Tuesday, May 29, 2012

29/5 - 263 ... And the Tubelight flickers brightly

Tuesday 29th May

 
Should I start with the bloopers of the day? ;)
- Didn’t the guard see that the lock was open? Or did he get in from another door? Or did MR and PS Bond manage to lock the door behind them?
- Why didn’t the guard just switch on the light, rather than use a flashlight?
- MR and PS Bond left all the videos lying around next to the player? So won’t anyone suspect the next morning that there was a break in? or don’t they care?
- Which generation vcd player was that? Or rather, which century? I should have mentioned this yesterday itself …
- Why didn’t they use the gate to leave? And how DID they leave?

Finally Mami and Khushi start thinking about the ransom demand … or lack thereof. And Mami’s detective novel reading comes in handy … to raise Khushi’s suspicions finally about Shyam. And she checks his phone. And finds that he made a Rs 5 lakh withdrawal recently ... what for?

That was one conphuuused dhobi! :))

Gotta check what Mami and Khushi have been eating recently, which got their brains moving so swiftly. Not the same diet as the rest of the family for sure. :))

One mandatory Arnav scene, where he hallucinates about Khushi … and has major regret-laden fb’s. So his RTRW started? And did that last dress of Khushi’s even have pompoms on the sleeves? Vaise, his tubelight has started flickering too ... literally as well! :))

Mami had a few one-liners again … coming in the update. 

Laxmi to the rescue … she lost weight! 

And Khushi finally goes against the grain of all serials, and actually overhears something useful … so she will follow Shyam to the hideout … and get caught … and rescue Arnav … and get rescued herself … we have a busy night ahead … 

Oh there was a Payash scene in there somewhere, where they actually looked animated for once :)

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Have pointed out the bloopers already, so no more blooper talks from me :))
 
Episode continues from yesterday as Mami and Khushi watch 4 MIB trail Arnav, one taps him on the shoulder, and they leave with him through the Exit … with few stops and starts … why is he leaving the airport?
Would like to know what the men said for Arnav to leave so peacefully … and why they didn’t arouse any curiosity at all in the airport … they looked very suspicious indeed! Where was airport security in all this? 

Guard finally wakes up, so Khushi ejects the tape quickly, both women escape, Khushi runs back to get the tape, another near miss with the guard … this part was a bit stretched … and Mami and Khushi finally make their escape.

Back home, the next one-liner from Mami  …‘pairwa dard kar gaya … action scenes karte karte …’

And the next piece of the puzzle clicks into place … Khushi realizes Arnav has been kidnapped … but where is the ransom demand?

Sweet!!! Mami rushes to get her bank account details and jewelry, ready to pay for ransom …

But Khushi reminds her that there has been no ransom demand yet … so the men wanted Arnav, not money, they didn’t let him board the flight and took him out of the airport, which means he’s still in India, and probably in Delhi itself … more and more pieces joining together … and Mami puts her finger on the crucial question … what is the motive? If it’s not money?

Khushi determines to get to the bottom of this … and find out more about the kidnapping …

And finally Arnav makes an appearance … haggard, disheveled, tied up to a most uncomfortable looking chair … poor man, has he been in that chair for the last week? And in that sorry state, he reaches out to the best thing in his life … his wife … caring, concerned, tears in her eyes, so worried for him … a small smile touches his face, he reaches out, but can’t touch her, even though she’s within touching distance … he’s held back by the ropes binding him, the ropes of deceit, lies, ego, anger … 

‘Khushi? Are you really there? I thought it’s a dream …’
And she reaches out to caress his face lovingly, she can’t break those ties, but she’s there for him always with her love, her care … he turns his face into her hand gratefully, his smile peaceful … because she’s there. 

But she’s incurably truthful even in his dreams … ‘it is only a dream …’ and she disappears … 

And he’s shocked, left looking around for her … where did she go? He needs her … but she was only a dream …

And he looks at his hand, holding a little pink pompom … and remembers taking it off her sleeve when he took his ticket out of her hand … she begged him ‘don’t go …’ but he didn’t listen to her … his eyes close in anguish … why didn’t he listen to her?!

And he remembers the way she took care of him when his sugar levels dipped and he fainted … staying up the whole night … for him … holding his hands when he would have fallen …

And what did he do? Smashed their picture …. Shattered their chances of a perfect life together … hurt her at every opportunity … never listened to her … why did he do that? To her … to himself … and to them …

Regret, guilt, recrimination … the first shaky steps on the RTRW … memories of what she did for him … and what he did to her … 

Payash were bland as always … slightly better than usual, but ArHi don’t give anyone else much of a chance to grab any eyeballs … Payal much more animated than ever before, Akash trying to do an ASR … not quite there, mate!

Mami and dhobi … poor dhobi subjected to Mami’s interrogation … man was petrified! Khushi tries to interrupt …
‘Do not interruption in inbheshtigations …’ and dhoabi is allowed to ‘takliya …’ 

And Mami gives Khushi an important lesson in kidnapping and detectivegiri … ‘no ransom demand yet, so the kidnappers don’t want money. So what do they want? There has to be a motive. So keep eyes and ears open … and anyone could be a suspect … the most important thing is to find a motive, find a ‘why’, a motive, a reason, someone to benefit … then the ‘who’ will fall into place … it could be anyone … ay bhi, o bhi, dho bi …’

And Khushi’s eyes falls serendipitously on Shyam climbing the stairs … would he have a motive for making Arnav disappear? Arnav knows his truth about Anjali, Shyam also knows that Khushi has told Arnav her side of the Shyam engagement story … he would be scared of the truth coming out ...

So Khushi disappears to start some more investigations … and finds Shyam’s phone lying unattended … which has a mysterious message from a bank that he withdrew 5 lakhs recently … for what?

My question … first, where did Shyam get that money? He was struggling to pay 75,000 for a watch, and 40,000 for his card bill … did he receive an advance payment for services rendered?

More and more I suspect that Shyam is not the mastermind, only a pawn, or go-between. Which would explain why he has done nothing about the will yet, except to keep it safe. He only needs it once the actual mastermind has done what he wants to do with Arnav, either make him disappear permanently, or kill him. 

Klutzy Khushi as usual can’t leave a room without knocking something over, Shyam is suspicious … and Laxmi redeems herself somewhat by allaying his suspicions … helped of course by an alert Khushi … 

Khushi stops to thank Laxmi, instead of fleeing for her life … and overhears a conversation that Shyam did not want overheard … an angry Shyam ... 'I’ve told you not to call here at this time! And how can you be so careless? Don’t let that man out of our clutches …'

And Shyam tells his caller to bring the unknown person at 8 pm to their ‘place’ …What for? 

And Khushi wonders . who is he going to meet? Who’s he talking about ‘pakad ke rakhna’ … and what place?

Is Shyam planning to hand over Arnav finally to the mastermind in return for some promised money? 

Precap – Khushi runnin’, runnin’ …


75 comments:

  1. really good episode. even knowing the outcome, I was gripped to the seat. loved mami's selflessness.. and then adored the hilarious dhobi inquisition.

    at long last, akash seems interested in payal!! I really liked their scene today..

    poor bitwa.. made me want to wrap him up and console him (like a child, mind you MIG girls)

    all in all, really well done, CVs.
    p.s. lakshmi also changed!! did the other lakshmi elope with the other HP??

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    1. "did the other lakshmi elope with the other HP??" *rofl*
      opposites attracts ... this laxmi is slimmer ;)

      Awwwwww bitwa .... I thought khushi would so that !!

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    2. Jaya,

      Sharp eyes.....laxmi par bhi nazar hain tumhari.....sahi BBE ho tum!!

      My fav scene the Dhobi inquisition....sab shak ke daayre mein hain..gud....
      btw why was Shyam walking in that odd manner...kuch muscle pull ho gaya hain kya?

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    3. Sharp eyes, Jaya ... all I noticed was that Laxmi had lost weight ... and that was after reading your commentwa!

      Aww, mami gets all her jewelry and bank account promptly, ready to pay the ransom ... that was sweet!

      Rekha, I don't pay attention to Shyam's walk or twitches, so can't say :)))

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    4. Jaya ki jai ho!! You managed to differentiate between the two lakshmis and Ek main hoon, who takes a sec to realize if people are twins.

      Mami's was the best scene, very practical...which is why her not involving Mama or Akash baffles me.

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  2. the lamest security guard ever!!! after 3 power packed tuesdays seemed a bit pheeka but khushi has started doubting shyaam.

    Is it me or abbas has slimmed down, I had my doubts yesterday but yes he definitely looks slimmer than usual.

    Arnavs hallucination .... he was happy to see khushi and actually asked her whether this is a dream "kya sach mein tum ho?!" .... khushi replied "yeh sapna hi toh hai arnavji"

    As its from Arnavs point of view ..... does that mean he believed khushi has spoken the truth.
    As much as he loves khushis antics its the mature and sensitive khushi that he loves ..... then KAHEEEE Arnav bitwa Kaheeee ?!?!?!

    I am interested in what those 4 "guards" said to him for which he went so easily as being escorted out.

    Mamiji she always wins heart when related to Arnav/Anjali.

    As for her son .... Hailaaa .... Payaliya tricked hubby dear to take her to movie .... koi bahari help ke bager !!!

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    1. with bitwa's FBs, together with hallucinations, i think he is slowly reaching his own realization.. ASR and arnav are finally becoming one in regard to his khushi.. (they needed to starve the dimaag for a few days for him to finally see reason in his dil :D )

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  3. Did shyaam withdraw 5 Lac ... How???

    RN: did PSH timing shifted from 7:00 to 8:00

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    1. I think PSH time has changed ... it aired later than usual today. But I thought that was because of some ME on Zee ... the episodes air a day late here.

      Yes, where did Shyam get 5 lacs? I thought he didn't have 75,000 to buy a watch?

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    2. reptilewa getting 5 lacs.. here i have a feeling that your theory is correct, Dia.. he got the money from someone else.. and used it to hire the goons?

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    3. ok he go it from somewhere but they need to let us know about it ..... hamari understanding par kyoun chod dete hain!

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  4. hey anyone see the new promo :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nDDGBayTZi0

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    1. Thanks, Mona ... and in continuation with the discussion on dress - Khushi is in red here.
      Conphuuuuusion ... have to wait till tomorrow.

      On another note ... believe the TRP's are up already :))) Although from some very unheard of site ... confirmation will come tomorrow, I guess.

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    2. thanks for the link .... new promo already .... our PH is suddenly very active .... shooting with 2 team .... promo every week .... building episode bank.

      Thank You PH !! Lage Raho :D

      & that was one good and intense promo .... clean &crisp.

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  5. I liked today's episode but I think it's getting dragged now. It's high time they show some proper Arnav scenes.

    I'm really enjoying Mamiji right now but even that can hold out only so long. Before this week is over they really need to get Arnav back in action.

    Barun! Do you hear me?? Return to shooting ASAP... Hmph

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    1. gargsie, they are showing it as fast as possible.. she should have started the search last week.. but got delayed.. see bitia went to the airport, got to the godown, caught the 'nappers all in 2 epis. now i guess in another 2 epis we will see the SBS scene.. so dont worry!

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    2. Gargi...i think things are going pretty fast at RM but nothing from bitwa's end is what is bothering me(more than two weeks passed since his kidnapping)as u said need some proper Arnav scenes...

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    3. Gargi, Barun is back to shooting already, witness the slew of SBS segments we're getting ... but they have to show her finding out with at least a semblance of logic! Must say, I didn't think much of her connecting Shyam with the kidnapping today ... it was a bit out of the blue ... shouldn't she connect the missing papers, he has stopped asking her for them and then wonder if he is being fishy? Or is that because I had it firmly fixed in my mind that that was the way it would happen?

      But Ayesha raised a vaild point - she is in a different outfit for the milap - and the latest promo also shows her in that outfit ... but the precap she was in orange ... so me confused ...

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    4. yes....what was that red "dress" herring? very chunfused!!

      On Khushi's thinking, it seemed more of a serendipity, if u see mami was blabbering and Shyam was right in front of her doing that silly catwalk err... climbwalk

      They just show her connecting it with him....but i agree it was lame....more like catching straws

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    5. she had connected sham to the kidnapping when he taunted her about "arnav not gonna call her".. i think thats all she needs to smell something fishy..

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    6. Agree with Jaya - she just needed something like Mami's comment about "if kidnap motive is not money, then what else?" + "finding motive will give a clue of kidnapper" for it all to click and raise her suspicion! Baqi sab chalta hai :- ) ... after all, they have managed to glue us royally to the telly screen for nearly a year on the basis of the flimsiest possible MU, toh is baat ka kya kehna hai .... The way Khushi keeps disappearing on Mami concerns me....will they take her into confidence or will Manorma Baaaand continue with her inbhestigation and connect dots to Shyam? What is the next track in story line once Bitwa escapes from the clutches of those goons?

      Aki

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    7. Hahaha....I think you guys are right... the episodes had been moving quite fast these days...it was just those first 6-7 episodes right after barun left that were fillers...so I feel like they've been dragging this...

      Question...if they both get kidnapped and save one another etc does that mean both will automatically forgive each other? no RTR? no ASR wooing khushi back?

      Also pls pls pls CV's don't let the new plot line be Khushi made Arnav sign over all his wealth to chacha and Shyaam and now Raizada's are poor or wtr.

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    8. No, Gargi, he signed a Will, and a will is only valid after the person dies, not before!

      I think Arnav's RTRW will start ... he is already having guilt pangs of the way he treated Khushi, and this is before he even knows of her innocence. When she resuces him, he will KNOW she is not in cahoots with Shyam, which means her entire story is true, she did what she did only for Anjali ... AND she put up with his hatred, and didn't spill the beans, again only for Anjali's sake ... so his guilt will be hundred-fold.

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    9. Yeah but that means we will get RTR but no wooing her back...? I really want to see fun flirty ASR and Blushing Bitya of January/February again ;-)

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  6. not able to watch the whole episode...able to see two scenes - those make me feel good...
    one, bitwa's dream and FBs(finally i get to see pompom and how he got it at airport)...liked his reaction to all the FBs...
    second, the precap...khushi hiding from kidnappers...that means she finally get to thinking Shyam might be behind Arnav's disappearance and hence following him to that place...but is she going to meet ODB in this dress...me dnt like it...
    Jaya dnt know what lakshmi did in today's epi but *rofl*..."did the other lakshmi elope with the other HP??"

    for the rest waiting for Dia's post...

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    1. Oye, Ayesha, you're right ... Khushi should change her dress if she's going to rescue Bitwa tonight ... does that mean the rescue is postponed for another night? But why? They've shot the scenes already, haven't they? And Bitiya HAS to be in red for the milan!

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    2. Dia, Ayesha,

      Possibily, stringing together what u both have said, maybe the goons in the precap are roadside romeos...she turns back, goes home and gets ready tommo (precap)....anyways some filler scene with payash is expected so this will most likely play out for the next two days....including following VLR and the promo scenes will be on Friday precap.....

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  7. Nice episode .. Thogh Dia used to say mami is good at heart I was never so convinced about her. I think in older episode it is said that mami gave her gold to Arnav for starting his business. Now for getting him free from kidnappers she is ready to give all her precious jewels.So sweet of Mami. She really loves Arnav a lot.
    And Kushi started doubting shyam and try to spy on him.Good she has started to understand the extreme evilness of Shyam.
    Arnav's hallucination and dream about Kushi ..Poor guy so much he is yearning for her presence. Those FBs .Did he started his RTRT ?
    I am waiting for their union :)

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  8. @ Dia - Its not a VCD player , Should be a Tape reader. Normally Tapes will be used for back up purpose of large volumes data.

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    1. Ah, okay, that makes sense. And the tape she rescued was also not a normal VCR type tape, it was bigger.

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  9. Much as i love this serial - can someone please tell me what is the reason the CVs seem to be allergic, completely against using even some minute semblance of logic????

    why could Mami (if not KKG)not have said - this is too serious - Arnav could be in serious danger - lets involve mama and Akash at least?? - after all they can be trusted to help and keep it a secret - that would have led to Akash simply calling the Commissioner of police (who seems to be on his mobile's speed dial - remember the ILU call!!) - then getting the cctv footage and all that would have made sense - no matter how much you laugh at it - security footage of an international airport of a capital of any country is NOT kept in such places under such care - its a matter of national security - i know, i know, its just a play and we need to suspend logic - but my point is - if Akash had been involved - it would have made some sense - they could have continued with the police saying this is not enough proof of kidnapping and KKG could still have gone ahead and saved ODB!! the story would have been sooooo much better...

    Also hate it when they dumb down any character - why is Akahs not worried - yes, his bhai said connectivity is poor but he has not even written a single email to the boss in sooo many days??? he is not worried that his workaholic brother has not contacted him (as in office - forget home) in a week??? seriously CV - please let people think!!!

    as for the dress - i think this is 'the night' - the 2 week long narnia night and the red dress was only for the promo

    which brings me to the point - KKG overhears (through a door and solid brick walls!!!) that Creepwa is planning something - that's how she finds out?? - i mean after all these weeks - she basically did not do any detective work - it was coincidence!!! - like ODB like ODG - we keep planning that they will use their brains - but they seem to have lost those ages ago!!! - what if she had not overheard - she would have sat with mami saying - this is serious - this is no joke - something is fishy BUT done nothing!!!!!

    don't mean to rant but feel bad when a really good story (read Arhi) does not get justice - they def. deserve better!!!

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    1. mona thats logic which telly world does not use ..... The only time in IPK they showed logic in search matter was that with Babuji finding shyaams truth but as I said logic can't work so he is paralysed for his use of dimaag!

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    2. And I don't think cvs plan family to know anything yet about Shyaam or kidnapping ..... With this track I think they are going back to their original plan where ArHi will team up against Shyaam ..... This is what made rounds initially when they got married. That will be tough, keeping balance with Anjali. Remember the epi after wedding night where nani is sick and the way Shyaam sense drift between Anji and Arnav ..... There a big discussion on it here in R&R ..... Obviously after that things went for toss ...... Maybe they are just closing all the loops to get back to their original ..... IF there was one!!!

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    3. In that case, then it might not be Mami who finds out about Shyam next but Anjali herself.........wasn't there a spoiler about her pregnancy not being what it is cut out to be or that there was going to be a twist of some sort? Is this a love story or a mystery? Siiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhhh

      Aki

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    4. Mona,

      I am totally with u on the point...about involving Akash..they are behaving as if Akash is some wilting flower.....which mum can keep things of this nature from her son/hubby?

      I was also surprised with the normal/staid reaction of Khushi and mami after they return to RM and conclude that ASR has been kidnapped....the scenes were very poor there

      Also, Khushi's question "Shyamji kisko pakadke rakhne ki baat kar rahe hain" was silly....khushi, tumhari zindagi ke itne log laptha hain??

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    5. Sama loved ur line "as I said logic can't work so he is paralysed for his use of dimaag!"*rofl*

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    6. I agree somewhat with you ... but why can't the women handle things themselves? Why do they need the men? I would be perfectly happy if Mami decided to try to contact the police commissioner herself on the same premise as Khushi ... let's not tell the family till we're completely sure ... but let's carry on the investigations ourselves. Akash is too busy with the workload to saddle him with more worry, Mama is conveniently missing ... Mami and Khushi can handle things between the two of them ... ALL HAIL WOMAN POWER!!!
      And by the way, this is my mom's opinion, when I mentioned to her as to why Mami is not telling Akash!!! And my mom is in her seventies - she was like, why do you think that the two women need men? Can't they handle things themselves?
      SN - My mom is the biggest women's libber I know!!! :)))

      Besides, Akash is too much of a follower, not a leader ... Mami and Khushi are two of a kind ... they can make independent judgements and take decisions and follow through on them ... they are both leaders.

      Khushi will not tell anyone of course... because almost the moment she realises it's a kidnap, her suspicions fall on Shyam ... so she can't tell anyone in the family for the same reason as always ... even more so now, as she can't risk Shyam getting suspicious that she's on his track. And the rest of the family still has no idea about Shyam. I don't see her telling Mami this either ... I think it will stay between ArHI, and Sama is right - it will now be a joint fight between ArHi on one side and Shyam on the other.

      Although I would be very happy if Mami was the next person to get to know Shyam's truth. Because even more than Nani, she can handle it. And if Arnav-Anjali's dad was also unfaithful to his wife, then Nani will break even more, that history is repeating itself.

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    7. Dia - oh believe you me - i am a big big big believer in 'woman power' - completely agree that they can handle this - I am not saying they should involve the men for help - i am saying they should involve the men as this is important for the family and dangerous for ODB and all members have a right to know and help!!!

      i mean - look at it this ways - you get to know a member of your family (irrespective of how old, young, important a character that person is) is in trouble - in danger - is Kidnapped - how can you not involve the family and try and get help to reach out to sources beyond your grasp - nothing to do with girls vs boys - its about safety of the hero - i understand that they cant tell Anjali - that's why i am saying why are the men not involved - ASR is their relative too - like mami said - he is your husband, true, but hew is my nephew as well..

      you know - this is a very typical SP thing to do- - women suffer and suffer and quietly do everything on their own - take up the villain - plot plan and do good and solve all issues without involving anyone else. my biggest pull for this play was that both leads were equals - they both used their brains and stayed in character - they were pretty far more real than other SP characters

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    8. but look at this from the CVs point of view.. if they tell akash or mamaji, they will naturally have to tell sham because he is the next obvious family member.. and he will get to know about khushi's airport-godown-investigations.. So they cannot tell akash or mama.

      because, from RM vasis POV, sham is still the good damad. and MM is really scared of nani's disapproval, thats why she's not informed. anji-- everyone knows not to tell her!!
      (mamaji.. i think he is on a business tour or something, or else mami would have told him first.. like she told him of the HMC suspicion.)

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    9. no actually - shyam could have been kept out of it using Anjali as an excuse -

      poor Akash - he could have been developed so much better

      (and to your last point - i know what you are doing - what we all do - find excuses for the serial as we love Arhi siigghhh!)

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  10. Sama...got ur point..ASR is an honest man...he will not lie about ILU...even when he bought bangles for Khushi and she kept asking him"did u buy these bangles for me?" he didnt lie...he kept running away from her but never said "no"....
    Thanks :))

    as for the dress...i dnt like this orange suit...red for the 'milap'is perfect...but lets see what happens today...

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  11. Mamiji...u rock!!loved her one liners..."apni saari income to jalebi bnane mein lga diye ho.."
    apne bitwa ka to pta nahi but lakshmiji has started her RTRW for sure...who knows she might be there to find those papers... papers dhoondte dhoondte weight loss ho gya...(Jaya sharp eyes..she did look slimmer...)

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    1. ayesha, that is a new younger lamb.. our old lakshmi became too big for the role i guess.. nani had to lift her up every couple of scenes, and she sure does not have bitwa's dole shole ROFL

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  12. Hey girls,
    Did a little ramanji here, packed the whole gang off for Mumbai darshan , so that I can have my Arhi darshan. what I do for IPK and Arhi- Caught up all the three episodes, the story is going at a fast pace, although logic went for “tel layne”.
    Although the MR and PS bond cracked me up, then tension and grip of the story was in stored, would have enjoyed if hadn’t watched the stupid SBS/B segments. So the bond women know that Bitwa has been kidnapped, and there has been no demand from the kidnappers. Khushi linking up shyam and missing bitwa, without linking it with the papers, maybe she will today. At present she is collecting facts and needs time to connect.
    Laxmi redeems herself by helping Khushi. And what is VRL doing still keeping the papers and aren’t doing anything with it??
    Mami rocked as usual with her sharp deducing powers and staying true to character, like a coconut all hard on face and soft inside, loved how she is worried for bitwa and was taking the lead to find him. The cell operator clue was good one.
    Last three episodes has been purely Mami- Khushi bonding. Sure she will be the first to find about Shyam too, when Bitiya goes missing too?or later when she confronts Arhi about the reason for Kidnapping?

    Agree Mona with you on involving Mama at least. That would have made it more logical and realistic, as mama would have been good ally as he has tumbled into few of Shyam’s failed plans and more recent one being the key. But then what character Khushi and Mami( I will handle it on my own)they will confide only when they are at dead end or more sure with facts that Bitwa has been kidnapped by whom. Think when mami finds Khushi missing is when she will let either mama or akash know about it, more I think , it would be mama if she at the dead end.

    Sama agree with you on the logic thing, they have used logic in search only with bauji and Khushi finding shyam’s true face and since no logic can work further , one was made mute due paralyses and other with emotions ..
    Like I said before shyam’s true face wouldn’t be out in front of the family so soon. Shyam is the main ingredient in Arhi’s love story so, I think they will show arhi teaming up against shyam, and will keep it a secret along with Mami. Remember we were discussing this when Khushi is tensed about shyam’s advances especially when she is applying oil on Anji’s head – there we were saying that Arnav and Khushi have to team up and handle shyam in their own way. Arnav legally and financially while Khushi has to be the one who has to make Anji strong enough to handle it emotionally, like she asked anjali to open her eyes – giving spinets into real shyam, and at the end of contract or when the baby is born ( which I doubt now with Anjali's washboard flat tummy). The whole truth is out.. But the difference is Anji will have to find it on her own. That is what is going to hurt her more, and lash on Arhi and mami for keeping them (her and the family) out of it- that’s the way for separation and redemption track.
    But with this whole kidnapping thing I don’t know how they are going to keep shyam’s secret from the family? Even more if Khushi gets hurt in the rescue operations?

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    1. The last I completely agree with ... Khushi will follow Shyam to his 8pm tryst and get into trouble ... Mami will know she has gone missing ... unless Khushi manages to rescue Arnav and they both have a romantic rendezvous and stroll back home in time for dinner? Don't see that happening ... they have to be out the whole night for sure ...

      I cannot think further ... had a couple of ideas and put them in the main post ... please read and let's discuss further :)))

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    2. Yes Dia, I am still holding on to Shyam being the middle man, -one of the main things is- why hasn't he done anything with the will till now nor with Arnav?
      Where did he get the money 5 lacs when he did not have money to pay his bills? and 5 lacs seems to be an advance payment. Because if he was the kidnapper he doesn't have to wait for a week to use the will or kill Arnav? And yesterday's meeting, all points him as a pawn.

      And why do i feel in the new promo it’s the guy who is holding Arnav hits her ?? so it means, she goes to spy what shyam has in stored at night,may be that makes Shyam more suspicious about her involvement and she having a whiff of him involved in the kidnapping, she dodges the goons, returns back to RM,
      Next day she goes to the same place to check for clue or might have got a clue as to where Arnav has been kept and goes to the place but gets caught in broad daylight (as per the new promo and SBS segments they escaping are all in daylight) so I think milap in during the day, when they get chance to escape by evening-
      Now they can get lost in dark and we can have the romantic rendezvous and back home the next morning when mami finds Khushi missing and would be about to start hitting the panic button? So may be Arhi and Mami come to a agreement that this has to be kept under wraps for sometime till they can confront shyam or find facts to get them behind bars ?

      And Khushi has told Arnav about her suspicions regarding shyam’s involvement and the papers. So may be Bitwa decides it isn’t safe to go back to RM so they go hiding? But where jungle?? Or Sheesh Mahal?. I so wish this -- happens Arhi away from the mad house RM and let them say their dil ki baath direct dil se!!! we can have all other drama later ! But sadist I am I so want Khushi hurt that's for sure !!!

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    3. Dia, Aaru:

      She follows Shyam gets kidnapped herself, for some strange reason, bitwa is freed of the ropes, sees khushi, Khushi gets pounced on by the kidnappers, he loses his cool, breaks the mesh, beats up the goondas (pauses to think...kyon Arnavji, why didn't you do this before and let me guess Khushi inspired you?)..and they run off.

      And there was a talk about Outdoor shoot, though they were shooting at RM only, I would recognize the boundary wall and the parking space anywhere:).

      So maybe later they are indeed shooting outdoors for a night, run....ahem..whatever happens and reach the next morning, Khushi somehow manages to call Mami and tell her that she and Arnav are fine asking them to hold the fort till they arrive or gets her to lie that she is in Guptas,maybe they do go to Guptas, Recoup, the Gupta confrontation finally happens, both leave for RM and Shyam is shocked to see them.

      ASR tells the family coolly that he asked Khushi to pick him up from the airport, lost his luggage in transit and looking at Shyam's reaction mocks and says Kyon Jijaji, You thought I got kidnapped?

      Hmmmmmmm...This would be interesting if I may say so myself,lo..

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    4. Aaru - am with you on either of them getting hurt!! (sadists for sure :D) - one to help speed the RTR and two - to keep them apart for a while yet!!!

      me thinks -
      - Shyam is the mastermind - how did he get 5 lacs - this is IPK - no logic
      - ODG will find ODB - will follow shyam - get to the goons - get captured by them and find ODB BUT she will not see Shyam with ASR - Shyam will see her first and stay away
      - Both DB&G will escape - put two and two together and know that Shyam was behind this but have no proof - hence cant open his cards to all as yet.

      - Now if ODB or G gets injured (hopefully - hehhehehe) - the family will know that ODG saved ODB but no one will know of Shyam. even now Mami knows ASR is kidnapped but she knows nothing about Shyam or that ODG has heard something suspicious and is investigating - so shyam stays in the clear for now
      (if ODB&G get together to fight TF - i will love it - not just ODG fighting the villain - but the couple doing so will be fun!!)

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    5. Mona: It is not Shyam, it is someone else...a new character maybe...they can ever gloss over it with a single line, Khushi asks him, who were the kidnappers, he says he doesnt know, they knew his medical condition and the people he saw were the subordinates, he never saw the real mastermind and he doesnt know and the whole issue gets dropped for sometime till the writers figure out with a plausible story.

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    6. Shweths....

      If it turns out to be Shyam....i would say it is very lame...altho yes he has the right motive to kidnap him...its just the dialogues of Shyam at the moment seem more like a red herring than the actual thing....

      If Shyam is the main kidnapper, what the hell is he waiting for? esp since ASR being away can't be stretched for so long...another of his frakenshyam experiments gone to seed....

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  13. this post cracked me up ! Akshay has good sense of humor !!

    http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3004697

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    1. ROFL...Oh Akshay should be the guy handling the PR for this show:)

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    2. ROFL ROFL - this guy is hilarious!!!

      loved the silk stocking point

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    3. *ROFL ROFL* and *ROFL* some more....

      That guy is just too gud......i am sure there musn't be a dull moment in the set becos of him

      I remember a telly-buzz or some such video during the payash love story beginning where he remarked "aaj kal do dinon mein main 4 mahine ki shooting kar raha hoon"...

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    4. ROFL .... Poojali Anjali !!! :D :D

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  14. Rekha, Sama and all

    agree - we need to suspend logic - but that's just the point - if only they use minuscule amounts of it - the story improves

    and more importantly - they don't bother about building the characters - have been watching the episodes from the beginning - they always showed Akash as pretty spineless (at first sight) but he was always around to pick up the pieces - be it with his mother (between mom and dadi) - help KKG (for eg. saying 'as bhai says' for the saree shoot thing - but after a few seconds adding that KKG was right and the saree looked good etc) - so what i mean is - this was his character - always standing by his brother - in his shadow and never trying to usurp his authority but not being completely his yes man either - now, this character all of a sudden has no role except for acting ASR like in romantic scenes (which he just cannot do - no offence to him - its just that he is no ASR!!)

    mami - who wanted mama to inbhestigate why ASR danced with KKG on the day of the sangeet - is not even thinking of asking her husband for help when she is sure OGB is KIDNAPPED - i mean she has to understand the importance of this - she has to (they have to) know. kidnappers could have killed him too...

    so ok logic for doing thing - we will suspend - but logic regarding how people /characters are to behave - NO i cannot - after all, this was the biggest pull of this serial - we had characters who reacted!! and not just dumb blond bahus!!

    i guess i am just having server withdrawal symptoms - need the Arhi romance to come back to feel better :D :D

    Ayesha - yes Laxmi has lost weight - actually - this is a new laxmi - younger and smaller than the first - so the first one has- like Jaya says - run off with HP!!

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    1. Mona: Bang on, Mami should have atleast pressed the panic button with Mama or Akash.

      Lakshmi, lol.didnt pay attention.

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    2. when I think of Akaash I am reminded of the dialogue

      "wo koun hai jisne car se ziyada Arnav Singh Raizada ke dimaag pe dent kar diya hai?!"

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  15. Few weeks ago, Arnav drew an Arnav Line, Khushi didn't pay much heed to it and the result Arnav almost got kicked out of the bed.

    Now Khushi drew a Khushi Line, begging him not to go, he went ahead and got himself kidnapped.

    Moral of the story, Arnav Bitwa beware of crossing any line....whatsoever.

    I am slowly getting bored of the show now, after all the date mess, pr mess, story mess gets sorted out and ASR & Khushi come back to the people they once were, looks my IPK journey will end sooner than expected:(

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    1. i know what you mean - my affair would have ended too had it not been for Dia and the blog - so dont you go anywhere Shwetha - if not for IPK - stay for us - *puppy face*

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    2. Much as i would like to believe otherwise, this is a hole that is dug deep and the PH is going to find the climb hard....my sympathies with them

      Sometimes unprecedented success can also be detrimental....IPK is a fine example....was looking at TRPs and reflecting on the challenge that makers have while dealing with love stories

      Most of these "chart-topper" serials, i guess pick up a track and run it from start to end.
      for eg....YRKKH....if i am not mistaken, can safely take up one issue and keep up the interest for that period, getting viewership, who are keen to see how that issue has been solved.The issue may be as mundane as some silly puja and arrangements for it; they have a variety of tracks to choose from, sambandhi-relationship, maika-sasural tug-of-war, hubby-wife mu, someone's birthday, child falling sick etc....

      IPK is different becos even tho they have to focus on individual tracks, they can't loose sight of how the individual tracks are all intertwined....That of the build of this love between two people

      I don't know if my surmise is right, the lager viewership is not really yearning for a love story, they just want to see a family battling with daily issues...this is the funny part...people toil with these issues everyday in their real life and then want to see the same in reel life, probably in
      a larger than life way...almost as if to compare notes.... "love" is a pretty abused commodity in people's lives, i guess...its absolutely taken for granted...

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    3. yes Rekha YRKKH is about daily life of how a couple in arranged marriage finds love and lead their life .... so no matter what they do with their story(?) they deliver what they promised .... Daily issues of married life! (TRP follow up for IPK does have its side effects)
      All other shows no matter what they start with follows the same route .....hence no major damage.

      IPKKND is a love story .... how much can you twist romance .... yes they went off track with OTT comedy and has lost a chunk but they have still managed to keep ArHi fans hooked to it, that even at an year end we are still waiting eagerly for ArHi HUG ...... Baki we want later!

      They have managed it with a not so perfect hero and hubby ..... not so tactful and shy heroine & to top it no overdrive family drama, all characters have shades (payash ko chodke, lets see what happens in future ..... cvs may just grant our wish out of the blue).... Kudos IPK team!!

      I hope cvs have learned their lesson by now that nothing can be an excuse ..... if the essence of love is there .... even IPL is no big deal baki maro goli.... One ILU from Arnav and a teary smile from Khushi was enough to not just sustain but show rise (no matter how slight despite 3 IPL semis which starts exactly at 8 .... all other 8pm show has seen major dip in TRP.

      Blabbered a lot don't know how much sense I made.

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    4. The question ... how reflective are the TRP's of the larger viewership? I read in an article somewhere that TRP's are based on some peoplemeters installed in 6000 houses. Now 6000 is a MINISCULE number compared to the number of tv sets in India alone, and this is not bringing in the number of people outside India who subscribe to SP (like me) or watch shows online.

      Also ages ago, I read an interview with Siddharth Basu (he used to do great quiz shows many years ago, and now does some other programs ... and he was complaining bitterly that the channels need to find more ways to judge the viewership, because the TRP's are drawn from too narrow a base.

      How popular a program can be judged to some extent by all the online views, by the votes that these actors get from their fans ... KSG was one of the finalists in a dance competition he did, and the judges hated him because he always won on votes, never on their points. But he was hugely popular with the youth, so they spent their pocket money SMS'ing for him - and his fan base was enough to make him reach the finals of the show. Which is pretty huge!

      The saas bahu shows have a fan base among the more conservative population, maybe in smaller towns and cities? I don't know. And this is also probaly the bulk of the audience, because most Indians ARE pretty conservative - and that's probably how the houses were chosen - to reflect the larger population. But even so, 6000 is a tiny number and probably does not reflect the true picture.

      Among the more educated and the elite, most people don't watch, or don't admit to watching most Indian soaps anyway ... because they label them all saas-bahu ... and they prefer the American of English shows. I think it's this crowd which is drawn to shows like IPK, because it's not regressive, the families are pretty normal ... you have a very supportive understanding sasuraal and an independent type of bahu, the characters are not all black and white, except for Shyam of course ... and the hero and heroine are not perfect, they are flawed and human. And the humour is also a draw - most people don't want to watch rona-dhna all the time either. But this audience probably is not contributing to TRP's, because they don't have those machines installed. They did make their presence felt in the popular votes category - which is why Viren won rather than DABH as best hubby, and Suhana won as best wife, and Arhi won both jodi awards - in terms of appeal, they are far more likely to appeal to the urban viewers, who are also the ones likely to vote online. And they would be much greater than 6000 in number, am sure.

      BUT they need a storyline ... for IPK, they have dragged Shyam for FAR too long ... they need to resolve him, and get the next track, with a new villain. Or get a new premise ... not carry on the same MU ...

      Shows like YRKK have tracks, they deal with one issue, resolve it and move on to the next, that's how they sustain interest. There was the handicapped nanad getting married, then there was the second nanad getting married into a more modern family, then there was Akshara's miscarriage, then there was her nephew getting into abd habits, then her baby, their losing all their money ... so many different problems ... here we have just Shyam one one very flimsy MU dragging for a full year! They should resolve this, move on to the past, resolve that, and then think of more tracks ... get into a family problem issue, money problems ... ok, done before, but if you want to keep the show going, you can do it but do it a little differently ... which has been their hallmark anyway.

      Me too blabbered a lot ... hope I made some sense!

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    5. As for other shows, YRKK has probably stuck to its original premise, but DABH was supposed to be about a girl studying further after marriage and her husband supporting her ... till now, all she has been doing is becoming a dutiful wife and a good cook! And this is the top rated show!

      Behna ... don't know what the premise was ... but watching the cancer track makes me want to throw something at the screen, the way they're showing the treatment and the disease ... I have treated kids with blood cancer myself, and seen many family members, including my dad, suffer the disease, so I hate the rubbish they keep showing! Especially the part about keeping it secret from the real sister and jiju ... that was so stupid! And there is a good example to follow ... the Suhana cancer track in SGP was done so beautifully and realistically.

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    6. Dia I usually watch few mins of Behna everyday after IPK .... Sheesh all the fuss, specially the elder sister keeps scolding the younger one to behave as if that's going to cure CANCER !

      SGP is one I know has stuck to their original till the end .... I stopped watching after Sona was introduced, its the cancer track which got me back to SGP and yes it was beautifully done .... even relating her moms past ..... nothing too sentimental but acknowledgement by Suhanas father. Though I would have loved a better ending.

      As for TRP I really din't know so much about it .... 6000 that's way less !!! Well I read here and there that SP is axing show for low TRP .... so thought it might be direct relation to its popularity in India, hence follow it regularly.

      Man I have never been this consistent with follow up for anything in my life!

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    7. Exactly Dia! How 'bout us who subscribed to SP?:D imagine from the net to tv now. Husband was forced to subscribed because of IPKKND, only for my love of IPKKND. ~cheng

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    8. Now that's a completely different premises of popularity, isn't it ?! ;)

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    9. I don't even watch chinese serials if there has any.;D, don't like the manner of speaking sounds to noisy to me. Sorry, maybe it's just me that's why i'm drawn to ipkknd. ~cheng

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    10. Sorry, not to be rude though maybe I was brought up in a different part of the world.:D ~cheng

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    11. Exactly, Dia..thats forces me to wonder what is it that viewers largely want.....its obvious stupidities abound in other serials as well...I wonder if DABH will be on top of the charts when she is shown marching on that IAS path or have they forgotten that part....in that Diya and bati business in the kitchen or wherever they show most scenes...

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  16. i know this is not related to this episode - but wanted to highlight - that despite the problems - IPK is IPK

    here is what Dia wrote after the GH scene:

    "But ASR can't stay down for too long ...
    A battle of equals ... no shy retiring chupchaap sab kuch sehen karne vaali Bhartiya nari here ... and he's no perfect hero ... he's a man, flawed and imperfect, but human ... both strong fiery personalities ... and that's what makes the sparks fly ...
    Sparks - hell ... it was a conflagaration today!"

    isn't it a perfect description of the story!

    And is what Dia had written - (the resignation by KKG):
    "..He did try to stop her, to say something, to justify himself, but Khushi was in full flow ... so he let her let it out. Because he realised that she needed to vent ... he had piled abuse on abuse on her and she had taken it all quietly ... now the dam had burst and the floods were raging forth...."

    and now - ODB - just has to say 'Khushi, i am ok'.. on the phone and her dam of patience breaks!! then he was quiet and she in full flow - now - he speaks and she is quiet yet both scenes high on emotions!

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    1. "that despite the problems - IPK is IPK"

      This perfectly states what I wanted to say in so many words above. :D

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  17. Wholeheartedly agree Mona...IPK is IPK despite all problems..

    Irrespective of its lean period, i can't rest easy without knowing what happened to ARHI...

    I really can't remember a love story on television that i followed with such interest..R&R is also a major reason for that..Dia and all u girls....
    The challenge in a love story is actually after the confession or should i say logical conclusion;to keep the interest alive in a love story after that is the key. IPK has issues in the journey to confession itself becos they have wandered.....yet the pull to know what happens now is keeping my interest alive....nirvana is not possible otehrwise....

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    1. True ... IPK is IPK ... I still love the show, and now that it's back on track somewhat, I don't see myself giving up on it soon :)))

      But I DO want it to PROGRESS!!!!

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