Thursday 6th September
Updating briefly ... two things struck me today ... one, Arnav's flashbacks, along with the fb's of Anjali crying over her baby and then asking for Shyam to be brought back, the third fb was of Shyam saying he loved Khushi to the point of madness and only Anjali stood in his way. So maybe, just maybe, shatir dimaag of Arnav stays in gear and he feels that Anjali's life might actually be in danger, and also as long as Khushi and he are not married, Shyam is more dangerous for Khushi as well. In that vase throwing scene, Khushi seemed to be uppermost in his mind ... he just might have let Shyam come back for Di, but Khushi was the deciding factor - he could not let Shyam back in the house because Shyam was a danger to Khushi.
So the possibility of Arnav making a deal with Dadi might surface - okay, Shyam comes back, but only after Khushi and I are married. Di gets Shyam, I get Khushi. And then maybe he walks out with Khushi ... he cannot let her stay with Shyam under the same roof ... SHIDDAT!!!!
(But then story might finish ... so things won't be so smooth sailing, unfortunately :( )
Secondly, I was worrying that Arnav had MU'ed his dad and thus Dadi's position became stronger in the Arnav-Dadi face-off , that if Arnav was wrong once, he could be wrong again about Shyam ... but with the fb of Dadi-Garima, it became very clear that whether Arnav MUed his dad or not, Dadi definitely MU'ed the other woman. So Dadi was definitely in the wrong then ... and will be proved to be in the wrong now, about the other woman, as well as about Khushi. And the chances of Garima being Arnav's mother might have increased slightly ... but then, Khushi cannot be Garima's sister's daughter ... she has to be the daughter of either Garima's close friend, or of the woman who tried to hide the Garima-dad relationship and lost her life doing so, and therefore Garima adopted her after her parents died for her sake.
Anjali ... when she was begging Arnav to bring her Shyamji back ... if once, just once, she had said, I want to GO TO my husband, instead of ranting all the time, bring him back, I would have felt more sympathy for her. As it is, currently her manipulative nature just grew worse and her greyness deepened quite a few shades ... this is deliberate, knowing, cunning manipulation ... even the way she fainted and then was chanting Shyamji, bring back Shamji ostensibly when almost unconscious seemed all part of the act ... could not feel any sympathy for her at all.
Till now, I didn't think Arnav would get angry with Anjali for anything she did ... because it was like part of her mental imbalance ... but for this, I hope there is a sibling rift ... Anjali deserves a very rude awakening not only for being so blind, but for deliberately deceiving her brother who she can see loves her unconditionally. And I hope Arnav is so hurt that for once he is the one to distance himself from Anjali ... till now, whenever he got mad, she was the one who stopped talking, distanced herself, threw tantrums and he always came round to cajole her ... this time, it needs to be the other way around, when Anjali realises how utterly stupid she has been to believe her husband over her brother.
Loved the Arshi scenes today ... 'mat jao' ... awww ... both remembering their mehndi at night ... Arnav needs Khushi so much right now, he needs her desperately by his side, especially as all the other members of the family are turning against him slowly ... And love the fact that even with Di in so much pain and anguish, he is so tuned to Khushi all the time ... picks up her tears through her smile straightaway, and knows it was Dadi's doing.
And so far he hadn't mentioned Khushi's role in the Shyam drama because he didn't want Dadi to know Khushi was the other woman ... well, now it's clear Dadi does, and blames Khushi completely ... he might as well fill in the details and tell her how Shyam faked an engagement ... everything else Shyam can lie about, but how exactly can he explain that he willingly agreed to put the ring on Khushi's finger? It's not like Khushi had twenty goons standing behind her forcing him ... there were four women and one paralysed man ... is anyone to seriously believe they could force a strong able-bodied man into an engagement? What kind of MU could Shyam use to explain that one? That he mistook the engagement ring for a raakhee?
But of course, Dadi is so brainless she would swallow even that ... just to prove that she is right.
Dadi seems to have an agenda of her own ... she failed fourteen years ago to save her family, now she is hell bent on rectifying her mistake. Should have thought she would be more worried about saving her grandson rather than a grandson-in-law though ...
Updating briefly ... two things struck me today ... one, Arnav's flashbacks, along with the fb's of Anjali crying over her baby and then asking for Shyam to be brought back, the third fb was of Shyam saying he loved Khushi to the point of madness and only Anjali stood in his way. So maybe, just maybe, shatir dimaag of Arnav stays in gear and he feels that Anjali's life might actually be in danger, and also as long as Khushi and he are not married, Shyam is more dangerous for Khushi as well. In that vase throwing scene, Khushi seemed to be uppermost in his mind ... he just might have let Shyam come back for Di, but Khushi was the deciding factor - he could not let Shyam back in the house because Shyam was a danger to Khushi.
So the possibility of Arnav making a deal with Dadi might surface - okay, Shyam comes back, but only after Khushi and I are married. Di gets Shyam, I get Khushi. And then maybe he walks out with Khushi ... he cannot let her stay with Shyam under the same roof ... SHIDDAT!!!!
(But then story might finish ... so things won't be so smooth sailing, unfortunately :( )
Secondly, I was worrying that Arnav had MU'ed his dad and thus Dadi's position became stronger in the Arnav-Dadi face-off , that if Arnav was wrong once, he could be wrong again about Shyam ... but with the fb of Dadi-Garima, it became very clear that whether Arnav MUed his dad or not, Dadi definitely MU'ed the other woman. So Dadi was definitely in the wrong then ... and will be proved to be in the wrong now, about the other woman, as well as about Khushi. And the chances of Garima being Arnav's mother might have increased slightly ... but then, Khushi cannot be Garima's sister's daughter ... she has to be the daughter of either Garima's close friend, or of the woman who tried to hide the Garima-dad relationship and lost her life doing so, and therefore Garima adopted her after her parents died for her sake.
Anjali ... when she was begging Arnav to bring her Shyamji back ... if once, just once, she had said, I want to GO TO my husband, instead of ranting all the time, bring him back, I would have felt more sympathy for her. As it is, currently her manipulative nature just grew worse and her greyness deepened quite a few shades ... this is deliberate, knowing, cunning manipulation ... even the way she fainted and then was chanting Shyamji, bring back Shamji ostensibly when almost unconscious seemed all part of the act ... could not feel any sympathy for her at all.
Till now, I didn't think Arnav would get angry with Anjali for anything she did ... because it was like part of her mental imbalance ... but for this, I hope there is a sibling rift ... Anjali deserves a very rude awakening not only for being so blind, but for deliberately deceiving her brother who she can see loves her unconditionally. And I hope Arnav is so hurt that for once he is the one to distance himself from Anjali ... till now, whenever he got mad, she was the one who stopped talking, distanced herself, threw tantrums and he always came round to cajole her ... this time, it needs to be the other way around, when Anjali realises how utterly stupid she has been to believe her husband over her brother.
Loved the Arshi scenes today ... 'mat jao' ... awww ... both remembering their mehndi at night ... Arnav needs Khushi so much right now, he needs her desperately by his side, especially as all the other members of the family are turning against him slowly ... And love the fact that even with Di in so much pain and anguish, he is so tuned to Khushi all the time ... picks up her tears through her smile straightaway, and knows it was Dadi's doing.
And so far he hadn't mentioned Khushi's role in the Shyam drama because he didn't want Dadi to know Khushi was the other woman ... well, now it's clear Dadi does, and blames Khushi completely ... he might as well fill in the details and tell her how Shyam faked an engagement ... everything else Shyam can lie about, but how exactly can he explain that he willingly agreed to put the ring on Khushi's finger? It's not like Khushi had twenty goons standing behind her forcing him ... there were four women and one paralysed man ... is anyone to seriously believe they could force a strong able-bodied man into an engagement? What kind of MU could Shyam use to explain that one? That he mistook the engagement ring for a raakhee?
But of course, Dadi is so brainless she would swallow even that ... just to prove that she is right.
Dadi seems to have an agenda of her own ... she failed fourteen years ago to save her family, now she is hell bent on rectifying her mistake. Should have thought she would be more worried about saving her grandson rather than a grandson-in-law though ...
someone please strangle Dadi for me :(
ReplyDeleteOh God Garima is the other woman......though its a MU, Dadi is gonna make it difficult once she meets Garima.....
DM, please give ArHi the strength to go thru it...
loved all ArHi scenes as usual....
Arnav's mat jao was so awwww.....
"mat jao" haaaayyyeeeeee
ReplyDeletebuaji rocks, she is the only person who asked ODG to "araam"
ODB ko toh kisine pucha hi nahi :(
akaashji apko bhai ke fesle se narazgi hai toh you can at least carry your fainting sister to her bed. Spare us .... PULLEEEEEJ!!!!
Sama, why arent Buaji and Garima asking Khushi bt Shyam....not even a word....
Delete"Mat jao" two words took my heart today... At first I was so scared that K might ask to reconsider it for Di.. but then he said she wants to leave .. and "Mat Jao" was so heart breaking that I so wanted to hug him.. that poor soul doesn't want the only support to go.. he wants to cling to that as much as possible ...
Deletethat two scene of Arhi was the saving grace for me or i would have ranted over here and blasted Anji and DD
So are the sides been drawn for the war today..
Anji,DD, mami and akash for shyam
while Khushi, NK and Payal & Nani for Arnav..
at present things seems to tilt towards shyam... Anji asking to get him back and going on hunger strike, while DD turning into Dadi Saas doing a gopi vahu on khushi ... hmmm interesting .. that will keep the TRP aunties happy..
But I so want them to get married at the temple with NK, payal and nani with Garima and buaji and bauji doing the kanyadan..
may be akash and mami can come later ...
and I so want Arnav to get Shyam into RM on one condition that he will move out.. gets married and walks out of RM ...
what about Bitwa is he going to use his dimaag more to collect proofs atleast now ...
Aaru I bas want the shaadi ASAP
DeleteI was pleasantly surprised today that cvs really gave us a succha wala Rabba Ve. "mat jao" and wiping off tear were absolute delight.
Today focus was on ArHi ... can we hope back to back 2 weeks TRP has knocked some sense. Even though there was plenty DD and Di still ArHi was the focus.
Loved how Nani defended Khushi. I was waiting for it ever since. Hmmm din't expect Mami to weaken. I like to think her to be fierce for Anjali. Maybe she will once Shyaam is back becasue she definitely hates that man. Hope I am right. Liked her answering Khushi in first go.
This is getting weird ... what excuse do Garima have not to visit her daughters sasurals now but heyyyyyy give me pure ArHi 7 khoon maaf :D :D :D
exactly sama...
DeleteJust because of Arhi and with that understanding which showed and not making them go back on the trust and support is what is clicking.. had they gone back today with it .. like even k getting the topic of Shyam .. I would have quit ...
Now only thing I want is Arnav to agree and walkout give khushi her phera and right and stay with her in different house not RM and GH, but I think he will go to GH, i think before marriage there is Garima Arnav confrontation.. where Garima might be the one to stop the wedding leading to the BFTP and giving garima's side before they give DD side of the story ... that's the only Arnav can defend Garima and Khushi....
because if he gets to know from DD he will not side GH's come what may ...
After Arnav's mat jao....mujhe kahin bhi jaane ki ichha nahin hain.....awwwwwwwww
ReplyDeleteAisi dramebaaz di ho to dushman ki kya zaroorat!!....
Did someone say U can choose ur friends but u can't choose ur relatives...
Bitwa's unilateral decisions coming to bite him....aiyoooo...isliye bola tha decision ka BUY_IN lelo sabse...aaj Akash bitwa ne bhi googly phenk di...chalo kuch meethe bol bole toh....payaliya is having her beauty sleep, innit?
cv's wat a way to request the audience....mat jao...via the hotwa, ab poojali ko dikhaya toh bhi trp nahi giregi :P
ReplyDeletehaha - so true - so the CVs do have a demagh!
DeleteLOL Geeta - audience bhi ek minute baith ke chali jayegi :)
DeleteLOL so true Geetu..aise hi dialogues deteraho bitwa ko aur poojali kuch bhi kare..trps badhenge hi!!:D
DeleteSrisri : so true....but IF ki junta pagal hai....barun-droolers....
DeleteAnji gets strength and fainting spells on demand....like a switch on switch off....
ReplyDeleteI thot Gul spent the most time working out ASR's character but apparently she worked the most on Anj.considering the layers of her character that can be peeled off...every day...either she is too simple or too complex...diffi to comprehend anywhich way....
After today, i almost got the feeling that Shyamu is the hero masquerading as the villain....phata poster nikla hero who will make anji win the battle against a mysterious illness that only he was aware of....mujhe shamji lauta do....shyamji kya hain, koi batva jise arnav ne rakha hain...
Interestingly, Arnav did not wilt after the "shyamji ko lauta do" demand.....
ReplyDeleteProves, Arnav loses it only when it concerns Khushi directly...in other matters he does let some of his famed brain to take over...case in point...Di ab emotional hokar yeh baat keh rahi hain....
Bitwa really lost it on Feb 15th becos he couldn't let his brain take over the decision making....
can you blame the guy ... he saw the exact thing 14 years back and he lost his mom. he din't want to lose it all over again added to the effect..... he also lost all his happiness that day. he could not tolerate khushi daring to do it to him again once he accepted her to be his khushi or in sense expecting happiness again in life.
Deletei am not defending him nor am i saying he was right ... aaah a bad bad day .... I hope he stands out for Khushi.... I hope that line "Itni acchi parvarish milne ke vawajood" come into play. not him negating it but keeping his faith in it. If Garima could bring up 2 daughters who are not her own with such goodness, morals and ethics then he needs to think over his past.
Can we hope pretty please ... Umeed pe duniya kayem hai!!!!
No sama......just showing my appreciation that this is still a love story....yes i am sorry, i said it in a warped way....
DeleteSama, i feel we are approaching the day when Arnav's moment of truth is about to arrive....of when he recognises that what he did on feb 15th was for Khushi and Khushi only......Yes...Di had a part to play but....
if u see, today the FB that triggered that vase throwing was a lover's FB.....
His unilateral decisions and how they affect everyone are going to come under scrutiny somehow...i can feel it in my bones.....it really sucks to be Arnav, was that what Gargi says...
no sorry *hugs* I was just elaborating to what you said though from my POV ... LOL
Deleteyes it sucks to be Arnav ... A gem of a line from Gargi.
Specially when he knows the girl he wronged most is the one ready to love him most.
oh I watched that scene thrice already ... "ek minute rukh toh sakte hain" heartwarming really. Yes love story it is!! The story that we all want. Drama should be for this story and always at the background. Period.
Kya dharam sankat mein aa gaya hai ASR..I feel, there is only one sensible solution to it, I know telly world will not follow it
ReplyDeleteASR-Khushi live separately from Shyaam-Di. Dono apni apni shadi mein happy.
BTW I have started switching to Child bride as soon as beloved di comes. her tantrums today were wayyy irritating. Child bride has better track going I feel!
I hope DB realizes what deal she has got. Utter miscalculation on her part, everyone loved that innocent sweet talking di..not this manipulating version.
Sukhi
Sukhi,
DeletePhir toh drama hi khatam....this love story survives only becos of the twists and turns...If Khushi and arnav could live in peace....what will we look at? their RVs, becos uske age toh S won't allow any SKD (sapnon ki Duniya)
within those twists and turns all of us (demented folk) keep looking for logic...like in a maze.....LOL
Yippeee....Dia...so happy to see ur edit and ur explanation for the Fbs...yes Shatir dimag might just be on to his greatest deal ever...u never know....
ReplyDeleteWhen the epi talks to me in a song....i love it....thats my simple funda...i know its kinda weird.....but thats my love for music and all things IPK.....
It sang today....when Khushi was setting the flowers in the vase and crying....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39jx3RecIEk&feature=related
Do Nainaa Aur Ek Kahani
Thodaa Saa Baadal
Thodaa Saa Paani
Aur Ek Kahaani
Choti Si Do Jheelon Mein
Woh Behati Rahati Hai]2
Koi Sune Yaa Naa Sune
Kehti Rehati Hai
Kuch Likh Ke Aur Kuch Zubaani
Thodaa Saa Baadal
Thodaa Saa Paani
Aur Ek Kahaani
Do Nainaa Aur Ek Kahani
Thodi Si Hain Jaani Hui
Thodi Si Nai
Jahaan Ruke Aansoo
Wahin Puri Ho Gayi
Hai To Nai Phir Bhi Hain Puraani
Ho Thodaa Saa Badal
Thodaa Saa Paani
Aur Ek Kahaani
Ek Khatm Ho To
Doosari Yaad Aa Jaati Hai
Hothhon Pe Fir Bhooli Hui
Baat Aa Jaati Hai
Thanks Rekha ... also got Bade acche lagte hain .. off to listen :D
DeleteAm keeping my fingers crossed- 3 out of 4 really good episodes in One week!! wah wah
ReplyDeleteGarima is the other woman but ofc not the 'other woman' - dadi said i see in KKG's eyes what i saw in that woman's - an dwe know that that was innocence!
Gagri - with you - someone strangle Dadi - Di at least is saying - ok all are good but there has been a MU but Dadi has the audacity to say KKG is to blame here!! uff - strangle her i say!!
Sama - with you - the4 two arhi scenes were perfect - loved ODB's expression when he looks at the offending er as if to say "how dare you!" :D:D - and with yo on what he must have thought of on the terrace - like i said on Monday - today all ODB's actions have been justified!
Am so happy our dear boy can add 2 and 2 and get the right answer :D:D:D - he can def see what dadi is upto (as far as KKG is concerned!)
found it very interesting that both Akash and Mami are weakening - both have started doubting ODB's decision - Shwetha before you kill me - as in doubting if ODB should bend for Di's sake
However - NK who was in on everything from the beginning has stood his ground - Tabhi kaha tha - involve Akash - dont keep him in the dark - see KKG - ab bhukto!
finally - totally love nani - apart from the obvious arhi scenes - best dialogue - I trust KKG as much as i trust bitwa!! - wah wah
ps - glad ODB broke the vase - it was pretty ugly - not in sync with the room in any case!
Garima is the other woman but ofc not the 'other woman' - dadi said i see in KKG's eyes what i saw in that woman's - an we know that that was innocence!
DeleteDITTO !!!
about the vase I was thinking why it was there ... its not part of their room but when both started cleaning it of floor together I was like ... koi nahi !!
did ODBs holding khushis shoulder and making her sit on the recliner make anyone recall shaadi when khushi said "i'm orphaned again" ??
actually for a few seconds - i was thinking of the many times ODB had done that - but then the mat jaao and that look - had me loose my thread of thought!!! was back to the grinning like a buffoon phase of pre wedding!!
Deletethere is really no way to tell that confidently whether she was OW or she wasn't becos.....that FB that Arnav had about his parents talked of Ratna saying Malik Sr never loved her and there was an old scene during the Sundari- rajumar phase which showed an angry grumpy chotte in his childhood...so Arnav was this angry young man before the event too...unka past is a jalebi....not restricted to that day 14 years ago....
Deleteback to the grinning like a buffoon phase of pre wedding!!:
DeleteHugs Mona, me too!
Mona,
DeleteAkash phir bhi theek hai- usko koi khas spine nahi diya CVs ne - i just could not get mami relenting - she has so far been shown as pretty clear-cut - aar ya paar , never the "on the fence " kind - so felt it was out of character..
Another interesting thing - Nani is also the non-confronting type - maybe ASr gets that from her and his pigheadedness from his Dadi- LOL
actually - i felt that this was the first time the CVs were giving him (Akash) a spine - and mami too (in front of ASR that is) - what i mean is - they are actully challenging ASR's rule and 'final word' - hence i said it was interesting
Deleteadn one thing cannot be debated - all family members love Anji to death - so there is no ill will any where - where ODB is clear on what he will not allow - that is for Di - her safety, her good etc etc - ON the other hand - what mami and Akash are saying is also an example of their concern for Anji - they too have actually questioned (if not challenged as yet) ASR's decision for the sake of what they feel is for Di's betterment
Must say Anji is one lucky woman!
Dia pleasant surprise .. Bada wala SHIDDAT for the deal !! that would be absolutely brilliant. Hamara ASR :D :D
ReplyDeleteladies - one quick question - i can now see ODB getting married to KKG in a mandir real soon - if Anji needs her Husband - he needs his wife!!
ReplyDeletebut my question is - why should he leave? its his house - if anyone must leave - it has to be Anji + shyam - ok that will not happen - then atleast have ODB keep a hawk's eye on VLR (assisted with KKG +NK) and not only to keep a check on him but to somehow expose him to his DI
Agree with Di 100% that dadi's agenda is to get over her own guilt - for not 'doing anything 14 years ago!' - but one thing is clear from the Fbs - that dadi retreated to the AShram AFTER the mishap - so she did abandon the children - so nani should not be 'sumi-ing' her but getting mad at her for not helping with the kids for so many years and now playing the mother figure - now actually having the gal to question ODB's motives and nani's parvarish!!!
Thats the only shortcoming of that scene ... if only dialogues where more bold. Nani has the right and audience would have loved it. You know the dil pe tandakh padh jane wale words.
DeleteSame thing they did with ASR agreeing for marriage ... just one dialogue "I forced khushi, keep her name out of all these" would have gone deaf ears on Dadi .... would not have effected anything as far as story is concerned but made viewers fully satisfied.
Again with Anji ... for once just for once if she said "humein hamare pati ke pass jana hai" ... this again would have gone on deaf ears but would have been a bit easy to at least sympathize with her. She is strong enough to manipulate her Chote so that excludes her imbalance about losing her child or grieving over it.
I know I will hear an earful from Su but mein tayyar hoon .. Ajao !!!
I hope this PH learns this part of the drama ... people love right ones to have the last say in a proper way after bad ones have mouthed their part.
DeleteThis is the reason I din't like Mami weak. I am still all hopes where it comes to spitting venom for pyaare DamadJi.
i agree - the PH overlooks little things which would have made the play so much better - eh KKH getting rid of soo much jewelry =- she has been wearing it all for over two nights an one day (even in IPK narnia land!) - things like ODB getting his KKG dropped off (or doing so himself)
Deletebut did not mind the Anji dialogue - it felt like more than just - let him come to me or let me go to him - it was more like asking ODB to restore the equation - return his right to be damad of house, his position as husband of Di - do u get what i am saying or am i just too vague?
Sama,
DeleteLol…
This is precisely why I told Gul to shut Anjali up completely.
Who kuchh bhi bolegi…MU ho jaayegi!
If she shuts up- it is an emotional tactic to get her brother to agree to her.
If she tells Chhote she wants to leave him and go to her pati – (I hope she does very soon)- he is only going to tell her, “No di- I cannot let you go, I’ll do whatever it takes to keep you safe here- if you want kameena Shyam I’ll let him near you only under my watchful eyes”- tab bhi bolenge na ki emotional blackmail kiya…B’coz this is exactly what ASR is going to say and do (I feel), they are just prolonging it for the drama- plus I felt it was good that she did not jump straight to that. (She wants both hubby and bro -not for monetary reasons, but b’coz she LOVES her kid bro and CANNOT fight with darling chhote on this)……leave it yaar.
Mona,
"asking ODB to restore the equation":
You are not vague. You are saying it better than I manage to...Unfortunately, I'll be the only one who will understand you. *lol*. So, lets both get out of this jalebi that is Anjali....
Mona,
Delete"why should he leave?":
Who is asking him to leave? And as of now only dadi is against the wedding, so why should they not go ahead with the grand wedding plans giving MU jalebi some time to settle down?
Shyam is not yet in and even if he gets in isn't he still going to play it nice?
OK. I must have got confused at your point also.This must be what you meant:
DeleteASR cannot let Shyam and K inside the same house, so he has to leave, right? And have that simple wedding...
So, if ASR agrees to have Shyam back just for di and with even Akash bitwa and Khushi urging him to re-consider... wants Anjali to stay back in RM...but he cannot leave RM because HE KNOWS Shyam is a murderer and MANIPULATOR and di is in danger...decides to have the wedding as planned...brings K back to RM...aaaaargh...this is a real complicated track now. CVs, put an end to this supense!
Oh Su - i am asking the same thing - why should he leave as is being suggested by a few here (including Dia) And i completely agree - he cannot and should not leave!!!
DeleteRM me raho ya GH me, bas keep Arnav-Khushi together....and Khushi away from Shyam, thats all we want.....
DeleteSu, Mona......agar Bitiya aur Shyam ek hi ghar me rahenge toh hamare gardan par hamesha talwar latakti rahegi....aur Bitwa ke bhi......
Jaya my spamming twin aap kahan ho. Ek minute ke liye dastak de jao. Youn bina kuch bole mat jao !! :$
ReplyDeletehi sama, missed the epi so had to find time to see it before tapkofying.
Deleteone post that brings thandak to my kaleja:
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3182784
"And finally ok this is a doozey shallow question how many of you are still willing to go the distance with a hot sexy rich dude so into his sister as long as you get to do it with him?"
DeleteROFL ROFL ROFL
Bechari khushi ko toh yeh bhi naseeb nahi hoga jab tak Di na bole ..... Sheeeesssshhhhhh
Man kan pakdh kar utak betak .... never going to get myself attached to any fictional show or rather characters EVER ... this was the first and last.
Last weeks detox had done a lot good. Have limited myself to watching the show and look around if and only I have time. Not the other way round as it was these many months. Then my poor siblings/friends had to even change dinner venue and time so it does not affect my IPK viewing ... Dammit !!! All izzz well now !!!!
Hi5 sama, me too almost detoxed now -by one week with no internet... the show simply is not interesting without dia's fantastic writeup and the cafe's commentary.
DeleteHi-5 !!!
DeleteDia,
ReplyDeleteWonderful to see your detailed edits again.
Hope you are having a really great time.
One point that occurred to me today when I read your take on the fbs:
I don’t know if I am reading Arhi correctly.
ASR:
From the rose carpet and ‘Manaofy biwi’ and ‘SR’… I felt, for him, there is no Khushi and Anjali. It is Arhi and Anjali. Khushi is his ardhangni- HE has accepted it.There is no question of who is more important, Anjali is his responsibility which he will not try to get rid off. Whereas Khushi is a part of Arnav- and that came out so beautifully again today when he asked her to stay back. (Is this why Anjali never bothered me much, b’coz I felt that ASR knows his sister will not interfere with ARHI.And I took it that Anjali gave them that space and respect with the RB when she thanked Khushi. )
Khushi: When this track started, ASR had not given Khushi the darja of his wife and I wondered if K will ever come to know that she is more important than di. Now, ASR has made his feelings clear to her and given her all the respect- he has shown her his tears, shared his fears…
Does K know where she stands in relation to di NOW?
Is she aware at all of this concept of ARHI that Arnav has?
OK, Rekha explains here:
Delete"Sama, i feel we are approaching the day when Arnav's moment of truth is about to arrive....of when he recognises that what he did on feb 15th was for Khushi and Khushi only......Yes...Di had a part to play but....
if u see, today the FB that triggered that vase throwing was a lover's FB.....":
NICE.
And I guess I did not understand your point in the edit.
Hi girls,
ReplyDeleteSince I don’t see all of you in the day and 2morrow I can access the net only later in the day,
I just wanted to peep in and say Hi. I think I am already late and all of you are sleeping.
Shwetha and Rekha,
I hope Akash bitwa se zyada naraz nahi hai aap log.
He is my sleeping Buddha. Let him sleep for a while more. He will get up and I want to see his expression when he wakes up. Kitna cute dikhega, seriously.
Opti,
I replied to you y’day. Aaj aayegi kya yahaan? Do look on if you have the time. I don’t expect any of my mad predictions to come true, if even half plays out, I’ll do major gloatwavey. Even if nothing happens, I might repaste it at the end of this track to show how I feel the CVs did a better job than I expected…I always feel that way.
Jaya, Wanted to say hi y’day just as I was posting my reply the connection went off.
Loved having you back in full form- *hugs*
And thanks for this lovely insight based on Khushi’s actions in the past- Khushi- Shyam- truck: WONDERFUL! I had completely forgotten it.
Rekha,
I may not have understood your Q on ‘why Anjali does not hate Khushi”- I always used it as an argument to show Anji is white. I hope you read my reply to that, I am pretty sure it is not convincing…..*lol*
Jhappi all of you all who have been out here tonite, G’nite!
Sandy, remembering you... hope you are fine.
UJ, you've not been around for some time.
Ayesha, looong time, no see.
Hope to see you all soon.
Su sweets read ur post wl reply tommo for sure
ReplyDeleteSu sweets read ur post wl reply tommo for sure
ReplyDeleteSu sweets read ur post wl reply tommo for sure
ReplyDeleteSu sweets read ur post wl reply tommo for sure
ReplyDeleteArnav is between a rock and a very hard place. He knows he,has to protect not only his Di but also Khushi, because she is still in a vulnerable position. He needs to take khushi and get married with just a couple of witnesses and the priest. At least that way she is protected from the gossip of society and is given her true place in RM and possibly spike Dadi's guns a bit. He should with the help of NK, who has always been there for Khushi, talk to aKash, Mami and Nani, and tell them as much of the kidnapping story as they can including how Khushi was left by Shyam tied up to be killed but still almost lost her life. He should ask them what would be the reasons for Khushi or NK to lie about their investigations. If he has no proof at least get them thinking so that they can keep their eyes open for anything that could cause either Angi or Khushi harm. But then again the snake is evil, and we have seen how despicable he can be even to his supposed beloved wife and unborn child. Hope he starts using his brain and keeps his cool. He will need it if he is to get Shyam out of their lives for good.
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Lin, i agree that he has to get mrried to khushi ASAP and bring her over.. if only to have her beside him in the fight. i would love it if he went to the trouble of exposing the kidnapping drama in full detail, but from his unsatisfactory explanation of the marriage drama to his di and nani, i do not think arnav will ever do a family meeting against shyam.. but i am hoping NK will put some light into akash's skull about how truly vile the snake is..
DeleteDia,
ReplyDelete"Anjali deserves a very rude awakening not only for being so blind, but for deliberately deceiving her brother who she can see loves her unconditionally. And I hope Arnav is so hurt that for once he is the one to distance himself from Anjali ... "
Wholeheartedly agree - but knowing this team they will gloss over this - she will have a Road to redemption similar to bitwa's ..na ke barabar ..minimising the suffering they caused to their victims, Khushi then and ASR now:)
What i saw in yesterday's epi was a point in ARHI story that i had always waited for, knew it would come but when it came...i was astounded...becos they surpassed my expectations and becos of the subtlety with which this high point of conflict in this love story was handled....no drama....yet it was so dramatic....from me a huge bow to the makers of IPK....if u can tell the story like this, i will always happily eat my words...anytime!!(my dhak-dhak and acidity is back again)...there i ate my words....
ReplyDeleteYes, i am unhappy with the way the makers handled some key points of the ARHI story and they will always be my pet peeves.but for today, i want to applaud...the way u brought out the dilemma of a well-meaning brother and lover.....the growth for the lovers.....that elusive world of lovers where a look and glance is all the communication they need....where silence is more precious than words.....
The lover arnav's rage calmed on seeing his beloved...how the mighty have travelled....
The lover Khushi recognising this was not a time to admonish Arnav for his anger..gently picking the pieces...its said that successful relationships recognise when silence is more effective than speech.
By itself, this was a not a new phase in the relationship....they have shown the increasing depth day in day out but what stood out was the juxtaposition of the togetherness amidst the alienation....
APPLAUSE....to all those involved in bringing us that magic...
Rekha,
DeleteSee this- I was expecting miniscule ARHI magic, but they decided to shower us with Arhi yesterday.
In such a subtle way...like you said...*applause*
So that why Payal has been MIA - she quit!
ReplyDeletethey must be looking for a replacement for her she is there for a month.
So is the PH not giving her scenes during her 1 month notice period a punishment of sorts??? -
Not surprising.....there was nothing for Deepali to do as Payal...
DeleteConsidering i call the Payash jodi the change agents...or better still catalysts....they provided an important trigger for the ARHI hate marriage..how i wish something was done with the track...i know it was not possible then for obvious reasons but i was hopeful for some action for these two...almost around the bend....i feel Deepali having waited for so long should have waited for the conflict to take shape....she must have had a gud reason to move....I hope Akshay doesn't follow suit...i would rather see him a trojan avatar(Shweths's track for chotu bitwa)....
Why is she leaving? Is it joblessness or something personal came up?
Deletei would really expect an actress in such a role to quit if she gets a better role somewhere else.. really, what is the point of coming to the shoot, dressing up, being the background for far too many scenes, and fetching water in all the dramatic scenes?
Deletein the few days when i had no internet recently, i browsed the hindi serials world across 4 channels. ( this is the first time i concentrated on hindi, because every english channel seemed full of reruns. ) what i found was that there are no extras in most of the watchable serials. i mean, there will not be ten people giving twenty expressions in every scene.. even in the big budget serials.
if akash and payal do not have dialogues, why are they in the scene? poor karan has to don the NK costume everyday.. when was the last time he had a dialogue? what i am saying is, it must hurt a professional actor to work as a glorified mannequin.
payal's role could have had so much scope.. in small gestures and simple dialogues, she could have been a huge support to khushi after her wedding.. and so much more i could write about it, but why? nothing happened. nothing's gonna happen, the CVs have no need of payal. so good luck to deepali, may you find greener pastures.
Jaya,
DeleteI whole heartedly agree with you that the CVs have wasted all these actors...funny...aisa kyun?
Anyway you are paying them, might as well use them, right!
NK at least has had some role- what is going to happen with Akash bitwa? Yeh bhi 'explorer' ban jaayega kya?
I bet mamaji quit too and they are still wondering whether to hire another actor.
True J,
DeleteOnce u make a character like ASR, the all powerful in a family, Khushi, all sacrificing in a family, u have to manage the pitfalls of what it involves....have to find creative ways to engage others in the frame...
I thot they should have made some tracks involving them reach the conclusion it was intended for...for example, while the bubbly was ill-advised, the other one for Payash was badly written and it came to nothing....I for one thot that the Shyam revelation should have focussed a bit more on Payash becos their relationship faced an important test...but by glossing that over, they let that chance pass.
Having said that, the biggest problem for the makers i presume was to find a role for Payash to play in the ARHI story....i think they never found that niche for them
for example, they have managed to make Buaji, nani, mami account for their screen space with their involvement pretty much becos of their peculiar characteristics atleast bua and mami for sure....They couldn't make them allies without giving them the ammo...so a tuf call really
some of my jokes about bitwa not having a good role was always about this....why should a guy/girl just stand and stare..
Su, mamaji is working for another show, i guess he is on leave of absence or something.
DeleteRekha, the bubbly track could have been handled so much better, from what i remember of our discussions during that time. the CT does not know how to pull in the child votes, they are a strictly M&B team. at least they wound the track up properly.
think about masala mama.. gosh no one even knows what his name is.. and rocky... i wanted to get the name of that actor, he caught my eye :D
i remember something of payal's eye exercises and the feeling of wanting to whack akash with a frying pan.. which later changed to wanting to whack the writers. they could have made a poignant parallel track of payal trying to blend in with the raizadas.. but they took the humiliation route. even when the shyam revelation broke, they tried to give the akash/payal MU some screenspace.. but di took centerstage.
and about your last line.. bitwa just stood and stared for the first 100 episodes.. and we were mesmerized. now he walks, talks, laughs, romances... and we are.. :S
says something about the story and the character. :)
Rekha,
DeleteOn Payash this is what I felt always: They have been frozen to bring to use later...much later probably and it is too long a wait, so it gets boring for the actors.
Right now, thay cannot let Payash interact with Arhi because Arhi has to fight their battles on their OWN. If Payash gets close to Arhi, they HAVE to help out Arhi otherwise there is no continuity. There is no continuity in the character snow, I'll not defend the PH here- they should've thought some other tracks out...but without Arhi connection Payash is plain boring...as fandom responded to Babli and Chameli ka tel..you can only say 'they tried.'.
This is why Akash is a sleeping Buddha- they cannot have this strong bro character supporting ASR blindly right now- also the reason why NK and not Payal was recruited to help Khushi in the kidnap track.
I just wish IF din't show such a strong reaction to DB quitting .... Man I really did scream I guess "let her go" she cannot portray grey Anjali ... she is limited ... par hamari koun sunta hai.
DeleteI loved the way Deepali went. Done deal then announcement and not like DB who has no difference when it comes to real or reel life, manipulative much. DBs sister was right .... DB is ditto copy of Anjali.
DB has her charm only when coupled with others ... Barun, Sanaya, Abbas .... Now that Anjali is on her own ... voila it feels like cvs are shoving her down our throat.
Well why did this turn into DB rant I don't know. I just don't need any reason I guess :P
Best of luck Deepali Pansare .... By now you yourself must have understood its not in you to be the lead but I hope you get another strong role where you are playing elder sis or badi bahu or bhabi, something which demands fierce protectiveness for your young ones ... you will be fav no doubt :D
J and Su...absolutely....the plot machinations did not allow for Payash to have a strong role until later....but as they say "they also serve who only stand and wait".....
DeleteJ, gud one abt our bitwa...in fact, i used to wonder bas stare hi karta hain....and how i have eaten my words
Sam,
DeleteA couple of years agao(in think), i used to watch a few episodes of a serial on NDTV imagine..by the name Devi...strictly becos the little girl protagonist resembled my niece and i was taken by that ..
Deepali played the mother of that girl....and u should watch deepali in that show...she was excellent in it....she has a range....not exploited in the current role, that is all...
And guess what...this serial had Shyam in it as well as the love interest of the grownup Devi....Pata nahin kya hua us serial ka....
Yes Rekha that's what I said ... she will be fav in anything other than romance and a lead has to romance its a given .... just look at her chemistry with other actors ... BS, KG, SI et al even the random guy at restaurant. A mother again is a fierce and protective figure, she must have been good no doubt.
Deleteok in my first post I have swallowed the romance part when I was writting baout lead actor part. maafi !! uffo khabi nahi sudrungi ... mere dimaag mein jo hai woh dusre avaiyn todi na padh payenge !! Le !!!
Deleterekha, one interview of the CT (i forgot who) said that they had no idea what to do about payal jeeji.. and someone had the bright idea to get her married to akash.. "and the rest is history" the iv said.. i dont think akash will have a bharath role, but i have high hopes in shwetha's shiddats.
DeleteA beautiful post on Arnav : read mussarrat:
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Yes Su, beautiful.....meant to quote it myself.....glad u did.....it was the last thing i read yesterday before i went to bed...
Deletein fact i thot of u when i was reading the part about Anji's dream for Arnav.....
Rekha,
DeleteI actually did not mention Anjali deliberately, because it is a really fantastic take on Arnav with just a small mention of Anjali.
She has put in one line the whole characterisation of Anjali- what was her 'guiding force' in the past and what it will be in the future. That 'dua' at the shooting stars- I had forgotten that scene- lovely reminder of what this woman once was and will be too, once she comes out of this shadow.
BTW, I thought the epi was average except for 'mat jaana'.
Dia and you showed me what I had missed...*hugs*
loved dadi today. finally she is voicing all the questions that the RM inmates ignored to ask when arnav proclaimed his decree after slapgate.
ReplyDeletei understand akash's concern that di, maybe, needs her husband with her... but why did manorama mami second that decision? she herself heard shyam agree to sign the divorce papers..
everyone at RM knows that khushi was indeed the other woman in shyam-anjali marriage.. why is arnav hesitating to tell the fact to dadi? yes, dadi wll think that arnav was brainwashed by khushi, but arnav being the honest guy he is, should at least attempt to clear his side..
"mat jao" aww aarnav's body language in that scene made me want to go and give him a hug.. and why not? he is indeed married to her in heart.. what was wrong in her spending the night? such a turbulent night at that..and why did he not drop her off to GH?
even when she was a mere worker in the house, if ASR would drop her off, why not drop his personal wife home at 2 am ? so now i am changing my shiddat from chai ki pyaali.. i want a "car ride home". in which she leans over and puts her head on his shoulder.
Exactly what I wrote earlier, the ph shgould show such nuancies, it adds to the story
DeleteJaya,this is what I thought. They already spent the night in the hospital. In the morning they came back to RM. Isn't this the next night? I actualy found it funny that they didn't change for one whole day. May be I am wrong, it all happened in one night?
DeleteTime and also vigilant director is needed for these little touch. The girl who visited set during rokha shoot said Aman the director for those episodes actually forgot about the dhols and it was Dogra who pointed out and dance was a complete offscreen affair ... well that was too obvious anyways.
DeleteArshad Khan is wonderful ... he did a fav job with his part when he was co-directing but all on his own he is very good but final product should not be in good category, it should be simply excellent!
it all happened in one night.. 6 pm godh bharai, 7 pm mehendi, 8 pm sangeet 9pm miscarriage/hospital, 9:30pm pillow removal and washing off red paint from feet and inserting IV, 10pm arnav breakdown in temple/shyam shouting at anji, 10:30pm snake/bitwa faceoff, 11pm hospital discharge/back home, 12 pm midnight snack served by kameena pati, 1am TQ histronics.. so i call it 2am when khushi is going back home, and arnav may or maynot have taken her there. (which is why they were in the same costume throughout..)
DeleteJaya,
DeleteLOL.
What was Akash bitwa's line to nani? That is what made me feeel it was the next day morning when they came home with Anjali.
akash's dialogue? aa. ask shwethu.
DeleteROFL ROFL ... It was Nani doodh pee lijiye and mein Bhai ko phone karta hoon ... and then Bhai enter and he resumes his act as furniture again until he could do an FMD ... :)))))))))
DeleteWhat, I thought the BFTP retelling happened at night, shyam came in the morn coz anji was brought home next morn - all hadchanged and it was day time! Then they all stayed around anji all day and odg finally went home that night
DeleteNo Jaya it was 2 days ... Di was in hospital overnight .. they came home only after morning :)
Deletemona, i just saw the epi and yes, it is morning when anjali is brought back from the hospital.. but it does not jel with the rest of the story.. so i guess that was a big blooper :D
Deleteelaborating.. arnav says to the doctor that he wants di moved to the house... doc says ok, complete the discharge formalities, you can take her.. and they do that.. only glitch is, akash said "nani you haven't had anything since yesterday night.." if i ignore that one dialogue/scene(that happened at daytime) everything else seems okay.. even shyam was in the same shirt when he visited her in the bedroom (was he?)
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