Thursday, May 17, 2012

17/5 - Epi 255 ... Scared

Thursday 17th May

Again the title reflects the emotions of Khushi ... scared on two counts, one, an unexplained fear for Arnav, and the second, probably for the first time, genuine naked fear of Shyam ...

Opti had pointed this out earlier, and today I saw the truth of it very clearly ... Khushi is completely vulnerable to Shyam now that Arnav is missing. And with Arnav not there, his daring has increased hugely - he dares to enter her room without being asked, he dares to shut the door behind him, and he dares to make advances openly ... and right now, there is nothing she can do about it. And the stark fear showed in her face at the realisation in the last scene.

Pity that was the last scene ... the fear in her face was etched so clearly that it wiped out the beautiful realisation "Tu Hi Bata Mere Maula" scene - the song in the background, Khushi's soft words tracing her journey with Arnav, which began with hatred, that grew at every subsequent meeting, peaked on the night of their marriage ... and now has deepened strangely into a bond that she cannot do without. Sanaya at her best ... that was a beautiful scene ... worth immediate re-watch ...

Liked the jalebi scene that preceded it too ... as the whole family knows how disturbed she is at Arnav's absence ... and liked the little touch that Khushi kept looking at Arnav's message again and again, as though clinging to that last communication ...

Mami with Masala Mama ... necessary to wind up the Bubbly track ... ever since Mama's Ghajini syndrome was announced, I was expecting a scene like the one with Mami. And good that Mami is firmly on to Bubbly's trail now ... so hopefully this track will wind up by tomorrow or latest Monday.

The first scene ... of course Shyam manages to hide the papers, and Khushi is left wondering whether he has them or not ... what is he waiting for now, with Arnav in his custody - or is he? And Khushi can't get rid of the feeling that something is wrong with Arnav, there is some trouble brewing ... Khushi, go back to Devi maiya, Mahadev can only help you so much, but DM is your true divine mother ... Khushi also wonders why Arnav texted her - he has never done that before.

And one supposed London Office scene where Arnav's absence is discovered ...

The fb's were interesting ... will update thoughts on them tomorrow after re-watch.

*edited*
Anjali was definitely upset to see Shyam outside and not at the pooja, even more so when he had work papers in his hand -  'you're thinking about work at this time?' Unsmiling - a rare occurrence for Anjali - combination of the occasion and Shyam's absence.
Did Khushi see Shyam stuffing papers into his pocket?
Shyam is now a mix of subtle threats and a new confidence when he talks to Khushi ... as though he knows she is helpless to ward him off in Arnav's absence.

And as the family prays, Khushi has a private prayer of her own, her troubled mind finding solace in prayer - please, Mahadev, look after Arnavji ... I don't know why I'm worrying so much about him, why I feel there's something wrong ... he left without listening to me and I ... then shakes her head, no, this isn't the time to talk about herself, she'll manage her own problems, ... just look after him. Wherever he is, keep him safe .. that's all. And almost without thinking the wish comes out ... please tell him to come back soon ... because I ... and she stops in confusion at her own thoughts again ... why is she missing him so much?
And a last thought - don't tell Devi maiyya I spoke to you ... instead of to her, she might get annoyed I'm still not talking to her :)
Mahadev - Shiv  ... and Devi Maiyya - Shakti, Parvati ... Shiv-Shakti is Ardhnarishwar, two halves of a whole ... so does it matter which one she talks to?

So now Mahadev is enlisted to look after Arnav ... is the tide going to turn soon?

Back home, Khushi's other worry surfaces again ... 'does Shyam have the papers or not? Did he realise that I might go into his room to search for them, and so he hid them?' Khushi, you do get the right answers into your head, just follow them through now with the next question - why would he hide them from me?... 
'or did I lose them myself? How will I prove the truth to Arnav without them?'
How will you prove the truth to Arnav with them, is the question you need to ask, Khushi ... won't Arnav think you're hand in hand with Shyam even more if he knows you got the signatures for Shyam?

And the AR London office discovers that ASR is missing for the meeting, and hasn't even reached the hotel - so finally they try to call him.

Khushi looks at that one message again and again ... no further news from him, he could at least have called Di, if not her ... specially on their mother's birthday ... and she tries to summon the old anger again, but it turns too quickly into hurt ... he doesn't care about anyone, and here I'm going crazy with worry over him ... how can anyone expect anything but indifference from him?
And then a thought strikes ... but why did he inform me about his arrival? And that too, through SMS? He's never done that before ... 

Masala - Mami scene ... Mami full on inbeshtigation mode, Masala Mama provides some information ... red hands, little girl ...

And Khushi is so worried she's back to making jalebis ... and looking at that last message again and again ... clinging to that last communication ... again trying to rustle up some anger to mask her growing worry ... 'he just messaged, he didn't even bother to call, so why am I thinking about him again and again?'
And she remembers their first meeting ... falling off the ramp into his arms ... and the last ... Arnav walking away, when she was pleading desperately for him not to leave ... 'why is she thinking about him all the time, dreaming about him ... there is something wrong ...
No, just think positive and all will be well' ... she keeps trying to reassure herself, but her mind is more and more troubled ... she can't shake off the feeling that something is wrong.

She serves the jalebis to the family still in that troubled mood, Nani exclaims at the number, Anjali is more understanding, she knows Khushi makes jalebis when she's worried ... you did this to keep your mind occupied?
And Shyam is not happy ... he thought he'd manage to keep that rift wide open between Arnav and Khushi successfully ...
Khushi doesn't deny it, Payal is also worried, she also knows Khushi's jalebi habit ...

Masala mama's brain clicks into gear seeing Bubbly ... (good thinking to blend the two tracks together) ... and Mami sees the red on Bubbly's shirt.

Nani realises something worng with the jalebis ... Khushi realises she made them in sugar free, not sugar syrup, because Arnav eats them that way ... and she stops abruptly. The entire family understands completely ... but Shyam is getting angrier ... this is one part of his plan that isn't successful ...
'If he's not here, why did you bother ...?'

Anjali intervenes immediately ... 'he's not here, but she's remembering him, isn't she? That's why ...' beginning in teasing mode ...
and Khushi is almost in tears now, reaching her break point rapidly ... yes, why?! Why is she remembering him so much?!
Nani and Payal now seriously perturbed, Anjali realises from Khushi's expression how worried and upset she is and stops suddenly, her smile fading ... and Khushi can't control her tears any more and rushes off. Payal tries to go after her, but Nani stops her ... let her be, she's missing him, she needs to be alone for a while ...
And Shyam is angrier still ... Khushi is supposed to hate Arnav, not miss him ...

And Khushi finally breaks down in the sanctuary of her room behind closed doors ... memories flood back again, feeding Arnav jalebis in the kitchen when he became faint from hypoglycemia ... 'what's happening to me, why did I make jalebis for Arnav when he's not even here ...'
She tries to busy herself in mundane tasks, put her clothes away in the cupboard ... as she does, pearls come spilling free ... and more and more memories spill out from the recesses of her mind ... becoming a flood ...
Tu hi bata mere maula ... tu hi bata mere rabba ...

Kuch rishte ajeeb hi dor mein bandhe hote hain ...
Takraar se shuru hote hain
nafrat ke saaye mein panapte hain ...
Their first encounter started their hate story, and their subsequent meetings only grew that hatred further ...
their first meeting, the tumbling of pearls from her dori when he pulled them ...
the next, the accident, he slapped money into her hand, insulted her aukat ...
the guesthouse, he sent her there, he saved her, but insulted her again, shouted at her ... the parking lot, he sent her there, he saved her ...

girte hain, badhte hain ... par kayam rehte hain ...
nafrat badhti jaati hai ... aur rishte ki gaanth aur gehri hoti jaati hai ...
Encounters in office, at home ... all bitter, wars of words between them always ... yet somehow they kept coming back to each other ... something kept growing between them ...
Itni ki ek din nafrat bhi badhne se sharma jaati hai ..
aur voh rishta sirf ek bandhan bake reh jaata hai ... lekin sirf nafrat ka ...
Their wedding ... the most sacred relationship of all ... or is it only a bond forged in the deepest nadir of their hate story? Was that the high point of their relationship ... or the lowest depth of their hatred ... from which there was only one direction it could go ... upwards ...

Kuch baat us mein bhi haim kuch baat us mein bhi hai
voh dhoop sa hai agar, voh chandni raat si hai
Mil paaye kabhi dono, kya teri iss mein hai raza ... kya teri iss mein hai raza 

Kabhi kabhi aisa lagta hai ki jaise nafrat ke us mahaul mein ... kuch to hai ... jo humse kehta hai ki ... 
And Khushi rises to see the mirror in her reflection in the glass ... the inner Khushi, the one who wants more than the hatred ... the Khushi she had buried deep inside her and refused to let out again after Diwali ... does that Khushi want to surface again?

iss ansuni, anjaane se, ankahe se ehsaas ko ek mauka toh do ...
The hope that arose when he acknowledged her as his wife in front of the world and carried her out of the temple ... when in front of everyone he danced with her as though wanting to possess every inch of her ...
can she dare to give that hope a chance ...

par jis rishte ki neev hi nafrat par rakhi gayi ho ... us rishte se kuch bhi ummeed lagana nadaani nahin toh aur kya hoga ...
But no ... he married her because he thought she was having an affair with Shyam ... he hates her for that ... he married her only to save his Di's marriage ...

And her reflection looks back at her sadly in the glass as she sinks to the ground slowly in despairing anguished acceptance ...
par shayad yeh nadaani hum kar baithe hain ...
varna kyun itni nafrat ke bawajood, humein aapki yaad aa rahi hai?

Na paas aa sake hain, na door jaa sakein
gar pyaar inko kheenche, takrar inko roke

He refused to believe her, to trust her, to wait for her ... he left her and went away ... yet why does she long for him so much?
Kyun hum aapse ladta hain, jhagadte hain ...
lekin aapke jaane ke baad, aap hi ki raah dekhte hain ...
havaon se aapki baatein karte hain ...

Tu hi bata mere maula maula ...

Why can she not stop loving him?
And she rests her head against the glass in final despairing acknowledgment of her unrequited love ... he may hate her, but she can't stop loving him ...

Sanaya Irani, take a bow ... take several! And ditto to the writers, director, cameraman ... scene set up and execution was stupendous!

My only complaint ... why did it end so abruptly and that too, with that horrendous Coming Up of  daal and Creepwa? :(
They should have ended the episode with Khushi's realisation ... don't even feel like writing much about the RRR scene!

Anjali is fooled again by RRR's fake concern and he takes the food tray for Khushi smoothly ... yes, he knows she's upset, and he's going to make her more so in her weakened state ... she has no right to miss Arnav ...
In between the Masala-Mami scene was actually a relief ... Akash told Payal to iron his shirt, Bubbly off to do some mischief, but Mami's suspicions are now aroused, and she and Mama are doing detective-giri full swing ... complete with flow charts. They must have read Gargi's complaints! :)) So Mami concludes that Payal is not a bhootwa. And Bubbly is under suspicion.

Can we find a new name for RRR in his new more vile form? Like VLR - Vile Loathsome Reptilewa.
So VLR is shut out by Khushi, he enters forcefully and shuts the door behind him ... to her shock and growing anger ...
And now it's time for barely veiled threats ...
If you don't eat, I won't eat ... please do eat ... smooth, silky ... and he advances ... or should I feed you myself ...
and she realises that she's alone and vulnerable ... slight fear in her eyes, but hides it in anger - she's still also spitting mad ... how dare he ...?
She takes a bite ... to his surprise ...
ok? Now your turn ...
And empties a container of pepper into his daal ... please eat ... don't refuse ... her challenge to him, leave me alone or else ...
And to her growing shock and horror ... he answers her challenge with one of his own ... he eats it .. and her shock is replaced by fear  ... stark genuine fear ...
And the threat is now open ... don't challenge my feelings for you ... you will lose ... always ...

Leaving Khushi appalled and scared ... has she finally recognised the madness of the man? The real evil?


134 comments:

  1. absolutely hated today's episode.. first mindless anjali drama.. then terrible terrible mama drama.. then some yuppies in a "london"office discussing what or what not arnav will do.. then tacky rabba ves

    only bright light in the episode, khushi missing arnav, they had to tack on "why do I feel like this?" -- i thought she already knew!!

    then (gargi, your flowchart!) mami writing down the clues ..and looking at them with the binoculars(head desk)

    and then, sham eats the dal!! somebody give me a dandaa today!

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    1. dint like it except for Khushi's prayer and her monologue.....

      Snake entered bitiya's room and has the audacity to lock the door....when is she going to tell payal bt it.....DM, knock some sense into her mind please......hated that part....

      and the way she eats a bite when he says he won't eat unless she does........why are u bothered, bitiya, let him starve to death, i say.....

      and she mixes the kali mirch and say ab aap ki baari..dekhiye mana mat kijiyega...sarcastically bt sweet tone....no bitiya....don't u understand, this is just suicide.......

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    2. and i hated that she told mahadev not to tell devi maiyya..

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    3. Jaya : 2 much.....DM has telepathy connection with Mahadev...don't worry, he won't have to say anything....

      but seriously i dint enjoy the daal part, even though bitiya made him eat pepper...... she should just throw him out....or move out of the room.......he is openly proclaiming to love her, why is she still not scared of him....

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    4. J,

      Har Har Mahadev! Its a call to arms. An Shiva and Shakti are but 2 sides of a coin.

      "Tum har kaam akele nahi kar sakti"

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    5. Geetu, Sandy, I know that shiva and shakti share a consciousness.. my point was, khushi SAID that.. means she is still roothi with DM.. and without DM, she is not gonna succeed in any of her endeavours..

      so with that in mind, we are going to see snakewa's taandav now.. making khushi lose in every battle.. until the final one where she gets injured saving anjali.. (going by redux here) ... I cant watch the battle !!! :(

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    6. shakti will never lose because she is the mother goddess.

      Sati immolated herself because she was naive to believe her father Daksha who insulted her husband Mahadev. But whe she gave up her spirit for her mistake, Mahdev unleashed his army of ganas, veerabhadra and kali on dakha ruining his havan for prosperity. Daksh was killed in that battle and was rejuvenated after Shiva had calmed down with the head of a goat inorder that he may complete the havan.

      In this battle Sati never lost, for she only gained Shiva's love and committment for ages to come. He waited for her becoming an ascetic in his wait. He had to do penance for having indulged Sati's wish to participate in her father's havan against his better instincts.

      The taandav if any will be Arnav's. Snakewa is but Daksha - vain of his "kingdom and wealth"

      Sati was reborn as Parvati - a determined yet mature consort of Shiva and Shiva's anger had reigned in by then even though he did burn Kamadeva to ashes for trying to act cupid but he also ressurected Kamadev.

      And Khushi is DM's child - shakti ka roop; how can she lose?

      Kali, Durga, Chandika and Ambika are all warrior forms of the mother goddess who were created to end adharma.

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    7. And J,

      So what if she is roothi with DM, she has reached out to Mahadev - u urself said they r one. With the Mahadev by her side, can she lose?

      It is now time to start uniting Shiva and Shakti to fight as Shivshakti!

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    8. J,
      Agree with you that she is still roothi with DM, but if you see according to her she wanted to prove herself innocent and was telling her DM to help which she didn't, so what she does to the father, shiva, its so real like when a child is angry with her mother whom does she go to her father, and at the moment they do tell father not to tell any secret to their mother, so am happy that she did go to him, DM and shivji can have their combined force now...
      Hai laa I did go the figurative way???
      !!!

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    9. I am with Sandy tonight ... I felt tonight was a turning point of sorts ... both Khushi's feelings for Arnav, and her realisation of the true beast that is Shyam. And the call to Mahadev ... as Sandy pointed out, Shiv and Shakti are two sides of the same coin ... in calling on Mahadev, she has essentially called on Devi Maiyya too ...

      I thought I would hate the dal scene ... I did, but more for Shyam's sheer daring, and Khushi's realisation of her vulnerability ... that was real fear on her face at the end.

      As to why she didn't throw the tray back on his face, and send him packing ... yes, I wish she had too ... Sandy's explanation of the black pepper soothed me a little, otherwise my first reaction was that Bitiya has as much a hot temper as Bitwa, and she loses her dimaag as much as he does when angry ... why the heck did she have to challenge Shyam?!

      And she will get hurt at some point ... and Arnav's RTRW will be that much longer and harder when he realises that by not believing her, he left her completely at Shyam's mercy.

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    10. Aaru,

      Love the mum and dad waala thought. Ofc when u r upset with mum u ell dad, it shall be our lil secret but parents will be parents na :)

      Dia,
      Khushi needs to now see the difference between the characters of Arnav ad Shyam - Arav who has always been caring while speaking of hatred while Shyam who professes care and affection (DDR) but it is just about his ego and her not being available to him (like one would feel about a favourite doll one has set one's mind on). And yes she needs to realize how vulnerable she is to he creep and how perhaps she cannot tackle him alone.

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    11. Sandy,
      Oh, I think she's seeing them both completely separately - she has never believed in Shyam's 'love' at all, but now she is starting to realise the full extent of his villainy, and his junoon - his eating the dal was an indication of how far the guy can go to achieve his ends. Now will she realise from here that he has and never had any intention of telling Arnav the truth, and recovering the papers is her priority, not to force him to tell the truth, but to safeguard Arnav from what she mistakenly made him sign? I would be very happy if she reached that level ... and the sooner the better!

      As for Arnav, she's in a different state of mind completely ... it's about accepting her feelings for the man she thinks hates her, their rishta which he told her is based only on hate ... and so accepting that her love is one-sided and will remain unrequited. Does that mean she might leave at the end of six months, after she has proven her innocence .. presumably the two will happen together.
      Her monologue was beautiful, with just the right fb's at the right points - will expound in detail tomorrow.

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    12. Dia,

      It will be good to see Khushi realizing the monster that is Shyam and taking steps to safeguard Arnav - he is in enough pain because of her already and now she has taken his signatures on papers with which DM alone knows what horrors Shyam could unleash as per Khushi.

      For now from today's epi, Khushi said she had set hopes on this bond - naadani though it may be. As for her leaving if she has not realized he loves her she may try to in order to save him the pain of having her around. But they could also make her "leave" by showing her saving him and putting her life in danger. Look thru the 4 FBs from yday (non Teej) and tell me what you think.

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    13. Sandy, just finished today's write up ... tell me more your thoughts on the fb's. I'll look at yesterday's again ... maybe we need a weekend summary post this week!

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    14. Dia,

      Take a bow for the edited post. Yeh scene or dialogue chap chuka hai mere dil main :))

      FBs will try and get to it tonight. And yes lots more fbs to come. I think I shall be disappointed if they did not. But what I am excited about is she keeps going back to tha dori breaking scene. He told her that day itself that "agar meri di ke saath aisa kiseene kiya toh main use barbaad karke rakh doonga and went on to break her string of pearls"

      moti jaise sapne bikhre hain
      kyunki unhe hai lagta ki humne kee bewafaai
      ab hume un motiyon ko phir se hai pirona
      taaki unke saamne rakh sakhe apni wafaai

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    15. wow sandy! wah re wah!

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  2. Luckily in the real world, the love doesn't happen as in the reel world!! Or we might all just miss the bus...In tellyland, it is like the Damini, the lightning which has to strike u...

    SI was in her elements...as usual...easy to see why she is the bulwark of this show...The monologue was rendered in a beautiful manner....i liked the setting and the camera angle (i rarely catch that) The tu hi bata mere maula complimented Khushi's monologue....

    Now for some serious thots!!
    Donning a critic's hat, what took bit away from this powerful monologue was the butchering that has happened with K's character in the past tracks...tho i do agree that absence makes the heart grow fonder and i will make allowance for that aspect.....

    I won't call it Khushi's realisation....she has always loved him...but has never been able to look past or should i say felt emboldened to feel anything for this man due to his extreme nature..Every encouraging thought/hope has been squashed in the past.
    Today, i felt it was Khushi accepting that "Mohabbat door jane na de", kind of accepting that while this relationship cannot be named, it is bond nevertheless..she accepts to herself this truth abt her complex relationship..

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  3. I hated the Daal thing to the core because shyam was at his creeping best !!

    Wahhh khushi you changed party? But yes you need him more than DM now because you need to open your third eye to find your parmeshwar or do a tandav to get creepwa out of hook??

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    1. Aaru,

      Black Pepper - medicinal, has symbolic roots in tantric activity for jinxing others

      For all means and purposes Khushi just jinxed Shyam in totality today.

      And on googling I found an intersting alternate name for black pepper - maricha (the asura who assumed the form of the golden doe to lure ram away from sita and subsequently fake Ram's voice to ensure Sita would send Lakshman leaving her isolated ad vulnerable to a disguised Ravana

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    2. Aaru,

      Khushi charged Mahadev to look out for Arnav. So it will be his 3rd eye opening :)

      And beside Khushi in the mandir today stood 3 devis - Payal, Mami and Nani :)

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    3. watched in bits sandy so haven't paid much attention,

      remember few days back I was saying that Khushi will accept her love and do anything only when she understand that her love is above the her hate(her hate is her anger that he did all this to her, he didn't give her a chance to explain, he misunderstood her, she is helpless in clearing it, she should hate him tell him go to hell, but she can't ,she can't hate him because there is something other which is above this anger and hate , which makes her ache, which makes her to go any extend and that is the unconditional love she has for him.. this is the point where her love is above her hate/anger, the love which she will accept unconditionally where nothing else matters.

      The whole thing today was that !! her talk to shivji,making jelabies, her monologues all were to accept that her love is above her anger, that she will accept when she gets to know that Arnav is missing.
      yesterday and today was all -
      Kehte hain:
      Khuda ne iss jahaan mein
      Sabhi ke liye kisi na kisi ko hai banaaya
      Har kisi ke liye
      Tera milna hai uss rab ka ishaara
      Maano mujhko banaya tere jaise hi kisi ke liye

      Kuch toh hai tujh se raabta
      Kuch toh hai tujh se raabta
      Kaise hum jaane, hume kya pata
      Kuch toh hai tujh se raabta

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    4. that dal thing took me back to our akdu eating mirchiwaali daal made by La to spite ODG..

      uff these boys!!

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    5. Jaya me too remembered bitwa eating daal .... only his was too cute !! Hayyeee

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    6. Aaru,

      Your comment reminded me of La telling ASR "Pyaar nafrat se kai badaa hota hai, sabse badaa"

      J, Sama,
      Haan bey, even I recalled bitwa eating dal. Then K was all out to make him not eat it though she was not talking to him but aaj toh she openly mixed it into RRR's daal!

      But today's epi was fun just bcos we have the creepwa villain back and not just the TF!

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    7. BTW, why is Khushi referring to TF as "Shyamji" in her monologue...she just has to read our posts for names....creepwa to begin with..

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    8. Kameena is a commonly used telly word even by the Bahus SP ya koi aur ;)

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  4. Kaash hum aapse nafrat kar paate!

    Lookig into the mirror - many moons ago, on night Arnav thought he had lost Khushi forever. That night, after he had found her safe ad sound, he had thought back to the evenings events and looking himself into that glass pane, heard his heart beat - Dhak Dhak!! His lips called out Khushi and the fai damsel standing miles away admiring the bangl he gifted her, heard her heart beats race!

    Would not her pukaar for Arnav today reach him / make him sense it in some manner too?


    Nafrat Paas Aane Na De

    Mohabbat Door Jaane Na De

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    1. Sandy...as i just said it above...I think Khushi has always loved him...Sometime a lifetime is not enuf to understand love

      its today she gets some of the answers for that bond they share...and kyun "mohabbat door jane na de"....an almost inexplicable bond they share

      I actually ignored the rest of the episode for these just these scenes.....

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    2. Rekhs!!

      There was a play of words. There was both rishta (relationship) and bandhan (bond). It started as a rishta but now it is a bandhan; from an emotional connection to a bond of matrimony but she believes the foundation is hate. She now needs to understand that the fundation is not hate but intense deep love :)

      He does not hate her; he hates that he is unable to love her (because he believes she is someone else's)

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    3. and i thought that yesterday when she recalled the teej scenes, she was finding a tender side to what she perceived then as a rakshas.. today's monologue erased that hope.


      btw, he hates her... he hates that she led him on,hates that he made himself vulnerable, while she was in love with someone else.. he had a solid wall around his heart... for her, he unbuilt the wall.. only for her to shatter his vulnerable heart with the declaration asking his jeeju to leave his di.. it was betrayal of the worst kind.. so he did hate her!

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    4. Yes Sandy....She feels he hates her becos thats the only face he has shown to her and the only times he has given her hope, he has squashed that in the very instant..

      In fact, the monologue's high point was the rishta and the bandhan...i loved it..

      Back to other aspects...the dal episode was jarring...at some level as u guys have been pointing out, Shyam is securing his coveted wealth and then going after his lust...he was in character after few days...but .wasn't Khushi playing with fire in that interlude?

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    5. J,

      He thinks he hates her

      why else thatQ at the airpor - khushi se door jaane hone par mujhe itni takleef kyun ho rahi hai?

      Hate and Love are but 2 pehlus of the same view. To hate someone you first need to have loved that person. Because in teh absence of love, you only have indifference.

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    6. No Jaya....its now not about realisation....i think it is in this aspect that the story telling of this PH is different...

      They seem to indicate that love is not a word...it is a feeling...
      one can say a lot of things for someone we have formed an affection for...deep-rooted or not...maybe even call it love...but the realisation in such complex relationships is not about that...its about accepting that love may be unrequited but there is no going back...To an extent, Khushi accepts that there is no going back...in what is essentially an unrequited love..(atleast according to K)

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    7. rekha, that part i like. I had thought that arnav had that realization at HR stage.. but his thought at the end of the airport scene shook the foundations of my theory..

      if khushi is accepting that she loves him even if he married her in hate... that is a recipe for instant forgiveness, right?

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    8. Jaya.......Khushi doesn't know that Arnav actually loves her...I think it may be shock to her that this man loved her yet thought so poorly of her..enuf cause for her to feel betrayed all over again...

      I am not saying that CVs will do this....they may turn this around to show an Arnav being harsh on himself and Khushi being forgiving..it can go anyways...the tale can be gripping even then....

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    9. I think it's a coming together of Khushi's feelings and crystalising into words what she actually feels for this complex man. For Arnav, it was easier, he fell in love with the girl he saw - with Khushi what you see is what you get - and his hatred arose in part because he couldn't believe that she WASN'T what he thought she was.

      With Khushi it's the opposite ... Arnav is a complex man, what he shows is totally different from what he really feels, and for her to figure him out from his hot and cold behaviour was tough enough without adding a forced marriage based on a misunderstanding, to the equation. And she needed this time of separation to realise that this bond is not what she thought it is ... it's not hatred, it's something else. Only when you feel strongly, can you love or hate ... otherwise if you don't care, there is only indifference. And she felt strongly always ... it took the marriage, living together, seeing different sides of the man, plus the insights given by Nani and Anjali to start figuring out the man, so complex is he. And still she has not figured out the final piece of the puzzle - that he loves her, and he hates himself for loving her.

      So while he fell in love with what he saw, she has fallen in love with him despite what she saw, now that she has started to realise that he isn't what she thought he was on the surface.

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    10. Dia,

      So beautifully said. I recall telling Shweths that Khushi should think about her feelings before the MU clears because just like you said, she feels for him despite what she saw and what he did. The day she figures it out completely will be teh day she realizes the true essense of his final HR dialogue.

      For Arnav, it has to be more of how he has not stopped loving her despite what he thiks she has done because yes he had acknowledged his feelings to self that fateful night.

      Rekha,

      Loved your thought about how love is not a word but a feeling - ehsaas...

      And yes Khushi today told herself that though it maybe unrequited there seemed to be no going back for her from this relationship / bond.

      Somewhere Khushi's introspection makes me think she will eventually realize that he loves her behind all that facade of hate. (Thinking of how she had prised the earring out of Arnav's hands though he hid it after the HR play).

      On a lighter note;
      Surprizingly, a session of crying on Anji's lap seems to have been mandatory for both to start evaluating their feelings for the other ;)

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    11. Dia...beautifully put.....

      While i have been drawn to this PH's style of story telling, am beginning to appreciate it more and more with passing days...They have erred on several occasions by not keeping a tight rein on the narrative but when they do, its wonderful...


      it took the marriage, living together, seeing different sides of the man, plus the insights given by Nani and Anjali to start figuring out the man, so complex is he.


      Yes, the PH chose an unusual way to get Khushi to have this perspective (yes, some of it we have ranted about too!!) but the final result is more believable, IMO....as this love story is complex...

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    12. Dia, Sandy, beautifully described. Yes, Khushi fell in love with a complex man with all his flaws - the beast so to say, even before she knew there is a prince hidden within him. She has always loved him unconditionally although she herself was not aware that she did so. She used his brutish behaviour as an excuse to ward him off. The few rare occasions she had let down her guard and tried to probe his feelings before letting herself openly love him, he had crushed her feelings either because of his own inability to accept that his weakness for her or because he felt she had betrayed him. So she skillfully masked her true feelings even to herself but now in his absence, particularly with her gut feeling warning her that he is in danger, she is beginning to realise the depth of her love for her man. Although she has problems of her own to tackle, she prays for his well being, not hers, showing the extent of her selfless love.


      Arnav fell in love with the innocent, courageous, loving, principled,hardworking and sometimes crazy young girl who was like no other girl he has met before. As Sandy said, although he has fallen in love with what he saw, now he has reached a stage where he loves her unconditionally, despite believing that she betrayed him. He may be angry with her for playing with his feelings and his sister's life but he cannot bring himself to hate her. That is why even in the heights of misunderstanding her he just couldn't stop loving or caring for her. In the Heer Ranjha scene he even voiced his feelings when he said it no longer matters whether it is right or wrong. He put up with all her pranks to irritate him not only because deep down he is still struggling to believe the worst of her but also because he is far too deeply in love with her than he cared to admit even to himself.


      Opti

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    13. Opti...
      Absolutely....with this contrast....

      when i said she has always loved him, i meant exactly what u have so beautiful expressed...
      "So she skillfully masked her true feelings even to herself but now in his absence, particularly with her gut feeling warning her that he is in danger, she is beginning to realise the depth of her love for her man".....


      in a way...her being upset after her resignation, feeling something amiss when she was making taxi ride to Delhi station,her discomfiture at the ASR-La hug, her dhak-dhak, acidity...countless incidents really all culminating in to a crescendo....

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  5. Rekha or Jaya who said whenever you hear any song nowadays to try to see how it fits to Arhi.. this one of fav song which I was listening. and so fits Khushi for this week..

    Din dhal jaaye, haye raat na jaaye (2)
    tu to na aaye teri yaad sataye (2)

    Pyar mein jinke sab jag chhoda
    aur hue badnaam
    unke hi haato haal hua yeh
    baithe hai dil ko thaam
    apne kabhi the, ab hai paraye

    Din dhal jaaye, haye raat na jaaye
    tu to na aaye teri yaad sataye
    din dhal jaaye

    aisi hi rimzim, aise buhare
    aisi hi thi barsaat
    khud se judaa aur jag se paraye
    hum dono hai saath
    phir se woh saawan ab kyon na aaye

    Din dhal jaaye, haye raat na jaaye
    tu to na aaye teri yaad sataye
    din dhal jaaye

    dil ke mere paas ho itne
    phir bhi ho kitni door
    tum mujhse mein dil se pareshaan
    dono hai majboor
    aise me kisko kaun manaye

    Din dhal jaaye, haye raat na jaaye
    tu to na aaye teri yaad sataye
    din dhal jaaye

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_002K49S10

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    1. Aaru,

      Haayeee
      "dil ke mere paas ho itne
      phir bhi ho kitni door
      tum mujhse mein dil se pareshaan
      dono hai majboor
      aise me kisko kaun manaye"

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    2. Aaru and Sandy...awww for ur dedications....

      I am in the mood for another song for ARHI ..

      A very CONTRARY SONG...if ever there was one on love.....

      Tumhe ho naa ho, mujhko to itana yakeen hai
      mujhe pyaar tum se nahin hai, nahin hai

      mujhe pyaar tum se nahin hai, nahin hai
      magar maine yeh raaz ab tak na jaanaa
      ki kyun pyaari lagati hain, baatein tumhaari

      main kyun tum se milne ka dhundho bahana
      kabhi maine chaha, tumhe choo ke dekhun
      kabhi maine chaha, tumhe paas lana
      magar phir bhi is baat ka toh yakeen hain..

      phir bhi jo tum door rahate ho mujh se
      toh rahate hain dil pe, udasi ke saaye
      koi khwaab unchi makanon se jhaanke
      koi khwaab baitha rahen, sar jhukaye
      kabhi dil ki raahon main phayle andhera
      kabhi door tak roshani muskuraye


      Song from Gharondha sung by Runa Laila
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqKcH804fb4&feature=related

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    3. wow Rekha,

      mujhe pyaar tum se nahin hai, nahin hai
      magar maine yeh raaz ab tak na jaanaa
      ki kyun pyaari lagati hain, baatein tumhaari

      too good..

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    4. Rekhs,

      Aaj sirf Aaru ne song dedicate maara hai :)

      And I loved urs too.

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    5. Lovely songs, girls! And very apt! especially Aaru's ...

      "dil ke mere paas ho itne
      phir bhi ho kitni door
      tum mujhse mein dil se pareshaan
      dono hai majboor
      aise me kisko kaun manaye"

      Kisko kaun manaye ... truly that has been their issue all along ... both hotheads unwilling to give an inch and show their weakness towards each other ...

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    6. Sandy..tere bol kuch dedication se kam hain kya?

      Loved ur analysis as always.....

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    7. Arre Rekhs,

      Tu naa bahut dildaar hai. actually all u girls here are! chalo um sab ke liye chand alfaaz

      from Kaho Na Pyaar Hai
      "Dhadakta Bhi Hai, Tadapta Bhi Hai
      Ye Dil Kyon Achanak Bahakta Bhi Hai
      Mahakta Bhi Hai, Chahakta Bhi Hai
      Ye Dil Kya Vafa Ko Samajhta Bhi Hai
      Kyon Milti Hain Nazar
      Kyon Hota Hai Asar
      Kyon Hoti Hai Sahar
      Na Tum Jano Na Hum"

      And from Mujhse Dosti Karogi
      "Is Dil Pe Lagte Hai Jo Woh Zakhm Dikhte Nahin
      Apnose Milte Hai Jo Woh Dard Mite Nahin
      Maine Paas Apne Nahin Bas Door Jabse Hai Tu"

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  6. Lovely selection of songs Ladies!

    by the way, Khushi has yet to open the proverbial door before she gets the pearls of wisdom??? Opti - what's your take?

    Aki

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    1. Aki,

      I will wait to see what Opi says. But she has already started getting her peals of wisdom. What remains is for her to collect the rest and string them together!

      Sorry ya Opti, cudn't help but butt in ;)

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  7. Loved 'Tu Hi Bataa Mere Maula' Revisit .... It was perfect!! :)

    Though it was abrupt but I loved the first FB today, their first and last meeting (for now):

    She fell into his arms, his hold firm .... Goodbye at airport, again his hols was firm breaking her hold !!

    She was then scared to have met him .... Now she was scared to have let him go !!

    "Mil payenge yeh dono .... kya teri iss pe hai raza !!"

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  8. Oh welcome back Gargi and Sandy ... Good to have you back.

    Guess what Sandy... IPK got to know you took leave from R&R so they kept Wednesdays Wonderful :D :D

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    1. Sama,

      Huggs !!

      I think they basically kept the full duration of my absence wonderful :)

      Uff ab tu bhi yeh bol rahi hai. theek hai theek hai..main bhi gaayab ho jaati hoon!

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    2. Nahiiiiiiiiii ..... Aap nahi toh hamein pepper wala daal koun samjhata?!?! ..... All i could see was bitwa cutely eating his daal even after bitiya stopped him ... was angry with cvs at first for meddling with that scene!

      Hope your workload gets easy :)

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  9. By the way, did you girls notice, they blurred out the date on Arnav's message :D It was 10th May and the reply was on 14th May :)))

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  10. Today also highlighted the integral difference between the two men who are supposedly in love with khushi. It showed shyam who also thinks he loves her telling her she will not win against him, his love will always be selfish even at it's best whereas arnav, for whom every thing rests on winning and losing cannot see her lose, he will sacrifice himself for her as shown in the guesthouse incident where actually shyam showed that he would not call the raizadas and risk being discovered even when khushi's life was in danger

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    1. Sonu,

      Kya baat hai! Yes Khushi needs to see just how good her Dark Knight is :)

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    2. Hey! Another Sonu in the coffeeshop..:-)
      I loved ur thoughts on Arnav & Shyam. Arnav may have problems accepting he's in love..par use pyaar nibhana aata hai..and Shyam pyar jatate nahi thakta par pyar ki spelling bhi nahi jaanta.And this actually happens in life I think.Many of those people who are very loud abt their declarations of love and friendship..run when the going gets tough..jabki chup chap background me rehne wale log zaroorat ke kathin samay me aage aake support karte hai.They r our true friends and true love.
      May God give us the wisdom to differentiate between these 2 sets of poeple in our lives!

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    3. are - so our karisha kaun, raveena kaun dialogue is comming true - we will be asking soon - sonu kuan??? (as in kaun si wali ;)

      sonu & sinu - good points - and amen to your blessing!!

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  11. Sanaya was brilliant in her mini breakdown (CVs still waiting of the final breakdown on the recliner). What I loved was the
    one - their song -which so defines them,
    two - the voice over rather than Khushi's monologues.
    three - the scene near the French door of the poolside.

    @shwets I think we will get the recliner one when she remembers the Holi confession "hamari dhadkan ek oh jaye gi"

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  12. 1) must say odg and odb are very very alike!! both loose the use of their brains when in anger - now why would you play with fire MDG? instigate the villain into action!! you are opening yourself to attack - you already know this man is getting bolder by the day - avoid him like the plague! - don't pamper his ego by giving him the slightest hint that says you wish to communicate with him(even if only to say you hate him)

    2) hated the daal scene not coz TF was repulsive - he had to be - but coz the dal main mirchi thing was reserved for ODB&G and for her to get sold milk later on!

    3) like the rishta and bandhan dialogues ...
    liked her saying - "it would be foolish to get into such a relationship - built on hatred - but i think i have made the mistake hence i miss you etc.. -

    4) was wondering that ODG also is not using her brains to the fullest (true, she has arnav's absence and shyam to deal with) but what i mean is - she should also have FBs of the just pre wedding (read sangeet/mehndi) time - that should be added to the terrace statement of ODB of why he married her and then maybe she can come to the right conclusions - she basically has to move from 'i cant let you think of me as a cheat' to 'i understand that you love/loved me too and hence your 'hatred - coz you though i had wronged you' - so her realization from 'self' to 'him' - from proving herself innocent to why this all consuming anger - it is more than just his love for his di

    5) best line of the day - phir qyun hum...hawaon say aapki batain kartey hain? - well this had to happen dear - the winds have been privy to your relationship as much as we have :D

    6) DB please come home soon - your lady love is in some serious danger here

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    1. Quick reply to point 4 - there are lots more fb's to come :) because Arnav is still missing ... and I think today was just the start of her realisation ... I hope they continue this route and have her complete it ... she recognises her love, but not his yet ...

      so maybe we'll get those terrace fb's yet !

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  13. ok did Khushi call Btiwa Arnav, when she breakdowns ???

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  14. well said Sonu - ODB despite doing everything for a ruthless win could never see her not fight back, let alone see her fail - he loves her the way she is - she has the fighter spirit but a bigger heart of gold!
    Creepwa is more concerned about winning her - irrespective of her wishes/feelings!
    And adding to that ODB has always been honest - he does not stand shams - whereas Shyam is nothing but a weak, self obsessed selfish sham!!

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  15. Hats of Hiten and CVs Just beautiful words,

    kuch rishtey ajeeb he dor mein bandhe hote hain...
    takraar se shuru hote hain...
    nafrat ke saaye mein panapte hain...
    girte hain, padte hain, par kaayam rehte hain...
    nafrat badhti jaati hai...
    aur rishtey ki gaanth aur gehri hoti jaati hai...
    itni ki, ek din nafrat bhi aur badhne se sharma jaati hai!
    aur woh rishta sirf ek bandhan banke reh jata hai...
    lekin, sirf nafrat wala...
    kabhi kabhi aisa lagta hai jaise nafrat ke uss maahaul mein...
    kuch toh hai, jo humse kehta hai ki...
    iss ansune, anjaane se, ankahe se ehsaas ko ek mauka toh do...
    par jis rishtey ki neev he nafrat pe rakkhi gayi,
    usse koi bhi umeed lagana naadani nai toh aur kya hoga...
    aur shayad yeh naadani hum kar baithe hain...
    warna kyu itni nafrat ke baavjood........
    hame aapki yaad aa rahi hai.......
    kyun hum aapse ladhte hain, jhagadte hain......
    lekin aapke jaane ke baad.......
    aap he ki raah dekhte hain......
    hawaaon se aapki baaten karte hain.......

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    1. "aur rishtey ki gaanth aur gehri hoti jaati hai...
      itni ki, ek din nafrat bhi aur badhne se sharma jaati hai!"

      Now that is something not said in screens before .... Muaaaaah

      Just Loved It !!!

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    2. That was very, very, very beautifully put together by the writers and perfectly enacted by Sanaya - thanks for putting it up here - reading it just helps to appreciate the beauty of words penned..................

      Aki

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  16. Dia and Girls - I was YTing on my phone while driving to work (yes, that's how crazy I am about IPK) .So may have missed every minute detail but have a pretty good idea of what it was all about.

    I absolutely loved today's episode , even better than what we saw for the past 3 days. I think it's a blessing in disguise that Barun is out, we are getting to see more of Sanaya's brilliance . This is my first Sanaya serial but now can completely realte to why all of you are gaga over her.
    I got both of my favorite songs back. I always wanted the 'Tui hi bata' song back , and very glad that they decided to bring it back today. Very apt placement of the lyrics. I also loved the Teej song which they played during the puja today.

    Hated the daal scene, but I think this maybe needed to push Shyam make the ultimate move on Khushi. I'm still on te fence on why they are showing Khushi even willing to have a conversation with Shyam, even challenging him to eat the daal with pepper in it , but will give the CVs the benefit of doubt and wait and watch.

    Glad that the Bubbly track is wrapping up, tomorrow there maybe a blow-up about the shirt that Akaash wanted Payal to iron.

    Kudos to the story writers, screenplay writers and the directors. This is the IPK we signed up for and such a pity that we get to see this quality when Barun is away. Can we add a shiddat to see this kind of story telling going when ASR comes back?

    It is going to be a year since the serial premiered and we are yet to see love between the leads. I am so starved.

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  17. I was rewatching the episode and though at first I thought today was a bit of a waste it appears that it is building on yesterday in terms of the khushi realisation, so if they are going the khushi saving Arnav way then she should be aware of her feelings before she does? I'm guessing that tomorrow she'll get the call from London, and the kidnapped drama will start, at which point they'd show odb again? I really hope that Arnav too introspects while locked up or whatever because I want him to know that whatever happened or will happen, he truly does and always will love odg and so when the truth comes out it's not like 'i love you because you're innocent' but I loved you even when I didn't think so.

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  18. One thought!!

    During ME Anji says tomorrow is their Mom’s birthday, and he likes to be alone and they don’t know where he goes, but she knows he is going to London. *head desk* why so much contradiction in one sentence??
    Agreed he might be going to London for work but then why did he scheduled his work on that day, that is on his mom’s birthday? Beats me, so it means that Bitwa likes to be away from the nagging family but isn’t holed for the day? – is this again an indication that he is gone to Lucknow?? Away from the nagging family, close to his mom?? Or this year was an exception? And he decided that he wouldn’t be holed up??

    And why hasn’t Aman got the message from London office that ASR hasn’t reached?? Akash was talking to Aman when he was leaving the dining table. That would have been enough time for them to know that ASR hasn’t arrived. And now as per the promo if Khushi’s receives the phone of ASR not reaching London – is so illogical.

    @Sonu 2
    Arnav's introspect will come, and almost at the airport he has done that by turning back -locked up will only be to connect dots of the events and what ODG has said, that she has been true all thru and that "I loved her even when I thought she "loves someone else, a homewercker and a gold digger".

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    1. Aaru ... shaantii .... Friday abhi baki hai ... We will get the call today as Dia said last scene of the week.

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    2. aaru, TQ was saying "in olden times, he sneaks off to god knows where.." this time, going to london was work related travel and so she knows where he is.

      exactly, he wants to be away from the nagging family..
      but then, he took off for his parent's barsi...maybe because he has things to do on barsi and nothing to do but stand around and wallow on moms birthday anniversary?

      khushi getting the phone call from london office is illogical on so many levels.. let us wait and watch which level the CVs choose!

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  19. I have watched 'Tu Hi Baata' - 17 May 2012 for umpteenth times .... So damn beautiful !

    Now I am even mad at cvs .... How can you be the same bunch who delivered 'ASR satao 101'?!?!

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  20. wow Dia .... I have become more emotional after your edit of 'Tu hi Baata' ... off to watch it again :)

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    1. Thanks, Sama ... I've watched it so many times already myself! It was tough to do the edit - every time I just landed up watching the entire scene again!

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    2. Totally understand your situation :)

      Oh I wanted to share this yesterday but slipped out of my mind. My cousin stayed over yesterday at my place. I am the one who got her hooked to IPK (not a TV person). She is fairly regular with IPK but did not missed an episode since Arnav Khushi confrontation on terrace last tuesday. She is enjoying it immensely.

      I was sure she has no idea about Barun's leave or his doing BW movie so asked her (discussion was long just writing 2 Q's which made me think)

      "when do you expect Arnavs whereabouts to be known and him to be shown again?".

      Her prompt reply .... "Its just the 1st day maybe 2nd or 3rd day but first family has to know he has not reached London yet".

      Next question "Why do you think kidnappers din't ask for ransom money?"

      She ... "What?! How do you know?! Did they say anything such I din't notice?!"

      Made me think .... I could have been trilled with this track too in various ways other than just Khushi's heartache and vulnerabilities.

      My cousin is not bothered about what will happen to the hero/show or the excess info of Barun leave fiasco and is enjoying & to keep her interest alive have decided to keep this info till Arnav makes a comeback or she herself is tired of no info on ASR.... Wish I was her.

      Not possible as I spend half my afternoon browsing info on IPK.

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    3. You know, Sama, when I think logically, the first thing that strikes is that ASR HAS TO BE MISSING RIGHT NOW ... the whole track is about the suspense as to where is he, what's happened ... and abhi the suspense has barely started. We don't even know has he been kidnapped or not - in spite of all the behind the scenes news ... we're speculating based entirely on the news of WHEN he's going to be back.
      Just two scenes relating to his disappearance so far - one of Man in Brown Suit deleting the sms, and the second of the London office that arnav has not reached yet. And of course Khushi's nightmare and her feeling repeatedly that something is wrong ... in fact, that's what made me change my mind on the "Arnav has gone missing deliberately" idea too.

      So they are unfolding the track very slowly ... and the regular viewer won't even expect to see him back for some time yet ... like your cousin. They will all be enjoying the suspense.

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    4. Sama, by the way, since your cousin has been watching regularly since the terrace scene, does she feel the last two weeks have been better than the last couple of months?

      Just want to get a feel of what the 'regular viewer' (not pagals like us) feel :)

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  21. Random Point to Ponder:

    Recalled a comment Opti made a while back about the names of Arnav and Khushi and their essences.

    Arnav needs to understand the abstract that is air while Khushi needs to delve the depths of the ocean

    Khushi believes in stars whom we equate to diamonds - formed under pressure inside the earth. Pressure is usually equated to air. When initially mined, they still have traces of the earth and need to be cleaned, polished and cut to bring to fore the sparkling gem within. - much like Arnav don't u think?
    Arnav who appears to be nothing but black carbon at first glance reveals his inner shine only upon close inspection. But the final master cut still remains.

    Arnav's first encounter with Khushi - he broke a string of pearls. Pearls are found in the water, hard substances made by oysters by covering up a foreign irritant in layers of a stuff they secrete thereby protecting themselves. Well rounded pearls are very valuable. Much like Khushi don't you think?

    Khushi an irritant to Arnav has been gradually coated in layers of his hate as a defence over time. Perhaps now the pearl is all formed and ready to reveal its simplistic yet beautiful nature.

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  22. Barun's turn is over..ab Daljeet ki baari hai...IF says she is leaving!!!kya ho raha hai iss show ke saath!!!

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    1. Oi ani,

      u r here - missed ur comment earlier..kaisi hai bey!

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    2. anita, latest: lakshmi is leaving!!

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    3. Arey, I am sad ... OP, JP and one HP already left ... nobody even said bye to them!

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    4. seriously! where are the rest of the raizada service staff?? they had so many when la used to live there...

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  23. WOW!! not for the episode - for you Dia - what an edit - will have to re-watch the episode to do justice to your edit!!

    wondered why they had to show ODB go off in such an angry way - the way he forcefully removed his hand from hers - well in makes sense now - if he had not been like this - she would not have had this breakdown - its not that he is not around (i mean not completely!) its also that he left without a smile, a loving word to her - don't worry bitya - this will change for sure :)

    Geetu - ODG did not eat the daal because he asked her too - am pretty sure she would like to see him starve - she ate it coz she knew she was vulnerable and alone and the creep would not leave till she had eaten - he said 'how can i leave - RS will ask if you have eaten' - so in response she has a bite.

    Opti - loved your description of KKG! perfect words for her - will only add that she seems like a 'lightweight' but ODB knows she can and does carry the weight of her family well- and always with a smile - burdens way heavier than she needs to be carrying

    and Dia - so so wish that her feelings and thinking shift from 'me' to 'him loving me' soon - just like at the mandir - where she is praying to GOD for him - links it to her happiness and then goes back to praying for him - that was well done - if only she starts seeing the whole pic - that would be great


    please keep writing and discussing - having a rotten day - need these short breaks to breath!

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    1. Yep, when I re-watched the Creepwa scene - tough to do! - I realized he started making his advances on her, told her he could feed her himself if she didn't eat ... so I did understand why she ate.

      But then why the heck she had to then feed him the mirchi vaali daal ... she could have just said, ok, you can tell Di I ate already, now please go ...

      Re: her realisation - I think her realization is coming in stages ... and with Barun away, they can take their time over it, good thing too, because she has a lot more to understand than he did ...
      Monday Anjali first gave her a glimpse of Arnav - that he hides his pain from others ... that his anger might not be anger, but is a reflection of his pain ... she still thinks the pain is the hurt he thinks she gave his Di, not the hurt she gave him ...

      Tuesday she starts missing him in earnest, without really wondering why she is missing him ... plus she gets the nightmare about his being in trouble ... and wakes up the entire house at night with her panic ...

      Wednesday that feeling is reinforced and they focused on Nani's words, and Khushi realising that the man has a strong protective streak in him, which has surfaced for her many times ... her flashbacks were of his protective avatar ... not necessarily love, but just that he is protective in general - he was like that with Payal once he got to know her story, with La despite her ways, even with BG ... and her fb's reinforced that.

      Thursday the feeling of his being in trouble is getting stronger and stronger, she prays to Mahadev to protect him ... and she wonders for the first time in words something that has been puzzling her ever since she got the SMS - why a message? Why to her?

      And the combination of missing him, to the point that even her favorite stress-buster doesn't work, and the deepening feeling of his being in trouble leads to her breakdown ... why is she worried so much about him, why she is missing him despite his lack of trust, despite his anger, despite the hate marriage, the reason for which she now knows ... it's because those feelings she had started developing for him during Diwali and had crushed inside herself, have started blooming again ...
      She had put aside ALL hope, and never let herself think about him in that light after Diwali ... he hated her ... then when he married her without telling her why, somewhere she was hoping that the reason was something to do with HER ... that's why she supported his lies all along, never gave him away in front of his family or hers ... but when he told her the real reason, and refused to even listen to her explanation, she broke again ... that last hope gone, because she knew he would never forgive anyone who harmed his Di ...
      So her realisation is more about she still loves him, despite trying to crush her feelings repeatedly, that hope still seems to be there ... but now she can't crush or subdue those feelings any more, or pretend they don't exist, even to herself ... despite knowing that he will never love her back ... because the reason he married her was HATE ... not love, never love ...

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    2. dia! Thank you! NOW i get it!
      now I get the meaning of the words.. " par jis rishte ki neev hi nafrat par rakhi gayi ho ... us rishte se kuch bhi ummeed lagana nadaani nahin toh aur kya hoga ..."

      so she says that she still has hope in her marriage.. even if it is innocence to keep that hope, considering the current situation that you described so perfectly above.

      i was thinking the"rishta" meant the love.. but the "rishta" means the marriage. confusion cleared!

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    3. Dia,

      Wow Wow Wow!!!

      "Kabhi kabhi aisa lagta hai ki jaise nafrat ke us mahaul mein ... kuch to hai ... jo humse kehta hai ki ...

      iss ansuni, anjaane se, ankahe se ehsaas ko ek mauka toh do ...

      par jis rishte ki neev hi nafrat par rakhi gayi ho ... us rishte se kuch bhi ummeed lagana nadaani nahin toh aur kya hoga ...

      par shayad yeh nadaani hum kar baithe hain ...
      varna kyun itni nafrat ke bawajood, humein aapki yaad aa rahi hai?"

      made me think of a dialogue where khushi said, haa mr raizada, hum theek hain, aapki wajah se nahi aapke bawajood bhi theek hain. meri dilli tamanna thi ki she says nafrat ke bawajood...

      Like we always have said here, even with this, there is no going back for Khushi. She like Arnav for a while now will have to bear the pain of unrequited love...

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    4. J,

      " par jis rishte ki neev hi nafrat par rakhi gayi ho ... us rishte se kuch bhi ummeed lagana nadaani nahin toh aur kya hoga ..."

      But the relationship whose very foundation is hate, setting any kind of hopes from that relationship would be naive / foolish.

      "Par shaayad yeh naadaani hum kar baithe hain"
      However I think I have committed this act of foolishness in my naivete.

      Her hope for something from the rishta that Arnav and she share, from that connection that seems to only get knotted more oblivious of the travails of time and events.

      She speaks of the "kuch toh hai tujhse raabta" when seh speaks of rishta whether it be love or it be marriage!

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    5. Yes, the 'rishta' she talks about is her marriage ... when she says the words ...
      voh rishta ek bandhan ban ke reh jaata hai ... lekin sirf nafrat ka ...
      And her fb at the words is of their marriage in the temple ... a nafrat ka bandhan ... the strange love-hate relationship they shared culminated into a rishta, but one where there was only hate ...

      And then she says, kabhi kabhi uss mahaul mein lagta hai ki kuch toh hai ... iss ankahe ansune anjaane ehsaas ko ek mauka toh do ...
      and she thinks of the times she felt there was some hope for her marriage, the times she thought he cared for her - carrying her out of the temple in public, the Teri Meri reprise ... when she thought there was some hope for her marriage ...

      ... par jiss rishte ki neev hi nafrat par rakhi ho, usse kuch ummeed rakhna nadaani nahin toh aur kya hai ...

      It was foolish to have any long term hope for a rishta, a marriage that was based only on hate ... here she's talking about HIS hate, not hers ... here she only remembers him telling her the reason he married her, ONLY to save Di's marriage, and the hate and anger in his eyes ... because there was never hatred from her side ...

      Aur yeh nadaani hum kar baithe hain ...
      And that's the foolish mistake she has committed ... kept on hoping that her marriage will work ... she can't wipe out that hope ... because she can't stop thinking about him, missing him, loving him ... she doesn't want a six month marriage, she wants a lifelong bandhan with him, one of love ...

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    6. hayee.. iss pyar ko kya kare hum!

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  24. re read the whole discussion and came to a realization.. i have been reading too much into their eyelocks! the SI-BS chemistry made me write unimaginable number of love stories in my head..

    the CVs, in this last week, told us these two characters are still at the "kuch toh he tum se raabta" stage..... arnav is questioning why he finds it difficult to leave khushi ...and khushi's realization that this connection that she has with him is stronger than the hate in his eyes when he looks at her..

    and yes Dia, today is the day when ODG realizes the true danger of TF. and the way he said that he loves her.. even though he is married, she is married, etc etc.. shows the depth of his madness.. and that is indeed dangerous.


    read the edited post... as always, you have taken the ordinary to the sublime. there is magic in your word-weaving, i tell you!

    now i will explain why i hated the episode..
    i did not hate the sample presented today, i personally hated the ideas presented today.

    the episode was one of the intense ones... As we can see, after khushi's suicide day, The CVs have indeed tightened the whole feel of the show.

    point 1) I hate that khushi is still struggling with "iss pyar ko kya naam doon" she cant think of a name... (means that for the future x number of days barun is absent from the sets, we will see flashes of the whole story inFBs.)

    SN.once i had said, to counteract the lack of an episode bank, they can show us a recap of the whole story... they are doing that now! woven into the track as khushi's realization. great idea...

    i hate it because khushi already knows this.. remember devi maiyya's ishaare before diwali... which is why she let the almost kiss happen.. and why she was heartbroken after the engagement announcement. ..

    she loved him once, loved him twice.. broken hearted, she loved him thrice! if not for love, why did she attempt suicide to make way clear for arnav-La? dont tell me she does not know she loves him... ..oh OH (mentos moment) she is reorganizing her brain after knowing the truth of her marriage! ..that is where i hated todays episode .. she should be saying "how can i still love him and miss him after knowing that he has nothing but hate in his mind for me NOW"

    point 2. ) yes, the vile snake is getting bolder and taking more liberties with her, in her marital room!

    SN(although since on the set his room and her room, are the same, some ownership toh banta hai! no wonder they are both so cool and casual in each other's room!)

    what i hated was that forcing of the situation.. if there were somebody in the vicinity to help her, then okay.. but the whole abla nari (typical serial crap) grates on me big time. will wait for todays epi to see if she gets help or strenghthens her spine.

    point 3. i hated that she called shiva's protection on arnav, yet refused protection for herself.. i am sentimental that way, i have a feeling that the situation will not improve until she holds devi maiyya's hand again. ... but maybe i am wrong.



    anyway,
    loved your edit, Dia.. your blending of the song and the scene and the dialogues.. WOW! off to watch it again now.

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    1. Jaya - i complete understand your anger and no you did not read too much in their eye lock - they both know - loud and clear about their feeling (their own feelings) the only thing that is missing is their realization that the other is in it as deep as they are themselves!!

      But being a tv soap (soap being the important word here) the CVs keep oscillating between - is it -is it not. they have clearly said it - not once not twice but many times over that the couple is in love - but being a soap that too with a tagline like there - they know that the love between the couple once professed out loud will not be lost - so they keep doing this - this 'why' dialogue

      The characters are pretty clear - they may doubt why - for example - KKG might wonder why she loves him despite his behavior and he may think why he stills loves her despite her(supposed) behavior - but they both know that they do :D

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    2. J,

      A balm to soothe your anger. From the 1960's movie Khamoshi

      "Humne dekhi hai un aankhon ki mehakti khushboo
      Haath se choo ke isse rishton ka ilzaam na do
      Sirf ehsaas hai yeh, rooh se mehsoos karo
      Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do, koi naam na do
      Humne dekhi hai un aankhon ki mehakti khushboo
      Haath se choo ke isse rishton ka ilzaam na do

      Pyar koi bol nahin, pyar awaz nahin
      Ek khamoshi hai, sunti hai kaha karti hai
      Na yeh bujhti hai, na rukti hai, na thehri hai kahin
      Noor ki boond hai sadiyon se baha karti hai
      Sirf ehsaas hai yeh, rooh se mehsoos karo
      Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do, koi naam na do

      Muskurahat se khili rehti hia aankhon mein kahin
      Aur palkon pe ujale se ruke rehte hain
      Honth kuch kehte nahin, kaanpte honthon pe mager
      Kitne khamosh se afsane ruke rehte hain
      Sirf ehsaas hai yeh, rooh se mehsoos karo
      Pyar ko pyar hi rehne do, koi naam na do
      Humne dekhi hai un aankhon ki mehakti khushboo
      Haath se choo ke isse rishton ka ilzaam na do "

      Google it and listen. Its a beautiful song!

      Rekhs,
      This one is also for your comment on how pyaar is an ehsaas and not just a word...

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    3. Sandy, wow.. just beautiful.

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    4. Sandy...
      HUGS HUGS HUGS
      THIS IS MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE SONG...its my anthem !!

      I find resonance of this song in
      Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon all the time..

      GULZAR at his best!! Hemanthda at his sublime best!!
      Lata Mangeshkar's voice surreal!!

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    5. Jaya, replied to you above ... :)

      Sandy ... LOVE that song ... simply LOVE it!!!

      A last addition ... so they are now BOTH at the stage of 'why can't I stop loving him/her despite everything he/she did?' ...
      not 'I love him/her' ...
      that's my interpretation!

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  25. I just love the realisation scene... Beautifullly done and amazing acting... Phenomenal:-) thats the intensity I miss... I was that remembering Diwali scene when she broke down.

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    1. Gargs,

      That warm fuzzy feeling!

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    2. Oh and Gargs,

      "But mostly I hate the way I don't hate you — Not even close, not even a little bit, not even at all."

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    3. Sandy,

      Ur posts on their names (arnav -ocean and Khushi - happiness) reminded me of this song

      Mere pyaar ki umar ho itni sanam,
      Tere naam pe shuru, tere naam pe khatam
      Teri khushi se ho khushi, tere gham se ho gham...
      Tere naam pe shuru, tere naam pe khatam

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    4. Rekha,

      Waaris!! mere man main bhi tha - bas ab toone bol diya :)

      You should go back and read Opti's riginal post on their names. It was so Hayyye.

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    5. Sandy...will do that....

      Opti, is there a shortcut way to get that post back...or tell me how do i access it?Tks

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    6. Aaaah 10 Things I Hate About You .... I love that movie ... It got imprinted the moment I heard those lines :)

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    7. Rekha, hayyeee ... beautiful!!!

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    8. 10 things i hate about you... (swoon)

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  26. My family has become as crazy abt this serial as me.I was shocked out of my wits last night.Was re-watching the episode last night with my 2 year old in my lap.As soon as they showed the first FB of Khushi & Arnav close together, he started singing,"Rabba ve...rabba ve...o o o..rabba ve"!! The full line! I was soo zapped!:-) Not only that he sang it but also the timing...he knew the line comes when these 2 get close.Can u imagine? Kids notice more than we give them credit for.:-)

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    1. aaww - yes kids notice a bit too much if you ask me - have to be ever careful :D

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  27. Sbs today is kinda creepy. Shyam bathe in k and a's bathroom. ~cheng

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    1. Jaya, eww indeed! How long b4 arnav comes back. I think he's behind that kidnapping. He is really at ease, his behavior is increasingly bolder. ~cheng

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    2. Who wanted psychopath lover Shyaam?!?! Absolutely there now .... on tuesday he was too sleepy to pay attention to Khushi.

      Btw how did VLR get to know that our bitiya was totally mesmerized by her HH's Akhada look ?!?!

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    3. Sama,

      Lookign forward to the VLR in action. Finally our prayers for the villainous joker have been heard. Brin it on I say. If bitwa made a mistake in instantly judging Khushi and will reaalize it, Khushi also needs to realize hoe grave a misake she did in keeping silent about VLR and giving him 2nd and 3rd chances thereby giving him the courage to take advantage of her.

      And yaar saving the abala naari ahs always sent TRPs also soaring :)

      Dekha tujhe itni aasaani see nahi chodne waali hoon Sama.

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    4. cheng, thank you for posting that here.. if i was watching the epi and sham came out in akhada gear in khushi's bedroom, i would have shut off the tv and went. at least the CVs had enough sense to show on SBS how that scene ends.. now i will suffer thru that scene when it airs. Dettol rinse does not cut it any more!!

      and cheng, somehow this reinforces the feeling that sham kidnapped arnav!

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    5. Yes..Sama...sorry mee too was questioning on where was phscho lover...so i am not unhappy..TF urf VLR has to be in character...It has to get worse before it gets better..thats life..

      Gargi (i think)and I have had a discussion in the past about Khushi's mistake....I agree with Sandy...that she played with fire..unknowingly tho...will be brought out at some point...

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    6. Girls, it's sbb sorry.. Me too I find it creepy of how bold shyaam right now. ~cheng

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    7. No Rekha, Sandy ... I don't mind VLR ... villain nahi toh how will story proceed .... I just wanted to know who said it .... Shiddat granted nah yaar that too weekly shiddat post mein entry se pehle :D

      Sandy "aap ne chuliya hamare liye iss se khushi ki baat aur kya ho sakti hai" *VLR evil grin* ...... Sorry about that Brainwa in VLR moodwa ;)

      Ab pakda hi hai toh answer this ....

      "Btw how did VLR get to know that our bitiya was totally mesmerized by her HH's Akhada look ?!?!"

      When bitiya herself has not connected to it yet in her FB's

      VLR Telepathy!!!! :O

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    8. Oye, guys, how does the scene end? Please tell me - am gonna have a tough time sitting through it otherwise!

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    9. GRRRRRRR.....we no want telepathy...let bitwa come back and beat him black and blue!!

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    10. And yep, I also feel VLR is behind the kidnapping ... he is getting entirely too confident ... first he got the will, now he's going after the girl.

      Shit, Bitwa, come back soon!!! We need a macho hero to save ODG! Yehi time mila movie shoot karne ka?!

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    11. SBS written http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2985120

      SBB video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDW84aLP-aY

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    12. Sama,

      bitiya only digs bitwa akhaada look. dont u see how she kept telling him to just get out.

      Dia,
      It ends with VLR telling ODG to not waste time on empty threats and look for the papers. He is leaving no stone unturned to keep her in teh dark that he has the papers. Now where is that goa when she is needed the most.

      See even you are sitting waiting for bitwa. Like Sama said, TV audience who is blissfully unaware of IF, spolier etc. will be all on edge rooting fro bitiya teh abala naari. Ab bitwa aayega toh total "rishte main toh hum tumhaare baap lagte hain..aur naam hain ASR"..ha ha ha

      As for being behind kidnapping - well pata nahi still on the fence there. he knows Arnav is in London. What if it was the evil chacha as you mentioned?

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    13. and was that a blooper?
      sham is one of the traditional SP husbands... wears kurta-pajama to bed.. now he is wearing track pants? (were they ASR's pants ? did abhaas want an akhada look to focus on HIs dhole shole?)

      p.s after the whole fandom requested, they changed khushi's hairstyle.. and because we said we loved her kiss wala suit, now they made that in nine colors??? haila!

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  28. http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2985338

    What :P

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    1. J,

      need to keep fangirldom also happy. 1 wee without barun is max they can live. so give them barun + ILU.

      baaki it is a major hint to khushi ki something is wrong. first he sends sms then says ILU..WT!!! daal main zaroor kuch blackwa hai. investigation kare ka padi!

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    2. Sandy....

      Yes...Investigation kare ja padi...we have such high hopes for their confession....bitwa can't get away with a phone confession....BLACK DAL for sure!!

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    3. Yep, investigation kare ka padi ... this is a major hint to Khushi that something is wrong ...

      And with VLR getting more and more vile and bold by the day, a major dhamaka has to be on the way ... the moment IPL is over would be my guess :)

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    4. LOL sandy/rekha/dia Bond!! binoculars loan le loon kya?

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  30. Luna, Sonu No 2, Tanvee, Cheng, and all others who have started visiting the R&R cafe when I awas not around - welcome people.

    Wow..Dia, maybe you need to think of expanding premises :)

    Btw did we loose Anita and Madsie? Not seeing them around. Oh and Tinku too.

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    1. Madsie is gayab...but anita is there..Madsie pls do come back...

      A small request to all new joinees, please do update the members post....will be nice to read how this IPK has connected us all!!

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    2. Ditto the request from Rekha to all new members ... do update your introductions please!

      Click the tag "IPKKND Members" and you'll find the post more easily.

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