Thursday, July 12, 2012

12/7 - Epi 295 ... RTR - Back to Starting Point, Bitwa

Thursday 12th July

One long drawn out scene with completely hysterical Anjali and very dirty pair of forceps ... Arnav is completely useless in emotional situations ... first he tells the doctor to get out, he'll handle Anjali, then he panics and yells for doctor to come back ... Bitwa, you should have let the doctor sedate her and get her into that strait jacket I spoke about yesterday.

DB's acting was much better today ... in the scene with the forceps I was reminded of The Other Side of Midnight, (Sidney Sheldon) where a woman kills her unborn baby at the last possible moment in the most painful way possible, because she wants the baby to suffer all the pain its father gave her.
But of course, Anjali has deeper issues ... she will be left alone again, like she was on her wedding day when her parents died and her marriage broke ... completely helpless, with a younger brother to look after ... in place of a brother, now a child to look after ...

In the scene with Arnav. don't know it was genuinely hysterical, back to child Anjali pleading with her brother to make everything all right again ... a younger brother who had to take over the role of an elder far too soon ... or it was a manipulative woman, seeking to bring back her brother into her fold, and remove the woman whom she believed was the cause of all their troubles ... to the point where she actually convinced Arnav too ... if Khushi hadn't come into their lives, they would have all remained in their happy little world ... again, DB was very good here ...
Mami added the final spark ... and Arnav's temper makes a comeback ... and how ...!!!

Poor Khushi ... I felt like crying for her ... :(
Does no one stop to think what she has gone through at the hands of that man?
Does Arnav not stop to think how much happier and more peaceful Khushi's life would have been if he hadn't entered it?!

I am glad Khushi will walk out now ... Arnav is back to starting point on that RTR of his ... all the miles he redeemed just got cancelled out. And it looks like they will have a full fledged RTR after all ... after that outburst of Arnav's, it's definitely needed.

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Another very good episode today, high on drama, and very good acting ... today Daljeet stepped up to the plate .. and each of of the main three was right and wrong in their own way, but the person I felt the least sorry for was Arnav, actually ... comparatively speaking ... have explained why later.
Lots of Anjali character analysis today - not much to her credit :)

So Anjali enters a room with surgical instruments ... ready to take an ultimate step ...
When people are genuinely depressed to the point of being suicidal, they choose methods which have a greater chance of success ... but often, suicide attempts are more like calls for help ... and such people choose attempts that are likely to fail but will draw attention to themselves ...
And Anjali is doing exactly that ... calling for help ... she is overwhelmed by everything that has happened, her world has spiralled completely out of her control ... Earlier she was completely in control of it, as well as of everyone within it ... her husband, her brother both danced to her tunes, but now one has been thrown out by the other ... and she is left helpless to do anything about it ... she doesn't like it ... she doesn't understand it ...
And she's not suicidal, she wants to kill her baby ... because her brother said he did all this for the baby's sake ... but the baby will have the same life that she had in her past ... helpless and alone, because everyone hates the father. She will be alone, left to take care of her baby, because her family hates its father ... as helpless as she was when she was alone with a younger brother to take of when she lost her parents, and was thrown out on the road, abandoned by the man who promised to marry her and left her on her wedding day ... now abandoned by her baby's father ... alone again ... with another child to look after ...

That day the child stepped up and took over the role of caretaker and parent, and she survived ... but now ... who will take care of her? Not her child surely ... she needs to be looked after ... she is not strong enough to do the looking after ... so the baby has to go ...

And Mami continues to blame Khushi for everything ... unfairly as usual ... but then Arnav has not yet told the entire house the entire truth ...

And the instrument Anjali chooses .... was it deliberate? Scissors, scalpels all lying on the tray, yet she picks up a blunt forceps ... another sign that this is a call for help, not a deliberate attempt to harm herself ... because people like Anjali are careful not to harm themselves ... their motive is to draw attention, not to actually hurt themselves. Anjali seeking out a doctor who knows her and her family, her desire to hurt the baby but not herself, in the middle of a crowded nursing home, where she can be sure to be found just in time ... all her actions show that she is crying out for help ... her world is crumbling and she can't deal with it ...

Where Nani and Mami erred was in assuming Anjali should be left alone to deal with the trauma, to come to terms with it ...
What Anjali wants, in her delusional, half-crazed state, is her perfect little world to be restored, with herself at the center of it ...
What she needs is actually exactly what Khushi tried to give her ... come to terms with the facts, that Shyam was evil, and she is best rid of him ... she has a home, a loving family, a baby coming ... she has to count her blessings and move on.

When I remembered the scene from The Other Side of Midnight, I also remember that the girl was very clear on what she wanted to do ... she went to the doctor regularly, and kept asking one question - can the baby feel anything yet? Only when the doctor said yes, the baby can feel pain now, did the girl go ahead to abort ... and she did the deed in complete private ... because she wanted to succeed.

That's why I feel that this was a cry for help ... Anjali did not want to abort the baby ... all she wanted was her perfect world back ... the collapse of her world was what scared her ... not the infidelity of her husband. 
And in reality ... don't many women make that compromise in real life? Put up with abuse, put up with husband's infidelity, his less than perfect behaviour ... because they are scared of the alternative?
True, Anjali has less reason to be scared than most ... because she has a support system to return to, unlike many of those women ... but to admit her husband was unfaithful and did not love her is a repeat heartbreak - her first husband-to-be did not love her enough either, to stand by her when her world broke up the first time ...

Anjali needs help ... I can understand her ... I sympathise with her, I feel sorry for her ... I still don't like what she's doing, and despise and detest her for not being strong even for her child. She failed her younger brother once upon a time, and he had to grow up overnight and lose his childhood to take care of her ... now she is failing him again, he has found happiness in his life, but she will force him to lose it to take care of her ... and she is failing the child she carries.

So Arnav discovers her just in time ... or so he thinks (methinks Anjali would have waited for someone to find her anyway) ... and Anjali cracks up completely into hysterics ... either that or it is the performance of her life ... yeah, yeah, I'm cynical ... ;)
And she tells Arnav she doesn't want her baby ... and also tells him in her hysterical speech, exactly why ... because everyone hates its father, and she will have to bear the burden all alone ... because everyone in her family hates its father ... note, she doesn't hate the father, but her family does, and her family is the one who has to look after the baby ... her baby will be left all alone ...
Errmmm ... why alone? She, the mother, will be with her child, won't she? But Anjali is always the one who needs to be looked after ... she can never really do the looking after ... Anjali has never grown up ... the pampered princess, the eternal child, stuck in a time warp.

Arnav, you really should have listened to the doctor when she said Anjali is not in her senses. I really don't know why the doctor allowed her to go back home, she should have been hospitalised under observation.

And Anjali reiterates that roleplay when she begs Arnav, like a child begging her parent ... please restore my world, bring back my husband, we were so happy earlier, why did all this have to happen?

Arnav picking up Anjali, putting her in her bed, and the way she held him back by holding his hand left a bad taste in my mouth ... almost incestuous, seeing that those actions had occurred just a short while ago with Khushi. As did the superimposition of Anjali in Arnav's arms, over the picture of Anjali and Shyam ... does it imply that now that Shyam is no longer in Anjali's life, she will make sure that Arnav is very much in it? And that she takes top spot in his life, over even his wife?

Arnav is in a bad place, stuck between a rock and a hard place ... but a lot of it is his doing ... the rest of it, is of course Shyam's. And Arnav has to prioritise his life quickly ... if Khushi is to be a part of it, and he really loves her as much as he claims, then respecting his wife and getting his priorities straight, is on top of the reform agenda for Arnav.

And Anjali is suddenly back to normal, and to Chotey ... since breaking off with Arnav didn't make him run to do her bidding and get Shyam back, she switches tactics ... after those hysterics about being alone, and no one to look after her, she now is all clinging child ... she wants her perfect world back, and her brother has to wave his magic wand and do it for her ... They were so happy till a little while ago ... kiski buri nazar lag gayi?
Humein kya ho gaya hai? Hum dono ko kya ho gaya hai?

Umm, you got rid of a scumbag scoundrel of a husband, and your brother found the love of his life ... all good, right?
Nope, not for Anjali ... she wants her fantasy land back, where her husband made love to her with his false honeyed words all the time ... so what if they were false? At least they made her happy! :-o

And unfortunately Arnav is kaan ka kachha and all kinds of an emotional fool when it comes to his sister ... and her words start stirring the poison ... I really don't know whether this was intentional or not, but like I said, Anjali is manipulative and she knows exactly how to pull her brother's strings. And Arnav is very vulnerable ...

This would have been the right time, the right place and the right person to say Khushi's words back to Anjali ... Shyam was a bad dream, forget him and move on, time always goes forward, never backwards ... you have a new life to look forward to and we're all with you ...
But unfortunately Arnav loses the opportunity ... his helplessness when Anjali begs him to restore her world robs him of all common sense ...he is as damged as Anjali is, because his fear of losing her makes him lose his thinking power. Of the three, Khushi is the most practical and sensible, unfortunately, she's the one who is always accused of being wrong, because mostly people don't like to hear good advice, especially when it's tough.

And Anjali fills his ears some more ... we were all so happy earlier ... don't know because of whom this happened ... but Shyam is her happiness, and she wants him back ...
Is Anjali delusional or manipulative? This is where my doubts started, big time ... after the first blunt forceps scene.

Could Arnav not have told her, that the happiness she spoke about was false, a mirage ... and she has to start accepting the truth?
No, Arnav failed big time ... here as a brother ... which is why, of the three, I feel the least sorry for him today. He knows, as well as Khushi does, even better because he knows it firsthand, what a kameena Shyam was ... and he failed to even make a small dent in Anjali's bubble ... or even try. Feeling sorry for Anjali is simply not good enough ... he heard the doctor say it, and he saw for himself, how shaken and delusional she is ... and now he sees again, her refusal to see the truth ... and he does nothing about it.

Mami comes and stirs the cauldron of poison more ... Khushi went to Anjali's room, and after that Anjali left for the nursing home ... what did Khushi say that pushed Anjali into taking this step?
Nani went to the temple, and Mami was looking for Lakshmi??? Really? You have a depressed, almost suicidal daughter/granddaughter at home, and one lady goes to the temple, the other on a goat hunt? And then you blame Khushi for trying to make a pregnant woman eat?

Interestingly, most of Anjali's fb's at the doctor's were Shyam and Arnav - Arnav slapping Shyam and throwing him out ... only the last one was Khushi telling her to look after her baby ... so was Khushi the straw that broke the camel's back? 

And Arnav loses it big time ... he starts off well enough, and understandably angry ... why did Khushi go to Anjali's room when she was told expressly not to? And old habits die hard ... as usual he doesn't listen when Khushi tries to answer ... when Khushi is facing the firing from his family, he keeps quiet, and when he fires at her, he doesn't give her a chance to talk?! He can't fire his Di, because she's too weak, so as usual, Khushi is his emotional punching bag to release all his frustrations and helplessness.
Back to starting point of RTR for you, my boy!!! X(

And when Khushi fires back that she went because she cares for Anjali as much as he does, then he loses it completely and says the most unforgiveable words ... all this happened because of you!

Wonder what will happen when Arnav realises it all actually happened because of him? X( And Shyam of course ...

And Arnav unknowingly spills out the poison that Anjali has filled in his mind ... everything was perfectly all right till Khushi came into their lives ... Di was happy ... happy in her delusional world, is that really what you want for your sister, Arnav?

And the most unforgiveable of all ... If you hadn't come into our lives, Shyam would not have done all this ... we would have gone on happily ... and Di would have been happy today ...

RTR mileage doubled ... no, make that tripled. Yeah right, Bitwa, blame the woman, the femme fatale ... your KJ was one sweet innocent masoom bachha who got seduced by the wicked siren ...
How can Arnav even think this, let alone say it ... when he heard Shyam's words himself, that Shyam had never loved Anjali ever??!!! That their entire marriage was a farce? Not only the last six months, mind! X( X(

And that's why Arnav goes to the bottom of the 'feel sorry for' pool today ... 

And the final words which break Khushi's heart all over again ... have forgotten how many times Arnav has done this, starting with Diwali ... You're the biggest mistake of my life, Khushi Kumari Gupta. I wish you had never entered my life!
And he leaves ... leaving Khushi completely broken, worse than ever before ... a glimpse of heaven, and then back to hell ...

Does Arnav even deserve Khushi at all?! Will he never learn from his mistakes?!
If he hadn't had those fb's and remembered belatedly what Khushi had actually done for him, Arnav would have been dead meat for me today ... but again, too little, too late ... a simple sorry, I was angry and didn't think what I was saying is not enough to cut it this time.

Khushi HAS TO break this chain of emotional abuse, repentance and make up ... the classic cycle of domestic abuse. Domestic abuse needn't always be physical - emotional abuse is even worse.
So Khushi has to walk out at least once ... to give Arnav the fear of really losing her. Apparently that cliffside incident and her near-death wasn't enough.

And I'm glad the cv's have decided to have a redemption track ... after tonight, Arnav really needs to walk that path. And the end goal will be reached only when Khushi is placed firmly above Di on his priority list, given the respect and regard she deserves from each and every member of the family, he discloses the entire truth to everyone, including his blind delusional sister ... oh, and Mami is expressly forbidden to use the words Phati saree ever again in her life! 

199 comments:

  1. Bitwa toh gayo !! He just lost all his RTRW he did.

    Ab RTRJ ke elava aur koi raasta nahi.

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    1. Sama explain puleez.... Presume he blasted bitiya big time. Btw whats RTRJ?

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    2. More explanation please..

      Sahi kaha kisee ney.."Pehley takraar for Pyaar.."

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    3. Sama its going to be a hell of walk for him .. just for the words he uttered ...

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    4. RTRJ - Road To Redemption Jogging :)))

      Well he said unpardonable things as for example "tum meri zindagi mein ayi kyoun?"....you know gusse mein pehle kaam ko bigadh te hain phir thik karte hain. He is already regretting what he said.

      As I speculated tomorrow will be the first biwi manaofyling day. Biwi is not going to give him even a milli meter after what she heard ....&after all that happened between them.

      Insaan ki fitrat nahi badalti .... Sigh

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    5. Shwets

      bring your big big dandaa to hit bitwa ... he truly deserve it today ... but I loved it .. ya am sadist !!

      but I can understand where it came from ... his helplessness of seeing his Di in this state... her asking one thing he can't give, and more over a house full of ppl who cant understand and trust his wife ... he hasn't been able to hold it when it comes to his sister ,

      I would say its not trust here .. its his helplessness about the whole circumstances ...

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    6. Anger is his middle name!!

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    7. Rekhs are we changing it to AASR now then?

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    8. Yep, why should only KKGSR have a long name? i don't mind adding Idiot in Anger also to his name.....

      Its said "Speak when u are angry and you will make the best speech u will ever regret"

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    9. ASR hi thik hai - Anger Singh Raizada

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    10. My thoughts after watching today's epi:

      Bitwa's comment abt "meeting her is the biggest mistake" is going to hit Bitya badly, and she will decide to leave him forever as she cannot see Bitwa suffering because of her. She will decide to leave RM permanently. She would be in the process of packing her bags when Bitwa would walk in and ask her what she is doing. She will tell him abt her leaving RM and the reason behind it. He will try talking her to change her mind. But she would be adamant abt it. And then the whole thing abt 6 month marriage will come into the picture...where she will mention that in few days time we will no more be husband and wife as our contract marriage is coming to an end. That's where the ME scene will happen...
      ---BKS

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    11. Sama, you bet, RTR in full measure ...

      Aaru, today I am in no mood to make any excuses for Arnav ... he, of all people knows how much Khushi has gone through because of HIM ... at the very least he knows the last 4 months of their marriage, when he gave her hell for no fault of hers ... and now HE KNOWS she wasn't at fault. His words were inexcusable ... blame the woman for attracting the guy, because of course, Shyam was doodh ka dhula before he met Khushi! I hate that mentality!!!

      As for ppl in the house not understanding and trusting his wife, well, for that MR ASR has to admit to everyone that he was at fault, right? And give out the secret of his forced marriage? That he is too much of a coward to do ... but yell at his wife to release all his own frustrations, he's man enough for that! Yeah right!!!

      And yes, they would have continued the way they were, ASR in all his gussa, Anjali in her happy bubble, Shyam happily bleeding the Raizadas fortune dry and probably continuing to have his flings on the side ... didn't he say he NEVER loved Anjali, it wasn't just since Khushi came into his life.
      And Khushi would have been the best off, she would have married a simple sweet shopkeeper, kept his home for him and spread her sunshine in her new life.

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    12. Dia
      me too no mood to forgive Bitwa today .. exactly what said below .. whatever reason was for his anger .. " the moment he utters those words of saying she was the reason shyam strayed was utter disgusting .. to me it was his only mistake .. like we said that K bring shyam was wrong today Bitwa bring shyam was wrong ..

      he needs a full RTR and khushi to allow that RTR shyam had to be brought ..
      but i still will go for his helplessness as the core reason of his outburst .. which ofcourse he has to redeem .. by apologzing in words this time .. in words that he was wrong .. repent it by giving her the respect and taking the blame that he was the only reason for her coming into his life , getting shyam into her life .. thats the day when I will forgive bitwa , that's the day when I want K to forgive him ...

      what I liked was it was true ASR in character .. the ASR whose anger is beyond any rational thinking ...

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  2. Bitwa all that RTR miles you earned in ASR style went down the drains ... in ASR style ..

    Sandy we were right .. Bitwa blasted K and I so wanted him to say this "why did you come in life why did I meet you --- for a long long time before kidnapping, at this point nahhhh ...
    i wished Bitiya would have given him back that If you hadn't given out the fashion show footages .. shyam wouldn't have met shyam..
    But then she was too broken to react ...
    But you redeemed little points from me accepting your mistake I will let you go but not K , now am all for K to walk out ....

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    1. Aaru, same here..bitwa redeemed his points a bit by accpeting his mistake! So now he is again at the start of his RTR.. he would have been into negative if he hadn't accepted his mistake.. but now that he has, he has to begin all over again!

      Go Bitwa.. there are no cheerleaders for you..only dandas, in case you make any more unpardonable mistakes!

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    2. so today, they gave a real reason for bitiya to walk out!

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    3. Jaya .... How are you?? Still in maika?

      She is going nowhere ....but BS did say in SBS ....hamesha se accha hai temporary ja rahi hai .... But with BDay coming up as given by spoiler mata .... Hope its a private one by the poolside.....&can we have our most awaited chai ki pyali shiddat !

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    4. Aaru, mads, no points redeemed by Bitwa today for me ... I need Shwetha's DANNNDDAAAAAA!!!!

      Well, we knew there had to be a solid reason for them not to have the big C yet ... subah tak they seemed to be rushing that way fast ... ab toh no chance! C toh kya, bitiya will not let him anywhere near her ...

      Now she should now do that silent treatment full blast ... if she stays on at all, that is. For me, a temporary stay at GH seems ideal ... and then Bitwa can follow, ready to eat humble pie ... after arranging a psychiatrist for his Di.

      What's this news of BDay spoiler?, Sama? Reliable? :p

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    5. dia, its a spoiler by mishti..so very much reliable! :) but I second you..I want a stay at GH too.. KKG deserves much more than this Raizada clan!

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  3. I know Sama! I mean, I was ok uptil the point where he was quite calm with her, asking her what she said..etc.. but then the thing that ticked him off was her replying back equally fiercely saying she went in di's room because she too cared for her.. but "meeting you was the biggest mistake of my life!" just had me seething with anger.. I didn't want RTR till yest...today I want K to not forgive him even after he runs down the RTR.. really bitwa, get a grip on ur emotions will ya?! :X there's a limit to which she can tolerate you like this..

    unfortunately (for us) or fortunately (for bitwa), bitiya is too easily forgiving.. kya karein, such a big heart she has! Warna bitwa toh was totally ready to get a million dandas from me!

    Luckily for him he said the last line "yeh maine kya kar diya..mujhe abhi ghar jaana hoga!" and the fact that his flashbacks began with the most painful ones...and ended with the ones of him hurting khushi and not vice versa..

    This totally explains in the promo why she is angry and upset..

    Having said this, I would say a very balanced epi.. :) today anjali was tolerable too..pitiable, but tolerable! Really, she needs to be admitted in the mental asylum asap.. she needs psychiatric help! Woman, really.. how can sab kuch be pehle jaisa?! She is one of those who totally CANNOT see the thorns in roses..sooo oblivious.. sooo dillusional.. I felt for Arnav then.. :(

    but I hope bitwa is a fast learner and realises what a grave mistake he did.. CVs, please..LET khushi walk out of RM..please let her be out of the Raizada clan with DIGNITY.. and then, let bitwa come to manao her at GH.. let her be out of his mangalsutra and sindhoor.. only then will he learn NOT to take her for granted..

    But m sure, yet again, khushi will forgive him instantaneously..

    One look, husky voice plus "I'm sorry khushi..tumhe pata hain na, main hamesha aise hi karta hoon..main jaan bujhkar nahi karta hoon khushi........" and she melts instantly..

    only I hope this time, it takes a while before she does that.. please, CVs..please!

    *sigh* Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon?

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    1. Really bitwa meeting her was the biggest mistake of your life???? Really??? I thought it was the one of the only good things that haapened to you in years!!!!
      Oh yes, so want khushi to walk out now. Let bitwa realise ki he cannot just say 'mai yeh sab jan ke nahi karta' crap and keep piling things on her....

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    2. mads..

      Agree with you .. I was ok with he getting angry and asking her why did you go .. but one line about why did you come into my life was making mad and seething with anger .. infact I was so angry that my daughter got scared .. lol ..

      Anji was not acceptable for me today ... I really can't take a women in whatever state she is to kill her own baby just because she wants everything to be same ... because she thinks that nobody will love the baby .. why does the baby need anyone else if you are strong, when you can give it everything if you want and accept .. there are house full of people who worship you .. and are ready to go to any extend to see you happy and what you want -- not the wellbeing of the baby but your husband so that you can have a happy ever after ....

      i really don't want K to back off, I want bitwa to break down infront of her and plead .. I want that ASR to jukhofy in front of her ...

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    3. see, that's the thing Aaru..anji was never, never so strong herself! It was always the people around her that were her strength and most importantly, shyam. When left to herself, she couldn't pull herself up even for a millisecond..she is that weak..which is why everybody in the Raizada clan is worried about her.. When people around her were there with her, totally involved in her happiness, she was her strongest..

      Although I can see where bitwa's anger is coming from, its totally unfair that khushi has to bear the brunt of it all ... the only thing that can console me is the fact that he can let out his anger on her BECAUSE its khushi..his soulmate .. his other half.. who technically should be the rightful reciever of his love, sorrow, anger and frustration in equal amounts.. but because we've seen very less of the 'love' part and a lot more of the others, today's scene made us angry.. but otherwise I think it is quite ok.. :)

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    4. exactly,

      she was never allowed to face the harsh reality of world.. bitwa and khushi had that .. they had to face it everyday to make other not face it hence much more stronger ...
      she was always been treated with delicate glove as dia says..
      yes the only way I can accept this that she has to bear the burnt .. being Khushi, his soul mate and his other half who takes all and returns only love like his mother said "Gussa bardash karna aur pyaar sooth samet lautana"

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    5. I soooo want a scene where bitwa lays his head down on bitiya's lap and is in agony .. and bitiya consoles him by kissing him on the forehead.. *shiddat to that*

      And amongst the two of them, aaru, Bitiya is the strongest .. she has not only faced the harsh realities of life but has come out of them all without losing the zest of life and without losing faith in people.. a true optimistic .. :)) bitwa has a lot to learn from her..

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    6. "bitwa lays his head down on bitiya's lap and is in agony .. and bitiya consoles him by kissing him on the forehead.." for that to happen, she has to be sure of her place in his life.. and forget sure, she is not even sure that she has any place at all!

      but yes, once she gets her confirmation, SHIDDAT!

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    7. Jaya agree with you for bitwa to lay his head down on bitiya's lap and for her to kiss his forehead' she needs to be sure of her place and he needs to have profusely apologised for what he said today.

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    8. mads, soulmate and all that is all right ... but this is getting too much ... a cycle that has to be broken ... this means that every time he does something in anger, he repents and says he could get angry with her because she's his soulmate? And she forgives him?

      Nope, he has to learn to control his temper and his words ... this last was unforgiveable for me!

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  4. Gul, where is the house that trust built? Is it the one that anger broke?

    Never ever going to sing paeans ever again even if someone shows me such a house again.

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  5. Dia m waiting for your post to make me feel a bit better about bitwa today! So you have a swell job to do! :P Because really, I wasn;t this angry with him even when he married her...because then, I could totally totally understand him..even though he was ruthless with khushi.. today, after knowing everything...AND more importantly, knowing his feelings and her feelings for him.. he still chooses to be the same..

    *sigh* yes, I did love it...getting angry on bitwa..and like aaru said, that anger came out of helplessnes.. but still, I can't wait for tomorrow's epi!

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    1. *loved the epi I mean... and getting angry on bitwa.. aaru m a sadist too, don't worry..

      and woh kehte hai na..ki paani sar ke upar chadh gaya tabhi tairna shuru karte hai..its something like that for bitwa.. he'd pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed her..now he is balancing himself in deep waters.. khushi isn't going to help him come out now... she is too hurt for her own good.. he needs to start learning how to swim all by himself.. and decide for himself how the hell he is going to manage a mentally unstable sister alongwith winning over the love of his life!

      The more I think about it..the more I feel that as long as khushi would live with him, he'll never feel the need to walk down any RTR..because he wouldn't miss anything as such..life is going on normally for him.. but the moment she walks out, that's when he'll realise the need..

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    2. madsi

      Ashu style I AGREEEE!!!

      he has pushed her enough and she has hurt herself enough, yes he has to understand that he can't take her for granted .. all that love and trust was because of the fear of losing her .. he has to get one like that when she walks out .. she there yet not there kind of to understand her true value ..
      I feel this was the last straw for k too ..
      you know why like-- when he asked her why did you come into my life .. because that would have been the last humiliation she could have taken questioning her existence itself .. hence I wanted this line way before kidnapping .. but now I feel that today was the right time ...

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    3. Aaru,
      Understood, they had to get out of the impasse position in their relationship...jolt him to realise that he is not exactly in a happy situation. In fact, it was a lull before the storm in the ARHI relationship...

      Also agreed, it had to be hurtful words, but just wondering about the actual choice of words...at one level it is very hurtful, almost a non-acceptance of who she is when he said that Shyam would have not done this....a chauvinistic thing to say, which i am not able to reconcile...

      yeah, he was under pressure and all that but I thot the CVs have made ASR use words that almost undid the last 15 days labour (of love, i am not able to call it, tho). It will be interesting to get this flawed hero back on track....

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    4. "Shyam would have not done this" .... ASR will be proven wrong again when it comes to KKG ... today he called her exactly that.

      Shyaam would have done exactly same.

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  6. I maybe in the minority today but I just loved the second half of the episode today. The Anjali part is a blur. Bitwa was just human today, what's a man supposed to do ? Squashed from all sides by his family members, he needs to take it out on somebody , right? Bring it on, the ME looks very interesting .

    The intensity's back , good old IPK. Better stay away from IF, it is going to be a war zone today .

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    1. Sahana ... Hugs .... My sentiments.

      Except I could relate with Anjali today .... Isn't that the norm .... Even strong women take years to decide about their KP just because he is the father of her kids .....& is Delusional Jha at its best. Even the kid part ....again true ....it takes a lot of convincing that the child has done no harm why punish it. Specially when a mother cannot think straight.

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    2. totally agree with u sahana..he had to take it out on someone..i felt sooo bad for him..everyone relying on him..seriously how much can a man take?

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    3. Rea
      exactly why I was ok with his anger till he getting to point of asking why did she go there and it was because of her Di took that decision, but the moment he uttered why did you come into my life was way beyond .. it was his helplessness .. him unable to control the situation .. the ASR who built his kismat , controlled his destiny was losing in front of it .. and who told him that DM holds his hand writes it .. Khushi .. hence his words why did you come into my life ..

      Today he in the cross roads where he has no hold on anything , and hence the moment he understands that K coming into his life was again destined, he loving K was again always written, K give her life was always destined.. he accepted his mistake .. its almost going back to K words the day when you will realise that DM wrote it holding your hands is the day when I won't be with you ... and today he questioned her very existence in his life ..

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    4. yaaa agree with you aarthi
      also i think when things go way out of hand,its human tendency to want things the way they were at one point.we become irrational.i probably understand that bcoz i,at one point,also felt how different my life would be if that soemone hadnt come into it.I would think abt it all the time and would wish k kaash aisa nai hua hota..my life would be so much better..i guess its natural..or its somethng i and arnav share :P

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    5. See he got 2 huge blow
      1. His precious Di stating it straight in his face that the child has no one.

      2. Di never had to plead for anything, today one thing she does for cannot be fulfilled by him.

      Family toh hai hi .... that's regular.

      Amidst all these helplessness one person he can rely on is his biwi ... his strength .... and he finds out she has gone and done exactly the very thing she was asked NOT to.

      Somewhere his line "tum meri zindagi mein ayi kyoun?!" felt like ... if you din't come to my life .... I would have been miserable but my Di would have been happy.

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    6. Sama, my only issue was the use of the words, Shyam aisa nahin karta....thats very convenient...how can anyone justify that....esp ASR of all people who talks of knowing VLR's intentions? That was the odd note....the outburst per se was not....In anger one says many things,some that are meant, some that are not mean and some that even if one means, are not to be said...

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    7. cvs had to butt shyaam in .... given the character sketch of khushi nothing else would have driven her over the edge ... &given ASRs character sketch its not a misfit for him to say exactly the wrong words to KKG.

      the choice of words is interesting .... and many months of discussion I read on the choice of words by the cvs in IPK makes me think it has much much more to it. I have stated it above.

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    8. Yep, I was okay with his getting angry and scolding Khushi for going into Anjali's room ... but the Shyam reference completely got my goat!!! More as a feminist than anything else ... WHY always blame the woman? And then you dare call women the weaker sex? If men are so weak to get led astray so easily, sure women are the stronger and smarter ones to do the leading!

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  7. Sounds like the house of trust was built of sand..... :( ... what is it with the Raizada bros? Kis mitti ke bane hain ye log? They really do have a problem in hearing their wives out!!! First they ask for an explanation and when their wives do start, the bros are quick to cut them off immediately and go away to sulk!

    Sigh.........to watch or not to watch is the question.........ME better be bloody good!

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    1. Aki trust is intact ....isiliye toh he accepted his fault so soon.

      Gussa is him ....what he said is not something forgivable ....but he is what he is .... He will always bigdaofy things and then mend it. That him.

      Having said K needs to learn one thing for sure ..... When your HH is firing keep your mouth shut. I know she is not at fault.

      Both has a lot to learn. This married couple will be a treat to telly. Not a gisa pita ...jo aap kahein :D

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    2. "GUSSA BARDASHTH KARNA AUR PYAAR SOOTH SAMET LAUTANA." ...this is Anger Singh Raizada ( as Sama named him)...l like it)

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  8. okay call me a sadist..but i am super happy with today's episode..its moving so fast.when i saw her in the suit,i knew we wouldnt hav to wait until sat for the promo sequence..i love arnav when he is angry..and he was very helpless today..i felt for him all through..didnt exactly feel very bad for khushi (dont hate me girls,we know our bitwa he will come back to her :P ) i am super super happy with today's episode
    the one thing tht ticks me off however is his closeness to his di..its way to much..i had a friend over when i was watching that episode and she asked me if anjali is arnav's wife :D hahahhah

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  9. SPOILERS!!!!!!! BY MISHTI
    Hellooo Frnds...

    Hzzz u all???

    In Maha Epi u ll c khushi's birthday...

    New Maha epi promo didnt shot yet...

    Njot, tk cr.

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    1. What new maha epi promo has not been shot...Ek ME ke liye two promos?

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    2. i know..weird..that makes 3 promos for one week :/ and the ghar chodna will be tomo i am sure..and he will stop her
      i am not very excited abt the bday thng though :(

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    3. Hello Hi.. Cryanji drama ko bye-bye?? :S What is it with the ME being centered around K's birthday?! I mean, I don't mind.. but something's amiss.. is this bitwa's way of starting his RTR?? And if ME is K's birthday, then I want it celebrated at GH .. with her buaji and amma-bauji.. let arnav go and celebrate it there with her, I don't mind.. but for now, I want bitiya out of RM ... atleast for a couple of days!

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    4. Madsie .... me wants it at poolside ...given bitwas situation he won't leave his Di alone and neither is he going to allow K to leave .... Phas gaye re ASR, nobody to blame ...you called it upon yourself.

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    5. Sama poolside ka naam kyun liya yaar..lots of memories! :( damn! I don't mind either as long as bitwa repents whatever he said today.. and unless tomorrow's an ArHi centric epi, I don't get it how bitiya can be in a mood to celebrate her birthday.. or will it be bitwa's way of making up to her? I wish he puts back up those stars on the bed.. :))

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    6. Rea, mishti edited her spoiler with two more lines -

      Dnt get confuse, may b Maha Epi promo wont cum...

      Khushi & Arnav wll again get marry in d shw...

      the last line... please someone tell me I am not imagining it!!!

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    7. Teej surprise wedding as described by Sandy :D :D :D

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    8. Madsi,

      I don't mind it anywhere , poolside gupta or even terrace or in the middle of the road .. I want it to be that he asks forgiveness in words this time -- saying he was wrong and he wronged her again .. that he can just let it out to her only, she is only one who understand him, but has taken her for granted for a long time .. that only when I will allow bitiya to even let him anywhere near her ..
      they say actions are better than words .. but when it comes to relations they both words and action are important..
      I am too not sure if bitiya will be in a mood to celebrate her birthday .. and how is bitwa going to do that with Di around ??? and first does anyone know her birthday ??


      I so want Bitwa to put back the stars and the windchimes.

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    9. woah remarriage?? :D awesome!
      but okay this is weird..i saw woh sethi brothers wala episode this morning..khushi is overacting in that..tabse i am kinda irritated wid khushi..maybe thats why i liked asr shouting at her..i am afraid i dnt like khushi as much anymore..someone please make me like her again..i wanna b happy when he woos her :(

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    10. Rea,
      That was one of the most OTT epi of Khushi for me too.
      What irritated me most was that in her eagerness to bring the brothers to book, she made both ASR and Akash look like number one idiots! She should have explained her actions before they were made to look like fools in front of their staff. One of those times when the script failed to do justice.

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    11. Ray watch this..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzGhfremt4w

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    12. Su,absolutely!if i were arnav,i would hav slapped her :P
      jaya thaaaanks soooo much..i loved the 'hasna bhi na jaane' surprisingly i never saw this vid before..i like her better now *hugs*

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    13. Rea .... type "arnav khushi love scenes" at YT ... you will get all ArHi scenes from day one.

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    14. Sama i have been doing that from the day i first saw the serial :) i may hav missed some other good moments too..lemme do that again
      i want to feel bad for khushi..i really bad..but i cant :P

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    15. That's the thing about resilient people ... people around them just forgets that they need sympathy too ... someone to be by their side ... take care of them.

      So true to life.

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    16. Sama agree with you
      but in my case,like i said,khushi is seeming to irritate me subah se..i hav always loved her..i am trying to find videos to love her again

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    17. Jaya that was the first video I saw after seeing the episode to lighten my mood again. the other video that I watched was this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dMl-s-w37w

      Feel much better about these two now. The boat has hit the rock but it will survive.

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  10. argh...so mad at ASR...! i mean, i could understand his anger earlier when he said "sab tumhari wajah se hua!" poor guy's been through a lot, he just saw his beloved sister about to kill her baby (and probably herself) with what looked like surgery scissors or something...and he's not exactly known for his anger management skills...but when he said "main tumse mila hi kyu" i was super angry...

    "tum mere zindagi me aayi hi kyu!" umm...u probably dont know this arnav, but she came in ur life coz u humiliated her on national television..and also met shyam because of the same reason...

    "na tum hoti aur na shyam aisi harkat karta" yeah right...coz shyam was SUCH a great guy before khushi came along, wasnt he? coz she was the menaka to his vishwamitra, wasnt she?

    "tum aane se pehle sab khush the" were u happy? no..u were busy brooding in the dark...until she came along...u both came in each other's lives and changed each other's definition of happiness...but in different ways...

    "ur the biggest mistake of my life khushi kumari gupta" that was too much...! (also u called her only KKG not KKGSR, like u had proudly proclaimed in KN house :/)

    but i was a little relieved that arnav realized his mistake soon...i know that this outburst was needed to bring up the sole root of their 6 month marriage, and i really want khushi to blast off and tell him the whole story...right from the sheesh mahal incident...and walk out and then have arnav win her back..

    Misha

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  11. As painful as today's episode was, I think it was needed for Arnav to shift his focus back to Khushi and her pain. My disappointment following the grand confrontation between Shyam, Khushi, N.K. and Payal was that inspite of Shyam's humiliating words which were an echo of what Arnav had said to Khushi in his misunderstood state of mind, he did not dwell on it at all till now since he was so caught up in his Di and her agony. Yes, Khushi is way stronger than his Di or him but she too is human. There is only so much she can bear. The poor girl has gone through far too much in her short life than anyone else in that house. Living under the same roof as the guy who lusts for you and who also happens to be your brother-in-law and in the room with the man who detests you because he thinks you are cohorts with that lustful creep was torture enough. Despite everything she didn't think twice about put her life and honour on line for the man who sentenced her without a trial. He let her face the humiliation in front of the family long enough for the seeds of doubt to be sown by the manipulative luster because he was too busy trying to protect his Di from any more pain than she was already going through. Yes, he stepped in a gave that creep two tight slaps but by then sufficient damage was already done. Did she dwell on her pain though? No, the minute she heard that the man she loved put her on par with his Di, she forgot all the pain and humiliation she had to suffer for so long. She wept for his pain and that of his Di. While there was a brief moment of remorse when he had to admit his ow mistake in misjudging her, it was still not enough to wipe out all the pain he had subjected her. Now that he crossed the line again and spat out that it was the biggest mistake to have met her (only a couple of days back he had told Nani that it was his biggest mistake to have misunderstood Khushi)he will have to think back on all the times he had let his tongue get the better of him and trudge on that painful redemption path by eating each and every harsh word he uttered in his mindless anger.


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  12. Thinking back, the very first time he humiliated her by ripping her pearl dori was when she asked him what if it was his Di whose wedding was stalled. In other words he punished her for dragging his Di into their argument. The second major blow he gave to her honour was when he forced her to agree to a contract marriage again to punish her for daring to try messing with his Di's life. Today he lost his head and control over his tongue when his Di threatened to harm herself because of the shattering of her perfect world by the woman he loved. The day he puts Khushi ahead of his Di, particularly when the latter is being unreasonable, is the day he would have truly atoned for what he did to Khushi.


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    1. Opti,

      Beautifully put. On Payash marriage, he put his Di put, but by returning back to her he is effectively putting Khushi on par with Di.......What he said to Shyam about Khushi and Di being equal is being put to action right now.

      He will eventually put Khushi ahead of Di, I guess the day Anjali assures him it is time he concentrated on his life and she will be fine and independent. Till then, it will be Di first.

      I am glad that he now has a chance to know that he was responsible for Shyam entering Khushi's life and HE is also at fault for the current situation.

      A guy like Shyam would have betrayed Anjali with or without Khushi anyway.

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    2. Opti, agree with both your posts ...
      After tonight, I'm no longer satisfied with Arnav putting Khushi on the same pedestal as Di - she needs and deserves to be placed much higher.

      If he had behaved like a sensible, somewhat rational human being when he saw Khushi with Shyam (DDR), he would have made sure that Khushi stayed as far away as possible from Shyam and Anjali after that. Instead, what does Mr Brilliant do? He marries Khushi to "punish" her, and brings her into his own home, placing her right under the roving eye of his KJ, who has already admitted he is obsessed with her. And now he has the nerve to call all this KHUSHI'S fault?!

      That part got me the most angry ... such a typical MCP and old women attitude - always blame the girl, as though your own khota sikka was one seedha saada innocent bacha who was tempted by this siren!!!

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    3. Dia: Remember what Khushi said, You complicate things and then set about rectifying them.

      That is what happened today. The difference is earlier he wouldnt have cared what he said how she felt , now that is the most important thing in his mind right now.

      If Khushi walks out, I am sure he will walk out with her cos Anjali will have the rest of the family and for TRP ofcourse, lol.

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    4. Exactly Dia,

      Why those words about Shyam......try as i might...thats the one thing that i find diffi to stomach...the trust issue is all about it...and saying that even in anger isn't it tantamount to breaking that implicit trust that u have built (atleast that is what it seemed to me)
      OK Anger was the cause....but then how will it not break again?

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    5. On pedestals there can be no other way...it has be Khushi above Di...

      Affection and being responsible for a sibling is fine but a married man cannot keep saying these are the two loves of my life....very unnatural...a sure recipe for disaster in a relationship....even with a lovely wife like Khushi, who won't really want ur middle name to be Sandwich(Shweths, love u bey, i can never say it as sweetly as u do, but i am trying)

      Anji has to step back, not lean so much that Arnav is crushed under that burden...

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    6. Opti absolutely agree with you. Today was needed for Arnav to take a step back and start thinking that although yes his hysterical Di is hurting but his wife has been through much more and at the hands of himself, VLR (DDR), raizada family and gupta family. He needs to remember every single time he hurt her, every single time he misjudged her, evey single time he abused her both phsically and mentally.
      No matter how you love your sibling (even a mother like sister) for a married man his wife comes before everyone. especially now that he knows she is innocent.
      In the game called relationships there is only one first, there are no draws in this game for a married person. Anger Singh Raizada is very fortunate to have a spouse like khushi, I am yet to see why khushi should take the pain of absorbing all his anger and returning two folds. ASR better give us a reason for khushi to return any kind of cordial feelings towards him.

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    7. UJ, you know what really annoyed me were two things - Anjali being carried to bed and tucked in, and then her holding Arnav's had to pull him back - after the same scenes with Khushi, these seemed almost incestuous ... hence my demand - Khushi has to come ABOVE Di in Arnav's priority list, otherwise the man himself will never be happy.

      D is clingy, she is weak, as long as she feels she can manipulate Arnav, she will do so ... the onus is on him to show her that yes, she's very important in his life, but he has a wife (and later a family) of his won, and his priorities have changed.

      As they have to do ... that is life! If I needed my husband and he ran to attend to his sister, I would not be happy at all! And Khushi needs his support now - she is completely alone in RM, except for Payal, who is also in the doghouse and can't help much.

      Wish NK comes back and reveals some more facts to Arnav at the earliest - he's supposed to be back next week, I believe.

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    8. Dia i agree if i was a secondary citizen in my husbands life i would not be able to take. Of course one has to take time and situation in to consideration because there are times in life when his family might need him more than i need him. But in Di and Khushi's case given the situation they both need him but
      1 di has support in other members of family
      2 kHushi has been through worse because of him
      3 khushi equally if not more needs his support
      4 ASR needs to realise he is a married man priorities have to change accordingly.
      I think 4th point is what thus track will do. Place khushi firmly above di in his life. But khushi has to be strong for that. She has to break this abuse as you say and make him sweat for acceptance in her life again.
      After watching the epi yesterday I was watched the monday tuesday and wednesday eisodes again where i had earlier felt Arnav had started his RTR in earnest, on rewatch the A and K scenes failed to move me such is the impact of yesterdays episode.

      Don't get me wrong i absolutely loved the episode yesterday. Acting was superb no doubt but Arnav's words have left me pierced...

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    9. BTW girls, what is the status on NK's visa? Is he going to be around, j-i-c, Khushi needs a shoulder....cutie pie can tell her tales of Australia while ASR blows hot and cold

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  13. Okayyyyyyyyy, I really liked the epi.

    The hospital scene Daljeet was Brilliant....I soooo felt for Anjali there.

    Danda only comes out for the Haircut not for Bitwa.

    When he spoke to her, he spoke to her as a brother.
    When he goes back to her, He will speak to her as the guy who is Passionately in love with her, her husband.

    Introducing.........Arnav Sandwich Raizada.

    Till Anjali reconciles with her situation, till she sees sense, he will react as a brother first and act as a husband later.

    Khushi will have to decide whether her love for him is patient enough to wait till she can wait till her husband comes back to her.

    Think from his pov:

    He comes after being kidnapped, throws his Kameena Jija out, sends his Di into shock, finds her almost killing herself and the baby and he finds out the very thing Nani asked her to cos Nani sensed wisely something he too saw the logic of, she went ahead and disobeyed.

    He told her she was the reason. Ha, Imagine when he finds out:

    If he hadnt released those damn tapes, Khushi wouldnt have run into Shyam be it in Lucknow or in Delhi.

    If he hadnt been a jerk on Diwali night, she wouldn't have bowed under pressure and gotten engaged.

    If he had listened to her in the first place, he wouldn't have gotten himself kidnapped and risked both their lives.


    Having said all that, I have to say this, Khushi has to decide whether she can live with Arnav Sandwich Raizada cos he is going to be sandwiched between his Di and Khushi.

    She has to decide if her love has the patience to deal with such a guy.

    And ASR has to learn to control his anger and tongue.

    Something tells me, they will work it out, it will never be a smooth journey for them but it will be worth the effort.

    Also compare and contrast the two Car journeys here:

    Both the times, he saw her Di's life shattered.
    Both the times, he thought Khushi had done something.

    Last time he remembered the times he was vulnerable towards her
    This time he remembers the extent to which she went just for him.

    Last time He went back to her with hatred and married her own.
    This time he will go back to her with the love he has and make her truly his own.

    He stayed true to his character. She will too, when she fights him back and doesn't take it lying down.

    I am really really looking forward to tomorrow;)

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    1. Shwethu,

      Huggs wa Vey bey!!

      I almost ffainted in disbelief to see a deep post from u after all the recent ulta decoding.

      And yeah Khushi needs to learn to live with Arnav's anger. It is a part of him.
      Koi tumse pyaar karein toh aap jaise ho waise pyaar karein
      Koi aapko badalke pyaar karein toh woh pyar nahi sauda kare..

      Mohabbatein movie is the cource

      And I almost jumped up in oy when he said u r the root cause..Ha if onl yhe knew like u said.

      Totally loved the epi. DB and BS were brilliant in the hospital scene. Just 2/3 days ago I spoke to Rekha about his mother's dying being shadowed by Khushi almost dying..gave me goosebumps to see that scene

      Yep can hardly wait for tomorrow.

      Btw did u see that Khushi shot getting cut to the ppol- bhoomidevi has sunkedn to the depths of the ocean!

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    2. That is not to say I did not feel bad for Khushi. My heart broke for the poor girl. But time has brought them right back to Diwali when he merilessly broke her heart by telling her she meant nothing...time to start setting things right and after all it was after that track that ASR had invested so much effort in getting Khushi to confess..

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    3. "Introducing.........Arnav Sandwich Raizada." ROFL

      When I saw him outside the hospital door staring at Anjali .... Haircut is what came to my mind, hence BG ka danda.

      BG this married couple will be a treat to telly world .... not the gissa pita ... aap jo kahein once they admit their love.

      Bitwa needs to control his anger and stop uttering whatever he wants when it comes to biwi.
      Bitiya needs to shut her mouth when her HH is firing and listen to her elders.

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    4. Sama,

      If they control tempers, where will be the chances to kiss and make up?

      Kys yaar...Oh and have you never heard, you always let rip and get angriiest at people you love the most, who matter the most. I believ in it.

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    5. Shweth, '

      ASR ka namkaran achha laga!!*ROFL*...now feel for the hundreds of Sandwiches world over...Justice indeed!!

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    6. Sandy: Rofl bey and hugs back.

      I was just not happy with Khushi walking to meet Anjali.

      Think from Anjali's pov:

      To put it decently, Shyam got her pregnant while lusting after Khushi.

      Arnav threw out Shyam cos he trusted Khushi and didn't even ask Anjali what she wanted to do.

      So as far as Anjali is concerned, The two most important men in her life have put Khushi ahead of her, You bet she is going to be upset and the last person she wants to see would be Khushi.

      Khushi has this funda of forgetting the bad and moving on. Anjali is not like that.

      WOWWWWWWW, Sandy I didnt think of that.

      All I realized that thanks to the promo, he will come back to her and she will fight back and make her stay.

      They kept it real Sandy. Was he harsh on her, hell yeah, but then when he hasn't?

      I sometimes feel he lets off that much steam with her cos he knows she will be able to withstand it and atleast fight him back to drill some sense into him.

      The question is how long, the answer is you never know. Khushi has never really experienced the love he has for. Once she says, she will do the sensible thing, wait patiently, ignore even till he cools down cos she will see the bigger picture.

      Sama: Bitwa needs to control his anger and stop uttering whatever he wants when it comes to biwi.
      Bitiya needs to shut her mouth when her HH is firing and listen to her elders.

      BINGO!!! Summed it up nicely.

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    7. shwets

      loved ASR new name *ROFL * just made me feel better ..

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    8. Ji SandyJi bilkul .... jese humari BG kartin hain ASR se :D

      I don't want them to lose their temper ... what will be left of the love story then ?? It's a learning process ... by the time serial will end ... they will definitely learn it ... to some extent.

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    9. Shwetha, Sandy,
      Beautifully put.
      Rekha, ROFL at you feeling for sandwich! I am hungry now!

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    10. Just went into IF, why is everyone so hyper on ASR?

      When has this guy ever been politically correct? I dont support what he said to her, but I can see that is him.

      Maybe I have become thickskinned after having heard so much in life?

      What Am I missing or should I be glad I am missing something?

      Rekhs: Haan bey, the ones who have been in this position at one time or the other where we have been subject to something unfair or being last in the line of consideration.

      So for me, As every mother tells you, be a bit patient, if the guy is good he will see sense and trust us you are married to one?

      Ofcourse that was ages ago, lol.

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    11. Haaawww when had IF ever been normal. I visit it since March I yet to find a day it had been normal except the Holi confession day.

      ASR was perfect for me today ... usse uska irrational gussa bhi chin liya toh ASR mein rahega kya ... dimaag toh wese hi kabi kabar detein hain.

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    12. Sama, Bitiya will never control her mouth when HH is firing ... not her style at all ... she will fire back and give as good as she gets. I am waiting for that to happen tomorrow ... she was too shell shocked today ...

      I was okay with Bitwa till the part he was ticking her off about going to Anjali's room ... he was justified completely ... and Khushi would have accepted that. Where he crossed the line was bringing Shyam in and saying it was her fault ... and then of course, the last bit, why did you enter my life?

      But then it HAD to be something huge to tick off Khushi enough to walk out ... fortunately for himself, Arnav cooled down enough on his ride to remember Khushi's efforts in his kidnapping, and realise he had made a huge booboo ... otherwise, I was almost as angry with him as I was on Diwali night ... that night I HATED him ... :)))

      I am looking forward to Khushi wanting to walk out, and Arnav having to really work hard to woo her ... he's had it far too easy so far IMO ... itna kuch kiya, phone par ILU bola, and Khushi forgave everything ...

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    13. Of course he takes her for granted ... she never really made it hard for him ... everytime he is a bit nice she melts instantly.

      "It had to be something HUGE to tick her off" that's exactly what I thought ... And if bitwa has to put K above Di ... as Opti said in her post ... there is no way that's going to come easy ... bitiya will have to be harsh on her hubbie to make him realize the extant of damage he had done... and bitwa has just set things in motion .... in her anger she will spill some beans of his deeds which lead Shyaam into their lives.

      Since the moment she took that tray to Anjali's room I am waiting for friday .... I thought it will be the last part ... but guess cvs ko humesha surprise karna accha lagta hai ... not complaining... this is much more interesting than what I had in my mind :D

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    14. Shweths, just re-read ur post..

      Were u asking if i am married to a "sandwich"?

      If thats ur question, No baby..My hubby's middle name is not sandwich.hehehe....Our family sticks together and are very close-knit and funnily, in my case, my sis-in-law is my bestest friend..yay yay, i know i talk the loudest about pedestals but frankly there is perspective...

      I was just kidding on the sandwich. The one reason i can't watch saas sagas are becos i can't relate to kitchen politics....As my father always says...nothing that can't be solved over a cup of steaming hot coffee..There is lot that can be achieved over coffee and good old conversation!!

      even ur momma's advice is great!!

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    15. Shweths love ASR new name. Hope the sandwich gets dropped real soon. After khushi took the tray to Di's room and lectured her and di went all hysterical with abortion and stuff we knew some big dhamaka was coming. I was alright when ASR asked khushi for reason to go to Di's room, I would have been okay if he had shoulded at her for going to di's room but saying what he said about shyam and finishing with saying tum meri zindagi mein kyon aai? or even it's all your fault khushi... not acceptable. Yes, ASR has a violent, bitter and down right harsh tongue but IMO he pushed his fortune a bit too much today. His words took me back to Arhi's road confrontation after the suicide track where he attacked her under the belt by saying something about good parvarish and good her parents are not around to see things............ today was again under the belt acid thrown at khushi....
      Yes khushi needs to decide whether she has the patience to stay with ASR and absorb her anger but the best sponges in the world have a capacity beyond which they can't absorb. Yes he is blissfully unaware of how he is responsible to push her towards her his KJ but he is painfully aware of post marriage situation.
      Taking for granted is one thing and treating khushi like a doormat another. ASR is sensitive person. During his parents' barsi as soon as he realised what he had done he thought about apologising. How then has he not thought once about what he has done to her since the day of their marriage? Not a single FB yet of him thinking about what he put the poor soul through........ why?
      Somehow I am reminded of the post guesthouse confrontation when she blasts him left, right and centre. I want khushi to blast him similarly again for having said what he did. that day she blasted him because he had caused so much pain to her family today i want her to blast him for agonising her right from the word go. Bitiya is very capable of doing it and there is no reason why she shouldn't.
      Anyone witha shred of self respect would walk out of that place and that's exactly what bitiya should do. Walk out, take a break from this crazy raizada clan for sometime and if she feels her life has become too bland at GH with no one MUing her, blast her, taunting her, manhandling her or abusing her then she can come back to RM.
      Zubaan se nikle hua shabd aur kaman se nikla hua teer kabhi vapas nahi liya jaa sakta. Kuch baatein bhul jati hai aur kuch nasoor ban jati hai.
      HIs realisation at the end of what a blunder he made did nothing for me today. He has no points on his RTR for me. He needs to start from zero and walk a very painful road to his redemption/repentance. This is possibly the first time I had a lump in my throat for khushi today. The woman has taken much more than her fair share and although she is the stringest of Anji, Arnav and herself there is a limit to what she should be subjected to.
      Dams are built to hold the water but the day it breaks it creates havoc.

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    16. UJ, I am COMPLETELY with you today ... you said it all!!!

      Just because Khushi takes it all, doesn't mean that she becomes a doormat or a punching bag for Arnav's frustrations - not to this extent that he can accuse HER of being a loose woman - isn'ttt hat what he essentially meant when he said it was her fault and not Shyam's? How can any woman stand her husband to say this to her?! Shyam said it, that was bad enough - Arnav too?!

      I want that fiery GH Khushi back today - I want a solid war of words where she holds up the mirror to him and tells him how HE has been at fault for many of Shyam's actions, not her.

      I too had a lump in my throat for Khushi today, right till the end of the episode ... the first time after Diwali that I felt so bad for her.

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    17. Dia its after ages i'm hooked on to an indian soap i mean after mahabharat, ramayan, nukkad, duniyaad and the works this is the first soap i'm watching. God that makes me feel old!!!! Applause the actors and the team somehow this soap never fails to live upto my expectations.
      Arnav did exactly what was expected out of him but being a string feminist that i'm i want khushi to stand her ground. Go khushi....

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  14. I think a jail is back to her manipulating ways and have no sympathy for her she has no hesitation in ruining her only brother life and happiness poor Mann is truly sandwiched gussy nahi ayega..one gets more angry when one is helpless

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    1. Step back for a minute from the love story.

      You are pregnant, hormonal and looking forward to having a family. A dream you have nrtutred for years. A baby that you have wished for year. ANd the suddenly you are dumped into teh pits of hell, told that your husband is a no gooder and he does not love you. Worse he lusts after another woman and was with you only for money. YYou do not get a chance to say goodbye even.

      Will it not unsettle you? WIll it not rock your world?

      Always remember not everyone is mentally strong to chin up and smile.

      Today when she pleaded with her brother to set things right, my heart broke for that little brother who is so helpless that he cannot even promise his Di it will all be ok. He who promised to keep her smiling always cannot even bring back her smile and grant her the one thing she so desperately wants - normalcy and her happy life back.

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    2. Haaye, Sandy I love what you've written here though I am yet to watch the epi.
      A little respite from Anji- bashing is always welcome!
      Now I hope the epi does not put me off like it has the rest.

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    3. Su,

      Anji was good today ... we got to know what she is thinking .... the way she pleaded to her bro was heartbreaking .... "tum hamesha sab thik kardete ho" both of them know it won't happen.

      The way she started ... "yeh kya ho gaya hum dono ke saath." :(

      It is a very good epi Su.

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    4. Sandy,

      I agree completely with u on this Di....
      THe outburst from ASR helps me understand Anji better in way.

      If we can justify Arnav's outburst as anger masking his helplessness, we can also justify Anji's way of dealing with her situation as one needing some time out

      Essentially two battered souls (anji and Arnav), who have been dealing with life in their own way, one lashes out, one scurries for cover to maintain sanity in their lives

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    5. Su, it was a good episode ... one which will get you emotionally invested for sure ...

      I am wondering though, Sandy, was Anjali really as sweetly innocent and childlike as she sounded, or was she being manipulative? After that near hysteria in the hospital, she comes back home half-fainting, then revives enough to hold Bitwa back when he's leaving ... and says, bring my husband back ... I want my fantasy world back ... knowing well that husband has been lusting after her brother's WIFE ... her husband has ruined not just her life, but her brother's life as well ... and she still begs for him to bring her husband back?

      I felt Anjali would start manipulating Arnav sweetly and softly to get rid of Khushi, because in her mind that's the only way Shyam can come back ... I felt she made a start on that ... it was not just innocent childlike 'I want my pet toy back, bhaiya.' If she had stopped at the 'what went wrong with our lives, why did this happen to us, we were so happy?' I might have felt differently ... even in her delusional world, she should think what Shyam's return might mean for Arnav and Khushi. Or is she SO caught up in her own self? If so, then she's self-centred in the extreme ... or maybe really damaged ...

      Dunno, may be I'm being harsh on her ... but I don't trust that woman now.

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    6. Sandy: I totally get Anjali what she is going through. Today more so than ever.

      Su: Watch it, it was good. They kept it real I have to say. This is what happens in real world unfortunately, the girl gets blamed. Thankfully in quite few cases the person concerned apologizes and makes up for it just like we will see in the show.

      For the rest, well.....

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    7. Dia,
      "says, bring my husband back":
      I am not the best person to comment on this since I've not sen it yet.
      But I always felt that Anjali might get over the infidelity issue because that is what most women in her situation'd do. And Shyam with that last longing look at her as the RM doors closed on him and all allegations on Khushi has succeded in brainwashing Anjali and it will take a long time before she trusts Khushi again.
      Might explain "what went wrong with our lives, why did this happen to us":

      I married the wrong guy and you married the wrong girl!

      She truly believes that Khushi 'phasao'fied every man in her life- Shyam, ASR and NK.

      Plus kidnap has not been proven to her.

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    8. Su, kidnap has not been proven, agreed, but Shyam lusting after Khushi has been proven by both Payal and NK ...

      Though, agree, quite a few women would forgive their husbands for the infidelity part and try to move on ... even explained why Khushi and Payal were justified in keeping quiet ... a philanderer can reform, and it's his wife's place to decide whether to forgive him or not ... So Anjali wanting Shyam back is understandable in that sense.

      But somehow the way she was pleading, in that little girl tone, set my antennae up ... the girl in question is her brother's wife ... so effectively she is asking her brother to send his wife away, so that her husband can come back ... or she doesn't care what happens to her brother's wife, as long as she gets Shyam back ...

      In other words, Arnav is to take the punishment for her mistake ... ice cream and picture frame, anyone? She is willing to sacrifice her brother's marriage, so that her own dream world can be restored. And am not even talking about Khushi here ...

      Agreed her world has been shattered, and she's not thinking straight ... but this was just so wrong ...

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    9. Dia,
      "Shyam lusting after Khushi has been proven by both Payal and NK ..."
      Remember how Shyam argued out of the divorce?
      That was the first shock she had received and he gave her the explanation she wanted to hear. "Mere peeche padi thi!"

      Who was lusting after whom?

      Anjali ne wohi suna jo woh sunna chahti thi. Infidelity happened, Yes. Because she went lusting after my husband!

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    10. Su,

      Agreed that Anji has only seen what has been presented to her and heard what she wants to hear. But if look at itclosely, Anji has had several bits of info which she has never processed conveniently.

      Anji has to accept that "i may be wrong" if that is not there, it does not matter what the she listens to.

      We are only saying that years of living in la-la land and all that cushioning has made her deaf/blind/mute
      Now whether she is doing this deliberately or now is doing this out of depression is soemthing the jury is not out yet

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    11. Rekha,
      Yes, Anjali is deaf/blind/mute.That we know for sure.
      I can only hope she will not blackmail Chhote, no matter what. She might act on strong convictions.

      I am concentrating on: "what went wrong with our lives, why did this happen to us"
      which could translate as

      "I married the wrong guy and you married the wrong girl! And I pushed this girl at you."

      Remember DB tweet to her fans- something on affections towards brother making her take decision or something. I don't remember exactly. Not going entirely by actor's tweets, but here it seems to make sense.

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    12. Well, if she accepts that she married the wrong guy, it will be a great step....then the other part may not required to be realised at all.

      The CVs are still keeping it very vague...all her actions will be like that ...where it will be an insinuation, like "i don't know who is the cause" can be read anyways....(meaning she is the one or I still don't know whom to blame) BUT one thing is very clear..she can change gears when she wants to....Anji at the hospital was very diff from the Anji in her bedroom

      BOTH BS AND DB were very gud today!!

      It is possible for CVs to take a risk with a character like ASR..becos its nuanced so well and it is brought alive so well...with anyone else, it would have been harakiri!!

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    13. Dia I agree with you completely. I felt that anji was her manipulative self In fact my hubby was watching the epi with me and his first reaction was she is blatantly manipulating her brother and sweetly asking him to chuck his wife out so that shyam can come back.
      I already could not sympathise with her anyways but today toe somehow I just could not relate to this woman at all. As I have always said she has had lots of bits of information right from the begining. She has been shown to be smart when she wants to, she also like to gloss over things where she wants to, she is down right manipulative even more so than ASR. I knwo it has been discussed that she has been manipulative with good intentions but think about the time when she brought up the AR contract with khushi so that khushi will agree to come and teach La. Good intention being only for herself and her immediate family i.e. Arnav, nani and La so that nani would accept La and A would not walk out without once stopping to think about khushi who left the job after the near death incidence at GH.
      I thought she was balckmailing arnav, giving him rakhi ka vaasta almost to bring her hubby back and I think this will go on till Arnav figures out that she is manipulating and gives her a reality check.

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    14. UJ< with you again on this one ... read my edit and see what you think. I tried to feel sorry for Anjali, to an extent I do ... but I also felt she was being deliberately manipulative, especially in that last Anjali-Arnav scene ... and her poison took effect immediately ... Arnav's accusations to Khushi were EXACTLY the words Di had put into his head! She wants her husband back, we were so happy earlier, kiski buri nazar lag gayi hai ... all very, very pointed and clever words ... and viola, that poor emotional fool of a brother of hers goes and says exactly the same words to Khushi - Di was so happy till you came into our lives!!!
      Also notice the sudden change of mood of Anjali - till hospital, it was all about not talking to Arnav, because that's the one way he always comes running double quick to do her bidding ... that didn't work, so now its the little lost girl card and bhai ka vaasta, fix my world because only you can do it!

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  15. Dia, Rekha, Gargi,
    Missed the last 2 epis, so no comment on those till I catch up.
    One point that interested me in Dia’s Monday edit was: ‘one sibling bond re-forms, while the other one cracks wide open.’
    Set me thinking on that old promo line of which I learned recently from R&R. I come back and Rekha has written this on tue:

    ‘as per the original storyline of IPK, its a journey of two siblings who will find true love/soulmates. There was also a phrase which said they would be from families less prosperous than theirs.’


    two siblings: A brother and a sister.
    ASR- the relationship that defines him most- that of a BROTHER.
    Khushi- the relationship that has required her to sacrifice the most- her role as a SISTER.

    ‘families less prosperous than theirs’

    ASR finds his true love from a poorer family.
    Khushi also finds her soul mate from a family poorer than hers in terms of understanding and forgiveness and sacrifice.

    That promo could have been about our lovebirds only since Anjali has never been significant enough to be mentioned in a promo and also that is not going to be a very interesting track!

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  16. Dia it was not Rages of Angels ... it was story of three doctors ... she gets pregnant on a 30 day bet ... at last find out that he was still on that bet when he professed love to her. Her past was one horrible one too.

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    1. Sama, I just checked ... the book I meant is The Other Side of Midnight. The girl falls in love with a guy, he ditches her after making her pregnant, she hates him so much, she aborts the baby at 5 months, with knitting needles - a very grisly scene, that's why I remember it ... because she wants the baby to feel all the pain in lieu of its father.
      Later she takes revenge on the guy.

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    2. Oh ok maybe ... Sidney Sheldon books are so similar ... as far as I remember the girl dies in attempt to kill the child .... her friend one of the 3 doctors goes into guilt for having pushed her on accepting the bet. That's how the story starts ... I killed her!

      the guy who got the doctor pregnant is punished by a goon who was affectionate towards the lady doctor who took care of him at hospital.

      Ah time to read novels again ... been ages!

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    3. The other side of midnight...a dark book...

      What was that novel which was set on cruise ship and there was some wager etc.....memory kharab hoti ja rahi hain....that was a really nice book

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  17. Very sad episode. I really cried for Khushi today :( I could reason whatever Arnav told to her or did to her in the past for the sake of MU. But now what ? Bitwa has to walk the long path of redemption and all wooing .I just pray that khushi be strong .. don't melt too fast to him.Some how I wish Payal to blast him and tell him its not she but he is the reason for all bad things in khushi's life.

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  18. hi girls, i'm good.. traveling every few days.. not much time to sit in front of a pc, and I cannot seem to open RnR on the phone, so absent a bit.

    so it seems that bitwa went back to what he knows best.. shouting at KKG..and hitting her where it hurts the most. the worst yet for ODG, because every time she gives him some leeway, he manages to break her heart. moneywads, diwali, wedding, heer ranjha.. (but thankfully this one is not so bad for me, because of the promo that promises better times. if not for the promo, i would have cried bucksets and really embarrassed my hubs :D) consider it from her pov.. she does not know the reason for his anger. as some of you girls said, he needs to take his frustrations out on someone.. and that someone has always been khushi..

    and he is right, before she came into his life, he was comfortable being ASR and his life was going okay.. his work, his girlfriend, his family.. all separate in neat little compartments... from that POV, his life was set! this girl came along and from that day, he has not had a day's respite.. his heart is all over the place, his head cannot wrap around his reactions, he tries to fight it, loses, jumps into countless follies including an engagement to a girl he dint want to marry.. and marriage to a girl who he believed to be bewafa.. now finally his head and heart have come together.. and the next day his di is committing the unpardonable sin .. and that too, all triggered by ODG.

    what to do except lash out at her? his Di wants her shyamji back.. wants her perfect world back.. everything that capsized in a day.. can he turn back the clock? all due to this one girl... and his reactions against her.. if they never met at sheesh mahal, there would not be a video of her and him.. shyam would have never met her.. and his di would still be a happily married woman.. if he had never met her, he would have never entertained the idea of marriage.. if he had never met her, he would not have to choose between her and his di, because now she holds equal weight as his di in his heart! yes, it all happened due to her prescence in his life..

    he TRUSTs her.. he completely believes her truth ... which is why he is not slandering her character now... he is just regretting the fact that they ever met.. lamenting, to be true.. others might go in front of devi maiyya to cry and rant about such injustice.. ASR chooses to shout it at his soulmate.. because she is the one person to whom he can bare his true self.

    rekha, you pointed out the exact line: "GUSSA BARDASHTH KARNA AUR PYAAR SOOTH SAMET LAUTANA." wish she had recieved that letter and those kangan with the respect they deserved.. she did not even know that those were his mom's bangles for her bahu..

    if only she knew that this is his gussa speaking and not his hate.. she does not know his true feelings, never had time to actually understand her husband..

    opti, I agree that it is indeed necessary for ASR to recognize khushi's pain. i wish he does.. until he recognizes her pain, his RTR will have no meaning.

    shwetha, i agree with you, i really liked the hospital scene of anjali( regardless of the bloopers) ...that insight into her head.. her reverting to being helpless in front of her chote and expecting him to make everything right.. i loved it! and his helplessness.. the guy who never says sorry.. now cannot say anything else.. he is totally helpless there!

    sandy, that mohabbatein quote.. wow.

    dia, i think anjali is mentally unstable right now.. not manipulative. let's give her a few days..

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    1. @Jaya..I totally agree with you POV abt Arnav.. I can understand his plight too, the thing that has me seething with anger is the fact that.. ASR, who is the worst critics of all, when it comes to judging people.. who is such a cynic, cannot fathom this simple fact that shyam would have strayed, irrespective of khushi?! He was anyways acting like a leech on the Raizada fortune..it would have taken him nothing at all to stray away from Anjali in no time.. unless he means that shyam wouldnt have gone after khushi, he would have probably gone after some other woman, in which case matters wouldn't be as complicated as they are today.. I don't know which way he means.. just that the lines : "agar tum nahi hoti to shyam aisi harkat kabhi nahi karta.." and "meeting you was the biggest mistake of my life!" are totally unpardonable for me.. :( i was almost on the verge of crying with khushi.. :(

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  19. I love the whole IPK bunch. GH new tweet:

    Gautam Hegde ?@mrhegde
    @KaranGoddwani So am thinking in shantivan Arnav carries khushi, di in arms. Akash carries payal. Shud write u carrying mami/ nani? Or Bua?

    ROFL

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  20. That's why R&R is as much an addiction as Arhi - Just saw the epi - and like you all - really liked it

    Liked Anji and her reaction - her dialogues - her pain - all very clear and understandable

    Knew ODB would loose it with KKG and I thought I would not like it - but actually - that was all perfectly in character - his anger tak!
    The only line below the belt (which i cannot forgive him for)"Tum mari zindagi may aayi kyun - agar tum nahi hpti to syam yah nahi karta!!!" - Hello Buster, what world do you live in??? (oh, you are don't - ok then!) - well my point was - its not her fault its Shyam's like you said to nani!!!

    SO i was - ok good now ODG will leave (and understandable so) - but then the episode got BETTER - He had FBs of his past (hopefully more on that to follow) AND his FB on KKG -
    Ek baat to mani paregi = Bitwa ko akal wapas jaldi aa jaati hai - so now he is all sorry

    Actually am really happy about this - was so irritated with the promo coz i felt (like i wrote yesterday) ODG was all willing all these days etc and all of a sudden she goes back- this back and forth was something i could not understand - now i know -its not her, its bitwa who does this - so now it makes sense - he hurt her and now has to apologize - and this time, he is not in danger of his life so She can take her own sweet time to be won over - no need to 'be there' for him - he can come looking for her :D

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    1. Mona,
      Yet to watch.
      But,"Tum mari zindagi may aayi kyun - agar tum nahi hpti to syam yah nahi karta!!!" - This just gets juicier and juicier!

      "agar tum nahi hoti"- Hope these were not the exact words. Are you wishing 'non-existence' on her, dumbo?
      Not had enough with ambulance moment, suicide and near death???
      And you accused HER of having a 9year old's brains?

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    2. Aiyoo, after reading all the posts and doing some bheja fryng,i understood why Bitwa lost it with Khushi esp that Shyamu remark.

      Kostin....what is keeping the C away, second night in a row..(shweths,like u say it always serves to get priorities right, sleeping arrangements are very important, i just realised)


      HH ki roasting hogi tab hi the BIG C can be kept at bay..
      HH ke chotte motte daant se thodi na yeh ho pata...Bitiya daant kathi, hyperventilate karthi .....then how do u contain these two firecrackers in the confines of that bedroom without the obvious happening..

      FEELING HOT HOT AND NOW DO NOT NOT..(ab aaya Unth Pahar ke neeche)

      Khushi will ask Bitwa to take a long hike now...(ask all the self-absorbed Raizadas to KISS and MAKE UP)

      Bitwa has a tuf tuf job at hand (and few sympathies).....we will now see how the shoe pinches the wearer.....(serves u right, High and Mighty ASR)

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    3. Rekha - I wish there was a like button in R&R. You gals are hilarious.....

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    4. Sahana,tks and hugs

      Shweths is my hilarity guru yaar....i am her shishya but i am a very long way off....but I agree the gals (u included) in R&R are just fantastic..*GROUP HUG*

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    5. Group hugs to All....

      Aap log mahaan ho :-) I am trying to learn from you gals, ove the way you guys word stuff...

      Very very humorous.

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    6. Rekha, *rofl* you made me crack up!!!

      Su, very true ... who has the 9 yr old's brains now!

      You guys are making me feel better ... I was furious with both Anjali's very obvious manipulations and that dumbass bro of hers last night! Now am looking forward to major grovel on knees session!!!

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    7. Rekha huggssss.... Your post actually brought smile to my face after yesterday's episode. Thanks!!!!

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  21. finally, a post on the timelines in narnia! ROFL
    http://www.india-forums.com /forum_posts.asp?TID=3089675

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    1. "Because he is God .... OMASR" .... ROFL

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  22. I quoted this song last week in one of the posts but i think it fits ASR today to the T,

    Kabhi sochta hoon ke main kuch kahun
    Kabhi sochta hoon ke main chup rahun

    Aadmi jo kehta hai, aadmi jo sunta hai
    Zindagibhar woh sadayen peecha karti hain

    Aadmi jo deta hai, aadmi jo leta hai
    Zindagibhar woh duayen peecha karti hain

    Koi bhi ho, har khwab, to sachha nahin hota
    Koi bhi ho, har khwab, to sachha nahin hota
    Bahut zyaada pyaar bhi achha nahin hota
    Kabhi daaman chudana ho to mushkil ho

    Pyaar ke rishte tute to, pyaar ke raste chute to
    Raaste mein phir wafaayen peecha karti hain

    Aadmi jo kehta hai, aadmi jo sunta hai
    Zindagibhar woh satayen peecha karti hain

    Kabhi kabhi mann dhunp ke kaaran tarasta hai
    Kabhi kabhi mann dhunp ke kaaran tarasta hai
    Kabhi kabhi phir jhum ke saawan barasta hai

    Palak jhapke yahan mausam badal jaaye
    Pyaas kabhi mitati nahi, ek boond bhi milti nahi
    Aur kabhi rimjhim ghatayen peecha karti hain
    Aadmi jo kehta hai, aadmi jo sunta hai
    Zindagibhar woh sadayen peecha karti hain


    Another famous song from the movie Majboor is the
    "dekh saktha hoon main kuch bhi hote hue, nahin main nahin dekh saktha tujhe rothe hue"

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  23. Today while seeing the epi at normal time, i tried to block the ASR scenes as i seen it all online, dissected it all, read posts, comments but one thing that i just could not stop reacting to is the breakdown of Khushi at the poolside....as Sandy put it, reminiscent of Khushi's breakdown at Diwali....

    A song from Sharabi for me says most of what i feel tho the song is sung from a male perspective but it epitomised Khushi today

    manzilo pe aa ke lootate hai dilon ke caaravaan
    kashtiya saahil pe aksar doobati hai pyaar ki

    manzile apni jagah hai raaste apni jagah

    jab kadam hi saath naa de to musaafir kyaa kare
    yoon to hai humdard bhi aur humsafar bhi hai meraa
    badh ke koyi haath naa de dil bhalaa fir kyaa kare

    manzile apni jagah hai raaste apni jagah

    doobne waale ko tinke kaa sahaaraa hi bahot
    dil bahal jaaye fakat itnaa ishaaraa hi bahot

    itne par bhi aasmaan waalaa giraa de bijaliyaan
    koi batlaa de zaraa yeh doobtaa fir kyaa kare

    manzile apni jagah hai raaste apni jagah

    pyaar karna jurm hain toh jurm hum se ho gaya
    kaabil-e-maafi hua karte nahin aise gunaah

    sangdil hai yeh jahaan aur sangdil mera sanam
    kya kare josh-e-junoon aur hauslaa fir kya kare

    manzile apni jagah hai raste apni jagah

    jab kadam hi saath na de to musafir kya kare
    yoon to hai humdard bhi aur humsafar bhi hain mera
    badh ke koyi haath naa de dil bhala fir kya kare

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=KTEYYWxp7QE&NR=1

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    1. Rekha you have come up another gem of a song. Aap kaha se dhoond ke late ho ye sare songs....
      The songs that has been haunting me since the episode is from Arth specially i though of 'ban jayenge zeher peete peete, yeh ashq jo piye ja rahe ho'.......

      Tum Itna Jo Muskura Rahe Ho
      Kya Gham Hai Jisko Chhupa Rahe Ho

      Aankhon Mein Nami, Hansi Labon Par
      Kya Haal Hai Kya Dikha Rahe Ho

      Ban Jayenge Zehar Peete Peete
      Yeh Ashq Jo Piye Ja Rahe Ho

      Jin Zakhmon Ko Waqt Bhar Chala Hai
      Tum Kyon Unhe Chhedhe Ja Rahe Ho

      Rekhaon Ka Khel Hai Muqaddar
      Rekhaon Se Maat Kha Rahe Ho

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3unptPIAdMk

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    2. Rekha and UJ, how do you guys come up with such perfect songs, yaar?


      Tum Itna jo muskura rahi ho is an all time favorite :)))

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    3. UJ,

      The landmark Shabhana scene in Arth is like "chap gaya pal mere dimaag mein" for me....love the song u quoted.....

      U will agree, gaane humein dhoondhte hain, hum gaano ko nahin....ARHI is a very powerful story....and Music is my soulfood, perhaps they inspire me to quote....

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    4. Rekha absolutely koi aur language samjhe naa samjhe music ki language universal hai. Gaana koi bhi language mein it never fails to communicate the emotion....

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  24. Guess she would have packed her stuff ready to leave by the time bitwa comes back from his drive. He tries to stop her reason it out with her but bitiya being bitiya does not listen to him. He probably them reminds her that she is his wife and can't just walk out like that hence she says that it's not a real wedding just a 6 month contract finishing soon. He will no longer be her hubby neither will she be his wife.... Or will arnav make the mistake of reminding her that she cannot leave for 6 months as it is a contract as a last resort to make her stay. Will it be a throwback at anji reminding her of one contract almost a year ago while him of another one now.
    Only thing is this will be adding insult to injury.
    I hope it's the first situation.

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    1. UJ, I think it would be a combination of the two. He may stop her saying that she cannot leave since she is his wife to which she will retort that it wasn't a real marriage but just a contract for 6 months. This may prompt him to remind her of the clause that in case she leaves it would tantamount to her terminating the contract which according to the document they showed in SBS is a punishable act. That may get her to tell him that then she will stay only for the period of the contract and no more. They mentioned in the SBS that four months have gone by since the marriage. That would mean two more months to go. Bitwa may then vow to make the marriage real this time and for keeps.


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    2. UJ I think later .... ASR will bring it up as his last resort and then K will just rub it on everytime he is near her or want to talk to her.

      or K might say it in anger ... husband of 6 months ... and then to control situation(!) at that moment he might say .... fine 6 months ... still 2 months left so stay put. Then he will start planning to make up to her.

      either way ASR will bring up the contract ... it's just too much of his kind a thing not K's

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  25. The contract marriage document they showed in SBS is interesting.
    First of all there is no such thing as a contract marriage as per Indian laws, but I guess ASR managed to fool Khushi into signing a 'contract' which has absolutely no legal standing, taking advantage of the fact that she may not be aware of legal matters. Considering that she got Shyam to sign a document bequeathing his property (which he will get only if Arnav dies) to Anjali, one can understand that her legal knowledge (or that of the CVs) is zero.


    Second, we got to see Arnav's and Khushi's ages. Arnav's age was given as 28 which was not surprising as this was what was reported (although Nani once mentioned that he was 26 years old). I found Khushi's age strange. She is supposed to be 25 years old as per the contract. Now did they not report that she was 18 years of age? There were scenes which supported this. Buaji says that Khushi came to live with them 10 years ago after the death of her parents. Khushi told Arnav that her parents died in an accident when she was 8 years old. So at best that would make her 19 now considering a year has lapsed since the show began. So how did she skip seven years all of a sudden? Did Arnav presume that she must at least be 25 years old given the way she goes about bearing the burden of her family? Did the CVs suddenly chicken out of showing a wide age gap between the two and conveniently upped Khushi's age?


    I really wish they would pay more attention to small details such as these and keep the facts consistent throughout the show and not come up with such glaring inconsistencies.


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    1. Gautam hegde tweets abt khushi's age...
      http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3090121

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    2. @J.. WT*?! :X :S that tweet makes no sense whatsoever..

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    3. yup he is referring to the maturity level she reached *roll eyes*... even that doesn't make sense with the OTT 101 we were subjected to :S

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  26. ROFL!!! read this line in one of the IF posts..thought worth mentioning here .. LMAO!!

    the new tagline of IPK -

    "Mohabbat door jaane na de..Di paas ane na de!" :D :D ROFL!!!!

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  27. just came across this on YT..as I was passing my time until 8 pm.. :P

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgZViIDW8q8

    ULTRA cute VM on SaRun.. :)) awww, they are adorable!!! :))

    @aaru and dia .. its by ishita.. :)

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    1. God these 2 can laugh ... no wonder they keep their eyes closed during RV

      Cute VM .... I hope someone does a part 2 of this with hair pulling and all

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  28. ok..I am on a VM watching spree today -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQQDZGMvjs

    this captures the essence of IPK perfectly!! :) what a beautiful story.. and yet there's soo much left to be told.. soo soo much more!! :) :)

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  29. Idont know if u guys have seen this but i just loved it.. sharing it here--sona
    No spoilers dont worry :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_LtG_8c1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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    1. One more--- sona
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQQDZGMvjs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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    2. thanks a lot sona.. :)) the second one that you have posted I just posted above! :) its beautiful!!! this person really can capture the essence nicely.. :) now off to watch the ArHi one that you posted.. :)

      thanks again! :)

      @all ... please watch the two VMs..highly recommended! :)

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  30. A scientific reference to yesterdays event at IF :D :D :D

    "Soon ASR will learn Newton's Third Law of Motion: To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"

    Read it last night can't find the link.

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  31. Girls,

    Not sure what khichdi has been happening here But all I ask of each of u. When you see the epi yday, think of

    Anjali as a loving wife and a pleading sister
    Arnav as a hapless brother and a doting yet demanding husband
    Khushi as a well meaning sister and a concerned yet not so wise lover and wife

    Khushi approached Anjali as the concerned wife and worried younger sister but she needs to look at it from a mother's view point too. Khushi hears Arnav's outburst as a lover but she needs to recall his apology from the night before as a penitent husband. Khushi needs a mother to advice her on how a wife needs to be patient and ponder the widespread results of her actions too. Action alone is not enough.

    Arnav is caught between being a righteous husband and a hapless brother. He is trying to balance his bit but whatever he dos seems to upset the happiness of Khushi or Di. He is unable to secure both. He wants Di to snap out of feeling alone and Khusi to snap out of her self blamed guilt. And remember this is a man who is not usedto handling wmotions well. He usually shuns such situations. Today more than anyone he needs a mother on whose lap he can put his head down and let all his worris seep through. SOmeone to tell him it will all be ok.

    Anjali wants to go back to a time when everything was rosy - things turned whacky since she has gotten pregnant and everyone seems to be hiding stuff to shield her and the baby. She is again that teenager who was thrown out of her home and pleaded with hr brother to drive away the demons in the night as he has always done. She needs a mother who will pat her head, let her cry her heart out and gradually make her see sense.

    Nani prayed to DM to bring home her 2 children (Arnav and Anjali) safely. May DM be Khushi's mother, her guiding light in being the mother to these 2 orphans who did not have the privilege of love and care like she received from Garima and Shashi.

    Arnav's ma already left her bahu portentious words - "Gussa bardaasht karna aur pyaar sood sameth waapas dena..."

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    1. I actually agree with you 100% Sandy...

      SN: Daljeet and Barun were very good today especially Daljeet.

      It was a really good episode and I really can't find fault with anyone today... obviously what Arnav said was unforgivable yada yada yada but what I liked was that it was so Arnav...

      He really can't handle emotional turmoil and he's getting more than his fair share and he always reacts like this ...totally together for everyone else and loses it with the only person who can handle it...obviously there is a point of no return for everyone but that's Khushi's problem...she needs to establish that while she's there for him he can't blow cold 350 days of the year and hot 15 days...She needs make him work for her forgiveness...he just gets all sweet and flirty and she crumbles...hold your ground woman.

      For the RTR track they needed to do this and for it to be good we really need Khushi to really hold her ground and not give in. Silent treatment and absolutely no reaction to HH.

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    2. Beautiful Sandy ... yes arnav a person who cannot handle emotional issues .... who never ever thought there would be someone in his life more important than his Di ... there is one now, he has that somebody but he cannot even hold on to that thought for a day .... a person who did not believe in love neither marriage.... moreover a person who does not know how to love .... long journey ahead.

      It took a year for Khushi to make him accept his fault .... as we saw this week.

      It will be even more tough to make him love his girl ... properly with respect and get his priorities right.

      Why is this a daily soap .... Why can't I have this story as one big fat unabridged classic????!!!

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    3. ok the fault accepting part ... he has just started ... he has got a lot to say sorry for .... hence the redemption track .... and cvs have introduced it smartly .... for months of drag there had been different opinions on RTR ....

      1.yes
      2.no
      3.does not matter
      4.redemption yes but ASR style

      Now all are united .... WE WANT REDEMPTION ka morcha chal raha hai! :D

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    4. Sandy, my problem today was exactly that - try as I might, I could NOT see Anjali either as loving wife or pleading sister ... I saw her as a lost soul and a throwback to her past, when she was abandoned as a child, and left alone on the roadside with a younger brother to look after, rejected by her bridegroom on her wedding day ... it was the fear of rejection and abandonment that was dominant, NOT the love for either husband or brother. If anything, she was self-centred all through ... how will I look after this child when it will be rejected by everyone?

      Her complexes and her total lack of strength came through the most clearly ... NOT her love, that was non-existent!

      Also I felt she manipulated Arnav very clearly ... first she refused to speak to him ... now that ALWAYS brings him running back to plead with her - Lavanya issue when she he threw Khushi out- check, sangeet issue when she stopped talking to him -check ... the moment she stops talking to him, he runs to undo whatever his decision was, just to get her to talk to him again.
      He DIDN'T do that this time ... he didn't run after Shyam to get him back.

      First tactic failed ... so now, next tactic - notice her fb's when she goes for her abortion are ALL Arnav slapping Shyam and throwing him out ... right till the very end, her very last one is Khushi talking about the baby, and she holds her stomach as though that as the only thing holding her back -

      and then what does she do???
      She picks up a blunt needle-holding forceps from a tray of surgical instruments - at the very least there would been a scalpel or scissors there, and she picks up a blunt forceps?!

      To me it seemed very clearly a cry for help - she did NOT WANT to harm her baby, or herself ... she wanted her brother back, because he had thrown Shyam out, HE was the only one who could get Shyam back. She is not ready to go to Shyam, because she would be on the streets again abandoned by her family and her brother ... she cannot take that.
      Hence her going to the doctor who knows her family, her staying on in the clinic, giving doctor enough time to call her family, and her hysterics with Arnav, telling him she wanted to kill her child because everyone hates her husband, and she can't bring up her child without her husband ...
      Whether or not it was deliberate, I will not say ... but Anjali is capable of manipulating - or to make it sound better, influencing - Arnav completely ... he is unfortunately a gullible fool when it comes to her.

      And the second Anjali Arnav scene was TOTAL and COMPLETE manipulation ... Arnav is back to being Chotey - after being out of favor with Anjali for one night, he will be so grateful for that 'Chotey' tag, that he will agree to anything she wants ... and she wants her husband back.

      Except that this is one thing he CAN'T do for her ... so he goes and blows up at the one person whom he should take into confidence, the one person whose lap he should cry in ... and the person whom he should actually ask how to deal with Anjali. Because Khushi knows what Anjali NEEDS - she NEEDS to face the truth, and emerge from her fantasy world
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      he problem is, the family is giving Anjali what Anjali WANTS ... more cocooning and cotton wool ... and bullying Khushi when she does the right thing. Unfortunately for Anjali, and for Khushi - Khushi is the wrong person saying the right thing.

      Am sure the most any of them would be saying to Anjali is "Sab theek ho jayega" ... has anyone even once told Anjali to think of her child and try to be strong for the baby? Anyone at all? It's all about Anjali theek ho, bas!

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    5. Arnav too ... was a hapless brother ... and not a husband at all ... well all right, he was a husband in the first half of the scene, then went back to being totally brother and forgot all about his husbandly side completely.

      Khushi was herself ... well meaning sister, loving and wise wife ... unfortunately no one is ready to see the wisdom of her words yet. Because face it, what is the best course for Anjali to do eventually ... pick herself up, forget about Shyam and move forward with her baby ... she has her loving family to help and support her. Isn't that exactly what Khushi said? Yes, she is the wrong person, wrong time too ... but then, she has suffered at Shyam's hands as much, if not more than Anjali herself ... so that makes her very much the right person in a way.

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    6. I have read all the posts carefully.

      I have to say this....a fictional tale with the concept of a flawed hero... an interesting one, no wonder we are hooked on to it....the ones cheering Khushi as well as the ones for whom ASR can't do any wrong. BUT its so only becos we have seen ASR in his myriad hues......we know that he loves her immensely....The gussa is jais for us only becos he is a hero....in our eyes....we believe that this man, when he loves will love like no other. I completely buy-in to that.

      Frankly, I always thot Arnav will fall in love with what he perceives as a flawed woman and go on to discover how wrong he was, bringing about the RTR....of course, I was equally happy with what the CVs offered, the trust edifice...grand idea and I loved it. But i am not prepared mentally to accept is that after all this, the words charlatan be thrown at the woman, in anger or jest.

      what is this trust that u have gained, ASR where u flunk in in the final exam (ok, make it intermediate!!) becos u have not studied a few chapters in the syllabus? ASR can still sit for the final exam and lets see if he fares better!!

      My point is, either u think I am above board or not. Don't throw it at my face at every given opportunity. I agree we get the angriest with the ones we love, out of possessiveness but lets not then tom-tom trust.

      What is this edifice that it is made up that it can be broken by a whiff of anger and then re-built with love..Ok, make no mistake, I am actually fine with it becos thats how people madly in love are, we shout, we accuse and then make up crazily but lets not call it a love story built on trust, blah blah.

      Just like today ASR can throw it at Khushi anytime in future too...Unless he understands that his life is at the crossroads becos of some choices he has made

      1) Marrying the woman his BIL was lusting after becos he loves her as well
      2) Staying responsible for a siblings' happiness to the extent that he can set aright anything in her world
      3) Making a choice between lover and sibling will always be tuf as these choices are mutually exclusive as things stand.
      4)He gets comfortable with this whole idea of being love with a woman who could be a source of resentment in his family.

      And about Anjali, well thats for another post....yeh bahut lamba ho gaya

      Aur Sorry, thoda zyada ho gaya but i had to off-load my rant, now rant over (for now)...

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  32. Guys any idea what happened to NK? Why hasn't he spoken to mami yet and clarified some of her misconceptions? I was angry with mami yesterday for doing what she did although it's mami's character and she was true to her character.... It's just that she has seen khushi's worry but hasn't stopped to spare a thought for the poor girl... *sigh*
    Jab arnav was at the peak of his anger or pushing her away most of the raizada clan loved her and conspired to bring them together pre and post wedding. Now that he has acknowledged his feelings and realises hers all of the raizada clan well most other than Akash are conspiring intentinally or not to drive a wedge in the relationship that has only started crawling as if now. The relationship is yet to pick up as hubby and wifey and attempt to walk....

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  33. Dia a very well worded balanced edit.... my thots presicely-
    A) anji I could feel bad in the hospital a bit but anji arnav scene i felt she was her manipulative self so sympathy lost.
    B) don't words to describe how cringe worthy his words were. They were down right piercing poisonous arrows. I guess he cannot say anything worse than if she was not there things would be fine, shyam would not do what he did and meeting her was the worst mistake of his life. Does ASR really deserve this innocent, patient, full of life girl? What has he done to deserve her? Things he has done to not deserve her the list is long and painful.
    C) khushi please pack up ur bags and leave. Let him realise what he stands to lose with his absurd whimsical behaviour. Please don't succumb to his sorry or just his pleading eyes or a loving touch of his hand over your shoulder....

    Dia completely agree arnav needs to come out with whole truth in front of the family and the family need to stop taunting and calling names to this lovely girl...

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  34. ok girls ASR is back to start pt of RTR and me happy, although I understand where it comes from ... I am not happy or forgiving for getting shyam in between and throwing his di's unsaid words at her ...

    but K needed this to step back and stop giving her self up.. she would have taken everything and anything till her existence is questioned .. because for her everything happens for a reason and DM writes it .. today the love of her life questioned that very thing.. if that suicide attempt had not already done with --- today would have been the day .. had k not given her life that day saving him it would have been today ..
    So am happy that she will fight again . Bitwa isnt going understand her worth till he has her but no haq on her.. she being there yet not there. RTR for arnav had to be not losing her to fate but to his anger.. the root cause of all things not Khushi not Shyam .. not destiny ...
    And like opti said he has to put khushi above Di is when he would have covered his 1/2 RTR . rest half is going to be life long one ...

    For anji although my heart went out at the hospital and breakdown, the moment she didn’t want the baby because she wanted her illusion to be intact and making her bro helpless , She has lost the little sympathy which I had .

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    1. Aaru nicely written...
      'heer ke bina toe ranjhe ka wajood hi nahi hai'.... Today he has questioned her existence wonder if a time would come during the RTR track when realises the above words....

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  35. Dia ... Description of Anjali ... Take a bow

    That's exactly her .... my baby will be all alone ... he will have no one ... she cannot dare step out of RM ... shyaam does not have the capability to afford her dream world &she cannot nourish her dream world on her own either. So she seeks the one who can ... The one who have fulfilled everything even before she demanded ... in fact she never had to ask ... she just did things her way ... "Inke taraf mat dekhiye, ye kuch nahi kahenge" referring to A when she asked K to join them at breakfast.

    But keeping Anjalis character sketch away or maybe not... I could sympathize with her yesterday ... a psychopath father, whom nobody respects ... trying desperately to cling on to the happy times but not being able to... asking the one who has always set things right no matter how ugly turn their life took.

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    1. About khusdhi

      "Khushi HAS TO break this chain of emotional abuse, repentance and make up"

      Transformation of shaitan to rajkumar .... she has accepted her love for a beast not prince charming.... she is the one who will make him a rajkumar ... it will happen when he will learn to respect love &bond of marriage ... moreover learn HOW to love

      Gol Gappa Ve works but it will work much better if it is not a sorry tune ... he will have to learn it.

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  36. Oh boy! that's me ... Damn!

    http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3090348

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  37. Guys DABH is at a TRP of 5.3...wow IPK can never really match that...target audience is too net savvy...

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    1. Gargi they were at 5.9 just before IPL .... That's when the abuse session was at peak ... all promos were about her MIL insulting her ... in between they tried to bring in her dream of becoming an IPS - the original story line... that's where they went down to 4 (this is after IPL)... hence dropped the idea again I guess or maybe taking it slow.... last I saw she was teaching her husband how to exchange greetings in English ... preparing him for a competition ... I have to admit ... I liked the scene ... but then it moved to her MIL so I turned TV off.

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    2. You know, I had hopes of this show ... a woman studying, being encouraged by her husband ... and it has degenerated into the very WORST kind of saas bahu crap I detest !!!! All about a woman now being supportive of her husband to become the world's best halwai!!! :D :D :D

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    3. Dia *ROFL*
      I haven't really seen the show but the punchline suggests it's about why always a girl is behind a man's success, sometimes men can be a reason her success.........

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    4. Btw, there were reports that they are going to Singapore for a shoot and i also saw visuals of the woman (gasp! in a saree) in what looked like the Marina bay res...and yesterday i saw for a few mins where they are still showing them leave for Singapore...itne advance mein shoot karte hain kya?

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  38. Tubelight moment:

    Mona had asked 11th or 12th july is an anniversary of the Guest House epi - so what will happen.

    That day Arnav unknowingly committed a mistake for which Khushi ripped him apart without hearing him out.

    Today she unknowingly committed a mistake for which he ripped her apart without hearing her out.

    That day Nani, Mami and Anjali witnessed the whole scene. That day Khushi's life had been in danger.

    Today Nani, Mami and Anjali played a role in culminating the event. Today Anjali's life had been in danger.

    In both cases Arnav Singh Raizada acted in haster and repented it later.

    That day ASR followed Khushi to the basement storeroom and tried to apologize only to have her tell him she will be leaving his life forever. She would go away to Lucknow.

    This day ASR is going to apologize in his house only to hear Khushi tell him that she will leave his life forever once their 6 months contract is up.

    That incident had resulted in Khushi distancing herself from Arnav but they had bumped into each other on Teej and he unknowingly broke her fast.

    This incident too is going to result in Khushi distancing herself from Arnav and something is so gonna happen on Teej.

    SN: 30 I had said was the anniversary of pearls - that night when Arnav broke her pearl dori in response to her question on what would you do to the person who breaks your sister's wedding -he had said he would destroy that person. Why do I get this tingling that by the end of this month, ASR is going to set out to take revenge on Shyam in earnest?

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    1. Sandy, true .... except that I will not accept that Khushi alone committed a mistake here.

      IMO, the entire Raizada family is committing a bigger mistake ... the ones who should be saying something are keeping quiet, the ones who should keep quiet are trying to talk ...

      And again, Anjali's life was never in danger ... that of her child maybe ... and that too, only MAYBE ... I am not completely convinced about that either. Like I said, it was her cry for help ... not actual intent to do anything. It was her cry for someone, anyone, to restore her little fantasy world ... at the moment that is all she can think about ... that her castle of dreams has collapsed so suddenly and completely around her. And that I do feel sorry for her for ... even though I feel she brought a lot of it on herself with her 'deh kar humne andekha kiya, jaan kar hum anjaan bane' attitude. Which she is still coming out of ... but then it;s very early days yet.

      The rest ... I HOPE it plays out the way you have said ... Khushi keeping her distance, Arnav going crazy trying to get her back *rubs hands with glee* ... and Khushi giving him a VERY tough time ... PLEASE Khushi, Don't melt into his arms this time!!!


      And yes, something is definitely going to happen on Teej!

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    2. I meant ... she is still NOT coming out of ... her wilful blindness ...

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    3. Sandy going back to guest house scene this is how I picture today's episode to be......
      Arnav comes home from his interlude with the car. Khushi is all packed to leave. We have the promo scene then. Hearing arnav say he wants to mek her his forever Khushi goes
      'kyon Mr Raizada aur kuch kahena sunna baki hai jo aap humein zindagi bhar yaha apki patni banakar rakhna chahte hai. Aur kis baat ki saaza dena chahte hai humein? Shyamji ka hamari zindagi mein aana aapki galati thi. agar aapne woh videos TV per nahi dikhaye hote toe shyamji hamari zindagi mein nahi aate, agar aapne diwali per wo nahi kiya hota jo aapne kiya toe hum ne shyamji se sagai nahi ki hoti, agar shaadi wali raat aap humse ek baar puchte shyamji ke bare mein toe hum aapko sari sachai bata dete, agar hamari baat sun kar aap airport per rukh gaye hote toe aap kidnap nahi hote aur itni badi baat gharwalo ke samne aise bahar nahi aati........'
      She is very capable of doing this. Let's have a reprise of the GH episode.

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    4. Indeed, Sandy, events repeating in IPK.
      "Arnav Singh Raizada acted in haster and repented it later.": When has he not, when it comes to her?

      "what would you do to the person who breaks your sister's wedding?": You know what this line reminded me of instantly?

      Khushi telling Shyam that she wants him to divorce Anjali because that is what will hurt ASR more than taking all his money.

      I am wondering if that dialogue will be repeated later, and if so, will it be by her or Shyam? And who will be the recipient of this info, ASR or Anjali?

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  39. Dia read your edit see my comments above.
    another song I have been listening to since yesterday's episode......

    The poem

    karte hain jis pe ta'an, koi jurm to nahin
    shauk-e-fazool-o-ulfat-e-nakaam hi to hai.

    dil na-umeed to nahin, na-kaam hi to hai
    lambi hai gham ki shaam, magar shaam hi to hai.

    dast-e-falak mein, gardish-e-taqdeer to nahin
    dast-e-falak mein, gardish-e-ayaam hi to hai.

    The song

    ye safar bahut hai kathin magar
    na udaas ho mere humsafar

    ye sitam ki raat hai dhalne ko
    hai andhera gham kaa pighalne ko
    zaraa der is mein lage agar, na udaas ho mere humsafar

    nahin rahnevaali ye mushkilen
    ye hain agle modh pe manzilen
    meri baat ka tu yakin kar, na udaas ho mere humsafar

    kabhi dhundh legaa ye kaaravaan
    vo nai zameen naya aasmaan
    jise dhuundhati hai teri nazar, na udaas ho mere humsafar

    I think the poem is by Faiz Ahmed Faiz not ure but in 1942 a love story the poem has been said after the song........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOxBxFoz2E

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  40. Dia: loved your edit and especially thanks for putting in words what, I guess, most of us feel right now. I haven't had a chance to read all the comments, which I will, later on. I would only disagree on ASR's RTR - I think it should be squared or quadrupled - doubled is too mild! I really, really do hope Khushi walks out on him and keeps her distance from the entire household for some time to come - let him earn her respect, for he seriously does NOT deserve her at this time. Probably the fact that she returned from death is good enough for him to take her for granted....he has as yet to learn the meaning of word "respect".

    Anjali is a damaged person, and as such, people like her excel at manipulating those around them to fulfil their wishes...she is doing exactly the same and no-one wants to believe otherwise. Honestly, they do deserve someone like Shyam in their midst as false happiness is what they cherish!

    Kudos to the CVs for lifelike portrayal of characters..bravo!...

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  41. Girls:

    Chew on:

    What is Khushi's main objection to this marriage?
    1. That Arnav seems to hate her guts
    2. That he married her the way he did
    3. That he does not care for her as a wife
    4. That he married her for 6 months and made it a contract

    Where did he marry her - in the temple in the dead of the night.
    Does any of the family object to or suspect that they are not married?

    Now, when she hits him with the yeh shaadi shaadi kahaan hai contract hai, tell me ASR currently in his ASR avatar is most probably going to do what?

    And btw what is Khushi going to object to that has been happening in recent times bringing up the shaadi shaadi kahaan hai Q.


    SN: I hate it that ASR gets into the sory just when my work goes crazy.

    That Shyam waala dialogue - one more viw - kaash tum nahi aathi - kaash you did not come into this house; kaash i had not married you. Hence thelast retort I wish I had never met you KKG

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    1. Kya, sandy, how can u get busy when ur vishesh tippani is required at this critical juncture...not fair....

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    2. Right now, the objection is to the fact that he treats her like a doormat. Can I at least hope that she plans to do what she should've done long time back- UP AND GO!

      But I did feel this, when she was looking into the pool. She felt ASR meant every word of what he said and did she even suspect that there might be some truth in what he is saying. Would Anjali be really better off and ASR have his peace of mind if she left?
      That question she asked when the kundali guy came on TV. What did he marry her for? She had no clue then.
      Now she knows it was for Di. Now the truth is out in the open and he is allowing her to tag along. "Aap lavanyaji se pyar karte hain... aur hum..."
      When did he tell her that he loved her?
      1. Holi 2. ILU 3. Arhipathy. And was he crystal clear any of those times?
      Are they going to be stuck in a marriage that started off only as a contract? And is she going to be a doormat all the time?

      And what is ASR going to do?
      Will he tell her,"I've always loved you, Khushi and only you."? Unlikely in his current avataar where he seems to be saying I own you and I will do as I like and get what I want.

      Anyway, she seems genuinely angry and I hope she gives him a good dose.
      Only, where did all the Arhipathy go? I guess it is activated only when they are away.

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  42. There are so many people for Anjali's support..Arnav, Nani, Mami, Akash,kushi, Payal. But when every time kushi gets hurt, she is bearing the pain and hurt all by herself showing a smiling face to all.

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  43. Bahut nainsafi hain.....

    SBS - YRKKH is showing visuals of marriage of an elderly couple aur hamare pyare bacchon ko kya.....ek acchi shaadi bhi naseeb nahin hui

    Sandy teej mein nice surprise milega na?

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    1. Such mein Rekha ... bohut nainsaafi hai!!

      NK is shooting today .... his latest tweet.

      I need help pronto ... I am not liking DB!! no matter what she says ... she was talking about tweety bird in SBS still :S

      Is this what she negotiated with PH for ... I am AMs Co .... I should get equal floor to 'love to hate' by fans only in her case its becoming a 'hate&hate'

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    2. Sama,

      Can't say what she negotiated for but mere kaleeje mein tab thand padegi when Arnav and his folks understand this unhealthy obsession of Anji with "everything should be alright with my world or else bro, can u make it so?"

      It has to be realisation for all in RM and I hope the PH is upto it....I can't bear that Arnav/Khushi keep sacrificing and then one fine day Di has her eureka moment and she starts accepting that Arnav and Khushi are the best thing to have happened in her life.....There u go, chotte and Khushiji, u have my blessings now...u can now be happy, u have my permission

      I will be very happy if DB has negotiate with the PH to give her role some real value by portraying a person who is depressed but makes an attempt to come out of it becos of the efforts of her bro/family.....not someone who gets tired of being depressed and then decides to be happy...

      There is a world of difference in the two and what it can achieve for the ARHI story...

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    3. Matching your sentiments about ArHi sacrificing:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBwA19rdac&feature=youtu.be

      About DB negotiating with PH, this may as well be the reason:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p78SOps_LWs&feature=player_embedded

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    4. Sama,

      *rofl*...ab mannats ka reason samajh mein aaya

      Now i also the reason why Shyamu did not make one call after being kicked out of the RM madhouse...

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    5. Sama: *rofl* I thot Shyam's body building exercise over the past year WAS so that he can his wife a "lift" /// :) Bechara ASR, carrying featherweight KHushi is one thing, carrying Anjali Jha is another............

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    6. Have you guys seen this one? Another classic *rofl*

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkFP4zN2lo&feature=relmfu

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    7. Yes Dia ... I think I did post this on Thappadwa Ve cont.

      Rag1ni .... She is brilliant :)

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  44. oooooooooooo this is going to be interesting .... The great ASR is going to ask for help .... woh bhi NK se .... Bhuwahahahahaha

    http://www.india-forums.com/tellybuzz/wassup/12247-arnav-to-woo-his-lady-love-in-iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon.htm

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    1. Madsie I think you are going to get your shiddat of BDay at GH

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    2. Thanks Sama ,

      So the birthday is in conner and not the next day .. Bitwa ab aayana truck pool ke niche .. talking help from NK it would be fun .. i just hope that K leaves and its in GH i so don't want Raizadas going all J and ruining it... espl with mami around I would love to see NK and buaji interaction here ...

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    3. and oh since I am still stuck with chai ka payali under the stars .. can we have that pls at GH ??

      a cake cutting with just two of them under the stars would be cherry on top ..

      i so want K with her chai talking to her parents and bitwa comes there ...

      me having making of khalyi pulao .. already ..

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    4. very much Aaru .... GH mein toh damad ko koi disturb bhi nahi karega and K won't have to take care of her surrounding .... One bed aur iss bar toh no Arnav rekha .... aur ho kar bhi konsa teer mar diya tha :D

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    5. O u romantic souls.....

      May all ur shiddats turn true!! and may R&R turn Gloatwa Ve Zone very soon!!

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  45. On Teej:
    ‘A newly married woman returns home for her first Teej’.Hmmm.…

    Teej is falling on 22nd July, Sunday.
    Shyam left on July 9. Going by Sandy’s number theory, he returns after 15 days. That’d be July 24th!(Eewww… so soon!)
    Does that mean ASR and Khushi will be in GH on Teej and Shyam will be back in RM for Anjali’s Teej?

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    1. Ewww it is ... but it makes sense that Shyam will try to return for Teej, and will try to sneak in to see Anjali without Arnav knowing. Easier for him to do if Arnav Khushi are at GH. And so Di's delusional state continues ... as Shyam poisons her mind further about Arnav being completely in his wife's control, and not even giving him a chance to state his case.

      If DB has negotiated right, and Anjali is to get back to any semblance of normalcy, she has to see Shyam's true colors while she is still pregnant. So he starts the poisoning, and Anjali's unconscious manipulation and emotional blackmail become more deliberate, being guided by the master, Shyam himself ... Then he makes an attempt on the life of her child, or whatever - some slip, that gives him away finally to Anjali ... because SHE has to be the ultimate executor of Shyam.

      That would a be far better way to develop Anjali's character as well ... and redeem her for the pain she will most certainly cause ArHi in the next few days ... She realises Shyam's true colors, deal with him and finally emerges stronger and more stable, and better able to deal with her past and her complexes ... that it was not about her inadequacies, but about Shyam being a truly evil man. And then sets about helping Arnav to restore Khushi's image in the eyes of the rest of the family.

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    2. Oh please no, not so soon! I hope Shyam is out for a couple of months so that when he does deign to return, it will be with a bang! It will give him time to cook up something really devious and, hopefully, add a blast from the past too.

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    3. Dia,

      thats a nice graph u have given Anji and we have always been saying that Shyam needs to be punished by Anjali more than anyone else becos he is her culprit first and foremost...

      Khushi and Arnav will have ways to deal with him, in any case, and they have already started doing so..or done in some measure.

      The only thing that i also want is that this state that she is in, manipulated or manipulative should be driven home and known to Arnav and he should be able to see thru....HE is the hero in teh story....he can't always be led by the noose all the time, Khushi ke saath jo hua nahin pata, shyam ne jo kiya nahin pata...di kya rahin hain, kyun kar rahin hain nahin pata.....that will be the ultimate tragedy......

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  46. Your edit was excellent no stupendous congrats ,I only hope Asr does not allow entry of creeps .he has always succumbed to his di blackmail and suffered humiliatiion. Call Khushi back for la etc etc now he should be man enough to tell his manipulating sis that is not not possible or better still he starts spending more time in office and sees less and less of rm wasis the should grow a backbone now hope all you great girls on rr think about it hero hai to much. Herogiri bhi to dikhajye

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