes. there has to be some track for sham to continue as villain.. and this open ended anticlimax is as good as any other, at this moment.

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    5. Why do I feel like that's the promise khushi extracted from Arnav before entering RM.... No matter what ... he will not lose his temper and utter the reason behind their marriage. (I doubt big time that these two can have an actual conversation of such long lenght)

      He kept quiet for khushi &he also acted for khushi!!

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    6. Dia I understand the frustration of not having heard ASR's side of things. But it will happen. I don't think he kept quiet for di, I think he kept quiet for his khushi. Khushi who has already gone through enough pain and allegations. The whole family questioning her integrity. Although Arnav could say he forced her to marry him, would that not also prove that Arnav once doubted her having an affair with VLR. Does Arnav have any concrete evidence of Khushi not having an affair with VLR other than his own trust. What would be the point of saying A agreeing that he forced Khushi to maary him because of his preconcieved notions but now he trusts her. It would then raise the same question that Arnav is blindly trusting Khushi with no evidence.

      The way I see it, although A trusts K, he was not aware of what happened at RM behind his back. He does not know what all K has had to go through and he definitely did not know how deceitful and kameena shyam is. He needed to just listen to what was happeneing around him and take it all in so that he can process the information and gather the right evidence.

      He maaried khushi not for his di but due to his insecurities and jealousy. He punished K not for deceiving his di but because he thought she led him on and two timed him. If he was doing things for di he would have driven K away from RM long time ago. Similarly, I think he behaved the way he did in the last three episodes for K. He wanted all the family to know what K has gone through because of VLR. Now the whole family knows what VLR has claimed in front of them that it was K who came after him, K wanted to ruin A etc etc. Arnav will now prove each and every allegation otherwise in other words restore khushi's honour. For di's sake he would have spared VLR of that thappad because he knew it will hurt his di immensely if he hit her pati, it was for K that arnav raised his hand. His acts purely for khushi's sake.
      I think before arnav discloses the truth of marriage, he needs to speak to K and agree with her because that will hurt her the most. It is one thing to be implicated of trying to break anji's marriage and completely another thing to be implicated for having lived with a man in his house, in his room for nearly 6 months out of a forced marriage and relationship. She has always believed in the institution of marriage and for her to have agreed this arrangement even if it was for payash's sake would be hard to forgive as far as both raizada and gupta family are concerned. Although you could argue that Arnav is in the same boat but then as far as he is concerned he was perfectly happy to have a live with La so....
      I can almost hear naniji say 'khushi bitiya chotey toe Lavanya ke saath bhi bina shadi ke rahna chate the, lekin tum toe janti ho na shadi ka matlab.........?'
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    7. Dia,

      I understand your anguish and empathise with it but I'll play the devil's advocate here.

      Arnav did not want his Di to know that he knew about the creep's behaviour all along, at least not at this point when she is already reeling from the shock of one revelation after another. Her world around her is collapsing and he thought that if she comes to know that her dear chottey had also hidden the fact that he knew her husband was betraying her and yet chose to keep quiet till now, it would be completely shatter her. Worse, she may lose the baby for whom he kept quiet all these days. He could have also feared that creep may turn it around and ask him why then did he marry the girl and bring her to live in the same house as the man who was after her and he may then have to admit that he had forced Khushi to get married to him so that she cannot run off with his brother-in-law. So far Anjali thinks that their wedding was done swiftly because the two couldn't contain their passion for each other. If she comes to know that it was born out of hate and anger, she would be doubly shocked. She holds the institution of marriage in high regard and the thought that Arnav had abused it to the extent he has would not go down well with her. Yes, she has to know all this at some point but right now is not the time to be spilling the beans in front of her.


      As to his confession to the rest of the family. I fully agree with you that he has to come clean and admit everything he knew and did. I think the provocation for this would be Mami's jibes at Khushi and Payal. Yes, he should come clean even without being provoked to do so but given his characetarisation so far, I wouldn't be surprised if he does not volunteer the information on his own. Your earlier comment of his acting God is apt here.


      Going by Khushi's expressions when he slapped Shyam again and said that it was for misbehaving with his wife, and later stating that Di and Khushi are the two most important people in his life, I doubt Khushi is even expecting him to come clean.


      Do I like all this? Hell no! I'd rather see Arnav be man enough to make a public confession but then this is a daily soap and one has to live with the perils of it.

      Opti

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    8. Dia, UJ, Opti - Dia i wanted to respond to your post but UJ seems to have said exactly what i wanted to :D
      - i too got the feeling that ODB kept quiet this time for for Di yes, but also for KKG - he really does not want to tell everyone the secret of his wedding - not to save himself from the backlash but to save his ladylove from more humiliating accusations!
      Also we have to remember that this is a daily soap - in a film it might have ended earlier.

      Finally - ODG was asking her husband to trust her - something he has not openly shown to date - love he has, but not trust (aitbar) - no, not out in the open - so the episode was not about just exposing TF - it was about the trust that they both (ODB&G) have in each other and the trust they are willing to fight for and risk all for
      Earlier i had thought it was all part of a plan from their side - provoke TF to speak up coz ODG had no concrete proof - but then i realized that when TF threw the googly about ODG saying she wanted to destroy ODB(which he knows can easily be the truth - he had been that mean to her!) - that's the only time she asks if he trusts her (not in isharah - but in actual words - no hidden messages here) - and unlike the past - this time he does not leave her hanging - he answers, loud and clear - for her and the rest to hear and accept - that she means the world to him and he trusts her completely!

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  35. question from IF .. Shyam said that Payal trapped Akash in her love game... but Akash fell in love with Payal and Payal even turned him down... and Akash knows that right? Then why didnt akash react to what Shyam said about payal yesterday?

    was it only because akash has no dialogues?

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    1. Jaya ... they were all numb to know so many things happening around them .... Specially Nani &Akash ... that's why they were in same frame ... these two had no idea whatsoever ... rest had a little or half truths.

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  36. Abbas and Akshay ne taan li hai ... to make weekends bearable for IPKians :D

    abhaas mehta ?@abhaasmehta
    U all saw what happ today..wat noone saw and neither did the camera see was shyam runnin behind RM aand climbing in thru the pipeline;-)

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      Big new drama in IPKKND .. bhaap ree

      hmm ... big enough that KG can't say it ... usually he gives away his share!!

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  37. Girls,

    I was away for a few hours but the thots of yesterday's epi and the posts were in my head all this while...Just got back to read Dia, Sandy, Su, Jayas Mona, Opti..'s posts....

    My brain is actually fried.....even tho i went on a recommended trip to Siberia....
    The thot that Dia expressed about Cvs creating a situation for a revival of the villain...its something i can believe in....AND I absolutely agree with her that at the end of it I feel exactly like Dia does...as if sab kuch hua par kuch nahin hua....

    Frankly, since nothing is clear....i can believe anything....

    For my sanity, i am thinking the following

    1) Arnav and Khushi at the doorstep...exchange is similar to the HR & Pag phere incident..(Sandy, what recall yaar!)....Khushi says she has the proof to expose Shyam...Arnav accepts it. Now frankly, Khushi was telling the truth as always..she did believe she had the proofs..

    2)Things turned against her during the drama...Arnav still continued to believe her but also had read the situation to realise that VLR was playing a dangerous game. He thot best to shut up and keep counsel...in fact he wanted to move away from it all to not give VLR the advantage..( i am drawing here from Su's perspective

    3)However, VLR pushed hard precipitating the situation and that caused Khushi's uncharacteristic outburst...(i say uncharacteristic becos if they had a plan, she shld have kept the faith) but being the truthful person she is,(here i am drawing from Jaya's perspective) she pleaded with Arnav to trust her as she longer had the proofs she had promised and she cares more about the loss of Arnav's trust than his love...

    4)Arnav could not stop himself from responding to her at that stage even if that was not his original plan..

    PHEW....I don't know yet if i am nearly there....but i have to go by one view if i have to watch another epi of IPK.

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    1. UJ, Opti,
      I will be disappointed if Arnav kept quiet for his Di's sake here. Yes, she would be shattered to know that her own Chotey also knew about Shyam, and hid it from her. But what is the point of shielding her any more ... when the truth is coming out, let it all come out at one go, and let Anjali know each and everything - only then will SHE be able to make the right judgement on Shyam. By keeping quiet, and not exposing Shyam's lies fully for what they are, Arnav is encouraging the real truth to remain concealed a while longer. And also stopping it from being a clean break ... a clean break is less painful than being left with hope and having it shattered again and again ... by not exposing Shyam once and for all, Anjali is left with some hope that Shyam has been misunderstood and wrongly accused ... and Shyam can still weasel his way back in. Which is probably what the CV's intended ... but that's not great storytelling - when you compromise your characters to fit the story, rather than letting your characters' traits decide the flow.

      I would hope that Arnav kept quiet as UJ says - for Khushi's sake ... to spare her the humiliation of letting the entire family know that he too mistrusted her about having an affair with Shyam. But for one thing - is that worse than listening to Shyam accuse Khushi of trying to trap a married man? And secondly, isn't it likely that Shyam might let that out at some point also? What would be worse - hearing it from Arnav or hearing it as yet another accusation from Shyam?

      Also, if Arnav had to keep that part a secret from Anjali for whichever reason ... whether to protect Khushi or Anjali, there were other ways he could have defended Khushi, without letting out the secret of the marriage. By telling the family loud and clear that he saw himself Khushi risk her life not once but twice to rescue him, that she exchanged the kerosene cans for water, otherwise he would be dead by now, that she was dragged off by the kidnapper and left tied on the road, that she almost lost her life in trying to rescue him ... all that he has seen for himself and can tell the family to counter Shyam's attack that Khushi really wanted to destroy him.

      That's why I will only be appeased on the keeping quiet front if it transpires later that it happened as Sama said ... Khushi made Arnav promise not to let out the secret of their forced marriage because it would destroy Di to know that Chotey always knew how vile Shyam was, and how he had forced Khushi to marry him. And also how it would hurt Akash and Payal that he held their wedding as ransom. In other words, Khushi protecting Arnav again, as she did by her silence on their wedding day, when he left her to face the music alone.

      But this time, after Shyam leaves, Arnav needs to come clean and tell the family ... maybe not the forced wedding part, if Khushi doesn't want him to, but at least about how Khushi risked her life to try and find him, which Mami can also vouch for. Hence he knew NK was telling the truth, and by extension, so was Khushi.

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    2. contd ...
      Ideally, he should tell them that he forced Khushi for the wedding ... because if secrets are coming out, then it's better that all come out ... and he admit his own mistakes, not in front of Shyam, or Anjali ... but at least clear Khushi's name for the rest of the family. But then serial will shut down in two months ... so some secrets still need to be kept for the next track ;)


      Rekha, I would agree more or less with your summing up ... I thought first that Khushi would have told Arnav she didn't have proof, but on second thoughts, yes, she felt she DID have proof, that's why Arnav allowed her to go ahead and accuse Shyam ... as the confrontation went on, she realised she had lost all the proofs (seriously cv's, after making Khushi so smart all through, you had to dumb her down right at the end?!) ... and hence she panicked at the point when Shyam saccused her of the one thing she had to admit to - especially as she was being completely truthful this time round ... and she was scared to lose Arnav's trust. Though she shouldn't have panicked ... as NK was still there to back up her version ...

      That's why I feel her appeal should have been more dignified and less piteous ... and Arnav anyway didn't need proof by that stage, because he already knew his KJ was lying through his teeth.

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    3. Dia,

      I am not saying he has to hide the truth from Anjali forever. All I am saying is that he must have felt that it was too much of revelation to be happening at one point. Given her fragile health he may not have wanted to take that chance. After all he did hold his tongue and put himself and Khushi through so much pain for the sake of 'nani' Khushi. He would not have wanted to precipitate the situation and risk a miscarriage at this point. I can understand that and I am not averse to him giving his Di that much of importance because after all they have grown up together and are the best judge of each other's strengths and weaknesses.

      He has to come clean with her and the sooner the better but I feel that day was not the day. Somehow I do have a soft corner for Anjali.

      Opti

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    4. Dia,

      They recreated the sethi bros scene...as many posts above have pointed out....but in their urge to re-visit, they compromised on one aspect.

      That aspect being how viewers would react to Khushi making that plea after her "oh-so-mysterious" conversation (the one which is still a conjecture) with Arnav. If they had let us have a peek, it may have reduced our blood pressure...

      Let me share with u why I did not have a problem with it, one my own perception and then Jaya's post which i completely agreed with

      My perception is that mentally, Khushi is still stuck on that day on the bridge/airport where her aim was to make sure that he did not misunderstand her.
      The realisation of love and her innate righteousness had only made her that much more determined to save him when she realised he was in harm's way.
      However, seeing herself in a situation where she was being cornered like before may have given rise to that piteous plea.....
      As i have said earlier, CVs have let too much to interpretation..the danger here is no gain saying how each one will perceive it.

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  38. VM for the Slaptastic Day !!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4lXbup84Z8

    song selection so apt :D :D :D

    Ab tak teen .... hmmm ... Kab hogi iski dhulai ... ME *fingers crossed*

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    1. haha - wow hoe do these girls even come up with such apt songs??
      Had forgotten the wonderful KKG slap - glad was reminded of it :D

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  39. And one last thing - i know it has no relevance now but still - the reason ODB was so affected by the terrace scene was more than the hug - to my mind - the hug was imp but far more imp was ODG's words - "if this relationship means nothing to you , why don't you dump Anji" - without reference to context, they are very damning words!! so in his mind he actually thought that she was in a relationship with TF - she believed in marriages and hence wanted one with TF - so Anji had to go out - she was not prepared for 'secret association'

    basically what i am trying to say is that for ODB - it was always her - always what she said and felt that was paramount - TF was just the bystander who came to the forefront once he declared his undying love for her! - So their acceptance of love and trust (aitbar) had to be said in direct words - face to face

    wonder if i am even making sense or are the ramblings in my head too confusing :D

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    1. yes, you're making sense.

      " in his mind he actually thought that she was in a relationship with TF - she believed in marriages and hence wanted one with TF - so Anji had to go out - she was not prepared for 'secret association'"

      was the exact reason (half of the reason) why he married her.. ODB was convinced that once he married her, she would not stray.

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  40. ArHi promoting SP new show - Teri Meri Love Story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEqg3rg8lo

    ArHi aap dono bhi churalo kuch pal .... besabri se intezar hai .... aaawwwwwwweeeeeeee .... how cute they look together .... hayyeee .... nazar utarofying !!

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    1. Ad Pics:

      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3080540

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    2. Sama u cutie....

      so sweet of u to post that link.....yes those two bachhas look so cute together..after friday....i have been having nightmares of how will their "pyaar ki gaddi" get moving in the midst of the Di hysterics....happy to look at something nice...

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  41. dont know if you read this but its really funny!

    http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3079404

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  42. a slight change in ASR dialogue :
    "maine apni himmat dikhayi, toh jail bhejne keliye tumhare tukde tak nahi milta"

    what do you think?

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  43. Sorry for the rant .. may be repetitive of all you have said

    Read everyones take on why Arnav did what he did , but still not convinced with bitwa’s actions. Agreed they (Arhi) never wanted to get the confrontation nor they wanted it get this far, or Bitwa kept quite for his Di, or to trap shyam in his web of lies and was a plan...
    If it was for Di then , like Dia said he is doing the same mistake again, not giving the whole truth, the mistake he and Kh did.
    If bitwa trusted Kh, he should have step in when her character was getting assinated. The moment shyam said she phasofied him and Arnav and now NK he should have step in and not waited for her plea to do the needful.
    If it was again because of Di unable to take to anymore he should have put his foot down and taken her away when shyam tried to null him into clearing him everything, if it was for Di then he should have let her hear everything.. No it was not only for Di but for Khushi also ...
    If sandy I go by what you gave 3 instances where Arnav has kept quite because of being guilty and has done the same again, then NO he did not stay upto that part either. In both the cases above – after the GH incidence as well as their talk about parents he knew he was wrong and he did accept that – at GH incidence he had not learned to say sorry hence accepted her resignation and incase of the parents again he knew he was wrong and made a mistake in understanding her , hence to correct it he said sorry for the first time , After the wedding when she called herself orphan again, he knew that he was wrong in getting married to the girl in the way he did (with the contract, when for her marriage meant a dream) but he did not apologise because in his mind she was having a affair with his BIL and betrayed him... but after that he has been there for her stood there when people accused her , going to the extent of telling his beloved Di that he will walk out of the house .. every time she has been hurt he has reacted to it ...
    On the bridge when Kh told him the whole truth he had connected the dots but his mind needed the prove and also take the scene of the dhaag scene when he hurt her again unintentionally he told her sorry again because in his heart he had accepted her truth, and each time take the sorry phone call all were to correct is guilty of hurting her ... the ASR still in character ... take airport he knew that he had wronged her. His dimaag wanted the proof the ASR wanted the proof while his heart had accepted her truth. The ILU, Kh risking her life to find him, the first hug, hut were all to just put the seal for him that he was wrong in judging this girl, words may say something else but the physical emotions which goes says way beyond in knowing that the person cares and loves you then the words saying it. Thats when he calls to say sorry when first opportunity strikes – no his prority was to know she was fine and that he was sorry for hurting her , not just that day, but all along, hence the sorry...

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