Wednesday 26th September
He will come ... he promised he will come.
Jiji, he will come, won't he? Tell me he'll come.
Khushi's heart break, her confidence slowly ebbing away ... Sanaya made me cry again.
Nani ... a true matriarch ... graceful even in her grief.
Payal ... loving, supportive older sister and loyal daughter.
Akash ... grew a backbone ... loved it! Having his wife kick him in the face seemed to spur him into becoming a man.
NK ... a true friend ... he even managed to shut up his annoying Maasi.
Anjali cried and cried some more ... Shyam wept crocodile tears and told her the wedding is off. Looking forward to seeing the smile wiped off his face for once.
Dadi fortunately made her exit very soon ... hopefully she's spilled all the venom accumulated inside her for fourteen years.
Garima begs Shashi's pardon ... for a mistake she made before marriage ... we still need the full story on that one, but appears that Malik Sr was a cad similar to his son-in-law, and led an unmarried girl up the garden path.
Arnav still trying to fight fate ... the cruel ironies of his life ... the one woman he loves, he can't live without, is the daughter of the woman because of whom he lost his mother.
Sanaya was superlative. No one to beat her in emotional scenes.
Barun was not so good today ... the Feb breakdown was better. Or maybe it was because his role was slightly unsympathetic ... forgetting all about his bride waiting for him at the wedding mandap while he fights his personal demons ... a fourteen year old trapped in a twenty-eight year old's body ...
But today he's not 14, he's a man, and there is a woman who depends on him, who's waiting for him ... a woman he has made promises to ... at the least he owes it to her to go back and face her ...
Grow up, Arnav!
*edited*
Thoughts:
Characters:
Grandmothers - Daadi ... a bitter hatred filled old woman, caught in a morass of old-fashioned beliefs and hypocritical morality ... a woman whose need for revenge on the entire world for the loss of her son, blinds her to the needs of her grandchildren, and shuts her off from the wisdom and maturity that age normally brings. Garima caused her son to stray, her DIL was too weak to stop her son from straying, Arnav blamed his father for straying. She can't punish her DIL because she's dead, but she can punish Garima by ruining her children ... and if collateral damage is her own grandson and his happiness, so be it. Revenge is her only motive.
vs
Naani ... a true matriarch, graceful even in grief, even in the midst of her sorrow over her lost daughter, she finds the compassion to reach out to Garima, she knows that the fault also lay with her son-in-law ... she remembers the grandson who was lost to the world for fourteen long years and has just started living again, just started embracing life and happiness again ... she forgets her own grief in her sorrow and worry for him.
Mothers:
Mami ... a loving surrogate mother- yes. But wisdom and maturity have bypassed her ... easy for her to point fingers instantly and unfairly at both Garima and her daughters ... lashing out to relieve her own sorrow, without caring for the sorrow of others.
vs
Garima ... a mother to two girls not her own ... yet she's willing to take all the punishment for her sins on herself, but begs for those daughters to be spared ... punishment for a sin she never even committed ... judging by her talk, she was as blameless and victim of deceit as Khushi was with Shyam.
Sisters:
Payal ... came into her own today ... a loving supportive brave-hearted daughter and sister, holding strong for her heartbroken sister and mother ... especially her sister, because she's been through the same trauma, she knows the feeling. Loved the little gesture of Payal towards Nani ... Payal has not forgotten her role as bahu even as she fulfills the one of sister and daughter.
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Anjali ... holding strong? She doesn't know the meaning of the word. A sister? not that one either. Only when Shyam exults about the broken wedding and how shattered Arnav would be, does she even recall her brother exists. Till then its all about her own sorrow. Not even a glance to spare for the girl who's going through the same situation that she did so many years ago, the girl she knows brought her Chotey back to life.
He will come ... he promised he will come.
Jiji, he will come, won't he? Tell me he'll come.
Khushi's heart break, her confidence slowly ebbing away ... Sanaya made me cry again.
Nani ... a true matriarch ... graceful even in her grief.
Payal ... loving, supportive older sister and loyal daughter.
Akash ... grew a backbone ... loved it! Having his wife kick him in the face seemed to spur him into becoming a man.
NK ... a true friend ... he even managed to shut up his annoying Maasi.
Anjali cried and cried some more ... Shyam wept crocodile tears and told her the wedding is off. Looking forward to seeing the smile wiped off his face for once.
Dadi fortunately made her exit very soon ... hopefully she's spilled all the venom accumulated inside her for fourteen years.
Garima begs Shashi's pardon ... for a mistake she made before marriage ... we still need the full story on that one, but appears that Malik Sr was a cad similar to his son-in-law, and led an unmarried girl up the garden path.
Arnav still trying to fight fate ... the cruel ironies of his life ... the one woman he loves, he can't live without, is the daughter of the woman because of whom he lost his mother.
Sanaya was superlative. No one to beat her in emotional scenes.
Barun was not so good today ... the Feb breakdown was better. Or maybe it was because his role was slightly unsympathetic ... forgetting all about his bride waiting for him at the wedding mandap while he fights his personal demons ... a fourteen year old trapped in a twenty-eight year old's body ...
But today he's not 14, he's a man, and there is a woman who depends on him, who's waiting for him ... a woman he has made promises to ... at the least he owes it to her to go back and face her ...
Grow up, Arnav!
*edited*
Thoughts:
Characters:
Grandmothers - Daadi ... a bitter hatred filled old woman, caught in a morass of old-fashioned beliefs and hypocritical morality ... a woman whose need for revenge on the entire world for the loss of her son, blinds her to the needs of her grandchildren, and shuts her off from the wisdom and maturity that age normally brings. Garima caused her son to stray, her DIL was too weak to stop her son from straying, Arnav blamed his father for straying. She can't punish her DIL because she's dead, but she can punish Garima by ruining her children ... and if collateral damage is her own grandson and his happiness, so be it. Revenge is her only motive.
vs
Naani ... a true matriarch, graceful even in grief, even in the midst of her sorrow over her lost daughter, she finds the compassion to reach out to Garima, she knows that the fault also lay with her son-in-law ... she remembers the grandson who was lost to the world for fourteen long years and has just started living again, just started embracing life and happiness again ... she forgets her own grief in her sorrow and worry for him.
Mothers:
Mami ... a loving surrogate mother- yes. But wisdom and maturity have bypassed her ... easy for her to point fingers instantly and unfairly at both Garima and her daughters ... lashing out to relieve her own sorrow, without caring for the sorrow of others.
vs
Garima ... a mother to two girls not her own ... yet she's willing to take all the punishment for her sins on herself, but begs for those daughters to be spared ... punishment for a sin she never even committed ... judging by her talk, she was as blameless and victim of deceit as Khushi was with Shyam.
Sisters:
Payal ... came into her own today ... a loving supportive brave-hearted daughter and sister, holding strong for her heartbroken sister and mother ... especially her sister, because she's been through the same trauma, she knows the feeling. Loved the little gesture of Payal towards Nani ... Payal has not forgotten her role as bahu even as she fulfills the one of sister and daughter.
vs
Anjali ... holding strong? She doesn't know the meaning of the word. A sister? not that one either. Only when Shyam exults about the broken wedding and how shattered Arnav would be, does she even recall her brother exists. Till then its all about her own sorrow. Not even a glance to spare for the girl who's going through the same situation that she did so many years ago, the girl she knows brought her Chotey back to life.
The Support System:
NK ... what a friend! 
Any girl would be proud to have a friend like him ... Maturity bypassed
his aunt and came directly to him ... he earned total respect for
shutting up Maami politely and firmly today.
Any girl would be proud to have a friend like him ... Maturity bypassed
his aunt and came directly to him ... he earned total respect for
shutting up Maami politely and firmly today.
Akash ... seems like the Raizada men only appreciate their women when they're scared of losing them! 
Loved his staying back with Payal, helping to sambhalo Khushi and Nani ...
Loved his staying back with Payal, helping to sambhalo Khushi and Nani ...
The Leads ... Hero/heroine ... which is which?
Arnav ...
I felt bad for him. An emotionally scarred boy ... his emotional
development has stopped at age fourteen ... he saw his mother betrayed
by his father, he saw his sister betrayed by her fiance, he could not
protect one, he vowed to protect the other ... not having the maturity
at that age to understand that his promise was unrealistic and
impossible. He's realised that with Anjali now ... some growth over the
last six months, thanks to Khushi and her loving support. But will he
finally be able to break free of the emotional baggage surrounding his
mother's death, and learn that there are some things which are written
by destiny, and not within anyone's hold? His parents' marriage broke,
his parents gone ... not because it was any person's fault ...
probably not even his dad's alone ... but a play of circumstances ... a
game of fate. An man who needs the support, wisdom and guidance of his
soulmate to find his way out of the darkness of his past, needs her
courage and strength to put it behind him and face the future.
Barun
... did not impress much in the initial breakdown ... the flashbacks
and the expressions were out of synch. I wonder if he knew what he was
emoting to ... it was a bit OTT, considering that the shock was only the discovery of the other woman's identity. He knew the other details already. The flashbacks were all about Khushi ... so did that mean that he took so much time coming to a decision about what to do? Forgetting that she was waiting at the mandap?
Or maybe it was because the role he played was slightly
unsympathetic ... forgetting all about his bride waiting for him at the
wedding mandap
while he fights his personal demons ... a fourteen year old boy trapped
in a
twenty-eight year old's body ...
But today he's not 14, he's a man, and there is a woman who depends on
him, who's waiting for him ... a woman he has made promises to ... at
the least he owes it to her to go back and face her ... 
The
last part when he breaks down and cries ... that was good ... it made me
feel that this is the first time he has allowed himself to break down
and cry like a child at his mother's death. He needed that catharsis to
move on.
Khushi
... I don't know what Gul intended for ASR ... but for me, Khushi is
the true HERO of the story. Over the last two episodes this has shone
through. The strongest character in the show (despite the butchering)
... she holds strong for her mother, boldly yet politely faces the
Dragon Daadi ... she's strong enough to fight for her marriage, stop
Daadi from extinguishing the sacred marriage agni ... she has been
through hell and back for Arnav, she has stood with him against everyone and everything ... she has had the courage to stand against him when she feels he's wrong ...
She
kept silent during the first forced marriage even when she didn't know
why he did what he did, but she trusted that he had good reason ... she
broke ties with her own family to stand by his side ... and this was
when she didn't even love him. And now the love has grown, flowered and
bloomed, acknowledged by both ... she has for the first time placed her
trust in someone other than Devi Maiyya, she promised him she will never
leave him, she asked a promise in return ... not to betray her trust in
his love ...
She kept her word. Will he?
Sanaya
... Fabulous, stunning, stellar, brilliant, amazing, heartbreaking ...
I'm running out of words to describe her performance today. She went
through the entire range of emotions ... from defiance, anger,
determination ... confidence in her love ... her firm intention to wait
for him ... then that firmness, that confidence ebbing as she remembered
his teasing words ... if i let you go once, I won't catch you again ... the instant panic, almost hysteria ... no, he was joking, he didn't mean it ... looking like a child for reassurance to her sister, he didn't mean it, he will come won't he? ...
the change in body language as she sits at the mandap alone ... waiting
... hoping ... and slowly hope fading into despair ... and anguished
heartbreak ...
I didn't even realise I had tears running down my cheeks as I watched her ...
Sanaya ... take a bow!!! Take several!!!
So did any of the SKD moments happen? My guess is it will take all week, we are in for a IPKNarnia day
ReplyDeleteLol moment: When Dadi bhagao the guests.
ReplyDeleteArnav needs the time to regroup, he was dealt a major blow, fair enough.
Loved eveyrone's reactions.....
Akash bitwa came through for me. He did not leave Payal's side.
Yes what NK told Mami, he should have been the guy to say it but whatever, I am happy that he now is the defacto elder son, took care of Khushi and his Dadi.
Rest, Nani is still neutral, Mami is furious..her concern more for Arnav now. From mami's side this is not the first time Guptas have hidden something, so is it right or not, she is right from her pov.
Shyamva actually got the best sherwani, THATTTTTTTTTT WAS Arnav Singh Raizada's wedding sherwani*headdesk*
And Barun quitting rumor has started again.
I officially hate MAMR, bas bol diya. Not worth the trouble for me.
Barun I will be rooting for you when you sign a KJ or Akhtar movie, this movie just irritates me now and the ridiculous PR...I am sure it was planted by MAMR people just so they could get the movie back in news again, grrrrrrr...
And I know he would want some time off for promotion, but ....Chodo.
Akash bitwa came through for me, the cast was superb today.
The scream did not work for me, it did the first time big time.
He cried....brilliantly...but personally I thought they stretched that scene. BS you were damn good, just I feel the behind the team let you down a bit.
SI you rocked today, IPK Team....good job..not as great as yesterday but good.
Kya promotion ke liye off....Bade stars bhi 4-6 man days hi dete hain....aur MAMR ki kya promotion karenge...ek shoot karo aur use apne website pe daal do...jisko dekhna hain dekhenge.....
DeleteShwethu, aaj sabko hamara bitwa ka real worth samajh mein ayega......no talk but doing the real walk.....a man after my own heart.....
DeleteRekha, that's when he does the walk ... abhi toh he's sitting in his mum's garden and crying at his fate ... ahh, the irony, a man who claimed he made his own destiny, was just kicked in the teeth by Fate.
DeleteDude, you've got a woman waiting for you at the mandap while you take your own sweet time fighting your demons ... she held up for her mother, she held up because she had faith in you ... if you spend so much time crying and she leaves you, then ... oh boy, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Has Bitwa learned NOTHING in six months? His Dadi's one point agenda was to break his marriage ... she feeds him a story, same as Shyam did ... he takes it instantly at face value and goes straight into peetal bartan again!!! *head desk*!!!!
Hey i meant Akash here Dia....shwethu and I praise only bitwa in this fashion....Arnav is always second best....hehehe
Deleteyeah akash bitwa came through today.. and i was so happy for you girls! (and for payal.. she is lucky that he is taking steps to sambhalo the terrible situation.
DeleteI loved Akshay in that Thakur of sholay fame getup in that pic geetu posted....quite a roar this bunch is.....has the set in splits all the time....
DeleteAh, ok ... yes, Akash came through ... I am annoyed at Arnav's excessive self-indulgence today! When he hurts my girl, he loses my sympathy!
Deletewhat was with akash's kurta? it had embroidery fabric only on the front.. the back was plain fabric! was really funny to see that.kanjoos PH? or is there a style like that?
Deleteyesterday the director remembered.. today he brought water and i was like wha?
Jaya, that's a common style ... even for ladies salwar kameez, often the intricate embroidery is only in the front, and only simple motifs or plain on the back.
Deletedia, i know the front/back thing.. but two pieces of different fabric on the sleeve!
DeleteDia, the self-indulgence thoda misguided ho gaya....he looked like a vampire ready to draw blood what with that lighting effect....as if suddenly he will sprout fangs..the second time i saw it, it looked very comical....his cry even tho baby like, was fine according to me becos he was that only, a 14 year old....so i did not mind that....in fact that made it ok...becos i can atleast say, chalo ho gaya rona, ab asoon poncho aur mandap pahuncho....
DeleteThe scream and breaking furniture did not work for me.
DeleteEverytime I see something breaking in this show, I mentally thank all the unknown carpenters who made my home furniture.
*says this very solemnly*
hahaha - so agree - so thank your carpenter - apparently even the rich ASR cant afford good wood!!!
DeleteMonu, actually there is very little the rich ASR can afford....zindagi ki sabse badi deal ke baad kuch paisa nahin banaya..it figures in the RM ki halaat these days....
Deletekya chopper se chappal pe aa gaya....
"kya chopper se chappal pe aa gaya...." ROTFL ROTFL
DeleteShwethu, thank your carpenters *rofl*
DeleteRekha, chopper se chappal ... you girls are on a roll! :D
Yep, his breakdown scene didn't work too well for me ... the last bit when he breaks down and cries like a child, there I felt for him ... he was all of fourteen years old at that point, finally given the time and space to mourn his mother.
Umm, now can he please grow up?
No SKDs..Doesn't appear so from LUs.....Arnav's brain is frozen still, will take time to process data that he has a bride waiting at the altar.....he will come for sure.....suna bahut tod phod kiya....
ReplyDeletei am sticking my neck out here(meri neck ki laaj rakho, DM) itna tension toh apne khud ke labh story pe bhi nahin liya...
The raizadas will get a huge discount for therapy sessions, now's the time to go attack that clinic...ek par ek free....
rekha, whats your ID on IF? can you buddy me, i'm guturgutur :D
DeleteJaya wanted to buddy you on IF like you said but how do you do that? am a certified IF moron!
Deletemy id is sanfan
Deletearen't we buddies already? ok let me check...
mona, i am also an IF moron but better than u i guess....
J, u are on my friend list
Deletemona, whats ur id?
'HHBB' - hello hi bye bye:)
Deleteheart wrenching.....
ReplyDeleteKhushi is on the verge of loosing it......just one chant, that he will come.....
Sanaya, hats off...
feeling so low, after the episode, dont even feel like cooking....
He has to come.....whether he marries her or not.....or asks her to break off ties with Garima....but he atleast has to come.......
I cried for Khushi......when she told Payal that he once said that if he leaves her hand he wont hold it again, but he was just joking ....OMG, gut wrenching........
Payal was there as always, supporting her
Barun's portrayal was also good.....felt bad for ASR...Barun, please dont quit now.....u cant do this to ur fans... tellychakkar posted an article saying that he has put in his papers.....hopes it just a publicity stunt...btw, the producer denied it....lets hope what the PH says is the truth
Geetu, i am so chicken hearted that i am not watching the episode....can't bear this tension yaar....just read the LUs...i can't bear to see San cry....becos she will make me cry...always does....
DeleteShe was too good Rekha
DeleteShe made me cry. Be warned, Rekha.
Deletenews from star plus source regarding Barun quitting
ReplyDeletehttp://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3213661
waise, why wud he quit now....the movie promotion is starting after november....star plus is sending him to UK for IPK promotion....so the quitting new doesn't make sense
something to lift the mood....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3213719
Sanaya and Barun both are there, does that mean he reaches b4 its too late
thanks geetu.. that was definitely the need of the hour!
Deletewelcome Jaya *hugs*
DeleteI loved the boy in a shawl spin.....thanks Geetu...but aaj dono bacche ne khub rula diya...my eyes are puffed and my kiddo is laughing...(wicked girl i tell u!!)
DeleteRekha, Jaya : lets do a group jhappi, we all need it today...atleast for Khushi
Deleteaww ((hugs))
Deletehugsssssss
Deletehonestly, i thought the episode was boring. they stretched the senti scenes and closeups till i was chanting "get a move on... we know they're sad"
ReplyDeletesanaya was brilliant.
i personally feel that barun overacted.. a lot.
there were not much dialogues today..
one.. "this must be hard for chotte! where is he?"
two "jeeji please tell me that he will come"
everything else was dressing.
for me, today was a lesson in how to stretch 10 minutes into 22 minutes. I, personally, have no patience for slow motion drama. and yes, you will cry watching sanaya cry.
J,
DeleteActually the background and clothes spoilt the scene but i thot the cry was more natural than the anger...
but i agree i hate to watch drama like this yaar, if not for Sarun, i would have run away from IPK long ago....
Also J, Pyumori Mehta stood out in today's episode...her every expression conveyed remorse.. so beautifully....her affection and gratitude when Shashi puts a hand to convey he believes her...her utter helplessness that her actions of the past is causing turmoil in her children's lives....i thot was done very well altho i can't bear drama of this kind...
DeleteBut over all, they did not stretch the drama itself..altho the masala was worth only 10 mins...
R & J : i laugh at all the other serial's drama, though there are intense scenes going on....me feel like laughing cause mostly its illogical and acting is average also the character are not as touchin as Arnav and Khushi....
DeleteJ,
DeleteI thought Barun was not so good today ... not as good as the Feb breakdown. Plus the CU twice showed the same scene ... overkill! When he started breaking the benches, I went ... man, get a grip, and grow up!!!
Sanaya was much better than him today ... she was fabulous. The last bit when Khushi asks Payal ... he will come, won't he? ... made me cry.
Now I will not blame her in the least if she walks off and goes missing. I want Arnav to suffer ... he's taken her for granted. He has to almost lose her to realise her worth, and to realise that the past, painful though it is, has to be buried if they are to have any chance of a future.
Dia, thats how Arnav is naa....he realizes only when he is on the verge of loosing her....but atleast he does, der aaye durust aaye, hai naa
Deletethey could have avoided that bench scene...it was total OTT and esp in the clothes and slippers that he wore, it looked comical, given BS is very lean...but khair, he made up in that cry scene...ok he looked like a 14 year old...but thats his emo age, in any case....
Deletei guess u guys may not agree with me but i have more sympathy for Arnav today than on the terrace day....he was a lover than and he acted purely on a lover's urge at the forefront, today he is both a committed lover and a heartboken son...tuf....really... yes he may have come a long way from that time but its that part that he has never really confronted before with any honesty...
Having said that, i will still want to know what he will do with this nocturnal venting out of steam...and breaking benches...its no use to come to the mandap if u have not taken a stand....
yeah.. so they clarified that he indeed was in his mother's garden.. with three sets of lighting special effects around him, in a shiny peetal suit.. and gladiator shoes..
Deleteand the first hint of tears that dont fall is the magical pill for sobti.. the tears actually falling down and his extra drama, i think, actually cured me of the sobti fancy. (but i reserve the right to change my opinion tomorrow :D)
what do u think, he cried for that reason only, he wants the sexy tag off him.....he just wants to be a mama's boy.....poor fella...tired of being called the god's gift to womankind....phew!!
Deletebut what use.. all the IF fangirls are like awww he is suchh a greatt actorrr!!!!
Deletei think barun had to shoot the scenes yesterday(or day before) night after he came back from delhi.. so maybe no time for retakes etc..and truly, coming back from holiday and acting such an intense scene.. needs time to get into character, right?
sanaya was luckier.. looks like scenes were taken continuously in the hall.. more time for retakes et al..
I think while LM shot the marriage scenes, AK shot the scenes with Barun and Dadi and him breaking down.
DeleteAlso, the cry worked for me, though I felt they stretched it a bit.
Girls,
DeleteBarun's scene worked in portions. There was a scene or two I felt it was not quite there and then I wondered if teh difference was the last time it was the death and rise of ASR whereas today it was the breaking down of Arnav, a man of 28 and finally a boy of 14, a boy who never had a chance to grieve all those years ago.
Wondering; with teh agni going off in the havan kund, does it mean Khushi will not have to give another agni pariksha though she would be willing to?
btw, do u guys watch Grey's Anatomy.... was just watching it yesterday...and something similar going on there....
ReplyDeletethe female lead telling the male lead to choose her and if he does then meet her at the pub....and she waiting n drinking n waiting n drinking :P and after waiting like forever, she's forced to leave as a train wreck happens (she is a doctor by profession) and he reaches just after she leaves :P
geetu, yes, that was season1 of GA and i adore that set of episodes.. later seasons did not impress me much.
Deletebut then, mcdreamy did choose his wife over his girlfriend.. so there was no chance that he was coming.. and so i guess meredith gets the short end of the stick because she was the intern who got dumped by the attending.. (they have to work together further, right) erm i just told you today's plot :D
hehehe...m watching it atm...but yesterday he did reach, and the bartender told him he was late..:P
Deleteoh yea, he chose his wife :(
Deletehappy for his wife though
Deletedont be... its complicated :D
DeleteVery!
Deletehuummm - so the wolf cry was added for the fangirls who have been wanting one from ASr for quite a while now (Sama - you got your cry?!) - me, i never wanted it - and still don't
ReplyDeleteODB really did not act well today and the horrid clothes and useless shivering and breaking of furniture did not help
Sanaya today showed she is a better actor by many leaps and lengths!! - well done - all scenes - her confidence, her fear, her anger - very well done indeed
Nani i loved - for 2 reasons
1- ofcourse she will forgive G - when she holds no grudge with dadi whose son in a way killed her daughter - she wont hold a grudge against G - having said that - don't know if that is
possible in real life
2 - her only thought was for her Grandson - her living breathing finally happy son not the daughter who was no more - but the son who was the 'nishani' of her child
Garima Babjui Buaji scene - did not understand - did she tell them (read shashi) the truth for the first time - then what was the last scene between the two about? last time when she had said similar stuff and said i had not wanted to lie - so he did not know???
finally all those who wanted LM and time given to each emotion and closeup - yah lo ab bhokto! - i get it that they want to show the desperation so that ASR's return or KKG's leaving is that dramatic but that meant a slower epi!
glad Akash and NK were around to support the family - but Akash should have intervened (between payal & KKG) and said - 'bhai will come' - come on show some solidarity - stand by him like he stood by you! - but i guess CVs have shown him stand by his wife and un kay liyan yahi bahut hai!!
Shwetha - agree - lol moment - dadi asking all to leave!!
my LOL moment.. NK bringing medicines out of thin air for nani.. the CT cannot leave the tablets well enough alone! yaar they came for a wedding.. who brought medicines? and even if nani did bring her meds in her purse, who prompted NK about nani's meds? HP bhi aaya tha kya?
Deletewaise loved NK today.
Yaar it is like Ron from HP.
DeleteThe best lines of Ron in the book were given to harry or hermoine in the movie making him look like a sidekick..pathetic one.
That should have been Akash shutting up his mom, and yes he should have told Khushi, hang in there or something. But he did get water for khushi.
Shwethu,
Deletei love the fight u put for the underdog....paavam...he has never been able to shut that motormouth of a mother...aaj karta toh,out of character hota....hehehe..see how particular the Cvs are in maintaining our chota bitwa's character brief.
Shwethu,
DeleteI have hope for Akash in the upcoming phase. He did tell Khushi he will not listen to Arnav bhaiyya. And plus he had his saansein ruk jaayengi moment with Payal saying I have no rishta with this family too. So thoda toh he will also wake up!
Jokes apart, AD is a good actor and used well he would do wonders.
ok guys....me off to sleep
ReplyDeletegood night :)
for those interested - Castle is back!!! season 5 :D:D:D:D:D
ReplyDelete..and it was a good episode! (castle i mean) :D:D
DeleteIS IT WOW!!
Delete"Yes I am cluthcing at straws..." Aawww!!
DeleteGirls,
ReplyDeleteEpisode was good - the high point for me was Payal taking the stance then the family does not have a place for me - you go girl...stand for what is right!!
San was fantastic as usual..actually all the Guptas ruled :)Akash and NK were ok- hated seeing shyam and anji..Nani was good, Mami too I did not have an issue..from her POV she is fine
Dia,
With you totally on Arnav. But Arnav se maine kuch aur expect bhi nahi kiya tha - so I am not disappointed - every time he remembers something about Khushi and does not make the decision to walk to her is a demerit on his scoreboard- but I already ranted about it yesterday - his howl did nothing for me after all his flashbacks centred on Khushi - atleast if it was after his mom's fbs it may have made sense..but now it came across as self-pity ..
What is he howling about ? Is it because he has decided he has lost Khushi ? The expressions were totally off - Barun and CVs did not pull it together at all..
Mona/Rekha,
Open to listening to your POV on that cos I am hardly unbiased on the topic..:)
Sri - oh ODB did not act well today and the scream was only for the fangirls who had been asking for it for ever - so i agree - it was unnecessary and not well done
DeleteAs for his going away - like i said earlier - the bane of a daily soap - they had to make it dramatic to a point where the chewing gum looses its flavour! - he will come of course - the point is when - If he does not come - then i am with you guys - he is not worth it - but till that is shown am giving him time to get over this - and turn up on time (and get royally scolded by ODG!)
Personally had i been making the epi - i would not have shown ASR at all today - he would have been all missing - to a point where you feel he will never some back but he would - at the right moment and all this angst would be in FBs - of course that did not happen and teh CVs took a chance by showing both people being in pain - but coz the screen play was not done well (and barun could not pull it off) - it came out as 'Grow UP! ASR' rather than 'poor boy ASR!'
so am joining Rekha in sticking my neck out and saying - all the SKDs by Shwetha and HAA should happen - that is what is keeping me glued (a bechari KKG or a cruel ASR i do not want!)
Sri,
DeleteThe jury is still out on the matter... (mandap reaching ke baad hi natije pe pahunchenge)
Arnav is expected to disappoint because even tho he has learnt a lesson on love, he has yet to cover ground on letting go...all i am saying is i am ready to give him time to assimilate this new reality but am expecting the reality of his love for K to overpower the 14 year old shackled by the past. Anything lesser is a joke on the time we have spent on this love tale.....
my sympathies for Arnav is purely for the situation he is in, on the threshold of a new life that he just begun to appreciate even when he has not exactly let go of the demons of the past.its a shocker for him.
The hospital scene, when his hatred for his past was very evident...gave a glimpse of how this man still holds a grudge.....well, they could have lived with it forever if Khushi wasn't garima's daughter, but that was not to be....But the important thing is, u can't live forever in the past....
Today, even Khushi is in a bubble....she has not reacted to anything other than their promise of love and ....the girl that she has always been shown to be will also react to Arnav's pain...if not today, then tomorrow...she will. I am not saying that she has to feel guilty but can she be matter-of-fact about it...perhaps not..she will look to heal his pain...
at the end of it, i would say, the raizadas had missed trauma sessions 14 years ago, they were direly in need of it....sadly Khushi chose this fish among all the fish in the ocean....ab bhugtho....
My daughter is seeing the epi right now and hearing the wolfcry, her comment is "comeon, a 25 year old (she thinks thats ASR's age) should be able to cope with this without losing it"....chalo real life is more balanced...much needed AD....
Having said the sympathy speech for Arnav, let me say i don't want to make a virtue out of a necessity...arnav is not a hero for me today for that behaviour just human...
Deletesomewhere i think, he never cried when his mother died....he has bottled that grief and he let it out today...thats my explanation for his tears....just reminded me of an old Alfred tennyson poem, home they brought her warrior dead...
Rekhs, ditto...He is at his mother's shrine, I think he is finally started to let go of her.
DeleteKhushi already has moved up the order with respect to Anjali, now it is his mom's turn and for closure.
His mom and di will always be very important, but there for the past 14-15 years he has been living for them in a way, now is the time for him to move on start living his life and look ahead for the future.
People are not born heroes, rather they become heroes when they handle a difficult sitauion in an extraordinary manner.
DeletePeter Prkins and Clark Kent were not heroes, Spoderman and Superman were.
ASR is no hero he is just human, but Khushi's Arnavji will be a hero simply because she has that belief in him like others did in Spiderman and Superman.
Rekha,
DeleteI just saw your jury is out walal comment above!..OMG tu sach mein SOMH hai re..I wrote jury is out to Lin below..
Sandy,
DeleteAwwwww *hugs*.....
I think it's a process for Arnav ... he was fixated on Di and her happiness till now, he's grown out of that to quite an extent ... witness the last Anjali tantrum about fasting till death or Shyamuu ... he resisted her, but caved when Khushi gave in to the tantrums. Earlier, let Di refuse one meal and he would personally carry the plate and feed her with his own hands. Also, Khushi forcing him to face Di when she had her miscarriage, when he would have preferred to run away ... that made him face up to one set of demons ... that he had failed his sister. Khushi made him see it wasn't so. So the bhoot of 'Di ki khushi ke liye' is laid to rest - well, mostly.
DeleteNow the next fixation - Mamma. His flashbacks involve his mother running and the shot, and Anjali dressed as a bride.
Anjali's first broken marriage was a defining moment for the 14 year old Arnav.
His mother's death is the other defining moment.
And this unveiling of the past is for him to let go of the painful memories, the hurt of being abandoned by his mother, and by his father too ... the feeling that a helpless 14 year old had, that he could do nothing to save his mother, while he did (presumably) make his anger felt to his father for his infidelity. And make peace with the loss, which he hasn't done so far. The Garima track will lead to that.
But till such time he does, poor Khushi will bear the brunt as always ... she has to literally mother this boy till he grows into a man.
Rekha/Mona,
ReplyDeleteI think Khushi's FB of haath chod diya to phir nahin thamunga - was telling...she wants to believe he will come but doubt does keep rearing its head in her mind. And she is thinking what will I do if he does not - so already his non-appearance has eroded that confidence.She says it is a test of our love - if he does not turn up - she is going to conclude it was not strong enough... she may start "understanding" later byut not in this moment...
Let's hope bitwa's mom drops a fruit or something from her tree on his head and knocks some sense into him :)
Let's hope bitwa's mom drops a fruit or something from her tree on his head and knocks some sense into him :)
Delete*ROFL ROFL ROFL*
Gyaan ka fruit, bhaag beta bhaag, muhurat ka samay nikal jaayega and you will have to wait till NK gets married.
*rofl rofl rofl* Sri and Shwethu..girls u rock....
Deletearre baba that woman Ratna had given the wrong advice to this baccha then she said sabr karo chotte....bitwa time warp mein hain.....sabr ke meete phal ke intezaar main baitha hain....
Itna sabr bhi nahin kaha tha!!!
DeleteWhat an emotional episode. It has really made me sad tonight, I sooo feel for them both, but for some reason my heart goes out more for Khushi.
ReplyDeleteShe sits waiting the hope and trust that she has slowly ebbing away from her, like the shifting sands with the tide on a lonely beach. The doubts are starting to flood her mind, but she still wants to desperately believe and needs her sister to give her the confidence and courage to carry on believing that the,love of her life will come. But will he. I know he needs time to process what has happened but Khushi is slowly fading, and if he is not quick enough she will be gone. I really dislike Dadi with a passion. What kind of a person wants to cause so much heartbreak to her grandchildren. I hope she is never forgiven for what she has done.
Both BS & SI really are first class actors, and not forgetting all the other cast members, absolutely brilliant , even though it made me sad.
Lin
Lin, it was huge what they dealt him, he will come through eventually.
DeleteLin,
Deletelike they say, if teh ury stays out for a long time, it is at times a good thing because it means there is debate, discussion and chances of a near right decision, one not taken in haste or swayed by emotions.
So yes agree with Shweths he will come around eventually.
And can I again say thank u to the creators for granting my long ago wish of Nani being the ArHi chamption. She has always been Khushi's mentor, now can she please be Arnav's too.
New promo
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SKD:
ReplyDeleteHe will come for Khushi.
She will see him, GH confrontation, what took you so bloody long, telling him she did not lose faith in him ever in not so many words.
Bitwa will then snap out of it.
He will ask Garima, she will say she was duped and she explained it all to Dadi in the past and even now.
Is Dadi around I think so, she will say she will lie.
Hopefully one of the family member will speak up about the timing of the whole thing or BITWA will go, wait a minute, you told Dadi this, when.
She will say on Sangeet day, he will instantly connect that Dadi deliberately put the kangans on Khushi and waited till the last moment.
Dadi lied to him.
He will ask Garima one more time, Are you telling me the truth, You really did not know about my dad being married?
Garima will say, no she did not, if she did, she never would have done such a thing.
He will tell her he believes her, it will take him some to reconcile this but for now he believes her.
Dadi will ask him, how can you believe her?
Arnav will say cos I knew my dad and knowing that Shyam is planning something with Dadi, will say coolly, this would not be the first time Someone lied about their marital status and tried to get married again looking at Shyam.
And if Dadi says something bad about Khushi then, Bye bye dadi.
This marriage will happen.
kuch zyada ho gaya kya?
Wah wah Shwetha, if ur and Sandy's SKDs don't come true, am dumping the ASR on screen and falling for the one u and Sandy created
Delete;D
Ladies, tip for the day : follow Shetha's and Sandy's SKD for a good start to office!
Monu :)
DeleteHuggs rey - and oh thot of u yday as I had a brownie from Theobroma!
If Arnav does nto come back for Khushi then I dont know uska kya hoga. But like Dumbledore knew with teh Deluminator, I think it is not that he leaves her but that he always returns to her which I will hold onto.
so much for my diet!!! me wants Browniessss!!!
Deleteok yahan kahan brownies - :( - will have to settle for something else - but meetha i now want :D
Shweths, yeh SKD kuch zyaada hopeful nahin hai??!! *rofl*
DeleteI want Dadi's lies to be exposed, the fact that she deliberately set this up in order to cause the maximum possible public humiliation to Khushi and Garima as possible, without giving a damn for the pain of her own boy ... I want Arnav to KNOW that before he throws her out!
And when he finds out Garima's story ... which will be some time ... I want him to say that in front of Shyam and Anjali ... that he believes Garima because he's seen the same deceit from someone else. Anjali ki batti jale naa jale, let Shyamuu know that ASR does indeed have a dimaag, shatir or otherwise!
But yeh sab itni jaldi nahin hoga. :(
start ur day with a big smile.......
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scroll down....also read the first part if u have time....its hilarious
Girls,
ReplyDeletei am looking at this very realistically.....its not about him coming to the mandap thats actually the point, tho everyone is fretting about it...its what happens when he comes....he will do the pheras, even thats a given but if all is ok, the story is over...except for the shyamwa blast......
thats why i am saying brace up for the real show after this......there is going to be emotional distance between the couple....apart that factor in the family ractions(i can't decide which way they will go) and the closure for Arnav will come only when he realises that his present is threatening to become bigger in grief than his past....its as much a case of self-preservation as a need to let go, see people for what they really are....i mean G here.....his understanding of G will also be central and its only when he calls her Amma, unbidden that there will be a true reconciliation of sorts...
A part of the SKD that Shweths said might also happen but it will happen in the brusque ASR way...
sorry i said this above when i know u girls are also saying that there will be problems ahead.....mera kehna hain...bas don't grudge him this time out.....simply becos it would have been out of character for him to just come by.....and believe me, this wait will do something to Khushi that can be only be good for this relationship going forward..(no, its not a sadist speaking)...
Deleteanother thing, the first of the dhamaka is Arnav not taking Khushi to the garden.....the first of the emotional distancing for Khuhsi will occur from thereon...idk if she will mention it but if she does
Rekha,
DeleteThe gut feel just got stronger about mental lockdown at Khushi's end. Today I saw a family rally for Arnav's sake. And another for Khushi's sake.
In the morning, she was yelling at the sweet maker to not forget. She told Arnav she will not fall into his web again and will slip away from him before he could blink. It is all an indication of how time / destiny will again play a role in this story. Time will make her slip away from him and also make her fall into his web of love again. Beyond fear there is victory - the last baggage both carry - of losing a loved one and trust based on the depth of their love.
The last time all their lives scattered, there was a woman at the centre who was most affected who went away, who was lost. She could never be brought back because she died. This time again in the eye of the storm is going to be another woman who will "be lost" but the husband and the families will have a choice to bring her back. She who has always put them all before her, given them all happiness it is now their turn to put her before themselves, rally around for her and build her happiness again and in the process find their own. The death of Ratna Mallik scattered a family, the restoration of the spirit of Khushi Arnav Singh Raizada will be their chance to build it all over again.
Ever since the day she ran into him Khushi's life has been a story of pain and tears. She never voices it but somewhere when she was getting married to her raajkumaar her heart would have wanted to think of a time when all was well - to the day she was on a scooter and her jiji was to get married.
The last time she wanted to leave the house, she told Arnav to consider that they had never met and she was not leaving him in anger but she could not take or give anymore pain. And if Khushi retreats into that shell, then Arnav will need all the patience he has to gradually restore that spirit which he would have killed (death of a person's essence is worse than thir actual death - kabhi achcha lage marna, kabhi mushkil lage jeena) (main chaand nigal gayi dayya re, she is indeed the chaand who will eclipse the harsh intense blazing sun ASR. He who has always blazed will need to temper himself, balance himself and keep the hope alive and one day the clipse will pass - I had mentioned thinking of eclipse on haldi with the goggles and all).
Khushi retreats to her sapnon ki duniya where no hearts break and Arnav Singh Raizada finally needs to decide if he will let history repeat itself or indeed forge his own destiny and future and that of his wife.
Khushi may have fainted and when she wakes up the next storm will hit. Guess Khushi will be told Payal's wedding happened to Akash and they will convince her to stay with Payal or rather Buaji while her parents return to Lucknow for treatment.
Pheras well, I get this feeling it will be a nearly unconscious Khushi in ASR's arms taking the vows around the fire. And if it happens I would look at it as him carrying her while she goes through the darkest hour of her life (the footprints verses, when God says that if you see only 1 set of footprints it is because I carried you in my arms then).
The butterfly delved the depths of the ocean to remind him that in his depths not only darkness but pearls too reside.
It is now time for the ocean to "burn" itself into vapour rising towards the sky and form the rainbow that will gradually restore the colours in the life of the butterfly.
P.S: After the last major loss, she always wears her amma's bangles because she fells close to her, will that diamond bracelet be the shadow of the rcently lost past that will make Khushi feel close to someone out there?
Rekha,
Deletewith you tehre. I know it seems unfair that while she waits he is emotionally crumbling somewhere.
But on the eve of you finding everlasting happiness, you come to know your biggest culprit (he knows not Dadi si lying, of how innocent Garima is etc.) Just like that night when he realized his Di's world would shatter. You are blindsided and overwhelmed. Then it was easier because his emotions were not so totally involved so he managed to find an easy out but today he is too far involved. His natural instict would be to punish but who will he end up punishing - that girl who said she trusts him?
Until the anger flows out, there is no way for him to rationalize and figure out what he indeed needs. He is still going to ome back to that mandap having killed every ounce of his being ready to break that wedding only to be confronted with a girl who will resolutely be sitting there saying he will come! Her trust and tears will be the one that will make him overcome his anger and he will marry her.
As Gargs would say it always really really sucks to be Arnav!
sorry that was amma's payalas above
DeleteAnd yeah Sanaya was brilliant today! My heart went out to Khushi.
Sandy,
DeleteSomh, with u all the way....u have beautifully put in words my unexpressed thots.....as always....
if it was a real life problem (problems in life are of a diff kind thank heavens for that and for our communication channels that are usually not so clogged, we could have rationalised any which way.....
but this is drama, this a love tale...and has the makings of a an epic one(ignoring the butchering from time to time)....so sense can be drummed in only when u recognise that its not only u who have suffered, there are others who have suffered...its just that their suffering and ways of handling that are different from urs.......I know everyone is rooting for a spirited Khushi making a fightback.....but much as that is SKD, dramatically only the other scenario will work....loha lohe ko kattha hain...kinda...
else it would have to be a series of instances that proves to Arnav that his perception of grief is warped....its going to be diffi for the makers to convert that to screen narrative.....
Rekha,
DeleteIf Khsuhi goes back to the Khushi of Lucknow she will teh feisty one who initially Arnav fell in love with. He will be reminded again fo just why he fell in love with her in the first place. But this time with the ammo of her reasoning and his memories.
She will be the one who will give him back "hum aapki wajah se nahi balki aapke bawajood bhi theek hain". He will get a chance to make her fall into his arms but not be rescued by VLR again. The beuty of a rewind button, the beauty of life giving you a second chance to do it all the right way.
She will be the scooter driving, wide eyed sanka devi who makes jalebis in her stress, chatters non stop and is totally jhalli. That Khushi was lost, buried under the weight of emotions so thoda toh uska return banta hai.
Kisikee muskurahathon pe ho nisaaar
Kisi ka dard mil sakhe to le udhaar
Kisee ke vaaste ho tere dil main pyaar
Jeena isi ka naam hai
Mitte jo pyaar ke liye woh zindagi
Chale bahaar ke liye woh zindagi
Kisi ko ho na ho hamein to aitbaar
Jeena isi ka naam hai
Rishta dil se dil ke aitbaar ka
Zinda hai humee se naam pyaar ka
Ki marke bhi kisi ko yaad ayenge
Kisi ke aansuo mein muskuraanyenge
Kahega phool har kali se baar baar
Jeena isi ka naam hai
Rekha,
DeletePlus Khsuh needs to alo realize that not everything in life will be evident and in your face - Agar nazar nahi aata toh iska matlab yeh nahi ki woh hota nahi - Arnav's dialogue to La. Khushi knew he had feelings but she ran away from them because he hurled those words at her on Diwali night.
ANd she still believes what he says even if that one moment is in contradiction to all that he does. So pyaar unconditional ho gaya ab unshakeable trust ka turn hai!
SN: Am I glad that he is at his mother's garden - taht is where I thought he would go. I want Khushi to go nowhere from teh mandap becasue anyways that is like a mandir only na.
I wondered if she went missing then would she go to him because he calls out to her. She senses his need. But now I think she should not go anywhere and even if she does it will be to DM's temple.
While Khushi stayed in that bubble of wont he come, i am now more than ever convinced that the makers intend to send Arnav on the RTR....
Deletebecos Khushi has today displayed one trait that is not her really, and i think that is intentional....Redux is going ballistic on butchering of Khushi's charateristion y'day.....but i think they have missed the point...The reason Khushi is not thinking of Arnav's pain is intentional on the part of makers....if she had, the next part would be her withdrawal and she will no longer keep that expectation from Arnav....she would be just like the woman who was all ready to leave Arnav on that day, not holding any grudges even tho heartbroken...But Khushi was held back then, by Arnav, wooed, and made aware of her position in his life....Today Khushi is holding on to that...that is why this wait is killing and transforming Khushi in a way.....
I don't if i am right in my perception tho....
Delete"The butterfly delved the depths of the ocean to remind him that in his depths not only darkness but pearls too reside.
It is now time for the ocean to "burn" itself into vapour rising towards the sky and form the rainbow that will gradually restore the colours in the life of the butterfly."
wow. sandy, (hand on my heart) :)
and FINALLY you have brought a song with you.. big bear-wala jhappi. our DJ.. and its been a long time since there was a song from you. so glad to see that.
Rekha,
Delete"rooting for a spirited Khushi making a fightback.."
I have given up on fight back. This I wanted after the forced wedding. Now...what does a woman do when the one person you trusted most lets you down? Does she embrace him again just like that?
I can't remember what exactly Garima told about khushi after her parent's death. I think it was something like, she'd cry out in the night and was numb...I don't want a strong Khushi, I'd like to see a broken down Khushi (even though I talk about theekhi dialogues)- she still loves him, but can she go back to trusting him on that level again?
What will ASR do to prove himself?
Yes, Khushi will always forgive...even yesterday she was saying, 'bahut daantenge, baat nahi karenge'-(God, what a heart wrenching scene as I remember it)-the rhoota hua lover- all it will take is a sorry from him to forgive him, that is how huge her heart is.
Why does redux expect her to understand ASR's pain?
How much of a sponge should this heroine be? Can't she have feelings of her own, can't she break down when that edifice of trust comes crashing down, I mean, where is the character assassination?
He took her to his mother, promised her over and over again that he'd never leave her and now he is not there.
There was a time during the beginning of this week when I wished ASR'd meet with an accident and therefore not be able to make it on time, but this- what is happening- is so right on their characterisation.
He fails to remember her pain in his anguish.
Just like he did the night he accused her of wrecking Di's life in spite of knowing it all.
She remembers his pain and his promises.
Khushi always gave and never asked for anything in return. She was afraid to trust her feelings about him and now that she did, see what he has brought on them.
Rekha, Su,
DeleteI thought Khushi understand's ASR's pain and hence her thought of what if he dos not come?
hence that momen of doubt. Because she knows how much he hated the people who destroyed his mum's life. She is not sure if their love is strong enough to swallow that hate.
She knows that when he wanted to save his Di hurt, her married her, he sacrificed their love and now when he knows of the other woman who was a part of his mother's death, will he leave her? will what he mean in jest come true? because if it does then he will never hold her again and without him there is no her..hence the if he does not come then what will I do?
J,
Thanks bey!!
Su,
DeleteYes, which is why i said the redux has not really not analysed the scene .we all have a tendency to see things as we usually pre-disposed to....
for example if i think Arnav's pain is more palpable, my expectation would be that Khushi also understand what he is going thru.....
In a similar way, if my sympathies are more inclined towards Khushi, I will naturally say, where is the justice in all this...
Somewhere both povs converge strangely...
The way i see it now is that Khushi has reached a point of no return in this relationship..She has invested emotionally beyond human capacity.....her feelings at the mandap are in a way, a mirror of that...she had tried to back off but was pushed almost to come back...and then the building of trust began...to the point that she gave herself completely to him.
Yes, her innate sense of justice and belief in her value system made her rebel when those profanities were uttered against her mom....
But when DD said that the relationship is over, her mind was purely reacting to how can that be....is that what this was all about? Her emotional investment in that relationship has spilled over.....and she was looking to gather it....plain and simple.....How she will react to the whole event will come later if she remains conscious of who she is...They say u need to be at some distance before u can have a clear perspective.
Truly, it is not a case of selfishness or selflessness at all...
Sandy,
DeleteLet me put it this way....
she has internalised the pain in a way for now....lets say, she is believing that Arnav will look at it the way she looks at this situation...G is innocent becos she says so...Khushi is Arnav and Arnav is Khushi in her mind...
Unless Arnav shows a consciously different side, she will not accept it...thats what i mean...
why is why i said that if arnav comes and they have a marriage, she will become emotionally distant if she perceives that Arnav is not the Arnav of old....(the one she gave herself up to)
Rekh,
DeleteTruly, it is not a case of selfishness or selflessness at all... *hugs*
Sandy,
" Khushi understand's ASR's pain and hence her thought of what if he dos not come?":
But she said, "Aaj hamare pyar ki intehaan hai"
What did she mean by that?
She believed they were truly lucky to have found true love (under the stars), but now the true love is being tested. She is willing to stay true to him, in spite of her mother being accused, his dadi humiliating her entire family. Will he prove his love by turning up as she KNOWS he will?
She has passed this test already by staying back for him to come.
Will he pass this test by showing up?
Rekh,
Delete' if arnav comes and they have a marriage, she will become emotionally distant if she perceives that Arnav is not the Arnav of old....':
I am not sure of this.
IF the weding happens, knowing Khushi, she will be grateful that he bore with the pain and went ahead with the marriage. She has never asked for perfection from his love. Even thru all the times he let her down, she was simple in her acceptance of who he is. She just loves him warts and all. And K never thinks that SHE should get justice- as in, I've given him so much, now it is for him to give back.
So, I fel even if the wedding becomes just a duty for Arnav, K MIGHT go through with it, because she knows she can apply balm on his wounds, that her love is enough for both of them, at least for a while.
Question is, does he trust her enough to take that step forward?
Your scenario could play out too- K feels he is doing it out of his commitment to her ...emotionally distances herself ...
I guess I am too deep roted in my belief the wedding wil not happen, going by that scene when ASR looks back at the end of his Khushi fbs- as if he is forced to leave those memories behind. I feel the decision has been made.( Or it could be their love can never be the same again for him, with this disclosure...)
Su
DeleteKhushi knows his hatrd for the evnts of past and the people who caused it and hence teh thot that it is a test of their love - whether heir love is storng and deep enough to not be swallowed by that hate.
Rekha,
Well Arnav not being Arnav of old and emotional distance hmm
My badaa sa SKD - Khushi after waiting gets up from the mandap but the sheer gravity of what she goes thru makes her dizzy as she tris to take a few steps, totters and is about to fall and she does right into the arms of the hero..just like she did that night from the fashion ramp.
For now like you say, sab jaanke pyaar kiya oh ky akhaakh kiya. So he comes, catches her and takes pheras. The issue, truth, belief disbelief can all wait. Better yet if after everything is done, he snds the family home and stays back to speak with Khushi and they have aheart to heart - about how he still loves her but he needs time to come to terms with what was revealed to him today. Khushi understands and decides to stay back and tells him so and he is not angry with her because he too understands. And he enters shantivan later after all teh family alone and dadi begins to gloat only to be brought back to earth with an almighty thud. ANd please my Nani Dadi confrontation too where Nani asks Dadi what rigth she had to come and wreck teh family she had built over 14 years for her petty anger and let Nani vent to Dadi how she thinks damaadji was wrong and does a Bas hand held aloft at Dadi.
Arnav told Dadi she made the wrong decision for them 14 years ago and yet again was amking the same mistake today. Plus that photo seems to be only half. I guess it is a bigger one and if the whole pic is seen then the truth depicted would be something else.
Sandy, Rekha, girls ... *claps*
DeleteSandy, beautifully put. I am now rooting for that scenario of yours ... of Khushi finally breaking completely at this last blow, and going into mental lockdown. And Arnav learns truly the meaning of the words from the bandagement scene ... 'one day you will know you don't write your own destiny, but that day I won't be around to see it.'
She is there, yet not there ... she has locked herself away from him, her trust broken again and again, and this the final blow. His Khushi, the girl he loved, the girl who brought him to life, lost in a darkness created by him ... only a living corpse walking around.
And he has to fight with everything he has ... he has to fight his own demons, his past, he has to face what he has done to this beautiful spirited girl ... and it is his turn to bring her back to life.
"Pyaar ka imtihan" ... yes, she knew how he would feel about his mother and Garima ... that's why this is a test of their love. Dadi said that knowing Garima is the other woman, he will refuse to marry you, Khushi says even knowing that, he will not let me down.
If he could fall in love with her thinking her to be an adulterer and home wrecker, can he not marry her, thinking the same of her mother? After all, she is ready to marry the son of the man who deceived her Amma ...
The difference of course being that her Amma was fortunate to find a loving kind man to help put her life back together ... oh, and her Amma had the strength to do so when it fell apart, while his own mother did not.
dia, very well said. khushi's mental lockdown and arnav's RTR is what i thiink the show's creators want.. but will SP allow that?
DeleteBeautiful Dia,
Deleteu summarised that thot beautifully and J, believe me that the TRP will be taken care of in this....Arnav's RTR was always on the cards....i thot it would happen at two conflict points...it has happened at the third...and perhaps most important.....
SANAYA SANAYA SANAYA - you BRILLIANT BRILLIANT actress!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU for this performance.
Dia,
Your edit brought tears to my eyes, watching the epi I was just astounded with San's acting. PERFECT.
And what a powerful script too.
TOTALLY agree with you- Khushi is the HERO- yes yes yes.
We have a majorly flawed hero and I love Gul for making this hero who has taken only baby steps...he is still growing.
"Agar woh nahi aayenge to hum kya karenge, jiji?": Beautiful.
So this is the THIRD time ASR has let K down, after raising her hopes and it is the worst this time.
So, will he come or not?
The fire got extinguished- I never had too many hopes for this, but, will he at least COME? Will he have the decency to show his face and tell her?
Personally, I want the hero to remain WEAK (I feel that is the best way forward, because he cannot forgive Garima in one night and go ahead with the wedding) , but I want him to come, and show his regret atleast to her-his helplessness- that he cannot let go of his past...at least come and show your face, man. YOU OWE HER THAT MUCH, FOR SURE.
ARNAV:
That shot of him remembering Khushi's fbs and looking BACK with tears- BEAUTIFULLY directed, it shows him poised to go forward, with Khushi behind. I hope I read it right.
Give him some time. The last scene where he screamed...that is a man torn into two- by hatred for his mother's betrayer and love for the one whom he betrayed.
Indeed, naffrat and mohabbat- both in Arnav''s mind now.
I wrote about his fbs yesterday. He is only remembering the promises and the passion. There is not a single fb of her tears, the fotced wedding, the ambulance moments. Poor bitwa is going to pay in the next track for the lack of getting the correct fbs at the right time.
***So,then, I hope he will remember only her tears and her pain, all caused by him.***
R T RRRRRRRRRRRRRR...I am ready to welcome it.
Gul, are you ready to give it to us?
Su,
DeleteIf my instinct is somewhat right, Gul will give us an RTR the likes of which we would have never seen.
Yes, Su
DeleteSandy is abs right....just be ready for it....
Yes, Sandy, *hugs* Bring it onnnn.....
DeleteSu,
DeleteThere is a shiddat in yday's post for this phase to have a monologue of Khushi to speak of a bandhan of mohabbat and for Arnav to have a story fo true love to narrate. Toh it should be a treat to watch nai? :)
Rekha,
ReplyDeletefrom y'day.
"The rather unsavory aspect of this story is that if Arnav's love is conditional on Garima being proved innocent, or his magnanimity towards Khushi in forgiving Garima, it just takes away the sheen of the ARHI love story....":
Girl, that is not my point.
I am not saying that he will tolerate Garima because of Khushi. But that his hatred for Garima will be overshadowed by his love for Khushi- but that will take some time. He may not be able to process this in one night.
For now, naffrath (for Garima) paas aane na de,
mohabbath door jaane na de.
Will he come at least to say sorry?
My SKD:
ASR probably does not make it to the Mandap. (Wish he'd, I want him to have fbs of her in tears in this shaadi ka joda also)- Payal pacifies K and takes her home...
ASR tries to call K- he should at least make an attempt- K listens with an expressionless face, or just sys hum samajh gaye- meaning you broke my bharosa.
Anjali and nani tries to tell him that he needs to go ahead with the wedding(not gonna happen)- ASR still unsure- 360 of Anji not able to convince him to forgive K for the Shyam reentry.
Badnaami- 360 of the press release of video- ASR realise he has to marry her to keep her honour- K REFUSES, she knows she does not want a samjhauta - ASR continues with his RTR...
One or two theekhi dialogues from K to ASR and I'll be happy(Gul will not give it. K will just keep mum when ASR is around)
And please don't give me comedy in this track.
ASR realises that his saasein will stop without her and also each tear hurts him a thousand times more (There, he should've had tear fbs, I told ya- lekin der se hi aayega, woh fbs)......
And the track ends with "woh aap wahaan gir gaye the, isliye hum daude chale aaye"...Arhi reunion...
It will be very difficult to rebuild K's trust, or rather, rebuild the viewer's trust in ASR as a lover...all the best to Gul and her team.
Oh and somewhere Akash bitwa tells bhai about the events of that night (I so want it to be Akash and not NK) and how K had fought dadi to keep the fire going... how she sat at the mandap firmly believing he will come... YES.
Su, the last part, i believe will be done by Payal....She is more apt and wud say right words in the right tone....angry but politely
DeleteGeetu,
DeleteI want Payal to tell ASR very firmly to keep away from her sister, that he has broken her heart enough times, and she has never in her life seen K so upset, other than when her parents died...Khushi has never before broken down in front of her, never doubted herself and he led her to this point of nervous breakdown..And then I want Payal to leave and Akash to confirm the scene to ASR.
That she fought...fought because she thought he'd come back and that is why it will take her a long time to trust you again, bhai.
Somewhere in the middle of RTR.
DeleteDia,
ReplyDeleteLoved the post. Today aftr a long time, I founf an IPK which amde start writing on R&R.
Khushi's words from the past of "Jo log chale jaat hain woh waapas kabhi nahi aate, bas unki yaad aati hai"
Arnav words of "Tume mujhe "maa ki tarah" kabhi chodkar nahi jaaogi
Both treat this as absolutes but these are situations no one can control. People leave all the time. And when they do, we keep them alive by their memories but you cannot fear the next loss.
No one can promise to never leave because all that is the maya of time / waqt. You just make the best of the sitauion and recall the good moments if someone leaves.
And a dedication to the story and all girls here from the BDJ - the instrumental of this song is one of my all time favs.
Tere Liye Hum Hain Jiyen
Hothon Ko Seeye
Dil Main magar jlate rahe
Chaahat ke diye tere liye tere liye
Zindagi leke aayi hai, beete dinon ki kitaab
Ghere hain phir humein, yaadein behisaab
Bin pooche mile mujhe, kitne saare jawaab
Chaaha tha kya, Paaya hai kya, humne dekhiye
Dil Main magar jlate rahe
Chaahat ke diye tere liye tere liye
Kya kahoon duniya ne kiya mujhse kaisa bair
Hukum tha main jiyoon lekin tere bagair
Naadaan hai woh kehte hain jo
Mere liye tum ho gair
Kitne sitam humpe sanam logon ne kiye
Dil Main magar jlate rahe
Chaahat ke diye tere liye tere liye
Ironically the first time I dedicated a song was when ASR broke down in the middle of that dark night and it was Tanhayee from Dil Chahta Hai. Today he breaks down again and realized I am speaking of Tere Liye - Companionship / Togetherness in thoughts ever after...
Naadaan hai woh kehte hain jo
DeleteMere liye tum ho gair
Kitne sitam humpe sanam logon ne kiye
Dil Main magar jlate rahe
Chaahat ke diye tere liye tere liye
Sandy, beautiful!
I can't stop gushing about Sanaya.
ReplyDeleteI used to think drashti is an equally good actress- i was proved wrong yesterday.
Watched MB yesterday and I realised, Drashti does emotional scenes well - she is just OK with the regular scenes and I suspect she will not be good with comedy too.
I mean, yesterday I saw drashti in MB, wheras when I watch Sanaya, it is like only Khushi- there is not a trace of the person she is- kudos to you girl!
YOU ROCK ROCK ROCK!!!!!!!ROCK!
Ok i had a near eureka moment.....of course with help of Sandy.....i just realised that perhaps the fourth promo is exactly the thing that Sandy has been talking about....
ReplyDeleteA khushi wondering about the pain in Arnav's eyes as if she does not know him anymore.....we have been thinking this has played out but it is yet to play out....
IS IT THAT?? or AM I GOING CERTIFIED CRAZY??LOL
OK Rekh, I am certifying you uncrazy, just crazy about Arhi-momentary madness we all are in right now.
DeleteDidn't get this, though:'A khushi wondering about the pain in Arnav's eyes as if she does not know him anymore....'
I mean, now she knows the reason for the pain...so is it she is wondering why her love was not enough to erase that pain. Is that what you meant?
Rekhs,
DeleteAb aayi na mere page pe. The 4th promo was exactly what I thot of and linked it to teyh female sad RV when I said what I said.
But many ways to the destination. However my favoured one is no longer ASR deserting her or hating her or her hating him for standing her up. It is time to grow these characters from their original sketch. Remove the baggage of the past 6 months, remove the guilt and guil ridden actions and here forward mak the actions being driven by love.
P.S: I am in no mood to work, my laptop is having issues and there is a pile to do...
Hey Su, thanks....ARHI mad, i am for sure.....
DeleteArnav deserves a spanking really, he would spared us all this agony if he had cried as a kid and someone around had made him understand things or if he had gone after the truth when he had grown up..But idiot, he just sat and twiddled thumbs, waited for Khushi to fall in his arms, fell in love with her, troubled her, made us fall in love with this couple for all their mad antics and just when things were getting better, he becomes a 14 year again...batao kaise sambhale is bacche ko?
Rekh,
DeleteOh, I am loving this Arnav more and more...and more and more...
I can't wait for RTR to start...I am just so.... excited.
Poor Mona, i hope she is not reading this.
Me- I am purely evil when it comes to bitwa as of now. I warned him, this is what he gets if he makes my heroine cry in Shaadi ka joda. Two times, he escaped- third time we are lucky! (I hope!)
Was going thru the comments now.
ReplyDeleteHmm.. Even I felt that Barun was not up to his usual potential.
BTW,is is confirmed it is his garden?
The garden looked smaller and unkempt that day,even the small house was not painted, looked like a deserted place. This looked more like a park with the lights and lots of space too.
If it was the garden, he would've had fbs of bringing her there.(Oh, bitwa, why don't you get the right fbs?)
I feel it is not the garden.
saw this - nothing new revealed but atleast a promo
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zpC9k5PU8&feature=player_embedded
rumors doing the rounds -
ReplyDeleteBI quit
BI is going off for another leave - hence he will try to come back - meet with an accident and KKG will think he deserted her
YUKK YUKK how filmy and done to death is that!!!
YUKK YUKK how filmy and done to death is that!!!
DeleteLOL.
Even if he meets with an accident, payal jiji and Akash jija will tell her about it and she will run to the hospital...What happens after that? Amnesia???
Monu, that was yesterday news.....some publicity stunt knowing it will kick up a storm....PH would have taken care to keep the lid on the news if it was really true....going by the furore of last round of rumours.....
DeleteIt might still happen somewhere down the line but my sense is PH will be more cautious than last time and wont be caught on the wrong foot, they will manage it better...i presume....
Su - amnesia!! hahahaha
DeleteRekha - oh hehe *sheepish grin* - don't read anything on IF except Unexpectedly Expected - so did not know :D
whats that?? Monu.....
Delete"Unexpectedly Expected" is a FF on IF that i really like - the kid writing it has taken a break coz of exams and i am trying to be patient and await her return
Deletethat is the only thing i normally do on IF - so was not aware of the rumours
Personally i hate superstitions being promoted on screen
ReplyDelete(oh dear, i lit the diya after three strikes of the match stick - i will be the death of my husband! - kind of over the top stuff)
so even if its for the sake of proving those messages shown on the programme as wrong - the broken bangles, the fire dying out of the havan ... i want OSB to come back and for them to be formally and finally married!!!
i have to say.. my SKD does not have so much angst as you deviyon.
ReplyDeletei heard someone on IF saying that SP decides the storyline of each of its serials, according to TRPs.. and i guess that is what happened with the arnavji satao andolan. if the show goes into deep angst again, SP will again add humor.. and that will be the end of the show.
rather because of all the prediction, almost knowing all the twenty ways in which the story could go, nothing will surprise me anymore. so i have decided to live in the past.. only what they showed. so this is my episode review.. i know it is pretty late in the day for this review, but i hope you gals read..
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"he loves me very much... even more than his own self..he will never break my trust. .today is a test for our love.. and i am 100% sure that he will definitely come!" she sits down in front of the burning fire.
she remembers his proposal.. his di's assurance."just a little time till you will be together forever"... his desparate plea for reassurance:"never leave me, i wont be able to live without you". remembers him pulling her into a hug.. so much love....
she's waiting.. and the fire goes out. she faints.. her mom cries out.. payal, who was attending to khushi, leaves her and rushes to support amma... leaving khushi all alone. (WT?)
she's all alone at the mandap.. tears running down her face..
and he's all alone in the garden, remembering her words.. "come right on time, dont make me wait, okay?" teadrops on his lashes.. regret.. turns to rage as he remembers his grandmother's vicious words: "will you be able to live with her after knowing this? can you take the seven pheres with khushi?" he remembers her innocent hug, his loving kiss.. the loving trust that culminated yesterday.. and the tears start rolling down. on khushi's face too..she remembers his words again.."never leave me, i wont be able to live without you" and the "mat jao".. two lovers, alone in their grief.. she remembers how he rubbed the haldi onto her face.. the intimacy.. and he remembers her joking about slipping off his arms like sand... running so fast that he wont catch her.. and a heartbroken "Khushi," slips off his mouth involuntarily. she remembers his words.. "once i leave your hand, wont hold it a second time" and suddenly, she breaks. arnav is still remembering.. "i have trust in you.. and your love" ... he cannot sit still anymore..he gets up, looks around.. totally helpless... and khushi speaks. " you will have to come arnavji."
(was it too much of me to wish they conversed via arhipathy?)
cont'd
Deleteanjali is crying.. "why is all this happening"..KP gives condolences.. "dont say that you have more pain than me about this broken wedding" (really? what are you not saying, anjali?)...and the KP reminds her of chotte's pain (why?)... she suddenly remembers her brother. "where is he? i tried his phone so many times, where is he?" (err when did you try his phone? last week? ) and the bros have no idea where he is.
payal is trying to console khushi .." stop khushi". jiji he will come.. .he promised me that he will come... oh once he said he wont take up my hand again if he left it.. but he will come, wont he? tell me once that he will come.. "control yourself khushi!" (WT??) he will come.. "drink some water.." no she does not want.. and she collapses into her sister's hug.
nani's first concern was for garima to have told her the truth earlier.. but now she is lamenting the amount of hurt her favorite grandson might be in... he was the happiest he had ever been..and how will he handle this big truth? and NK brings her medicines (LOL, this CT feeds everyone medicines ) and explains to mami that please dont say anything to aggravate matters. (that should have been akash's role, but.. well!. if at least that conversation happened during the time that akash was with khushi and payal, it would have been better digestible. )
garima tells shashi.. "when i had nothing, lost everything, then you loved me, married me, gave me respectability?".the rest to madhumati.." whatever happened was my past.. i really did not know that he was married and had 2 kids.. please believe me jiji" her husband lays a hand of support on her.. and madhumati replies "i will believe..but will arnav believe?" and that is the question of the day..
"jeeji? you DONT think he will come back?" and the scene that made me cry.. histronics at its best.
"that other woman who broke your home.. who is the reason your parents killed themselves.. is garima." cue violence and rage. screaming at the moon..a shiver that goes right up to his hair roots.. and he collapses.. finally gives in to the sadness that he has kept in his heart for 14 years. his mom and dad are dead.. he never got to grieve for their loss, because it was always hate to his father that ruled his mind.. today he is finally greiving the loss of his mom and dad.. (scene abhi baaki hein mere dost!)
Trust u J, to get things in the right perspective, that this is fiction....esp the part on Anji....LOL...
DeleteActually, her wailing "don't say that"...suspiciously sounded like...what u said above.....Aise din aa gaye hain ki KP has to remind her of Chotte and then she says she has been calling him up....like u i was WT?? when??...
Anji has been reduced to a caricature now......she only elicits WT expressions
Coming back to skds..Yaar angst ki chaah nahin hain humein..that was in the initial lov-hate phase which can they can never top...but drama hain toh kuch toh dikhana padega.....the audience (the one that is actually concerned about the success of IPK) will not care for a whimpering Khushi...just not on....they will just say K walk off, this man is not worth the pain..
So the CVs will have to plan the next move, keeping that sensibility in mind....
lightbulb moment... okay, this is my SKD, but still.
Deletekhushi remembers the "mat jao" scene.. he needed her with him at the time of distress during anjali's miscarriage..
she knows better than anyone else in that wedding hall what his distress will be, on receiving this shock.. and she knows that he needs her right now.. so he will come.. rather than arnav remembering, i am now seeing arnav IMAGINING khushi's arms around him.. he wants to kiss her once again.. her loving hug becomes a blanket around him in his grief. the call -"khushi"- is an affirmation.. like a child wants his mom's hug after a boo boo, this husband wants his wife's hug right now.. she affirmed to him that she trusts his love.. what is he doing?
i so wish there was a mental monologue of arnav after this scene..
Jaya,
DeleteWonderful, wonderful take on the epi- loved the way you even lined up the fbs.
On Anjali:
"i tried his phone so many times, where is he?" (:
Anjali is talking about the many times she tried his phone when he was late, before dadi came like a dhoomkethu and bomb blasted everything. Anjali is not talking about having tried to call Chhote, once the ugly truth came out. That she didn't do- give her some time to adjust to her own grief, yaar. Even nani took some time to remember Chhote, if I remember.
NK- nani- medicine:
I burst out laughing there and my mom who happened to be home and was totally immersed in the drama looked at me like- 'have you lost it?'
"like a child wants his mom's hug after a boo boo, this husband wants his wife's hug right now.. she affirmed to him that she trusts his love.. what is he doing?":
I guess i am wrong, since I am the only person who thinks like this.
That cry at the end, to me sounded like a man who had to cut his limb off, in this case a great tree gets its trunk cut off. I felt the decision was made- he had to cut K off.
If what I saw is right, I don't want this to happen:
ASR coming to the mandap and raising her false hopes only to apologise to her with his eyes. I want him to just go home for now, if he has decided against the wedding.
rekha, this is not the "right" perspective.. this is my POV. and yes, the whimpering khushi was sort of a put off the first time i saw the episode.. i was like, you were so strong yesterday, i loved sherni khushi, and today you are back to tears? but then i saw.. she was sherni to defend her amma.. she never defends herself and the insecure dilemma was personal... almost internal.
Deletesu, thank you for clarifying exactly when di called chote :D
a man who has made a decision.. please please CT, if indeed arnav has made a decision, give us a mental monologue... the ppl who do not analyze barun's facial muscles need to know, too!! :p
he decides to cut off khushi? never! kabhi naheee! that would be hara kiri.. for both arnav and the CT.. :D
Su,
DeleteBe that it may, that Arnav thinks he has to cut his limb, the fact of the matter is the whirlpool of events before him will cause to act against his own decision, if he has decided to apologise and not marry.
Juxtapose 2 scenarios
1) He intends to break off and comes to the mandap...he sees Khushi in a very agitated
state, his own will takes a backseat as his first instinct is to protect her...so he assuages her concern and they get married...then the reality bites and takes a toll on him....and then emo sep happens etc
mental lockdown of Khushi can happen in this scenario also when K realises that A has not actually believed in her mom...PH gets some time showing this aspect...
2)He comes to the mandap (idk the frame of mind here) but is met with a harrowing scenario, Khushi broken blah blah and the mental lockdown to start...Dhamaka....
kehna ka matlab hain, whatever his first instinct, he will marry and will have to go on RTR today or a few episodes down the line....
Becos the scenario of him saying goodbye, sorry and then Khushi crestfallen and them going sep ways will do nothing for the drama and instead impair the image of the hero for ever....so Gul will instead, if at all show a scared Arnav....who may have wanted to say no but cannot in the face of circumstances...or is bamboozled by the turn of events....
Rekh,
DeleteNo point in me trying to make things up as the epi is going to air soon.
Still, ASR if he has already made a decision, will prob stick to it.
He has made that decision in spite of remembering all the promises he made to her and those he extracted out of her- ...I have no clue what Gul is planning to show.
read this ...(only if you can enjoy heavy doses of sarcasm and guttergiri): http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3214402
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