5th Feb
Sajan date - dream date - nightmare ending. Sheesh, Nupur, can you leave your sister alone??!!!
Writing this after your comment, mads ... I feel exactly the same way!!!
Nups stunned when Gunji is angry with her - Gunjan hardly ever gets angry, but when she does, it stops everybody in their tracks. It did mayank and now it stops nupur. And Gunjan refuses to say a word more, even after nups tries to explain how upset she was when Bauji kicked her out, even when she says she will always be there for gunji - Nups has said some unforgiveable things about Samrat and Gunjan is not about to forgive her so easily.
SG after MN have left ... such a beautiful, poignant scene, Gunjan in tears, says why did she say such things, how could she think that way, and what could I do, I know I spoke to her badly, he tries to tell her that Nupur loves her very much, but she breaks down and he just pulls her into his arms to hold her and comfort her, as though he wants to absorb all her pain and hurt into himself and stop her tears at all cost. And then she pulls away a little, as Nupur's cruel taunts prick her, and she says - were we too close? And Samrat drops his hand from her shoulder like he was burnt - had he done wrong by getting so close, would it have any repurcussions on her ... he says sorry, she says no, it was both our fault, and that of the 'mahaul' ... even in her distraught state, she has to reassure him that he did nothing wrong, nothing that she didn't want, she was as lost as he was ...
and I officially hate Nupur ... for turning their first real romantic date into a cheap affair, for raising doubts in gunjan's mind that what she did was not right (Gunji, if you'd seen what nups had gotten upto in the barn that night, you wouldn't bother so much about what she said) and for making her and Samrat conscious of their physical closeness, and withdraw again. After months of getting together, after spending all their time, effort and energy in Nupur's problems ever since they got together, they finally get an evening to themselves ... and Nupur has to land up there and spoil even that. She is really being insecure, over-possessive and completely unreasonable, not to mention hypocritical. She just wants gunjan to be her private property and personal doll, and cannot stand either that Gunjan can have an opinion other than what Nupur has, or that Gunjan can be closer to anyone other than herself.
MN scene - Nups cries crocodile tears, I can't see Gunji grow distant from me, mayank tries to tell her, let her go, she has to grow up and you should apologise to her because you said a bit too much.
College next day, Samrat waiting for Gunjan, the worry and tension on his face, he's so anxious to see her, make sure she's all right ... the awkwardness when they meet, their whole body language has changed, they don't need dialogues to show how Nups words are hanging in the air between them, just their eyes say it all - another beautiful and poignant scene. He tells her - just say sorry, but Gunji can be very stubborn - for once, she doesn't agree to what Samrat says. And that's because Nupur insulted Samrat, not because Nupur insulted her. And that she cannot forgive.
Dia tells Su, who tells Adhiraj his next task - deliver two envelopes to G and N, he gives them the wrong ones. N sees A with girlie magazine from Sam's bag - and of course, she's ready to think the worst again. Oh really, grow up Nupur! Just because a guy looks at girlie magazines makes him unfit for your sister? In that case, you'll never find a guy - ALL guys look at girlie magazines! The fact that it isn't Sam's is besides the point. Cv's are really sinking Nups to the depths - she is acting as narrow minded, conservative and unreasonable as Bui!
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I soo soo HATED nupur...finally did !!! she made them feel SORRY for what they hav done ... such a pure and romantic moment b/w them ... and she felt them BAD for doing it ... she made them feel as tho they were committing a sin or something...when they soo soo werent !!! sheeesh, nupur I hate u !!!
ReplyDeleteand did u see how samrat immediately even avoids touching her ?? as tho he might b overcome by desires again .. and again he feels it cannot be his chashmish's fault..hence has to b HS fault .. but I ADORE gunjan for telling him "galti hum donon ki thi..mahual hi kuch aisa tha..." SHIT..even in such innocence, HOW does she come up wit such sensibility man ??!! :))) she is amazing !!! BUT nupur made them feel sorry...shucks, I soo soo HATE her...they cudnt even hug the last and final time before they went home...he didnt even wanna dry her tears wit his hands, he gave her his handkerchief .. :((( useless nupur !!!
SHIT...the time they were on a date seems such a different world yaar...now they are back to col and everything seems dull and boring ... NOW I realise why the dont show such SaJan romance thru and thru ... imagine if jus 3 epis made us go weal in the knees...what wud an everyda romance like this make us do ??!! *dreamy look*
actually..in a way m glad this romance is in tits-bits...makes it ALLL the more special .. :)))
First of all, I agree completely with your comment, mads that it's good they don't show too much of Sajan romance - it would kill us!
ReplyDeleteSecondly, trying to view a little objectively (tough for me!), I agree to an extent that Nupur is a little justified in getting upset when she saw Gunjan the way she did in the farmhouse - younger sister, in bf's kurta in a bedroom in a private farmhouse ... she's entitled for a few seconds at least to assume the worst, and get all protective.
BUT ... and here's where the buts come in ...
under normal circumstances, if Nupur had seen SG like this, if the meeting had really been a coincidence and not engineered, and most importantly IF Nupur had not already been feeling very irrational and upset and angry - yes, angry with Gunjan, that her younger sister is doing exactly what she did and is apparently getting away with it and is still her father's blue-eyed daughter - then Nupur would have reacted far more rationally. She might have got angry, protective, she might have told Gunjan to come away at once, she might even have told Samrat that she didn't expect this of him.
Or she might have been - and should have been - even more rational - after all, she's also a young girl in love, she has done everything that Gunjan now seems to be doing, including wearing her boyfriend's shirt when her own clothes got torn, so IF she was in a rational frame of mind, she might have stopped to think there was an excuse for SG's appearance. Or at least, asked for it - maybe a little sternly - like what exactly are you upto with my baby sister?
It is only BECAUSE she is angry with Gunjan at the moment, upset with her father for being thrown out and angry with Gunjan because she seems to be getting away with doing - again I repeat - exactly what Nupur has done with Mayank earlier - that she reacted the way she did. Or rather - over-reacted, big time.
And that is why Nupur is being irrational - it's not the protectiveness of an older sister which is uppermost at the moment - that is understandable - it's the anger and upset at her father which is coming out on Gunjan and Samrat. Which makes her forget that she felt Samrat to be the guy for Gunjan at a time when he was in relationship with another girl, she pushed her sister to confess her feelings, she herself was ready to confront Samrat and tell him about Gunjan's feelings, she had perfect faith in Samrat when he was behaving like a Casanova, and now she's forgotten all that.
Continuing the above comment -
ReplyDeleteAlso, what she didn't bargain for was to see SG getting physically close or passionate - wanting your younger sister to be in a relationship and actually seeing it happen are two different things - but again, if she had been in a rational frame of mind, she would probably have talked to Gunjan in private and told her to control herself and her boyfriend in public.
Secondly, and this is again the big thing upsetting her - Gunjan is showing signs of getting closer to Samrat than to her, of following more what he says than what Nupur does, and she can't take that. And that is what Mayank is trying to tell her - give her space, she's not going to be your baby forever, she has to make her own decisions and her own mistakes. Yes, it's easier for Mayank to be objective, to see things rationally - he doesn't have a younger sibling so he probably doesn't understand exactly how possessive and protective an older sibling can get. But again, because he can see the situation as an observer, it's easier for him to judge more rationally - and because of the way his mother has brought him up, by giving him lots of space and lots of trust, he feels that is the right way to deal with the situation - by giving Gunjan the space to make her own way and just being there to support her if she does make mistakes. Which is what every parent HAS to do - and Nupur is reacting more like a parent here than an older sister. An older sister, especially one so recently in the same situation, would be far more understanding.
So yeah, one can find reasons for Nupur to behave the way she did - but I still hate her for spoiling Sajan's first date, for cheapening their time together to a 'taking advantage of my sister' kind of thing, which made Samrat feel guilty as hell - the only good thing was, it brought out the tigress in Gunjan, her protectiveness towards Samrat as to how dare anyone say anything about Samrat, be it her own sister, when whatever was happening between them was by mutual consent and because they love each other, and are committed to each other for life.
diyaa...ur post is making my anger on nupur less...I dont want that !!!! :P :P :P
ReplyDeletebut yes..agree TOTALLY wit u..nups mayb justified to some extent .. infact I really adored the scene wher she threw the black dress in dustbin talking abt some rumaal n stuff..LOL, that one really did crack me up .. but honestly whatever happened after that *angry look* ... I totally totally hate her ... but ur analysis makes sense..and shit, m in love wit gunji all over again...and ofcourse sam...I adored the moment wher he is u kno, all caressing her hair n stuff while consoling her.. saw tht for the first time ever in their romance and it gave me gooosebumps of the highest order :P :))) .. mayb it was jus the aftermath of their physical closeness ... :)) but then later on, I mean, the WAY he removes his hand from her shoulder .. SHIT, I soo felt for him...and again his eyes shown wit guilt for something he hadnt committed ( arrrghhh nupur !!! ) and he immediately apologises coz he knows tht his chashmish cannot do anything wrong ...
but amongst everything, ALL I noticed was the WAY they were with each other...yes, nupur's words were hanging around them but tht still did NOT stop their communication wit each other ... they SPEAK it out ... even the fact tht they were prob close...had it been some other couple na, then the girl wud hav jus told her BF..mujhe ghar jaana hain, please mujhe thodi der ke liye akela chodo..and then the next morning "awkwardness" ..but that soo didnt happen wit them ..
I mean, ther was awkwardness but it was more related to nups than to the fact abt their physical closeness...had it not been for nups, then they wudnt even hav felt that way at all ... and shit man, gunji is again so selfless too.. but she does want to apologise to nups na? I mean, wher she says like "main nahin chahti ki di sahi aur galat ke baare mein soche.." I think she wanted to apologise to nups..or not? *confused look*
Oh gosh, mads, I LOVVVVVVED both the Sajan scenes on Friday - they both gave me goosbumps of the highest order *dreamy look* ...
ReplyDeletefirst when they're both sitting together and she's spilling out her heart to him and crying, and he's feeling sooo bad, the way he caresses her hair back from her face, so soft, gentle, tender, loving ... it's as though he just wants to let her know by his touch that he's there always for her, he just loves and adores her so much - even before that, the way he pulled her into his arms when she started crying ... again, gentle, tender, loving, protective all at once ... I'm watching those bits again and again and their expressions are amazing - she's like a little lost child and he's hurting for her so much, he just wants to hold her and kiss all her hurt away - not as in 'kiss' but as in the really protective caring "I'll take care of you" kind of kiss ... and then even when she gets a little conscious and pulls away, he still keeps touching her, as though he can't bear to break that physical contact with her ... oh gosh, they are so magical :) ... and I'm off in lalaland again :):):)
And the second scene - again that initial awkwardness, they start walking together, and he's taking care to stay a distance from her, but then they just can't stop talking to each other, because they are each others' confidantes, it's as though until they share what they're thinking and feeling, they can't rest, it just spills out ...
As for Gunji ... i think she's upset at herself as to what she said to nups - she said that last night itself, but I don't think she's ready to apologise, because nups insulted Samrat, not her. If it had been only her, she might have been okay with saying sorry, but the fact that nups could say stuff like that about samrat, when gunji KNOWS how gentle and patient he's been, that really got her goat. Even when she replied back to nups on thursday, it was when nups went on about bauji's adarsh beti - and gunji was like 'okay, now I get it, you're not upset with what I'm doing here, you're more upset with the fact that you did it and got thrown out and I did it and I am still adarsh beti, well then - too bad, yes, you were wrong and you broke our dad's heart, so there.
It's almost like she's sticking her tongue out at nups and saying you're being a hypocrite, you did everything I did too, and you're now calling it bad, and you're accusing ME of being a hypocrite!
yea...u are right...she insulted samrat and not her ... and shit even I cant help but watch those bits of him consoling her again and again ... OMG, I knew this..I jus soo KNEW that when sam is in love he wil treat her as if she is THE MOST delicate thing in this universe but v got to see it during the date...shit and its soo soo much more beautiful than what I had imagined it to be ... it a BLISS honestly..coz love like theirs based on staunch trust and friendship is VERY VERY rare to found around us anymore...let alone on television ... so watching this is like such a refreshing feeling .. its amazing !!!
ReplyDeleteand I dont understand jus how ppl CANNOT feel the magic of SaJan yaar .. I mean, u jus cant help but fall in love wit them...they are soo soo innocent and pure .. :))
Those who like a character like nupur ... and I'm talking about what she has become these days - she was quite cute in the beginning, at least when i started watching - superficial, silly, irrational, unreasonable, and OTT filmy ... well, people who like her, HOW can they like the gentleness and subtleness of a character like Gunjan? They can't even understand her expressions during the date - how her inhibitions and her love are warring with each other, she wants to give in so badly, and yet, she can't ... and that's what I say, THIS is the innocence of a first love, a first kiss ... not that barn scene!
ReplyDeleteAnd you don't see that innocence during any of Nupur's scenes. Nupur has never had any inhibitions with Mayank - whatever he wanted to do, he did, and she never objected - at least, not that I remember - but I don't really pay attention to MN scenes ;) The brakes were all from his side.
But here ... they BOTH take it in turns ... their love is so equal, neither one dominates, neither one is subservient, when he is getting intense, she turns away, when she is melting, he controls ... but the whole ambience of the date, the candles, the pool, the romance in the atmosphere was just too much, and I don't blame either of them for almost getting carried away.
Shit, I just sat and watched the date AND the 1st Jan kiss which you so kindly posted on chat ;) ... yet again!!!!! I need to sleep!!!